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Link Posted: 5/27/2015 8:42:42 PM EDT
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So a beer with supper because I like the way it tastes makes me a substance abuser?

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I'll have none of your lip, drunky!




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They're mighty proud of their booze.



 
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I'll have none of your lip, drunky!




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I'll have none of your lip, drunky!




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Pot calling the kettle black?




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Link Posted: 5/27/2015 8:50:52 PM EDT
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OP,

Serious question.  How well do you get along with the bartenders at this place you hang out?
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 8:52:34 PM EDT
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I really don't have to ask any more questions of people who rely on a chemical to make them feel better.  I don't see a difference between people who get drunk often and pot heads or pill heads or any other substance abuser.  

As a matter of fact in many cases people who get drunk often are worse than some others.
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When you woke up this morning and (seemingly) felt fantastic, I actually felt a little bit sorry for you. That's as good as you're going to feel all day, you poor bastard.

Feel free to ask any followup questions, as you deem necessary.
I really don't have to ask any more questions of people who rely on a chemical to make them feel better.  I don't see a difference between people who get drunk often and pot heads or pill heads or any other substance abuser.  

As a matter of fact in many cases people who get drunk often are worse than some others.



I feel the same way towards religious people.  We should hang out.

Beers on me!!!
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 8:54:45 PM EDT
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Pot calling the kettle black?




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I'll have none of your lip, drunky!




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Pot calling the kettle black?




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What exactly are you insinuating, Sir?

I am the perfect model of humility and temperance!





(Sorry for the late reply, had to refill my bourbon.)
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 8:58:52 PM EDT
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At the restaurant I worked at, straight liquors on the rocks were an upcharge because it was a larger pour.

Dewars on the rocks?  Upcharge.

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Makes sense.

Ordering on the rocks for extra booze payload is certainly a trick known to the drinking public.
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 9:03:48 PM EDT
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Why didn't you throw these bums out on the street?
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 9:05:25 PM EDT
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never heard of such a thing.

Also, a cyborg drinking thread.

Is this bizzarro world?
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 9:07:09 PM EDT
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When you woke up this morning and (seemingly) felt fantastic, I actually felt a little bit sorry for you. That's as good as you're going to feel all day, you poor bastard.

Feel free to ask any followup questions, as you deem necessary.
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When you woke up this morning and (seemingly) felt fantastic, I actually felt a little bit sorry for you. That's as good as you're going to feel all day, you poor bastard.

Feel free to ask any followup questions, as you deem necessary.


The Chaiman of the Board couldn't have said it better himself.
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 9:07:44 PM EDT
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The Chaiman of the Board couldn't have said it better himself.
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When you woke up this morning and (seemingly) felt fantastic, I actually felt a little bit sorry for you. That's as good as you're going to feel all day, you poor bastard.

Feel free to ask any followup questions, as you deem necessary.


The Chaiman of the Board couldn't have said it better himself.

Link Posted: 5/27/2015 9:10:29 PM EDT
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They're mighty proud of their booze.
 
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Link Posted: 5/27/2015 9:11:48 PM EDT
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Happened to me once....never went back.  How'd that up charge work out ya fucks?
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 9:11:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/27/2015 9:19:43 PM EDT
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Ill say it again pretty much every place charges more for rocks or neat just because you dont see
Jack daniels $3
Rocks$2
You see jack daniels rocks$5
If you order just a shot it will be less unless they pour the same amount for botb which is not proper or the bartender is either an idiot or likes you

You are all paying more for rocks pours weather you know it or not.
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 9:38:22 PM EDT
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When you woke up this morning and (seemingly) felt fantastic, I actually felt a little bit sorry for you. That's as good as you're going to feel all day, you poor bastard.



Feel free to ask any followup questions, as you deem necessary.
I really don't have to ask any more questions of people who rely on a chemical to make them feel better.  I don't see a difference between people who get drunk often and pot heads or pill heads or any other substance abuser.  



As a matter of fact in many cases people who get drunk often are worse than some others.



  There is a little thing called moderation, but then in your mind there seems to only be two things, sober and drunk.

