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Posted: 5/28/2015 5:25:58 PM EDT
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CAFE standards forcing most car designs to be more aerodynamic... So the overall shape doesn't change much.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 5:27:16 PM EDT
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I agree. My 2004 doesn't look nearly as dated in 2015 as a 1993 would in 2004.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 5:28:34 PM EDT
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Because they're all so ho-hum and everything looks the same these days. Cars don't have personality anymore.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 5:33:46 PM EDT
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I was born in the 40s and every year new cars had a different look. It was a big deal to see the 57 Chevy become a 58. A 57 T-bird become a 58. Aerodynamics was not a factor back then. STYLE was the big deal.
Today, aerodynamics rule car design. Mirrors, shapes of grills, tail lights, roof lines have a huge impact on MPG. You will never see a new car look like a 59 Caddy. It's too bad because all cars look pretty much the same. I'd love to see a 1940 Ford coupe with modern suspension and runnig gear. The Feds really screwed up car design. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 5:35:29 PM EDT
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Nissan seems to only change body styles every 5 years or so...and then they sometimes shift body styles to other models, like the 2004 Altima was the body of the 2002 Maxima, IIRC.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 5:39:33 PM EDT
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Body styles don't change as frequent as they did in the past and when they do now its minor changes.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 5:41:10 PM EDT
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My repainted 2008 truck looks brand new (hail damage).
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Posted: 5/28/2015 5:41:48 PM EDT
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I think my 2003 F-150 still looks pretty sleek and stylish for how old it is. It's aged well.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 5:46:42 PM EDT
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I agree. My 2004 doesn't look nearly as dated in 2015 as a 1993 would in 2004. The mustang fits your example perfectly |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 5:47:28 PM EDT
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I was born in the 40s and every year new cars had a different look. It was a big deal to see the 57 Chevy become a 58. A 57 T-bird become a 58. Aerodynamics was not a factor back then. STYLE was the big deal. Today, aerodynamics rule car design. Mirrors, shapes of grills, tail lights, roof lines have a huge impact on MPG. You will never see a new car look like a 59 Caddy. It's too bad because all cars look pretty much the same. I'd love to see a 1940 Ford coupe with modern suspension and runnig gear. The Feds really screwed up car design. Honestly, all I need is A/C. I'd daily drive this, my dads recently restored 1932 5 window coupe. 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 5:57:37 PM EDT
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CAFE standards forcing most car designs to be more aerodynamic... So the overall shape doesn't change much. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yeah, it's a trim piece here, a window contour there, etc. The overall shape stays the same though. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:01:31 PM EDT
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Its not just cars. Hairstyles, clothing and other things that I'm probably not thinking of really haven't changed much, except for the more extreme edges of society. If you watch a movie from 2005, or even 2000, you'll be hard pressed to tell the release date, as long as they didn't show something like a computer or cell phone.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:02:29 PM EDT
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Took a trip a few weeks ago on a motorcycle and couldn't help but notice how ugly the rear ends on most are..some are so hideous I don't see how any designer thought "oh, that looks good!"..just a roundish blob shape with tail lights somewhere in there
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:11:54 PM EDT
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Its not just cars. Hairstyles, clothing and other things that I'm probably not thinking of really haven't changed much, except for the more extreme edges of society. If you watch a movie from 2005, or even 2000, you'll be hard pressed to tell the release date, as long as they didn't show something like a computer or cell phone. The only dated thing about The Matix was the flip phone. 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:16:47 PM EDT
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I agree, and also agree that it's attributed to generic styling.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:26:34 PM EDT
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90's body styles were the absolute worst. 80's were pretty bad too. 60's are kick ass. Early 70's too. That said, the mechanical dependability and longevity of today's cars are so far ahead of those years it unreal.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:42:37 PM EDT
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I notice even the most standard economy models now come pretty well "loaded" with air, power everything, sound system, carpeting etc. compared to the past when the base model was truly that and you could easily double the price by checking off the long list of options.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:29:54 PM EDT
