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Posted: 6/9/2015 12:09:35 AM EDT
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I saw that already.
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Posted: 6/9/2015 3:07:24 AM EDT
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I had no idea about the book and movie... I am so excited right now!
 although it does seem half the cast of Interstellar is in it!
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Posted: 6/9/2015 3:13:53 AM EDT
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Eh... help me out here. Why would NASA not rescue the astronaut? UHHHHHhhh....cause you do not kill the rest of the crew to try and save one man, or risk destroying a multi-billion $$$$$$ space ship on said mission. |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 3:15:05 AM EDT
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Book was phenomenal. I didn't picture Matt Damon as the dude but hey Jessica Chastain.
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Posted: 6/9/2015 3:53:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dammit, the ARF is costing me money again....Ordered the book.  There have been a lot of "Stranded on Mars" movies made when you think about it. Robinson Crusoe on Mars. Red Planet. Mission to Mars. The Angry Red Planet. Lord knows how many 50s B-movies.  |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 3:57:02 AM EDT
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Matt Damon going to try and doom humanity again?
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Posted: 6/9/2015 8:23:43 AM EDT
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Watching the trailer again, they used the same airlock alarm sound effect! Also Matt Damon's got his security blanket!
Still, I'm in! I got the book and have a whole day on planes today! |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 9:06:50 AM EDT
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if they don't go back for him, good fucking luck getting kids to want to be astronauts. "Daddy, you mean to tell them NASA doesn't believe in 'no man left behind'? Fuckit, I'll join the Marines instead." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Eh... help me out here. Why would NASA not rescue the astronaut? Which is more important. Risk the lives of the crew that escaped Mars and were on the return trajectory to Earth? Or risk all their lives on the attempted rescue of one person, Watney and potentially have all of them die? if they don't go back for him, good fucking luck getting kids to want to be astronauts. "Daddy, you mean to tell them NASA doesn't believe in 'no man left behind'? Fuckit, I'll join the Marines instead." NASA seems to have no problem getting kids to want to be astronauts after the Apollo 1 disaster that claimed three, after the Challenger disaster that claimed seven, and after the Columbia disaster which also claimed seven. Astronauts know what they do (in space) is extremely dangerous and that they may be left to die or there won't be a rescue if there is an accident. It is the driving reason why there are typically redundant systems for their space craft and redundant plans. Its why they train excessively. But as with anything one cannot plan for every disaster. In the book this issue of do they risk the surviving crew is explored. From not telling the crew initially that he was alive because they'll think they left him there to die to ground side staff not wanting to risk the crew which had limited life support supplies and equipment on what was a risky plan with a low probability of success. |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 11:54:57 AM EDT
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NASA seems to have no problem getting kids to want to be astronauts after the Apollo 1 disaster that claimed three, after the Challenger disaster that claimed seven, and after the Columbia disaster which also claimed seven. Astronauts know what they do (in space) is extremely dangerous and that they may be left to die or there won't be a rescue if there is an accident. It is the driving reason why there are typically redundant systems for their space craft and redundant plans. Its why they train excessively. But as with anything one cannot plan for every disaster. In the book this issue of do they risk the surviving crew is explored. From not telling the crew initially that he was alive because they'll think they left him there to die to ground side staff not wanting to risk the crew which had limited life support supplies and equipment on what was a risky plan with a low probability of success. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Eh... help me out here. Why would NASA not rescue the astronaut? Which is more important. Risk the lives of the crew that escaped Mars and were on the return trajectory to Earth? Or risk all their lives on the attempted rescue of one person, Watney and potentially have all of them die? if they don't go back for him, good fucking luck getting kids to want to be astronauts. "Daddy, you mean to tell them NASA doesn't believe in 'no man left behind'? Fuckit, I'll join the Marines instead." NASA seems to have no problem getting kids to want to be astronauts after the Apollo 1 disaster that claimed three, after the Challenger disaster that claimed seven, and after the Columbia disaster which also claimed seven. Astronauts know what they do (in space) is extremely dangerous and that they may be left to die or there won't be a rescue if there is an accident. It is the driving reason why there are typically redundant systems for their space craft and redundant plans. Its why they train excessively. But as with anything one cannot plan for every disaster. In the book this issue of do they risk the surviving crew is explored. From not telling the crew initially that he was alive because they'll think they left him there to die to ground side staff not wanting to risk the crew which had limited life support supplies and equipment on what was a risky plan with a low probability of success. The reality of long distance space travel just in our own Solar System is that there's often simply no way to "go get someone". The orbits don't line up. The ships don't have enough fuel, or enough food, or enough air, or are only meant to go for so long before getting a refit/refurb. Or even if you DO have the consumables, fuel, air, food, water, and you get lucky and nothing critical on the ship breaks because you suddenly took a two year mission and made it three, because to "go back for someone" means taking another loop around the sun. Way, way, way too many people, even ones who are "smart" in their fields are just brainwashed by movies and television that a ship in space can just pull an Immleman and "turn around". 
