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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:08:26 PM EDT
[#1]
Please stop with this shit. First it is the Mexicans coming and taking our jobs. Now it is the robots are coming to take our jobs.
Can't we just buy AR15's and hoard ammo in peace? |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:08:55 PM EDT
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doomsday
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:09:00 PM EDT
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They said the same thing about the cotton gin, the steam engine and computers. If you're genuinely convinced this is going to be a problem, I beg you to never leave your house, particularly if you intend to interact with sane people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Again with this? How did the advancement in computers kill jobs, cuz that's the brains of any robot. I've changed careers 5 times in the last 35 yrs with in the electronics/ manufacturing/ automation industry. Adapt or die, but there is always work if you're not a dead end slug. We are about to see an advancement never seen before in automation. You can't compare that with anything in the present or past I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Just wondering how we will handle the unemployment They said the same thing about the cotton gin, the steam engine and computers. If you're genuinely convinced this is going to be a problem, I beg you to never leave your house, particularly if you intend to interact with sane people. I would be satisfied if folks with this idea just agreed to stop voting. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:09:31 PM EDT
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What if I design a robot that builds other robots... on a treadmill.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:10:24 PM EDT
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... Not only all of the retail workers, but also things like truckers, transportation jobs, office admin jobs, most business/financials jobs, sales jobs, etc. Add them all up and the net result is a monumental amount of unemployment in a short period of time All of this may be true, but it's unrealistic to talk of it in terms of action-reaction-STOP. As jobs go away, some new jobs are created. For everyone else, the cost of living is reduced. It's not the end of the world. How much was an AR15 in 1985? Probably not much less than they cost today, because of automation. People will always need food and shelter, and those will always come from people who work. Everything else is LESS EXPENSIVE when there are less American laborers involved. Either way, your options are to reduce costs through automation, or reduce costs through lowering employment expenses. The best thing for everyone is to reduce both, but our politics in this country won't allow it. I think what we'll see is that most folks will find they are able to work less hours to make ends meet, and most employers will jump on that. The big problem will be health insurance. ETA: I was a bit unclear. It seems most employers prefer to higher less people who work more hours. But, if they can get out of expenses like health insurance, I could see them employing twice as many people working half the hours. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:10:44 PM EDT
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Yeah whatever, the whole point of automation is so you can hire more people. Nobody gets replaced by a robot, you just keep going to work and they pay you to not do anything.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:10:49 PM EDT
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Your article is full of stupid. Let me take a few examples: 1. Sales - Travel agents - 10% chance.  A 10 percent chance that one of the most automated industries (ever heard of cheapflights, expedia, or travolocity? Ever book a vacation though apple vacations?) becomes really automated?
2. Computers - Computers Programers - 48%. What? Because computers are at least 5 times better at writing their own computer code than booking a vacation? 3. Bus Driver 88% - because we're almost there now, except we haven't started at all. 4. Pilot - 18% even though this job is mostly automated today, it's much more likely we'll automate bus driving, which isn't nearly as economical and has a much lower level of automation today. Made up numbers are made up  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This site looks at the percentage chance of your job being automated in the next 20 years: http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/05/21/408234543/will-your-job-be-done-by-a-machine Most jobs will be automated in the near future So you might be saying "well then just become a programmer" - is that really that realistic? Will the economy be able to support 100 million programmers? What do you think is going to happen and what will be the solution to a 40%+ unemployment rate? Your article is full of stupid. Let me take a few examples: 1. Sales - Travel agents - 10% chance. A 10 percent chance that one of the most automated industries (ever heard of cheapflights, expedia, or travolocity? Ever book a vacation though apple vacations?) becomes really automated?
2. Computers - Computers Programers - 48%. What? Because computers are at least 5 times better at writing their own computer code than booking a vacation? 3. Bus Driver 88% - because we're almost there now, except we haven't started at all. 4. Pilot - 18% even though this job is mostly automated today, it's much more likely we'll automate bus driving, which isn't nearly as economical and has a much lower level of automation today. Made up numbers are made up Thanks for the laughs. That was awesome. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:12:52 PM EDT
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Did the industrial revolution create more employment or cause unemployment? More efficient processes and businesses create cheaper products for the market freeing up capital to buy new and exciting stuff we might not even know will exist when all this comes about. To say the market won't absorb those displaced by automation is to ignore history.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:13:36 PM EDT
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A good part of my job will likely never be automated. Got to have boots on the ground to count them trees.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:14:04 PM EDT
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The solution? Easy....
