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Posted: 5/24/2015 8:35:15 AM EDT
It's easy to see how Nazis could wander around France virtually unopposed. The French can't even control their pick-pockets.
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2015/05/22/eiffel-tower-closed-workers-are-angry-about-rising-problems-with-aggressive/?intcmp=HPBucket |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 8:39:08 AM EDT
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Roma.
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Posted: 5/24/2015 8:41:13 AM EDT
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Yeah, can't imagine who might be doing that.
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Posted: 5/24/2015 8:43:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/24/2015 8:49:22 AM EDT
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Roma. This X 1000. I was there last month and the tourist spots are crawling with Romas (Gypsies) trying to scam you. We never had any issues with pickpockets but saw tourists from Asia getting swarmed. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 8:55:49 AM EDT
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Geez... I'm taking the SO to Paris in a couple weeks.
What round for pickpockets and gypsies you ask? Well, since it's France, I guess attitude and awareness will have to suffice. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:01:42 AM EDT
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(1) Tourist sees sign warning of pickpockets
(2) Tourist checks where they hid their money and valuables, to make sure they're secure (3) Pickpocket, who put up the warning sign, knows where to find valuables |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:05:59 AM EDT
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When I was in Paris in October 14' I had absolutely no issues with pickpockets, gypsies, etc...The only minor annoyance I had were the Somali's or whatever the hell they were "selling" those trinkets by the Eiffel Tower. Simply told them to step off and they did. If you keep your distance from people and watch your surroundings, you will have no issues.
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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:13:07 AM EDT
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Roma. They add almost nothing but crime to a society. Parents pimp out their teenage daughters. It's sickening. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:16:56 AM EDT
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I got "swarmed" on the crowded Athens metro in 1999. They got $7,600. It was Albanians, not Roma. These guiys were so skilled, I hardly realized what was happening until it was too late. Never let your guard down, and always keep a personal distance. Don't go to places where you can't maintain this distance. These were hard lessons learned, for me.
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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:18:01 AM EDT
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Why the fuck would anybody go to France?
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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:19:03 AM EDT
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I blame mimes.
Any thing bad in France, it is the damn mimes. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:21:02 AM EDT
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Why the fuck would anybody go to France? I'm in France now. It's nice. Fuck the Roma. ( not seen any or been robbed) |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:21:39 AM EDT
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It's easy to see how Nazis could wander around France virtually unopposed. The French can't even control their pick-pockets.
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2015/05/22/eiffel-tower-closed-workers-are-angry-about-rising-problems-with-aggressive/?intcmp=HPBucket The same stuff is going on in Germany too. It's going on all over Europe. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:24:02 AM EDT
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Quoted: It's easy to see how Nazis could wander around France virtually unopposed. The French can't even control their pick-pockets. http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2015/05/22/eiffel-tower-closed-workers-are-angry-about-rising-problems-with-aggressive/?intcmp=HPBucket Dunno why the French get a bad rap. They are out oldest allies and helped this place get up and running. They spent more people than we have in both the world wars; heck, in WW1, alone they lost more people than the US has in all of time. They also do a hell of a lot better job at World Police than we do. We need to pack the whole "France Sucks (and I've never been out of the US)" crowd onto a jet so they can at least know what the fuck their talking about. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:24:04 AM EDT
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Fanny pack FTW.
or Skinny Jeans? |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:24:33 AM EDT
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I'm in France now. It's nice. Fuck the Roma. ( not seen any or been robbed) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why the fuck would anybody go to France? I'm in France now. It's nice. Fuck the Roma. ( not seen any or been robbed) Well, for you isn't it like a two hour trip?  I might go then.
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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:25:49 AM EDT
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When I was there a couple of years back, a Roma female tried working the "found a gold ring" scam on a member of the group.