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Because they're all so ho-hum and everything looks the same these days. Cars don't have personality anymore. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Because they're all so ho-hum and everything looks the same these days. Cars don't have personality anymore. Bingo Quoted:
The only dated thing about The Matix was the flip phone. I'll probably be getting one of those  Too cheap to spend a grand every year for phone service
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:35:46 PM EDT
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Cars with clean, mature, and refined lines tend to stand up to the test of time. Very trendy designs date themselves quickly. That is why I choose European makes more often than not. My test is, what will I think of that car in a year or two? There are some models that you think are cool but realize that after a year or two, you're simply going to despise it. The Challenger and Camaro are good examples. I can't stand the sight of those cars now. Plenty of others I can't think of off the top of my head.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:46:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only dated thing about The Matix was the flip phone. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Its not just cars. Hairstyles, clothing and other things that I'm probably not thinking of really haven't changed much, except for the more extreme edges of society. If you watch a movie from 2005, or even 2000, you'll be hard pressed to tell the release date, as long as they didn't show something like a computer or cell phone. The only dated thing about The Matix was the flip phone. lol don't forget the leather. but yeah 98 or so it seems like we plateaued in regards to mainstream style. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 9:02:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think my 2003 F-150 still looks pretty sleek and stylish for how old it is. It's aged well. A friend of my wife got an Acura 4 door from her mother used. It's about 12 years old and looks like it could be 3 years old. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 9:16:04 PM EDT
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Nissan seems to only change body styles every 5 years or so...and then they sometimes shift body styles to other models, like the 2004 Altima was the body of the 2002 Maxima, IIRC. Most models seem to run a ~6 year interval for generations with a ~3yr mid-cycle refresh. The more utilitarian vehicles go even longer. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 9:19:13 PM EDT
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Because they're all so ho-hum and everything looks the same these days. Cars don't have personality anymore. If you look at any given time in automotive history, the majority of the vehicles being sold in a given year look very similar to each other. In the '70s, they looked like big boxes. In the '80s, they looked like electric shavers. In the '90s, they looked melted. In the '00s, cars started moving more towards a bubble shape, and in the last few years, more and more designs are adding sharp, chiseled lines. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 11:32:55 PM EDT
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My 20 year old Ferrari (F355) still looks fresh.........
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Posted: 5/28/2015 11:34:27 PM EDT
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A bar of soap transcends time.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 11:35:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, it's a trim piece here, a window contour there, etc. The overall shape stays the same though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: CAFE standards forcing most car designs to be more aerodynamic... So the overall shape doesn't change much. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yeah, it's a trim piece here, a window contour there, etc. The overall shape stays the same though. thats about it |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:20:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A bar of soap transcends time. Old for a head of lettuce. For a mountain, not yet begun in years.  |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:23:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CAFE standards forcing most car designs to be more aerodynamic... So the overall shape doesn't change much. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:24:21 AM EDT
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My 20 year old Ferrari (F355) still looks fresh......... Damn, just looked up what used ones go for. (I've always wanted a F355, despite the F360 being the "dream car" of most when I got my licence) Back to my Porsche 944 turbo plan. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:30:11 AM EDT
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Damn, just looked up what used ones go for. (I've always wanted a F355, despite the F360 being the "ream car" of most when I got my licence) Back to my Porsche 944 turbo plan. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My 20 year old Ferrari (F355) still looks fresh......... Damn, just looked up what used ones go for. (I've always wanted a F355, despite the F360 being the "ream car" of most when I got my licence) Back to my Porsche 944 turbo plan. You know you want to. 
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:34:35 AM EDT
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CAFE standards forcing most car designs to be more aerodynamic... So the overall shape doesn't change much. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Good. Cars are an appliance and style should be one of the last considerations. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:38:56 AM EDT
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Yes, I agree newer model cars look better longer when maintained.