FUNCTION ABORT ALL   |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:14:46 PM EDT
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Killer robots will soon thin the population so no worry. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11633838/Killer-robots-will-leave-humans-utterly-defenceless-warns-professor.html
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:15:13 PM EDT
[#12]
this fucking thread again.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:21:12 PM EDT
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just offer middle class unemployment and welfare benefits... oh we already do
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:27:04 PM EDT
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I work in manufacturing. Robots and machines break. technicians are needed to maintain them.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:31:33 PM EDT
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I'm worried about automation.
Do you think my job as a buggy whip maker will disappear? My brother swings the red light at the end of the caboose so I think he might have some future problems. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:39:02 PM EDT
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STEM
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:41:43 PM EDT
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My brother swings the red light at the end of the caboose so I think he might have some future problems. I heard that by 2045, 37% of trains will be hanging red lights from hooks, and over 9% will mount the lights through such futuristic means as screws or other fasteners. Rhe future looks bleak,indeed. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:41:52 PM EDT
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that link is dildos. aint nobody fixing a c5 galaxy but humans or C3PO
PIC RELATED OF MACHINE THAT WILL REPLACE ME 
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:42:28 PM EDT
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The only solution = amateur porn.
 
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:42:35 PM EDT
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Find a job automation cannot replace? Dumb ones will die off. Hopefully the staff of NPR that wrote that garbage.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:46:21 PM EDT
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Why do you think automation will result in unemployment? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This site looks at the percentage chance of your job being automated in the next 20 years: http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/05/21/408234543/will-your-job-be-done-by-a-machine Most jobs will be automated in the near future So you might be saying "well then just become a programmer" - is that really that realistic? Will the economy be able to support most workers as programmers? What do you think is going to happen and what will be the solution to a 40%+ unemployment rate? Why do you think automation will result in unemployment? Because it takes jobs away. Read op again. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:47:24 PM EDT
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This site looks at the percentage chance of your job being automated in the next 20 years: http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/05/21/408234543/will-your-job-be-done-by-a-machine Most jobs will be automated in the near future So you might be saying "well then just become a programmer" - is that really that realistic? Will the economy be able to support 100 million programmers? What do you think is going to happen and what will be the solution to a 40%+ unemployment rate? Even if we weren't facing massive unemployment due to automation, we'd still be facing - are facing - a massive fiscal clusterfuck from tens of millions of people who refuse to get their shit together and be more useful than a goddamn robot, assuming they even "choose" to attempt to work in the first damn place. Keep in mind that the unemployment rate is 2-3 times the published figure already when you account for BLS shenannigans. Automation isn't going to change the eventual outcome. Will probably make things nicer for the rest of us non-useless fucks on the way there, though. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:49:15 PM EDT
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Easy, charge companies an automation tax. Problem solved.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:54:42 PM EDT
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All you are understanding is the jobs you can see. You fail to comprehend the jobs that will be created. The businesses will not produce without consumers. The jobs will migrate at a reasonable pace. You have no depth of understanding, so you are arguing a series of falsehoods. There will be some unemployment, just like every time there are large shifts in industry, but not what you think. Please, read a book on the subject. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:snip All you are understanding is the jobs you can see. You fail to comprehend the jobs that will be created. The businesses will not produce without consumers. The jobs will migrate at a reasonable pace. You have no depth of understanding, so you are arguing a series of falsehoods. There will be some unemployment, just like every time there are large shifts in industry, but not what you think. Please, read a book on the subject. Good lord you are wrong. You are right just magical jobs will appear. Truck drivers will cease to exist bro. So will 9/10 cashiers. Its simple. Maybe a new job here or there will but no. Not really. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:57:59 PM EDT
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My job won't be automated before I retire, and If the unemployment rate ever hits 40% my occupation will be even more in demand.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:02:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: this fucking thread again. It's submission has been automated. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:07:11 PM EDT
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You need to think of work as energy, which can't be created or destroyed. When the tractor was invented, it greatly reduced the need for farm labor. But then there was need for more iron (and other raw materials), more oil to feed the tractor, and factory work to build the tractor. Same thing with robots; they aren't going to create and repair themselves any time soon.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:30:16 PM EDT