She ended up having to come back and ask for the ring back.  |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:27:03 AM EDT
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4 hours then 30 minutes on the Chunnel :) driving from oop North
But the other half is doing her 5 hour stint driving and I'm surfing from the passenger seat. Driven from southern Spain. I love the internets |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 12:29:00 PM EDT
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What round for pickpockets and gypsies you ask? Well, since it's France, I guess attitude and awareness will have to suffice. If you avoid bathing and tell yer woman not to shave her armpits, they won't be able to distinguish you from the locals |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 12:38:57 PM EDT
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Roma. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 12:40:16 PM EDT
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This X 1000. I was there last month and the tourist spots are crawling with Romas (Gypsies) trying to scam you. We never had any issues with pickpockets but saw tourists from Asia getting swarmed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Roma. This X 1000. I was there last month and the tourist spots are crawling with Romas (Gypsies) trying to scam you. We never had any issues with pickpockets but saw tourists from Asia getting swarmed. In Europe I have never heard them as Romas, did not even hear the term until a year ago. But you can spot Gypsies like a sore thumb, the clothing they wear in Europe along with the ones that play the violin but sound horrible. When I was in Poland one guy paid (some pocket change) a violin playing Gypsy to stop playing and go away. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 12:40:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why the fuck would anybody go to France?  |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 12:40:43 PM EDT
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Many of the pickpockets when I was there recently were Africans of every stripe.
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Posted: 5/24/2015 12:43:25 PM EDT
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Was in Paris a month ago... Got swarmed by gypsies right when I got outta the train station You gotta just pay attention to your surroundings n you won't get robbed.
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Posted: 5/24/2015 12:51:37 PM EDT
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Single people are less likely targeted by pickpockets. Now families with small children are ripe targets. The parents who are victimized are often distracted by their own children.
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Posted: 5/24/2015 12:57:21 PM EDT
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The Gypsies (Roma) live by their own code, and don't consider themselves part of any European society (even though they've been there for a thousand years). Although some countries have tried, they haven't had any luck getting them to assimilate.
I personally don't feel threatened by Roma, since they're so easy to spot. You simply keep your distance from them, and don't buy into their many scams. I do feel threatened by Albanian and other Eastern European mafias. Those are the most vicious criminals in Europe. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 1:00:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do feel threatened by Albanian and other Eastern European mafias. Those are the most vicious criminals in Europe. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 1:08:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: (1) Tourist sees sign warning of pickpockets (2) Tourist checks where they hid their money and valuables, to make sure they're secure (3) Pickpocket, who put up the warning sign, knows where to find valuables Kansas City Shuffle: "The con artist will attempt to misdirect the mark in a way that leaves him with the impression that he has figured out the game and has the knowledge necessary to outsmart the con artist, but by attempting to retaliate, the mark unwittingly performs an action that helps the con artist to further the scheme." |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 1:11:02 PM EDT
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Single people are less likely targeted by pickpockets. Now families with small children are ripe targets. The parents who are victimized are often distracted by their own children. This is very true. When traveling in a group, you're only as strong as the weakest link in the group. I've had requests to act as a "tour guide" for elderly friends. The last thing I want to do is babysit for people who don't know where they are and are unable to fend for themselves. I feel much safer when I'm by myself, since I can concentrate on "situational awareness." When I was "swarmed," it was partly due to being distracted by my own family, who were with me. You can also move much faster when you're by yourself. It's a big myth that there's "strength in numbers." |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 1:13:57 PM EDT
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I blame mimes. Any thing bad in France, it is the damn mimes. This is the only answer, creepy striped fuckers |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 1:15:11 PM EDT
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They add almost nothing but crime to a society. Parents pimp out their teenage daughters. It's sickening. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Roma. They add almost nothing but crime to a society. Parents pimp out their teenage daughters. It's sickening. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Sooooo, where is this at? 
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Posted: 5/24/2015 1:15:27 PM EDT
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That would be a great bait operation.
Undercover LEO follows what looks like a typical American tourist distracted on his cell phone. As soon as scumbag yanks the wallet, tase the fuck out of him. 
