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So a beer with supper because I like the way it tastes makes me a substance abuser? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'll have none of your lip, drunky! ETA: Wrong smiley. Pot calling the kettle black? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I really don't have to ask any more questions of people who rely on a chemical to make them feel better. I don't see a difference between people who get drunk often and pot heads or pill heads or any other substance abuser. As a matter of fact in many cases people who get drunk often are worse than some others. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Someone please explain drinking alcohol When you woke up this morning and (seemingly) felt fantastic, I actually felt a little bit sorry for you. That's as good as you're going to feel all day, you poor bastard. Feel free to ask any followup questions, as you deem necessary. As a matter of fact in many cases people who get drunk often are worse than some others. I feel the same way towards religious people. We should hang out. Beers on me!!! |
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So a beer with supper because I like the way it tastes makes me a substance abuser? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'll have none of your lip, drunky! ETA: Wrong smiley. Pot calling the kettle black? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile What exactly are you insinuating, Sir? I am the perfect model of humility and temperance! (Sorry for the late reply, had to refill my bourbon.) |
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At the restaurant I worked at, straight liquors on the rocks were an upcharge because it was a larger pour. Dewars on the rocks? Upcharge. Martini on the rocks? No upcharge, same pour. View Quote Makes sense. Ordering on the rocks for extra booze payload is certainly a trick known to the drinking public. |
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never heard of such a thing.
Also, a cyborg drinking thread. Is this bizzarro world? |
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When you woke up this morning and (seemingly) felt fantastic, I actually felt a little bit sorry for you. That's as good as you're going to feel all day, you poor bastard. Feel free to ask any followup questions, as you deem necessary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Someone please explain drinking alcohol When you woke up this morning and (seemingly) felt fantastic, I actually felt a little bit sorry for you. That's as good as you're going to feel all day, you poor bastard. Feel free to ask any followup questions, as you deem necessary. The Chaiman of the Board couldn't have said it better himself. |
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Someone please explain drinking alcohol When you woke up this morning and (seemingly) felt fantastic, I actually felt a little bit sorry for you. That's as good as you're going to feel all day, you poor bastard. Feel free to ask any followup questions, as you deem necessary. The Chaiman of the Board couldn't have said it better himself. |
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real estate.literally a stones throw from madison sq garden and lenn station |
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Happened to me once....never went back. How'd that up charge work out ya fucks?
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Happened to me once....never went back. How'd that up charge work out ya fucks? View Quote Ill say it again pretty much every place charges more for rocks or neat just because you dont see Jack daniels $3 Rocks$2 You see jack daniels rocks$5 If you order just a shot it will be less unless they pour the same amount for botb which is not proper or the bartender is either an idiot or likes you You are all paying more for rocks pours weather you know it or not. |
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Quoted: So a beer with supper because I like the way it tastes makes me a substance abuser? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: When you woke up this morning and (seemingly) felt fantastic, I actually felt a little bit sorry for you. That's as good as you're going to feel all day, you poor bastard. Feel free to ask any followup questions, as you deem necessary. As a matter of fact in many cases people who get drunk often are worse than some others. There is a little thing called moderation, but then in your mind there seems to only be two things, sober and drunk. So a beer with supper because I like the way it tastes makes me a substance abuser? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Ill say it again pretty much every place charges more for rocks or neat just because you dont see Jack daniels $3 Rocks$2 You see jack daniels rocks$5 If you order just a shot it will be less unless they pour the same amount for botb which is not proper or the bartender is either an idiot or likes you You are all paying more for rocks pours weather you know it or not. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Happened to me once....never went back. How'd that up charge work out ya fucks? Ill say it again pretty much every place charges more for rocks or neat just because you dont see Jack daniels $3 Rocks$2 You see jack daniels rocks$5 If you order just a shot it will be less unless they pour the same amount for botb which is not proper or the bartender is either an idiot or likes you You are all paying more for rocks pours weather you know it or not. How do you figure that? You expect me to believe they really pour more booze than a neat drink because there's ice in it? Oooook. In my experience they usually pour same or less because the ice makes it look more full. |