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Get a job in automation.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:34:03 PM EDT
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We are about to see an advancement never seen before in automation. You can't compare that with anything in the present or past I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Just wondering how we will handle the unemployment Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Again with this? How did the advancement in computers kill jobs, cuz that's the brains of any robot. I've changed careers 5 times in the last 35 yrs with in the electronics/ manufacturing/ automation industry. Adapt or die, but there is always work if you're not a dead end slug. We are about to see an advancement never seen before in automation. You can't compare that with anything in the present or past I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Just wondering how we will handle the unemployment We will have to become more enterprising (as individuals). The period of time you will be able to count on a particular job to provide you with income will have to be measured in months, not years. Intelligent people will, of course, fair much better than unintelligent people. Probably, a lot of people will have two or three "jobs" going at any one time. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:36:20 PM EDT
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my careers are safe
although I would personally enjoy seeing robots replace illegal mexi workers like the massive amount of fruit pickers, we could actually get them to fucking leave if this could happen |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:38:18 PM EDT
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I'll always have a job running my FEMA camp.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:39:24 PM EDT
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my careers are safe although I would personally enjoy seeing robots replace illegal mexi workers like the massive amount of fruit pickers, we could actually get them to fucking leave if this could happen Will we finally stop hearing the complete and utter lie that "the crops are literally rotting in the field because we just don't have enough illegal aliens to pick them for $3.20 an hour"? |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:41:58 PM EDT
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Oh yea.. 4.2% chance of automation. I'm golden
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:44:32 PM EDT
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Did the industrial revolution create more employment or cause unemployment? More efficient processes and businesses create cheaper products for the market freeing up capital to buy new and exciting stuff we might not even know will exist when all this comes about. To say the market won't absorb those displaced by automation is to ignore history. Yeah, it's not like government entitlement spending is already at an all time high or anything. And it's not like workers being displaced by automation will still able to vote. Everything is fine, nothing to see here, move along... |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:46:06 PM EDT
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Find a job automation cannot replace? Dumb ones will die off. Hopefully the staff of NPR that wrote that garbage. What do you think the future holds for your step-children? |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:48:04 PM EDT
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I'm a CO. Until they can get robots to do my job I'll get my meager pay.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:50:35 PM EDT
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Because it takes jobs away. Read op again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This site looks at the percentage chance of your job being automated in the next 20 years: http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/05/21/408234543/will-your-job-be-done-by-a-machine Most jobs will be automated in the near future So you might be saying "well then just become a programmer" - is that really that realistic? Will the economy be able to support most workers as programmers? What do you think is going to happen and what will be the solution to a 40%+ unemployment rate? Why do you think automation will result in unemployment? Because it takes jobs away. Read op again. Fuck. So does retirement and vacation. Now what!!! |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:52:33 PM EDT
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Good lord you are wrong. You are right just magical jobs will appear. Truck drivers will cease to exist bro. So will 9/10 cashiers. Its simple. Maybe a new job here or there will but no. Not really. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted:snip All you are understanding is the jobs you can see. You fail to comprehend the jobs that will be created. The businesses will not produce without consumers. The jobs will migrate at a reasonable pace. You have no depth of understanding, so you are arguing a series of falsehoods. There will be some unemployment, just like every time there are large shifts in industry, but not what you think. Please, read a book on the subject. Good lord you are wrong. You are right just magical jobs will appear. Truck drivers will cease to exist bro. So will 9/10 cashiers. Its simple. Maybe a new job here or there will but no. Not really. This thread shall be known as the Luddite thread. It shall be a Luddite coming-out party! |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:54:31 PM EDT
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Yeah, it's not like government entitlement spending is already at an all time high or anything. And it's not like workers being displaced by automation will still able to vote. Everything is fine, nothing to see here, move along... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did the industrial revolution create more employment or cause unemployment? More efficient processes and businesses create cheaper products for the market freeing up capital to buy new and exciting stuff we might not even know will exist when all this comes about. To say the market won't absorb those displaced by automation is to ignore history. Yeah, it's not like government entitlement spending is already at an all time high or anything. And it's not like workers being displaced by automation will still able to vote. Everything is fine, nothing to see here, move along... Starvation is a strong motivator. Perhaps this thread needs a definition of the word "job" and the word "unemployment". |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:55:05 PM EDT
