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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:51:25 PM EDT
[#1]
*goes outside to take a piss*
Dominion that puddle, asshole... |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:53:44 PM EDT
[#2]
so can I collect rain water in a 55 gallon barrel or not?
FBHO |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:54:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: so can I collect rain water in a 55 gallon barrel or not? FBHO |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:54:31 PM EDT
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*goes outside to take a piss* Dominion that puddle, asshole... 
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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:54:59 PM EDT
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so can I collect rain water in a 55 gallon barrel or not? FBHO you might be unpleasantly surprised at the answer. http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/16/man-jailed-for-collecting-rainwater-in-illegal-reservoirs-on-his-property/ |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:55:36 PM EDT
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oh great
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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:56:38 PM EDT
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Water is the key to life. Control the water, you control life.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:57:05 PM EDT
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They have been talking about this for a decade, surprised it took so long.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:57:39 PM EDT
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FBHO and all.
But I thought fed's already controlled all wet lands and water ways? Why the fuck else have I been buying a FEDERAL duck stamp for years? |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:58:23 PM EDT
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Water is the key to life. Control the water, you control life. "The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." Ayn Rand |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:58:54 PM EDT
[#11]
Nestle.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:59:12 PM EDT
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They have been talking about this for a decade, surprised it took so long. It used to be a UN treaty though. Something along the line of "Treaty of the seas" or somesuch. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:59:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." Ayn Rand Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Water is the key to life. Control the water, you control life. "The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." Ayn Rand Those dystopian books were to be taken as a warning, not a manual..... |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:59:52 PM EDT
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Well, at least it clarifies things.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:01:22 PM EDT
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Does that mean he has no control over CA?
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:02:49 PM EDT
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This is old news, as a wetland scientist working in the field for over 15 yrs. ACOE regulates all........
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:03:10 PM EDT
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McCarthy claimed the new powers would “not interfere with private property rights or address land use." 
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:03:29 PM EDT
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Honestly I don't know how the biggest liberal democrats could keep pulling the levers for these guys. They all sound alike in their stump speeches " people must this, everyone must that, this has to change, that must stop" Fuck, sound like a dictator much? People aint gonna wise up 'till it's too late...again.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:04:36 PM EDT
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you might be unpleasantly surprised at the answer. http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/16/man-jailed-for-collecting-rainwater-in-illegal-reservoirs-on-his-property/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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so can I collect rain water in a 55 gallon barrel or not? FBHO you might be unpleasantly surprised at the answer. http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/16/man-jailed-for-collecting-rainwater-in-illegal-reservoirs-on-his-property/ Gary Harrington has collected nearly 13 million gallons of water in his reservoirs (one of which is pictured below). That's enough to fill 20 Olympic-size swimming pools. But two weeks ago, he was found guilty of breaking the 1925 Oregon law against private water collection. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and issued a $1,500 fine.
Oregon's Water Resources Department said that though it is legal to set up rainwater collection barrels on roofs or other artificial surfaces, Harrington's reservoirs go way beyond that and required permits. That one seems to be more of a permit dispute to make ponds on his property. And it's at the state level. Though it makes one wonder what the issue is at the state level that would demand he not have ponds. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:05:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: McCarthy claimed the new powers would "not interfere with private property rights or address land use." If you like your private property rights, you can keep your private property rights |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:05:11 PM EDT
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*goes outside to take a piss* Dominion that puddle, asshole... Your fine for dumping biological waste into a public waterway will be 500,000 and a 10 year sentence at the re-education camp. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:07:14 PM EDT
[#22]
Get fucked.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:07:38 PM EDT
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That one seems to be more of a permit dispute to make ponds on his property. And it's at the state level. Though it makes one wonder what the issue is at the state level that would demand he not have ponds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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so can I collect rain water in a 55 gallon barrel or not? FBHO you might be unpleasantly surprised at the answer. http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/16/man-jailed-for-collecting-rainwater-in-illegal-reservoirs-on-his-property/ Gary Harrington has collected nearly 13 million gallons of water in his reservoirs (one of which is pictured below). That's enough to fill 20 Olympic-size swimming pools. But two weeks ago, he was found guilty of breaking the 1925 Oregon law against private water collection. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and issued a $1,500 fine.