I have a 2011 Optima and many people I know ask me when I am going on my cruise. They ask this because the local dealership was giving away cruises with the purchase of a new optima earlier this year. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:40:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Cars are an appliance and style should be one of the last considerations. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: CAFE standards forcing most car designs to be more aerodynamic... So the overall shape doesn't change much. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Good. Cars are an appliance and style should be one of the last considerations. This is America. The constitution gives me the right to drive a ballin V8 RWD gas guzzler that makes the ladies moist. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:44:52 AM EDT
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Bingo I'll probably be getting one of those Too cheap to spend a grand every year for phone service Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because they're all so ho-hum and everything looks the same these days. Cars don't have personality anymore. Bingo Quoted:
The only dated thing about The Matix was the flip phone. I'll probably be getting one of those Too cheap to spend a grand every year for phone service Stop using the big companies directly and use a reseller like Straight Talk or Page Plus. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:48:13 AM EDT
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A 2015 Harley looks right at home next to a 1950 Harley even though mechanically they are worlds apart. Real style never goes out of style.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:48:38 AM EDT
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This is America. The constitution gives me the right to drive a ballin V8 RWD gas guzzler that makes the ladies moist. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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CAFE standards forcing most car designs to be more aerodynamic... So the overall shape doesn't change much. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Good. Cars are an appliance and style should be one of the last considerations. This is America. The constitution gives me the right to drive a ballin V8 RWD gas guzzler that makes the ladies moist. Aren't you an accountant or a lawyer or something? I imagine you being about 5' 10", a bit nerdy, and driving an Accord. I'm seeing a lot of cargo shorts with belts.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:48:46 AM EDT
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I was born in the 40s and every year new cars had a different look. It was a big deal to see the 57 Chevy become a 58. A 57 T-bird become a 58. Aerodynamics was not a factor back then. STYLE was the big deal. Today, aerodynamics rule car design. Mirrors, shapes of grills, tail lights, roof lines have a huge impact on MPG. You will never see a new car look like a 59 Caddy. It's too bad because all cars look pretty much the same. I'd love to see a 1940 Ford coupe with modern suspension and runnig gear. The Feds really screwed up car design. So true. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:49:23 AM EDT
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A 2015 Harley looks right at home next to a 1950 Harley even though mechanically they are worlds apart. Real style never goes out of style. 
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Posted: 5/29/2015 7:05:06 AM EDT
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that's because they all look the same--aerodynamics doesn't change.
they all look like electric shavers to me. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 7:19:39 AM EDT
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A friend of my wife got an Acura 4 door from her mother used. It's about 12 years old and looks like it could be 3 years old. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think my 2003 F-150 still looks pretty sleek and stylish for how old it is. It's aged well. A friend of my wife got an Acura 4 door from her mother used. It's about 12 years old and looks like it could be 3 years old. I used to drive a 2004 Acura TL. It would still look just fine in my driveway today. That's the only car that I've traded in that I truly miss
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Posted: 5/29/2015 7:22:12 AM EDT
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Maybe because everything's a crossover now or otherwise has similiar body style. Those all look the same to me. My wife has a new Escape and you'd lose it in a parking lot if you didn't have a key fob to blow the horn and flash the lights. 
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Posted: 5/29/2015 7:24:30 AM EDT
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Nissan seems to only change body styles every 5 years or so...and then they sometimes shift body styles to other models, like the 2004 Altima was the body of the 2002 Maxima, IIRC. Yeah my 2012 Titan is almost exactly the same body style as the 2005. Nissan don't like change. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 7:31:44 AM EDT
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Nissan may make some decent looking trucks, their cars are generally HIDEOUS.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 7:32:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its not just cars. Hairstyles, clothing and other things that I'm probably not thinking of really haven't changed much, except for the more extreme edges of society. If you watch a movie from 2005, or even 2000, you'll be hard pressed to tell the release date, as long as they didn't show something like a computer or cell phone.  |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 7:37:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cars with clean, mature, and refined lines tend to stand up to the test of time. Very trendy designs date themselves quickly. That is why I choose European makes more often than not. My test is, what will I think of that car in a year or two? There are some models that you think are cool but realize that after a year or two, you're simply going to despise it. The Challenger and Camaro are good examples. I can't stand the sight of those cars now. Plenty of others I can't think of off the top of my head. Mid 90s Lexus LS400      Other than a cassette tape deck. The entire car looks like it could've been made yesterday. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 9:22:49 AM EDT