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Did this a week ago.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1750103_Rise_of_the_Robots__Technology_and_the_Threat_of_a_Jobless_Future.html I've no doubt that society will adapt, but some of that adaptation isn't going to be pretty. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:22:45 AM EDT
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Good lord you are wrong. You are right just magical jobs will appear. Truck drivers will cease to exist bro. So will 9/10 cashiers. Its simple. Maybe a new job here or there will but no. Not really. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted:snip All you are understanding is the jobs you can see. You fail to comprehend the jobs that will be created. The businesses will not produce without consumers. The jobs will migrate at a reasonable pace. You have no depth of understanding, so you are arguing a series of falsehoods. There will be some unemployment, just like every time there are large shifts in industry, but not what you think. Please, read a book on the subject. Good lord you are wrong. You are right just magical jobs will appear. Truck drivers will cease to exist bro. So will 9/10 cashiers. Its simple. Maybe a new job here or there will but no. Not really. It will be like 2006. We lost lots of white collar jobs that have been replaced with part time service jobs for low wages. It will be like that but even better. Cause now the service job is automated. It will be like keebler elves. They will go in the back and create jobs out of fairy dust and smurf jizz. It will be dildos. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:23:50 AM EDT
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War.
The Big One. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:57:53 AM EDT
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Now is probably a good time to get into the robot building game. Robot hacking is the future. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:59:34 AM EDT
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Porn star. Who wants to watch a robot shoot his load all over another robot's face? The 800 series were easy to identify... |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:12:39 AM EDT
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Meh, I'll just get a job selling robot insurance for Old Glory.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:45:05 AM EDT
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Yeah, it's not like government entitlement spending is already at an all time high or anything. And it's not like workers being displaced by automation will still able to vote. Everything is fine, nothing to see here, move along... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did the industrial revolution create more employment or cause unemployment? More efficient processes and businesses create cheaper products for the market freeing up capital to buy new and exciting stuff we might not even know will exist when all this comes about. To say the market won't absorb those displaced by automation is to ignore history. Yeah, it's not like government entitlement spending is already at an all time high or anything. And it's not like workers being displaced by automation will still able to vote. Everything is fine, nothing to see here, move along... You're still not arguing against my point. You feel like automation will kill jobs but it will actually help companies grow and employ more people. I fix machines that help reduce or eliminate hand labor. My efforts almost never reduce the total number of employees. They just move to other areas they are needed. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:46:36 AM EDT
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We eliminated 6 positions at my company through automation. Individuals lacking work ethic, lacking motivation, lacking initiative and the threat by TPTB, to increase the minimum wage, forced us to make the jump. The labor market we, and a lot of other businesses, are experiencing is that people don't want to work anymore, and if they do they aren't even worth 7.25 per hr, for value back to the company.
The employee below made above the minimum wage before he was removed. 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:48:39 AM EDT
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I think I will just claim racism and riot.
That seems to be working well for the Democrat voting base. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:53:09 AM EDT
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Soylent Green, that's how. This! Plus the ever increasing costs of health care coupled with rising lifespan = "We are sorry, but your life isn't worth these cancer treatments. Those care dollars have been allocated to a younger person who meets our diversity goals.But we do offer a short stay in our Comfort unit if you'd like. Enjoy the movie" |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:53:41 AM EDT
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Because it takes jobs away. Read op again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This site looks at the percentage chance of your job being automated in the next 20 years: http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/05/21/408234543/will-your-job-be-done-by-a-machine Most jobs will be automated in the near future So you might be saying "well then just become a programmer" - is that really that realistic? Will the economy be able to support most workers as programmers? What do you think is going to happen and what will be the solution to a 40%+ unemployment rate? Why do you think automation will result in unemployment? Because it takes jobs away. Read op again. Anyone with a 5th grade education knows this is silly. Did CNC machines cost jobs or create jobs? How many companies would have gone under if not for CNC technology? How many millions of jobs were created by the flood of cheap CNC cut parts and technology? Would an AR cost $600 right now without it? |
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