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How do you figure that? You expect me to believe they really pour more booze than a neat drink because there's ice in it? Oooook. In my experience they usually pour same or less because the ice makes it look more full. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Happened to me once....never went back. How'd that up charge work out ya fucks? Ill say it again pretty much every place charges more for rocks or neat just because you dont see Jack daniels $3 Rocks$2 You see jack daniels rocks$5 If you order just a shot it will be less unless they pour the same amount for botb which is not proper or the bartender is either an idiot or likes you You are all paying more for rocks pours weather you know it or not. How do you figure that? You expect me to believe they really pour more booze than a neat drink because there's ice in it? Oooook. In my experience they usually pour same or less because the ice makes it look more full. You're the only guy in this thread that needs to find a new bartender. |
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View Quote ...and that's when I walk out the door. |
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various BS pricing schemes that they pull out of their butt in the spur of the moment,stick with a beer and a shot
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It all begins when a person is an innocent waif traipsing through life. Everything is new, fresh and exciting. Then responsibilities begin to weigh upon that person. Liabilities start to occur. Debt creeps in and energy levels wane. The person sees clouds for the first time in their rosy forecast, and is ultimately forced to admit that life is not just a joyous exercise of flip fantastic sex while dangling from a ceiling fan. There are dark forces at work in even the happiest of lives. Cancer, the madman next door, diseased ticks lurking in the shrubbery, intractably stupid children who won't stop drooling upon the upholstery, lost television remotes, on and on. Marriages sour and turn as dry as the prairie wind. A spouse can transform into a bitter harpy hellbent on squeezing the last precious drop of hope from a person. To paraphrase Thoreau people start to live lives of quiet desperation...and the song dies in them. These are the dark forces from which Vodka, for one, is forged. Vodka is the essence of want and need, of false hope and bitter winter. It is filtered through the shards of a thousand shattered dreams. It burns when you drink it, but the burn feels so good. Much like how Blues music is about failure...yet you feel good when you listen to it. You know alcohol is false, but for the moment it is full of promise. You know, promise? Like you used to have? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Someone please explain drinking alcohol It all begins when a person is an innocent waif traipsing through life. Everything is new, fresh and exciting. Then responsibilities begin to weigh upon that person. Liabilities start to occur. Debt creeps in and energy levels wane. The person sees clouds for the first time in their rosy forecast, and is ultimately forced to admit that life is not just a joyous exercise of flip fantastic sex while dangling from a ceiling fan. There are dark forces at work in even the happiest of lives. Cancer, the madman next door, diseased ticks lurking in the shrubbery, intractably stupid children who won't stop drooling upon the upholstery, lost television remotes, on and on. Marriages sour and turn as dry as the prairie wind. A spouse can transform into a bitter harpy hellbent on squeezing the last precious drop of hope from a person. To paraphrase Thoreau people start to live lives of quiet desperation...and the song dies in them. These are the dark forces from which Vodka, for one, is forged. Vodka is the essence of want and need, of false hope and bitter winter. It is filtered through the shards of a thousand shattered dreams. It burns when you drink it, but the burn feels so good. Much like how Blues music is about failure...yet you feel good when you listen to it. You know alcohol is false, but for the moment it is full of promise. You know, promise? Like you used to have? Too long to fit, but sig material for sure. |
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College bar back in the day had $1 rail drinks.
I asked for a shot of Tequilla, that was $3. I asked for a Tequila Sunrise, that was $1. I asked for a Tequila Sunrise, hold the OJ and hold the Syrup, no ice. that was $1. |
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I've been bartending for years and I have never seen it. But why are you ordering a Martini on the rocks? I'd charge you extra for that idiocy just on principle. Boom! Headshot. OP, you're paying the stupid tax. That's what I was going to suggest. That or a PITA tax. See my fellow intoxicologists do it fairly regularly. |
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It all begins when a person is an innocent waif traipsing through life. Everything is new, fresh and exciting. Then responsibilities begin to weigh upon that person. Liabilities start to occur. Debt creeps in and energy levels wane. The person sees clouds for the first time in their rosy forecast, and is ultimately forced to admit that life is not just a joyous exercise of flip fantastic sex while dangling from a ceiling fan. There are dark forces at work in even the happiest of lives. Cancer, the madman next door, diseased ticks lurking in the shrubbery, intractably stupid children who won't stop drooling upon the upholstery, lost television remotes, on and on. Marriages sour and turn as dry as the prairie wind. A spouse can transform into a bitter harpy hellbent on squeezing the last precious drop of hope from a person. To paraphrase Thoreau people start to live lives of quiet desperation...and the song dies in them. These are the dark forces from which Vodka, for one, is forged. Vodka is the essence of want and need, of false hope and bitter winter. It is filtered through the shards of a thousand shattered dreams. It burns when you drink it, but the burn feels so good. Much like how Blues music is about failure...yet you feel good when you listen to it. You know alcohol is false, but for the moment it is full of promise. You know, promise? Like you used to have? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Someone please explain drinking alcohol It all begins when a person is an innocent waif traipsing through life. Everything is new, fresh and exciting. Then responsibilities begin to weigh upon that person. Liabilities start to occur. Debt creeps in and energy levels wane. The person sees clouds for the first time in their rosy forecast, and is ultimately forced to admit that life is not just a joyous exercise of flip fantastic sex while dangling from a ceiling fan. There are dark forces at work in even the happiest of lives. Cancer, the madman next door, diseased ticks lurking in the shrubbery, intractably stupid children who won't stop drooling upon the upholstery, lost television remotes, on and on. Marriages sour and turn as dry as the prairie wind. A spouse can transform into a bitter harpy hellbent on squeezing the last precious drop of hope from a person. To paraphrase Thoreau people start to live lives of quiet desperation...and the song dies in them. These are the dark forces from which Vodka, for one, is forged. Vodka is the essence of want and need, of false hope and bitter winter. It is filtered through the shards of a thousand shattered dreams. It burns when you drink it, but the burn feels so good. Much like how Blues music is about failure...yet you feel good when you listen to it. You know alcohol is false, but for the moment it is full of promise. You know, promise? Like you used to have? Brav-fucking-o. Well done. |
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very simple On Saturday you drink a bunch of what amounts to industrial chemical solvent and disinfectant then the next day you feel like crap while your body recuperates from being forced to metabolize neurotoxin View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Someone please explain drinking alcohol very simple On Saturday you drink a bunch of what amounts to industrial chemical solvent and disinfectant then the next day you feel like crap while your body recuperates from being forced to metabolize neurotoxin Not all of us feel bad the next day. I call it the "drunk" gene. |
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Happened to me once....never went back. How'd that up charge work out ya fucks? Ill say it again pretty much every place charges more for rocks or neat just because you dont see Jack daniels $3 Rocks$2 You see jack daniels rocks$5 If you order just a shot it will be less unless they pour the same amount for botb which is not proper or the bartender is either an idiot or likes you You are all paying more for rocks pours weather you know it or not. How do you figure that? You expect me to believe they really pour more booze than a neat drink because there's ice in it? Oooook. In my experience they usually pour same or less because the ice makes it look more full. You're the only guy in this thread that needs to find a new bartender. Not to mention you can tell he's never worked in a bar or restaurant in his life. |
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correct answer has already been posted several times. the upcharge is not for the ice--it's for a "rocks pour", which is slightly larger than a normal portion (often ~20%, sometimes more). this policy varies from place to place.
there are 2 major issues in play. first and most directly, 1.25 oz (37ml) of liquid will not even remotely fill a normal rocks glass, even when it is packed with ice. for industry standard libbey rocks glasses properly iced, 1.25 oz will reach the bottom of the bevels when it is first poured. ~ 60 sec later, enough ice will have melted that the glass will appear full. however, the initial appearance creates complaints. people think that they're getting ripped off. the rocks pour is an effective way around this--it delivers real and perceived value to the guest. secondly, meltwater has a substantial influence on flavor, and creates problems when ordering doubles. put simply, single pours tend to be consumed too quickly, while doubles tend to sit on the ice too long and get watered down. the intermediate rocks pour looks substantial, lasts for a respectable amount of time, but doesn't sit around so long that the flavor gets washed out. long story short, you probably aren't getting anything for free, but you probably aren't getting gouged either. |
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I don't really understand how that's a question. You're taking a chemical that will alter your state of mind. Just because one substance is way more popular than others and legal doesn't mean that it's any different from a drug. View Quote I'll bet you're a blast at parties...no, not really |
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Happened to me once....never went back. How'd that up charge work out ya fucks? Ill say it again pretty much every place charges more for rocks or neat just because you dont see Jack daniels $3 Rocks$2 You see jack daniels rocks$5 If you order just a shot it will be less unless they pour the same amount for botb which is not proper or the bartender is either an idiot or likes you You are all paying more for rocks pours weather you know it or not. How do you figure that? You expect me to believe they really pour more booze than a neat drink because there's ice in it? Oooook. In my experience they usually pour same or less because the ice makes it look more full. yes. no. it's pretty difficult to short pour a single liquor rocks drink, due to glass size and the inability to cheat it with other ingredients. it can be done (by using wet ice, for example), but it's not convenient. bartenders worship at the altar of convenience. |
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You're taking a chemical that will alter your state of mind. Just because one substance is way more popular than others and legal doesn't mean that it's any different from a drug. View Quote like spicy food? the reason that you do is because spice stimulates endorphin release. it's a chemical that alters your state of mind. same with caffeine, sugar, chocolate. whole grains increase seratonin levels, just like prozac. sleep deprivation also alters your state of mind. do you have moral convictions about that? |
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You're incredibly naive or simply ignorant if you think a bar is giving away alcohol.