There is sober and not sober, not sure what else you could call it besides "under the influence".  




So a beer with supper because I like the way it tastes makes me a substance abuser?



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I don't really understand how that's a question.  You're taking a chemical that will alter your state of mind.  Just because one substance is way more popular than others and legal doesn't mean that it's any different from a drug.

 
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 9:39:39 PM EDT
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I feel the same way towards religious people.  We should hang out.



Beers on me!!!
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When you woke up this morning and (seemingly) felt fantastic, I actually felt a little bit sorry for you. That's as good as you're going to feel all day, you poor bastard.



Feel free to ask any followup questions, as you deem necessary.
I really don't have to ask any more questions of people who rely on a chemical to make them feel better.  I don't see a difference between people who get drunk often and pot heads or pill heads or any other substance abuser.  



As a matter of fact in many cases people who get drunk often are worse than some others.







I feel the same way towards religious people.  We should hang out.



Beers on me!!!
Woohoo!!!  I'll trade my beers for chicken wings

 
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 9:57:54 PM EDT
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Ill say it again pretty much every place charges more for rocks or neat just because you dont see
Jack daniels $3
Rocks$2
You see jack daniels rocks$5
If you order just a shot it will be less unless they pour the same amount for botb which is not proper or the bartender is either an idiot or likes you

You are all paying more for rocks pours weather you know it or not.
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Happened to me once....never went back.  How'd that up charge work out ya fucks?

Ill say it again pretty much every place charges more for rocks or neat just because you dont see
Jack daniels $3
Rocks$2
You see jack daniels rocks$5
If you order just a shot it will be less unless they pour the same amount for botb which is not proper or the bartender is either an idiot or likes you

You are all paying more for rocks pours weather you know it or not.


How do you figure that?  You expect me to believe they really pour more booze than a neat drink because there's ice in it?  Oooook.  In my experience they usually pour same or less because the ice makes it look more full.
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How do you figure that?  You expect me to believe they really pour more booze than a neat drink because there's ice in it?  Oooook.  In my experience they usually pour same or less because the ice makes it look more full.
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Happened to me once....never went back.  How'd that up charge work out ya fucks?

Ill say it again pretty much every place charges more for rocks or neat just because you dont see
Jack daniels $3
Rocks$2
You see jack daniels rocks$5
If you order just a shot it will be less unless they pour the same amount for botb which is not proper or the bartender is either an idiot or likes you

You are all paying more for rocks pours weather you know it or not.


How do you figure that?  You expect me to believe they really pour more booze than a neat drink because there's ice in it?  Oooook.  In my experience they usually pour same or less because the ice makes it look more full.

You're the only guy in this thread that needs to find a new bartender.
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...and that's when I walk out the door.
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I don't really understand how that's a question.  You're taking a chemical that will alter your state of mind.  Just because one substance is way more popular than others and legal doesn't mean that it's any different from a drug.  
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The photons popping out of your screen alter your state of mind.



Bam, just shot some oxytocin into your brain. We're just a soup of chemicals anyway, what is the problem with adding a few more. Unaltered mental states are impossible. What separates us from animals is we can choose to influence our chemistry. Not to sound too much like Timothy Leary though.
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 11:44:42 PM EDT
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various BS pricing schemes that they pull out of their butt in the spur of the moment,stick with a beer and a shot
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It all begins when a person is an innocent waif traipsing through life.  Everything is new, fresh and exciting.  Then responsibilities begin to weigh upon that person.  Liabilities start to occur.  Debt creeps in and energy levels wane.  The person sees clouds for the first time in their rosy forecast, and is ultimately forced to admit that life is not just a joyous exercise of flip fantastic sex while dangling from a ceiling fan.

There are dark forces at work in even the happiest of lives.  Cancer, the madman next door, diseased ticks lurking in the shrubbery, intractably stupid children who won't stop drooling upon the upholstery, lost television remotes, on and on.

Marriages sour and turn as dry as the prairie wind.  A spouse can transform into a bitter harpy hellbent on squeezing the last precious drop of hope from a person.  To paraphrase Thoreau people start to live lives of quiet desperation...and the song dies in them.