After word gets around 50 pickpockets got tased and arrested on felony charges, they might think twice. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 1:19:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dunno why the French get a bad rap. They are out oldest allies and helped this place get up and running. They spent more people than we have in both the world wars; heck, in WW1, alone they lost more people than the US has in all of time. They also do a hell of a lot better job at World Police than we do. We need to pack the whole "France Sucks (and I've never been out of the US)" crowd onto a jet so they can at least know what the fuck their talking about. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's easy to see how Nazis could wander around France virtually unopposed. The French can't even control their pick-pockets. http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2015/05/22/eiffel-tower-closed-workers-are-angry-about-rising-problems-with-aggressive/?intcmp=HPBucket Dunno why the French get a bad rap. They are out oldest allies and helped this place get up and running. They spent more people than we have in both the world wars; heck, in WW1, alone they lost more people than the US has in all of time. They also do a hell of a lot better job at World Police than we do. We need to pack the whole "France Sucks (and I've never been out of the US)" crowd onto a jet so they can at least know what the fuck their talking about. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 1:23:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:...When I was in Poland one guy paid (some pocket change) a violin playing Gypsy to stop playing and go away. ...don't know where some folks get the idea that they play well for cash. They do play well, but only when they're alone or among each other. I had a soldier who was a disowned roma, he old me about how he'd rob tourists. His older cousins would wrap up tourists with sheets of cardboard and him and the smaller kids would strip valuables. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 1:28:40 PM EDT
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I might add that a lot of the pickpocket activity is not random. Members of the pickpocket gang will stake out banks and ATM's, making note of people who withdraw sums of money. They then pass the information on to other members of the gang (by cell phone), and then those members follow the victims until they reach an opportune spot for the attack (jam-packed public transportation, for example). I'm pretty sure that that's precisely what happened to me. In my case, they had tremendous patience and perseverance, because I covered half of Athens (on foot) between my visit to the bank and the point at which I was attacked. (And, just to be clear, it's not an obvious attack. It's a very skillful and subtle thing. These are professionals. In a way, I respect them for that.)
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Posted: 5/24/2015 1:32:21 PM EDT
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Undercover LEO follows what looks like a typical American tourist distracted on his cell phone. Except that in some countries, the police are in on the deal. The pickpockets pay them a percentage to look the other way. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 1:35:57 PM EDT
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I blame mimes.
Any thing bad in France, it is the damn mimes. There's been a worldwide epidemic of robbers disguising themselves in clown outfits. Seriously. When I see a clown on the street, it frightens me. I get as far away from him as I can. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 2:00:52 PM EDT
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I don't foresee any European travel in my near future. If I did, I'd carry a dummy wallet with capsaicin-coated razor blades inside, and keep my real wallet in a zipped or buttoned pocket inside my jacket.
This is also a good excuse to buy some 5.11 pants with zippered pockets. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 2:13:24 PM EDT
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Not sure why the police don't keep harassing them, making them go elsewhere.
In a lot of cities across the US, police constantly run away homeless as panhandling is against the law. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 2:17:55 PM EDT
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If I did, I'd carry a dummy wallet with capsaicin-coated razor blades inside, and keep my real wallet in a zipped or buttoned pocket inside my jacket. No good. I had my money in zippered jacket pockets when I was robbed. In fact, that contributed to the incident because I had a false sense of confidence. You need to carry your money, passport, etc., in a security pouch under all your clothes. Don't carry a wallet at all. Carry only enough money for your immediate daily needs (and a credit card or two) loose in your front pockets. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 2:17:58 PM EDT
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Dunno why the French get a bad rap. They are out oldest allies and helped this place get up and running. They spent more people than we have in both the world wars; heck, in WW1, alone they lost more people than the US has in all of time. They also do a hell of a lot better job at World Police than we do. We need to pack the whole "France Sucks (and I've never been out of the US)" crowd onto a jet so they can at least know what the fuck their talking about. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's easy to see how Nazis could wander around France virtually unopposed. The French can't even control their pick-pockets.
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2015/05/22/eiffel-tower-closed-workers-are-angry-about-rising-problems-with-aggressive/?intcmp=HPBucket Dunno why the French get a bad rap. They are out oldest allies and helped this place get up and running. They spent more people than we have in both the world wars; heck, in WW1, alone they lost more people than the US has in all of time. They also do a hell of a lot better job at World Police than we do. We need to pack the whole "France Sucks (and I've never been out of the US)" crowd onto a jet so they can at least know what the fuck their talking about. It was a joke, dammit! |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 2:19:43 PM EDT
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The same stuff is going on in Germany too. It's going on all over Europe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's easy to see how Nazis could wander around France virtually unopposed. The French can't even control their pick-pockets.