Oregon's Water Resources Department said that though it is legal to set up rainwater collection barrels on roofs or other artificial surfaces, Harrington's reservoirs go way beyond that and required permits. That one seems to be more of a permit dispute to make ponds on his property. And it's at the state level. Though it makes one wonder what the issue is at the state level that would demand he not have ponds. Most states have laws on the books about how many acre feet of water you can collect. It's not because collection of water, but because of the danger down stream if your holding facilities break down. I was in charge of the dams at my community I live in (we have 3, including one registered dam) - we had to register and maintain our dam and response plan in case of failure. That was because of the road way and houses down stream, if it were to collapse. 20 acres of water, is a lot of fucking water and can do a substantial amount of damage. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:08:23 PM EDT
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This would be the reason why last week WY made it illegal for private citizens (read: eco activists) to go and do data collection (read: fabricating pollution evidence) on lands they don't have permission to research so they can't go drag landowners or land users into court and have the EPA crush them.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:11:11 PM EDT
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- Most states have laws on the books about how many acre feet of water you can collect. It's not because collection of water, but because of the danger down stream if your holding facilities break down. I was in charge of the dams at my community I live in (we have 3, including one registered dam) - we had to register and maintain our dam and response plan in case of failure. That was because of the road way and houses down stream, if it were to collapse. 20 acres of water, is a lot of fucking water and can do a substantial amount of damage. That makes a lot of sense - I figured something along similar lines. But in that story in question they gave him permits, then revoked them and have apparently been fighting with him in court for 10 years. If it's a safety issue, one would think (well, hope) it wouldn't take 10 years to correct. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:12:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, you may not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: so can I collect rain water in a 55 gallon barrel or not? FBHO |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:15:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: McCarthy claimed the new powers would "not interfere with private property rights or address land use." How they say that shit with a straight face is beyond comprehension.....Commie fucks. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:16:27 PM EDT
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How long until the first/next Clive Bundy incident? Certainly before 0 leaves office I would assume.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:16:38 PM EDT
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This is old news, as a wetland scientist working in the field for over 15 yrs. ACOE regulates all........ I believe the national reference is AOSE and outside of New England they are pretty inept. Great we are all becoming CT This is actually big news with mounting lies.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:17:25 PM EDT
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"The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." Ayn Rand Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Water is the key to life. Control the water, you control life. "The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." Ayn Rand That's an incorrect quotation of Rand. If it was really hers, that same quote should be about 72 pages long. 
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:17:44 PM EDT
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The U.N.’s Law of the Sea Treaty Threatens Our National Sovereignty
"The latest threat to U.S. sovereignty is the United Nations’ Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) that is being pushed by the Obama administration. LOST rises from the dead every few years. For more than thirty years, the United States has refused to become a party to LOST for good reasons. But this could be the year that the United States surrenders its sovereignty over the seas to an international body if Obama gets his way. Under this treaty, the U.N. would have control over 71 percent of the Earth’s surface. This would be a huge step towards global governance. The Senate may vote to ratify the sea treaty as early as next week. President Ronald Reagan rejected LOST back in 1982, stating it would grant the U.N. the power to tax U.S. companies and redistribute wealth from developed to undeveloped nations." http://townhall.com/columnists/julieborowski/2012/05/31/the_uns_law_of_the_sea_treaty_threatens_our_national_sovereignty/page/full Executive version of this? Fucktards never give up. Jefferson was so correct about vigilance. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:18:43 PM EDT
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This is how they will ruin dissenters. Make everyday activities illegal, and you create as many criminals as you want.