Even just in low Earth Orbit with the ISS or our shuttle 300-odd miles up, this could happen, a scenario where they're stranded, and they just have to wait to die. With the shuttle Columbia disaster, burning up/breaking apart on re-entry, even if they knew about the hole in the carbon-carbon leading edge heat-shield in the wing of the orbiter.. there was nothing NASA could have done about it. There's no way to fix it in space. They didn't have the fuel to change orbits, synch up and dock with the ISS and wait there for a ride home. They didn't have the air, or enough hydrogen/oxygen for the fuel cells to maintain power and life support until another Shuttle could be readied to go up and get them. I think people watch Apollo 13, and still don't understand just how lucky they were, that after "everything went wrong", they (NASA on the ground, and the astronauts) got everything "just right" by the skin of their teeth. Maybe the one analogy people might get are when people die climbing Mt. Everest, and they just have to leave the bodies up there. There's nothing "extra" left over for the people still alive to do to get them back down. Or when a crew is trapped in a submarine, and for various reasons, they can't be rescued. |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 11:59:12 AM EDT
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Sean Bean's in it? Guess we know he won't survive.
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Posted: 6/9/2015 12:37:03 PM EDT
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Ill see it.
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Posted: 6/9/2015 12:57:11 PM EDT
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Even with Matt Damon, I was in until the duct tape at 2:30. Duct tape to fix your space suit face mask? Really?! why wouldn't it work? |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 1:00:15 PM EDT
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Agreed, but Ridley Scott is a good choice if you want to do a movie. Hopefully it will be Interstellar in length. Awesome book... couldn't stop finished it in two days. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Shoulda been a mini series Agreed. There's no way they can fit that much detail into a single movie. Agreed, but Ridley Scott is a good choice if you want to do a movie. Hopefully it will be Interstellar in length. Awesome book... couldn't stop finished it in two days. Eh "Interstellar" was a total let down of a movie. Not sure what I was expecting when going into it but that movie was a total flop in my "Opinion" |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 1:01:18 PM EDT
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Even with Matt Damon, I was in until the duct tape at 2:30. Duct tape to fix your space suit face mask? Really?! why wouldn't it work? in the book its not duct tape |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 1:02:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: in the book its not duct tape Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Even with Matt Damon, I was in until the duct tape at 2:30. Duct tape to fix your space suit face mask? Really?! why wouldn't it work? in the book its not duct tape |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 1:04:03 PM EDT
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Eh... help me out here. Why would NASA not rescue the astronaut? not to spoilery but just being safe Click To View Spoiler They're too busy doing Muslim outreach.... |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 1:16:16 PM EDT
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They're too busy doing Muslim outreach.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Eh... help me out here. Why would NASA not rescue the astronaut? not to spoilery but just being safe Click To View Spoiler They're too busy doing Muslim outreach.... Ouch |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 1:35:43 PM EDT
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I'm already at 4 hours! This is an awesome book! Absolutely awesome!
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Posted: 6/9/2015 1:49:51 PM EDT
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Previously, Matt Damon played a space explorer stranded to die on a frozen planet, awaiting possible rescue. Currently, Matt Damon plays a space explorer stranded to die on a not-so-frozen planet, awaiting possible rescue. Maybe next time he'll be launched into the sun. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 2:09:23 PM EDT
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Loved the book.
When I heard Matt Damon was starring in the movie, I lost all hope that the movie would be good. |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 2:19:35 PM EDT
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The reality of long distance space travel just in our own Solar System is that there's often simply no way to "go get someone". The orbits don't line up. The ships don't have enough fuel, or enough food, or enough air, or are only meant to go for so long before getting a refit/refurb. Or even if you DO have the consumables, fuel, air, food, water, and you get lucky and nothing critical on the ship breaks because you suddenly took a two year mission and made it three, because to "go back for someone" means taking another loop around the sun. Way, way, way too many people, even ones who are "smart" in their fields are just brainwashed by movies and television that a ship in space can just pull an Immleman and "turn around".