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2015/05/22/eiffel-tower-closed-workers-are-angry-about-rising-problems-with-aggressive/?intcmp=HPBucket The same stuff is going on in Germany too. It's going on all over Europe. Not here! 
Economically, Liechtenstein has the highest gross domestic product per person in the world when adjusted by purchasing power parity. It is also the 2nd richest (by measure of GDP per capita) country in the world, after Qatar, and has one of the lowest unemployment rates at 1.5%. No riffraff allowed.
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Posted: 5/24/2015 2:25:28 PM EDT
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I've never had a problem with pickpockets, street thugs trying to roll me for my wallet, yes, but pickpockets, no.
Street thug problem was solved by the addition of one or two ice axes to my pack. It's common to see ices axes on packs in France, even in July - no one thinks twice about it. - except thugs. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 2:29:08 PM EDT
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Not sure why the police don't keep harassing them, making them go elsewhere. In a lot of cities across the US, police constantly run away homeless as panhandling is against the law. Where else are they going to go? The EU makes the French take the Roma in. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 2:31:44 PM EDT
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We were there a few years back on our honeymoon. Right when we got off the train from the UK into Paris, a (smoking hot) girl stopped us outside of the train station and pulled the "deaf charity" stunt, talking in a retarded voice and handing us a little leaflet for her "charity" in multiple languages. Same shit got tried with me the last time I was in Paris a few years prior, I told my wife it was BS and to walk away, the girl looked visibly pissed. We stopped to get lunch at a small cafe in the same general area, and not more than a half hour later we saw the girl smoking and casually talking with an eastern European guy and a couple other girls. As we left the cafe my wife waved to her and flipped her off
The goal is to get you to pull out your wallet for the charity.. When that happens someone (probably that guy) comes out of the shadows and bye bye wallet. If they were still hanging out there, the scam was going pretty poorly, because they won't stick around. edit: I had more fun the first time around when I was in Amsterdam and needed to buy a light jacket, so I just went into a department store and bought the first windbreaker-looking jacket I could find. Turned out to be a sort of lookalike copy of a French police man's jacket. A week later I went to France and I was wearing it around Lille (shitty high crime area) and constantly had packs of teenage thugs fleeing when I would walk into their area. Didn't realize what was going on until I saw a couple other cops on foot. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 2:32:00 PM EDT
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Where else are they going to go? The EU makes the French take the Roma in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not sure why the police don't keep harassing them, making them go elsewhere. In a lot of cities across the US, police constantly run away homeless as panhandling is against the law. Where else are they going to go? The EU makes the French take the Roma in. Jail for stealing... Maybe we can help Europe by sending some of our thug criminals over to beat up on them. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 2:34:49 PM EDT
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Why the fuck would anybody go to France? I'll take "Because France is Awesome" for $100, Alex. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 2:36:49 PM EDT
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I might add that a lot of the pickpocket activity is not random. Members of the pickpocket gang will stake out banks and ATM's, making note of people who withdraw sums of money. They then pass the information on to other members of the gang (by cell phone), and then those members follow the victims until they reach an opportune spot for the attack (jam-packed public transportation, for example). I'm pretty sure that that's precisely what happened to me. In my case, they had tremendous patience and perseverance, because I covered half of Athens (on foot) between my visit to the bank and the point at which I was attacked. (And, just to be clear, it's not an obvious attack. It's a very skillful and subtle thing. These are professionals. In a way, I respect them for that.) I'd actually really like to hear the details of how they ran their game on you, if you don't mind. Some day I'll probably betray my principles and go to Europe for a vacation, and I've been warned about the Roma by friends who have been there. Sounds like you were plenty vigilant, and they still got you. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 2:37:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/24/2015 2:39:57 PM EDT
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Except that in some countries, the police are in on the deal. The pickpockets pay them a percentage to look the other way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Undercover LEO follows what looks like a typical American tourist distracted on his cell phone. Except that in some countries, the police are in on the deal. The pickpockets pay them a percentage to look the other way. In Socialist Detroit, police officer rob you. True story, when I was 19 I got pulled over in Detroit. Cop was an old white guy, probably close to 60 years old. Takes my wallet from me as I'm getting my license out, grabs the $90 I had in there, hands my empty wallet back to me and says "You need to keep your ass in the suburbs where you belong, now get outta here." |
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