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Bingo... Mid 90s Lexus LS400 http://www.cars-directory.net/pics/lexus/ls400/1994/lexus_ls400_a1253332802b3037989.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Lexus-LS400.jpg http://www.cars-directory.net/pics/lexus/ls400/1994/lexus_ls400_a1253332802b3037989_3.jpg http://www.jdmvipcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/interior.jpg http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2010/12/20/06/24/1996_lexus_ls_400_4_dr_std_sedan-pic-2319508684687418565.jpeg Other than a cassette tape deck. The entire car looks like it could've been made yesterday. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cars with clean, mature, and refined lines tend to stand up to the test of time. Very trendy designs date themselves quickly. That is why I choose European makes more often than not. My test is, what will I think of that car in a year or two? There are some models that you think are cool but realize that after a year or two, you're simply going to despise it. The Challenger and Camaro are good examples. I can't stand the sight of those cars now. Plenty of others I can't think of off the top of my head. Mid 90s Lexus LS400 http://www.cars-directory.net/pics/lexus/ls400/1994/lexus_ls400_a1253332802b3037989.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Lexus-LS400.jpg http://www.cars-directory.net/pics/lexus/ls400/1994/lexus_ls400_a1253332802b3037989_3.jpg http://www.jdmvipcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/interior.jpg http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2010/12/20/06/24/1996_lexus_ls_400_4_dr_std_sedan-pic-2319508684687418565.jpeg Other than a cassette tape deck. The entire car looks like it could've been made yesterday. I don't fully agree but it's not a drastic departure either. I guess new cars are adding straight lines and flat surfaces to distinguish themselves from how they have all looked the past 15 years. I do like my 9 year old daily driver still looking modern though. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 9:24:57 AM EDT
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More proof that the days and clocks are running at a faster rate.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 9:44:02 AM EDT
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Aren't you an accountant or a lawyer or something? I imagine you being about 5' 10", a bit nerdy, and driving an Accord. I'm seeing a lot of cargo shorts with belts.
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CAFE standards forcing most car designs to be more aerodynamic... So the overall shape doesn't change much. Good. Cars are an appliance and style should be one of the last considerations. In other words, styling and profiling? I'm pretty sure cargo shorts are GQ. This is America. The constitution gives me the right to drive a ballin V8 RWD gas guzzler that makes the ladies moist. Aren't you an accountant or a lawyer or something? I imagine you being about 5' 10", a bit nerdy, and driving an Accord. I'm seeing a lot of cargo shorts with belts.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 9:53:14 AM EDT
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Yeah my 2012 Titan is almost exactly the same body style as the 2005. Nissan don't like change. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nissan seems to only change body styles every 5 years or so...and then they sometimes shift body styles to other models, like the 2004 Altima was the body of the 2002 Maxima, IIRC. Yeah my 2012 Titan is almost exactly the same body style as the 2005. Nissan don't like change. That's because Nissan was planning to kill production of the Titan and sell rebadged Dodges around 2009-2010. Chrysler going to Fiat killed that plan. Nissan kept the Titan alive and began development of the second generation truck that comes out in the 2016 MY. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 9:59:18 AM EDT
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Bingo... Mid 90s Lexus LS400 http://www.cars-directory.net/pics/lexus/ls400/1994/lexus_ls400_a1253332802b3037989.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Lexus-LS400.jpg http://www.cars-directory.net/pics/lexus/ls400/1994/lexus_ls400_a1253332802b3037989_3.jpg http://www.jdmvipcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/interior.jpg http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2010/12/20/06/24/1996_lexus_ls_400_4_dr_std_sedan-pic-2319508684687418565.jpeg Other than a cassette tape deck. The entire car looks like it could've been made yesterday. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cars with clean, mature, and refined lines tend to stand up to the test of time. Very trendy designs date themselves quickly. That is why I choose European makes more often than not. My test is, what will I think of that car in a year or two? There are some models that you think are cool but realize that after a year or two, you're simply going to despise it. The Challenger and Camaro are good examples. I can't stand the sight of those cars now. Plenty of others I can't think of off the top of my head. Mid 90s Lexus LS400 http://www.cars-directory.net/pics/lexus/ls400/1994/lexus_ls400_a1253332802b3037989.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Lexus-LS400.jpg http://www.cars-directory.net/pics/lexus/ls400/1994/lexus_ls400_a1253332802b3037989_3.jpg http://www.jdmvipcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/interior.jpg http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2010/12/20/06/24/1996_lexus_ls_400_4_dr_std_sedan-pic-2319508684687418565.jpeg Other than a cassette tape deck. The entire car looks like it could've been made yesterday. nah that car looks old as F |
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