Even just in low Earth Orbit with the ISS or our shuttle 300-odd miles up, this could happen, a scenario where they're stranded, and they just have to wait to die. With the shuttle Columbia disaster, burning up/breaking apart on re-entry, even if they knew about the hole in the carbon-carbon leading edge heat-shield in the wing of the orbiter.. there was nothing NASA could have done about it. There's no way to fix it in space. They didn't have the fuel to change orbits, synch up and dock with the ISS and wait there for a ride home. They didn't have the air, or enough hydrogen/oxygen for the fuel cells to maintain power and life support until another Shuttle could be readied to go up and get them. I think people watch Apollo 13, and still don't understand just how lucky they were, that after "everything went wrong", they (NASA on the ground, and the astronauts) got everything "just right" by the skin of their teeth. Maybe the one analogy people might get are when people die climbing Mt. Everest, and they just have to leave the bodies up there. There's nothing "extra" left over for the people still alive to do to get them back down. Or when a crew is trapped in a submarine, and for various reasons, they can't be rescued. Yep. Too many people including those who should know better believe the Hollywood version of space and Hollywood version of orbital dynamics and the Hollywood version of Newton's First Law. One of the scenes I really liked in Apollo 13 that I bet many didn't think about was the whole sequence where the dirt side team tests out the procedure needed to keep the power draw down as well as the scene where the engineer guy dumps the parts on the table and says they have to figure out how to make "this fit into that". They don't see all the people behind the scenes who assisted in trying to bring home the crippled space craft and how close of a thing it was that all their efforts could have failed and lead to the deaths of the three astronauts if they got even one thing wrong. The book, I thought, did a very good job at bringing a lot of science (but I assume not all of it) to the table and show what is needed to keep someone alive to eventually be rescued. Of course unsaid is the fact that if the main character didn't survive the book probably wouldn't be a best seller. The movie likewise would suck, well not for those who hate Matt Damon , if the main character wasn't rescued then died a slow lingering death and the rest of the crew died in the process or they decided not to attempt a rescue.
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Posted: 6/9/2015 2:26:57 PM EDT
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Previously, Matt Damon played a space explorer stranded to die on a frozen planet, awaiting possible rescue. Currently, Matt Damon plays a space explorer stranded to die on a not-so-frozen planet, awaiting possible rescue. Third time's the charm? |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 2:45:56 PM EDT
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Can someone post a link to a free pdf download?
If the book was first put into the public domain by the author (as stated at beginning of this thread), there's no restriction on re-distributing the material. Every web site I found wants something from me and are not free - be it an email address or other form of "registration". |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 3:07:32 PM EDT
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Loved the book. When I heard Matt Damon was starring in the movie, I lost all hope that the movie would be good. I'm not happy about it either, I wish they had found some nobody to star in it. I fucking hate Matt |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 3:10:14 PM EDT
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The trailer seems like it explained the whole movie plot already with predictable scenes and acting from that douchebag
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Posted: 6/9/2015 3:18:03 PM EDT
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prequel/get to know the characters snipit
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Posted: 6/9/2015 3:49:06 PM EDT
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Trailer looks decent. Just downloaded the Kindle book, will start reading it tonight.
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Posted: 6/9/2015 6:49:50 PM EDT
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Mars is seriously the most boring of planets. Do something new, like Venus or Mercury even. Sheez.
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Posted: 6/9/2015 6:53:33 PM EDT
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Book was phenomenal. I didn't picture Matt Damon as the dude but hey Jessica Chastain. I was hoping for Benedict Cumberbatch. Or Owen Wilson. Lol. |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 6:59:03 PM EDT
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Mars is seriously the most boring of planets. Do something new, like Venus or Mercury even. Sheez.
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Posted: 6/9/2015 7:00:28 PM EDT
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I keep meaning to read the book. I can't help wondering how badly Hollywood fucked it up. Book kicks ass. Literally one of the best "reality" Sci Fi books I have ever read. 
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Posted: 6/9/2015 7:03:31 PM EDT
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Eh... help me out here. Why would NASA not rescue the astronaut? Physics is a harsh mistress. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 7:06:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mars is seriously the most boring of planets. Do something new, like Venus or Mercury even. Sheez.  |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 7:16:47 PM EDT
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Could be worse, they could have cast Adam Sandler as Watley. "You can doeeet" repeated endlessly.
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Posted: 6/9/2015 7:21:04 PM EDT
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Space ice on steps to the Rover...slips between the steps compound fractures his tib....decompresses his suit...as he collapses he smashes his visor open.... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sean Bean is in it, I wonder how he dies Space ice on steps to the Rover...slips between the steps compound fractures his tib....decompresses his suit...as he collapses he smashes his visor open.... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Martian Orcs. |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 7:28:12 PM EDT
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Even with Matt Damon, I was in until the duct tape at 2:30. Duct tape to fix your space suit face mask? Really?! why wouldn't it work? in the book its not duct tape I haven't read that far ahead, but maybe that's the director's way of referring to one of his early lines in the book when he is doing his Robinson Crusoe thing and listing his supplies and says "turns out even NASA can't improve on duct tape"
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Posted: 6/9/2015 7:42:12 PM EDT
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Put the book on reserve at the library. Hadn't even heard of it before this thread.