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like spicy food? the reason that you do is because spice stimulates endorphin release. it's a chemical that alters your state of mind. same with caffeine, sugar, chocolate. whole grains increase seratonin levels, just like prozac. sleep deprivation also alters your state of mind. do you have moral convictions about that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You're taking a chemical that will alter your state of mind. Just because one substance is way more popular than others and legal doesn't mean that it's any different from a drug. like spicy food? the reason that you do is because spice stimulates endorphin release. it's a chemical that alters your state of mind. same with caffeine, sugar, chocolate. whole grains increase seratonin levels, just like prozac. sleep deprivation also alters your state of mind. do you have moral convictions about that? Exercise really gets me high as a kite. After a good run my mind is beyond altered. Guess I'm basically a meth head. |
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I am considered an apostate because I prefer ice with both bourbon and with a martini.
Why? Magic happens at the point at which substances change form from solid to liquid. Magic. In bourbon, this is expressed as a bloom of sweetness. In a martini, this is expressed as a deepening of the floral notes from the aromatics in the gin. It's like that magic that happens when you put from-the-fridge-cold butter on a slice of bread and then dollop on a spoon of hot stew and take a bite. Flavors explode as the hot stew melts the butter in your mouth. Magic. I don't give a fuck if everyone else in the whirled thinks I'm looney for noticing this. It is manifestly there and it is worth experiencing. YMMV and all that. |
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I am considered an apostate because I prefer ice with both bourbon and with a martini. Why? Magic happens at the point at which substances change form from solid to liquid. Magic. In bourbon, this is expressed as a bloom of sweetness. In a martini, this is expressed as a deepening of the floral notes from the aromatics in the gin. It's like that magic that happens when you put from-the-fridge-cold butter on a slice of bread and then dollop on a spoon of hot stew and take a bite. Flavors explode as the hot stew melts the butter in your mouth. Magic. I don't give a fuck if everyone else in the whirled thinks I'm looney for noticing this. It is manifestly there and it is worth experiencing. YMMV and all that. View Quote The whole whirled, or just the more advanced parts of the whirled? |
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How do you figure that? You expect me to believe they really pour more booze than a neat drink because there's ice in it? Oooook. In my experience they usually pour same or less because the ice makes it look more full. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Happened to me once....never went back. How'd that up charge work out ya fucks? Ill say it again pretty much every place charges more for rocks or neat just because you dont see Jack daniels $3 Rocks$2 You see jack daniels rocks$5 If you order just a shot it will be less unless they pour the same amount for botb which is not proper or the bartender is either an idiot or likes you You are all paying more for rocks pours weather you know it or not. How do you figure that? You expect me to believe they really pour more booze than a neat drink because there's ice in it? Oooook. In my experience they usually pour same or less because the ice makes it look more full. a neat pour is usually the same as a rocks pour it is also an upcharge over a shot |
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Quoted: I am considered an apostate because I prefer ice with both bourbon and with a martini. Why? Magic happens at the point at which substances change form from solid to liquid. Magic. In bourbon, this is expressed as a bloom of sweetness. In a martini, this is expressed as a deepening of the floral notes from the aromatics in the gin. It's like that magic that happens when you put from-the-fridge-cold butter on a slice of bread and then dollop on a spoon of hot stew and take a bite. Flavors explode as the hot stew melts the butter in your mouth. Magic. I don't give a fuck if everyone else in the whirled thinks I'm looney for noticing this. It is manifestly there and it is worth experiencing. YMMV and all that. View Quote A few drops of water will open up the whiskey (or whisky) better than an ice cube, much less a pile of ice cubes. The lower temperature suppresses the flavor. Similarly, a martini is mixed with ice then the drink is strained from the ice. That small amount of water opens up the flavors of the gin plenty, and keeps the drink from becoming so cold that the flavors are suppressed. |
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Quoted: like spicy food? the reason that you do is because spice stimulates endorphin release. it's a chemical that alters your state of mind. same with caffeine, sugar, chocolate. whole grains increase seratonin levels, just like prozac. sleep deprivation also alters your state of mind. do you have moral convictions about that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You're taking a chemical that will alter your state of mind. Just because one substance is way more popular than others and legal doesn't mean that it's any different from a drug. like spicy food? the reason that you do is because spice stimulates endorphin release. it's a chemical that alters your state of mind. same with caffeine, sugar, chocolate. whole grains increase seratonin levels, just like prozac. sleep deprivation also alters your state of mind. do you have moral convictions about that? I love caffeine. Love the way it makes me feel. I just don't pretend it's not a chemical. Not all chemicals affect your brain the same way or as drastically. That's why I can drink caffeine and drive a car legally. |
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