These are the dark forces from which Vodka, for one, is forged.  Vodka is the essence of want and need, of false hope and bitter winter.  It is filtered through the shards of a thousand shattered dreams.

It burns when you drink it, but the burn feels so good.  Much like how Blues music is about failure...yet you feel good when you listen to it.

You know alcohol is false, but for the moment it is full of promise.  You know, promise?  Like you used to have?



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It all begins when a person is an innocent waif traipsing through life.  Everything is new, fresh and exciting.  Then responsibilities begin to weigh upon that person.  Liabilities start to occur.  Debt creeps in and energy levels wane.  The person sees clouds for the first time in their rosy forecast, and is ultimately forced to admit that life is not just a joyous exercise of flip fantastic sex while dangling from a ceiling fan.

There are dark forces at work in even the happiest of lives.  Cancer, the madman next door, diseased ticks lurking in the shrubbery, intractably stupid children who won't stop drooling upon the upholstery, lost television remotes, on and on.

Marriages sour and turn as dry as the prairie wind.  A spouse can transform into a bitter harpy hellbent on squeezing the last precious drop of hope from a person.  To paraphrase Thoreau people start to live lives of quiet desperation...and the song dies in them.

These are the dark forces from which Vodka, for one, is forged.  Vodka is the essence of want and need, of false hope and bitter winter.  It is filtered through the shards of a thousand shattered dreams.

It burns when you drink it, but the burn feels so good.  Much like how Blues music is about failure...yet you feel good when you listen to it.

You know alcohol is false, but for the moment it is full of promise.  You know, promise?  Like you used to have?





Too long to fit, but sig material for sure.
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 11:55:09 PM EDT
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College bar back in the day had $1 rail drinks.

I asked for a shot of Tequilla, that was $3. I asked for a Tequila Sunrise, that was $1.

I asked for a Tequila Sunrise, hold the OJ and hold the Syrup, no ice. that was $1.
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I've been bartending for years and I have never seen it.



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Boom! Headshot.



OP, you're paying the stupid tax.



 
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Boom! Headshot.

OP, you're paying the stupid tax.
 
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But why are you ordering a Martini on the rocks?  I'd charge you extra for that idiocy just on principle.  

Boom! Headshot.

OP, you're paying the stupid tax.
 


That's what I was going to suggest.  That or a PITA tax.  See my fellow intoxicologists do it fairly regularly.
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It all begins when a person is an innocent waif traipsing through life.  Everything is new, fresh and exciting.  Then responsibilities begin to weigh upon that person.  Liabilities start to occur.  Debt creeps in and energy levels wane.  The person sees clouds for the first time in their rosy forecast, and is ultimately forced to admit that life is not just a joyous exercise of flip fantastic sex while dangling from a ceiling fan.

There are dark forces at work in even the happiest of lives.  Cancer, the madman next door, diseased ticks lurking in the shrubbery, intractably stupid children who won't stop drooling upon the upholstery, lost television remotes, on and on.

Marriages sour and turn as dry as the prairie wind.  A spouse can transform into a bitter harpy hellbent on squeezing the last precious drop of hope from a person.  To paraphrase Thoreau people start to live lives of quiet desperation...and the song dies in them.

These are the dark forces from which Vodka, for one, is forged.  Vodka is the essence of want and need, of false hope and bitter winter.  It is filtered through the shards of a thousand shattered dreams.

It burns when you drink it, but the burn feels so good.  Much like how Blues music is about failure...yet you feel good when you listen to it.

You know alcohol is false, but for the moment it is full of promise.  You know, promise?  Like you used to have?



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It all begins when a person is an innocent waif traipsing through life.  Everything is new, fresh and exciting.  Then responsibilities begin to weigh upon that person.  Liabilities start to occur.  Debt creeps in and energy levels wane.  The person sees clouds for the first time in their rosy forecast, and is ultimately forced to admit that life is not just a joyous exercise of flip fantastic sex while dangling from a ceiling fan.