"Show me the man, I'll show you the crime." -- Beria. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:19:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes you may, but Obama owns it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: so can I collect rain water in a 55 gallon barrel or not? FBHO |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:20:23 PM EDT
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This may well effect my family as wells as many more that I know, it is no laughing matter.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:23:56 PM EDT
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*goes outside to take a piss* Dominion that puddle, asshole... I'm pissing off my porch into a 55 gallon drum....awaiting the arrival of my urine overlords..... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:32:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most states have laws on the books about how many acre feet of water you can collect. It's not because collection of water, but because of the danger down stream if your holding facilities break down. I was in charge of the dams at my community I live in (we have 3, including one registered dam) - we had to register and maintain our dam and response plan in case of failure. That was because of the road way and houses down stream, if it were to collapse. 20 acres of water, is a lot of fucking water and can do a substantial amount of damage. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: so can I collect rain water in a 55 gallon barrel or not? FBHO you might be unpleasantly surprised at the answer. http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/16/man-jailed-for-collecting-rainwater-in-illegal-reservoirs-on-his-property/ Gary Harrington has collected nearly 13 million gallons of water in his reservoirs (one of which is pictured below). That's enough to fill 20 Olympic-size swimming pools. But two weeks ago, he was found guilty of breaking the 1925 Oregon law against private water collection. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and issued a $1,500 fine. Oregon's Water Resources Department said that though it is legal to set up rainwater collection barrels on roofs or other artificial surfaces, Harrington's reservoirs go way beyond that and required permits. That one seems to be more of a permit dispute to make ponds on his property. And it's at the state level. Though it makes one wonder what the issue is at the state level that would demand he not have ponds. Most states have laws on the books about how many acre feet of water you can collect. It's not because collection of water, but because of the danger down stream if your holding facilities break down. I was in charge of the dams at my community I live in (we have 3, including one registered dam) - we had to register and maintain our dam and response plan in case of failure. That was because of the road way and houses down stream, if it were to collapse. 20 acres of water, is a lot of fucking water and can do a substantial amount of damage. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:33:16 PM EDT
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Fuck Congress with a sharp stick for abdicating their responsibility and duty to make laws and keep the Executive branch in check, and for giving these alphabet agencies unlimited power to make shit up and control every detail of every citizen's daily life under threat of prosecution, fines, penalties and jail, with little chance for recourse..
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:34:45 PM EDT
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This is old news, as a wetland scientist working in the field for over 15 yrs. ACOE regulates all........ Yeah. The fed gov has been at this for a long time using the CWA to extend its reach beyond what is constitutionally permissible. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:37:08 PM EDT
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Water is the key to life. Control the water, you control life. And here I thought it was spice. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:40:53 PM EDT
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IIRC your body belongs to you - but your water belongs to the tribe.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:41:38 PM EDT
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Wouldn't surprise me to see a total ban on 2 stroke outboards come down the pipe like some lakes California.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:42:25 PM EDT
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Those dystopian books were to be taken as a warning, not a manual..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Water is the key to life. Control the water, you control life. "The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." Ayn Rand Those dystopian books were to be taken as a warning, not a manual..... Tell that to our .GOV |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:42:47 PM EDT
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So, what happens to people that own all mineral/water rights on their property?(as an example a farmer/rancher in the southwest who has specific deeded water rights?)
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Posted: 5/27/2015 3:12:54 PM EDT
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So, what happens to people that own all mineral/water rights on their property?(as an example a farmer/rancher in the southwest who has specific deeded water rights?) He has a pen and a phone. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 3:20:07 PM EDT
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this is the kind of thing that sparks revolutions...
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Posted: 5/27/2015 3:21:08 PM EDT
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Looks like .gov took it as a manual. Tell that to our .GOV Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Water is the key to life. Control the water, you control life. "The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." Ayn Rand Those dystopian books were to be taken as a warning, not a manual..... Looks like .gov took it as a manual. Tell that to our .GOV |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 3:23:48 PM EDT
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That's an incorrect quotation of Rand. If it was really hers, that same quote should be about 72 pages long. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Water is the key to life. Control the water, you control life. "The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." Ayn Rand That's an incorrect quotation of Rand. If it was really hers, that same quote should be about 72 pages long. You're right. I believe Dr. Ferris said that to Bertram Scudder.... |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 3:23:58 PM EDT
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fascists gonna fascist. The illusion that you own your own land.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 3:24:21 PM EDT
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This could be as big of a power grab as the corrupting of "interstate commerce".
Imagine what they can tell you can and cannot be done. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 3:26:07 PM EDT
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Water is the key to life. Control the water, you control life. "The water must flowww...." 
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