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Posted: 6/9/2015 8:27:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: might be good. and FMD |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 8:37:02 PM EDT
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Could be worse, they could have cast Adam Sandler as Watley. "You can doeeet" repeated endlessly. Zabadooo! |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 8:42:46 PM EDT
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Geez does Arfcom like anything? No. With that said, I would like to see some sort of crash national program to develop the tech to be able to actually strand Matt Daimon on mars for real. IMO the first pres candidate from either party to call for a program to strand that fucktard on Mars within a decade wins the white house. |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 8:48:45 PM EDT
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I wish we could send Matt Damon to Mars and leave him there.
Then Clooney and Affleck could dress up like Batmen and attempt a rescue, only to be stranded on Mars as well. Then Darth Vader shows up with the new Death Star and blows up Mars. I would pay to see that in IMAX 3D.
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Posted: 6/9/2015 9:16:10 PM EDT
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I have no idea who you're talking about. All I know is what I see from this trailer. I haven't read the book -- lots of guys here are praising it, so I'll at least check a few pages out. But I know movies are not books -- they are very different mediums for telling stories. Books relate thoughts and movies depict surfaces. You can infer one from the other, but there's lots of ambiguity in either direction. I know the kind of material favored by the "stars" attached to this movie, and I know the influence a marquee name can have on a Hollywood production. This does not make me hopeful for the integrity of the finished product. I'd always like to be wrong, but I don't hold my breath. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you friends with S_A_C ? I have no idea who you're talking about. All I know is what I see from this trailer. I haven't read the book -- lots of guys here are praising it, so I'll at least check a few pages out. But I know movies are not books -- they are very different mediums for telling stories. Books relate thoughts and movies depict surfaces. You can infer one from the other, but there's lots of ambiguity in either direction. I know the kind of material favored by the "stars" attached to this movie, and I know the influence a marquee name can have on a Hollywood production. This does not make me hopeful for the integrity of the finished product. I'd always like to be wrong, but I don't hold my breath. Movie adaptations of books I haven't read tend to be the closest Hollywood gets to originality (from my perspective) in the modern era. |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 9:16:59 PM EDT
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Sean Bean's in it? Guess we know he won't survive. lol |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 9:36:15 PM EDT
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so...so much yes.
book was amazing, if the movie is half as good ill love it as well. |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 9:39:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/9/2015 10:09:26 PM EDT
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Mars is seriously the most boring of planets. Do something new, like Venus or Mercury even. Sheez. Meh, whatever. I've seen this movie the 19 other times it's been made over the past twenty or so years. Pick a new sci fi backdrop. |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 10:12:23 PM EDT
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Ill see it. When it hits Netflix. |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 10:23:18 PM EDT
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Meh, whatever. I've seen this movie the 19 other times it's been made over the past twenty or so years. Pick a new sci fi backdrop. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Mars is seriously the most boring of planets. Do something new, like Venus or Mercury even. Sheez. Meh, whatever. I've seen this movie the 19 other times it's been made over the past twenty or so years. Pick a new sci fi backdrop. If you are concerned about the back drop, than you are missing the point of sci fi |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 10:27:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you are concerned about the back drop, than you are missing the point of sci fi Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Mars is seriously the most boring of planets. Do something new, like Venus or Mercury even. Sheez. Meh, whatever. I've seen this movie the 19 other times it's been made over the past twenty or so years. Pick a new sci fi backdrop. If you are concerned about the back drop, than you are missing the point of sci fi  |
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Posted: 6/9/2015 10:37:26 PM EDT
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Can someone post a link to a free pdf download? If the book was first put into the public domain by the author (as stated at beginning of this thread), there's no restriction on re-distributing the material. Every web site I found wants something from me and are not free - be it an email address or other form of "registration". Quote HistoryQuoted:
Can someone post a link to a free pdf download? If the book was first put into the public domain by the author (as stated at beginning of this thread), there's no restriction on re-distributing the material. Every web site I found wants something from me and are not free - be it an email address or other form of "registration". http://www.misterswift.com/iSTEM/The_Martian_files/The%20Martian%20-%20Andy%20Weir.pdf Before any freaks out, this is the copyright section of the book.... Copyright Info “The Martian” is copyright © Andy Weir, 2011. All rights reserved. The cover art is an image from NASA and is public domain. All fonts in this document are public domain. Redistribution of this e-book is permitted, so long as it is distributed for free |
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