There are dark forces at work in even the happiest of lives.  Cancer, the madman next door, diseased ticks lurking in the shrubbery, intractably stupid children who won't stop drooling upon the upholstery, lost television remotes, on and on.

Marriages sour and turn as dry as the prairie wind.  A spouse can transform into a bitter harpy hellbent on squeezing the last precious drop of hope from a person.  To paraphrase Thoreau people start to live lives of quiet desperation...and the song dies in them.

These are the dark forces from which Vodka, for one, is forged.  Vodka is the essence of want and need, of false hope and bitter winter.  It is filtered through the shards of a thousand shattered dreams.

It burns when you drink it, but the burn feels so good.  Much like how Blues music is about failure...yet you feel good when you listen to it.

You know alcohol is false, but for the moment it is full of promise.  You know, promise?  Like you used to have?





Brav-fucking-o.

Well done.
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OK, a rabbi, a minister and a duck walk into a bar.  Well, not the duck.  He ducked out.
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very simple

On Saturday you drink a bunch of what amounts to industrial chemical solvent and disinfectant

then the next day you feel like crap while your body recuperates from being forced to metabolize neurotoxin

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very simple

On Saturday you drink a bunch of what amounts to industrial chemical solvent and disinfectant

then the next day you feel like crap while your body recuperates from being forced to metabolize neurotoxin



Not all of us feel bad the next day. I call it the "drunk" gene.
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It makes teeners easier to tolerate
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It makes teeners easier to tolerate


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You're the only guy in this thread that needs to find a new bartender.
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Happened to me once....never went back.  How'd that up charge work out ya fucks?

Ill say it again pretty much every place charges more for rocks or neat just because you dont see
Jack daniels $3
Rocks$2
You see jack daniels rocks$5
If you order just a shot it will be less unless they pour the same amount for botb which is not proper or the bartender is either an idiot or likes you

You are all paying more for rocks pours weather you know it or not.


How do you figure that?  You expect me to believe they really pour more booze than a neat drink because there's ice in it?  Oooook.  In my experience they usually pour same or less because the ice makes it look more full.

You're the only guy in this thread that needs to find a new bartender.


 Not to mention you can tell he's never worked in a bar or restaurant in his life.
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correct answer has already been posted several times.  the upcharge is not for the ice--it's for a "rocks pour", which is slightly larger than a normal portion (often ~20%, sometimes more).  this policy varies from place to place.

there are 2 major issues in play.  first and most directly, 1.25 oz (37ml) of liquid will not even remotely fill a normal rocks glass, even when it is packed with ice.  for industry standard libbey rocks glasses properly iced, 1.25 oz will reach the bottom of the bevels when it is first poured.  ~ 60 sec later, enough ice will have melted that the glass will appear full.  however, the initial appearance creates complaints.  people think that they're getting ripped off.  the rocks pour is an effective way around this--it delivers real and perceived value to the guest.

secondly, meltwater has a substantial influence on flavor, and creates problems when ordering doubles.  put simply, single pours tend to be consumed too quickly, while doubles tend to sit on the ice too long and get watered down.  the intermediate rocks pour looks substantial, lasts for a respectable amount of time, but doesn't sit around so long that the flavor gets washed out.

long story short, you probably aren't getting anything for free, but you probably aren't getting gouged either.
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I'll bet you're a blast at parties...no, not really
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How do you figure that?  You expect me to believe they really pour more booze than a neat drink because there's ice in it?  Oooook.  In my experience they usually pour same or less because the ice makes it look more full.
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Happened to me once....never went back.  How'd that up charge work out ya fucks?

Ill say it again pretty much every place charges more for rocks or neat just because you dont see
Jack daniels $3
Rocks$2
You see jack daniels rocks$5
If you order just a shot it will be less unless they pour the same amount for botb which is not proper or the bartender is either an idiot or likes you

You are all paying more for rocks pours weather you know it or not.


How do you figure that?  You expect me to believe they really pour more booze than a neat drink because there's ice in it?  Oooook.  In my experience they usually pour same or less because the ice makes it look more full.



yes.  no.  it's pretty difficult to short pour a single liquor rocks drink, due to glass size and the inability to cheat it with other ingredients.  it can be done (by using wet ice, for example), but it's not convenient.  

bartenders worship at the altar of convenience.
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like spicy food?  the reason that you do is because spice stimulates endorphin release.  it's a chemical that alters your state of mind.  same with caffeine, sugar, chocolate.  whole grains increase seratonin levels, just like prozac.

sleep deprivation also alters your state of mind.  do you have moral convictions about that?
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You're incredibly naive or simply ignorant if you think a bar is giving away alcohol.
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like spicy food? the reason that you do is because spice stimulates endorphin release. it's a chemical that alters your state of mind. same with caffeine, sugar, chocolate. whole grains increase seratonin levels, just like prozac.



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You're taking a chemical that will alter your state of mind. Just because one substance is way more popular than others and legal doesn't mean that it's any different from a drug.




like spicy food? the reason that you do is because spice stimulates endorphin release. it's a chemical that alters your state of mind. same with caffeine, sugar, chocolate. whole grains increase seratonin levels, just like prozac.



sleep deprivation also alters your state of mind. do you have moral convictions about that?


He can't hear you up on his high horse.
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like spicy food?  the reason that you do is because spice stimulates endorphin release.  it's a chemical that alters your state of mind.  same with caffeine, sugar, chocolate.  whole grains increase seratonin levels, just like prozac.

sleep deprivation also alters your state of mind.  do you have moral convictions about that?
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You're taking a chemical that will alter your state of mind.  Just because one substance is way more popular than others and legal doesn't mean that it's any different from a drug.  


like spicy food?  the reason that you do is because spice stimulates endorphin release.  it's a chemical that alters your state of mind.  same with caffeine, sugar, chocolate.  whole grains increase seratonin levels, just like prozac.

sleep deprivation also alters your state of mind.  do you have moral convictions about that?


Exercise really gets me high as a kite.  After a good run my mind is beyond altered.

Guess I'm basically a meth head.  

Link Posted: 5/28/2015 10:39:53 AM EDT
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Isn't "neat" and "straight up" the same thing?

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Some restaurants will add a fee for drinks that are served on the rocks



supposedly the drink has an extra oz liquor pour so they tack on an extra $1 to $4 for the extra booze



apparently depending on their policy, different restaurants charge this fee for drinks served neat, on the rocks and straight up



how could all of the alternatives have extra booze poured?



something doesn't compute



the only one that makes sense is a drink served neat, because extra booze would take the place of the ice if the glass is filled full



they pull this scam on all kinds of drinks now - martinis, scotch, old fashioned, you name it









Isn't "neat" and "straight up" the same thing?

Not at all. Neat is right out of the bottle, straight up is booze shaken/stirred with ice and strained.

 
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 12:29:48 PM EDT
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I am considered an apostate because I prefer ice with both bourbon and with a martini.



Why? Magic happens at the point at which substances change form from solid to liquid. Magic.




In bourbon, this is expressed as a bloom of sweetness. In a martini, this is expressed as a deepening of the floral notes from the aromatics in the gin. It's like that magic that happens when you put from-the-fridge-cold butter on a slice of bread and then dollop on a spoon of hot stew and take a bite. Flavors explode as the hot stew melts the butter in your mouth. Magic.




I don't give a fuck if everyone else in the whirled thinks I'm looney for noticing this. It is manifestly there and it is worth experiencing. YMMV and all that.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 12:36:31 PM EDT
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I am considered an apostate because I prefer ice with both bourbon and with a martini.

Why? Magic happens at the point at which substances change form from solid to liquid. Magic.


In bourbon, this is expressed as a bloom of sweetness. In a martini, this is expressed as a deepening of the floral notes from the aromatics in the gin. It's like that magic that happens when you put from-the-fridge-cold butter on a slice of bread and then dollop on a spoon of hot stew and take a bite. Flavors explode as the hot stew melts the butter in your mouth. Magic.


I don't give a fuck if everyone else in the whirled thinks I'm looney for noticing this. It is manifestly there and it is worth experiencing. YMMV and all that.
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The whole whirled, or just the more advanced parts of the whirled?
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The whole whirled, or just the more advanced parts of the whirled?
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I am considered an apostate because I prefer ice with both bourbon and with a martini.



Why? Magic happens at the point at which substances change form from solid to liquid. Magic.





In bourbon, this is expressed as a bloom of sweetness. In a martini, this is expressed as a deepening of the floral notes from the aromatics in the gin. It's like that magic that happens when you put from-the-fridge-cold butter on a slice of bread and then dollop on a spoon of hot stew and take a bite. Flavors explode as the hot stew melts the butter in your mouth. Magic.





I don't give a fuck if everyone else in the whirled thinks I'm looney for noticing this. It is manifestly there and it is worth experiencing. YMMV and all that.



The whole whirled, or just the more advanced parts of the whirled?
Any or all of it.

 
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How do you figure that?  You expect me to believe they really pour more booze than a neat drink because there's ice in it?  Oooook.  In my experience they usually pour same or less because the ice makes it look more full.
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Happened to me once....never went back.  How'd that up charge work out ya fucks?

Ill say it again pretty much every place charges more for rocks or neat just because you dont see
Jack daniels $3
Rocks$2
You see jack daniels rocks$5
If you order just a shot it will be less unless they pour the same amount for botb which is not proper or the bartender is either an idiot or likes you

You are all paying more for rocks pours weather you know it or not.


How do you figure that?  You expect me to believe they really pour more booze than a neat drink because there's ice in it?  Oooook.  In my experience they usually pour same or less because the ice makes it look more full.

a neat pour is usually the same as a rocks pour it is also an upcharge over a shot
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I am considered an apostate because I prefer ice with both bourbon and with a martini.



Why? Magic happens at the point at which substances change form from solid to liquid. Magic.





In bourbon, this is expressed as a bloom of sweetness. In a martini, this is expressed as a deepening of the floral notes from the aromatics in the gin. It's like that magic that happens when you put from-the-fridge-cold butter on a slice of bread and then dollop on a spoon of hot stew and take a bite. Flavors explode as the hot stew melts the butter in your mouth. Magic.





I don't give a fuck if everyone else in the whirled thinks I'm looney for noticing this. It is manifestly there and it is worth experiencing. YMMV and all that.

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A few drops of water will open up the whiskey (or whisky) better than an ice cube, much less a pile of ice cubes. The lower temperature suppresses the flavor.




Similarly, a martini is mixed with ice then the drink is strained from the ice. That small amount of water opens up the flavors of the gin plenty, and keeps the drink from becoming so cold that the flavors are suppressed.
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Someone please explain drinking alcohol
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When you woke up this morning and (seemingly) felt fantastic, I actually felt a little bit sorry for you. That's as good as you're going to feel all day, you poor bastard.
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I really don't have to ask any more questions of people who rely on a chemical to make them feel better.  I don't see a difference between people who get drunk often and pot heads or pill heads or any other substance abuser.  
As a matter of fact in many cases people who get drunk often are worse than some others.
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like spicy food?  the reason that you do is because spice stimulates endorphin release.  it's a chemical that alters your state of mind.  same with caffeine, sugar, chocolate.  whole grains increase seratonin levels, just like prozac.



sleep deprivation also alters your state of mind.  do you have moral convictions about that?
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You're taking a chemical that will alter your state of mind.  Just because one substance is way more popular than others and legal doesn't mean that it's any different from a drug.  




like spicy food?  the reason that you do is because spice stimulates endorphin release.  it's a chemical that alters your state of mind.  same with caffeine, sugar, chocolate.  whole grains increase seratonin levels, just like prozac.



sleep deprivation also alters your state of mind.  do you have moral convictions about that?
Did I say I have moral convictions?

 



I love caffeine. Love the way it makes me feel. I just don't pretend it's not a chemical. Not all chemicals affect your brain the same way or as drastically. That's why I can drink caffeine and drive a car legally.
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So, other words, all our prices are lies, because both neat and rocks will be more?
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So, other words, all our prices are lies, because both neat and rocks will be more?



never seen or heard of it, but that menu is ridiculous
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