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Posted: 5/24/2015 8:17:48 AM EDT

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/05/01/why-men-wont-marry.html?intcmp=features

Because there’s nothing in it for them: What exactly does marriage offer men today? "Men know there’s a good chance they’ll lose their friends, their respect, their space, their sex life, their money and — if it all goes wrong — their family,” says Helen Smith, Ph.D., author of "Men on Strike." "They don’t want to enter into a legal contract with someone who could effectively take half their savings, pension and property when the honeymoon period is over.Men aren’t wimping out by staying unmarried or being commitment phobes. They’re being smart.”

Unlike women, men lose all power after they say "I do.” Their masculinity dies, too.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:23:37 AM EDT

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If their masculinity "dies" after they get married, they didn't have any to begin with.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:25:04 AM EDT

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Decent article that has its marits, as far as the court system goes it is heavely stacked against the man.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:25:10 AM EDT

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Q - Why do men marry bitches?

A - Because they don't want to be gay.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:26:58 AM EDT

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How do you turn a Fox into a Elephant?

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:27:50 AM EDT

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Posted: 5/24/2015 8:27:52 AM EDT

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I have been divorced for 8 years and will never get married again.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:28:46 AM EDT

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That's funny. I dont know of any guy that hasn't happen to.

At least 90% of the guys I know have gone down that road.

It is only her friends that count.

Unless your friend is cute, rich or a hunk, in her eyes he is a loser. Ever notice that when the women divorces you it is because of that friend?

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:29:52 AM EDT

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She's married to Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit fame.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:32:27 AM EDT

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Yep, read that before; certainly makes excellent sense to me.

Never been married, never intend to.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:36:53 AM EDT

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The trick to even things out is to stay married long enough that nobody else will want them. That means when you are in your fifties or sixties the man gets the upper hand. Of course the best years of your life were already wasted.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:38:03 AM EDT

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In before a female Arfcommer calls you guys pussies, basement dwellers, etc.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:38:23 AM EDT

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I got married last night and NOW you show me this article? Nice timing Rob.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:39:57 AM EDT

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Oh yeah, it's Sunday.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:40:41 AM EDT

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Seriously. Back to the article.

Suzanne Venker is pointing out the truth on how men in this country are being treated by the so-called norm from the left and the aiding media. We have all commented on the commercials that portrays men as being dumb and stupid while the woman is always smarter.

The article is true in this case. She is standing up for the abuse, and disrespect to men by degrading them.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:43:46 AM EDT

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If you're defining your masculinity upon marital status, you got some issues to begin with, mainly the large amounts of estrogen flowing through your manboobs and mangina.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:43:47 AM EDT

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I have no plans to leave Mrs_pony anytime soon, but if anything happened between us or if she were to die before I do, I will NEVAR get married again.

I've sown my seed and raised my son. I'm too old to want to start any more. I have no desire to raise anyone else's kid(s) for them. I've got all I need and I won't get weaseled into giving half my hard earned money or stuff away. And I won't diminish my son's inheritance, should there be anything left of my "empire" when I pass.

That pretty much narrows the field to a point where I could only date wimmenz with no kids who are wealthier than me.

Marriage has evolved into a game where men are screwed.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:44:00 AM EDT

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Yep.

If we don't dare continue the circle of submission, we are xxxx.

I'd get married again. With an extensive pre-nup.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:45:20 AM EDT

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Half?????

How about 95%.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:47:06 AM EDT

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By the time you are in your 50-60's you've got some stuff. She will get it all.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:48:18 AM EDT

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Probably a little truth to that.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:48:20 AM EDT

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I'm 40 and refuse to marry. Period. I've had tons of long term relationships but roughly about 18 months in; we have "the talk". Where I tell them that's "its just not my bag baby".

Then I go back to dating.

Call me self centered. Immature. Do you think I care. Well -- no. No I don't. At the end of the day I make plenty of money, own my own home, have 2 cars; one usually a convertible sports car. I have a family with tons of nieces and nephews that keep me busy and lead a full life.

I date a LOT. I mean A lot. I normally date about 10 years younger but last year I dated hot 26 year old. As a Master Dater I literally pic up the phone right now and within the hour have one of a dozen girls at my place. Seriously.

So why oh why would I marry.

Maybe i'll find "the one" someday but frankly, I don't care if I don't.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:55:07 AM EDT

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The wife and I were waiting for a minivan driver to let his lard-ass wife out in front of the store yesterday, and I noticed he had an elephant silhouette on his back window. I said, "Look, dear, he love her so much that he's got her picture on the back window."

She didn't see the humor in it.

Posted: 5/24/2015 8:57:56 AM EDT

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Get a Prenump. That will let you know what her real intentions are.

It's the only way to get on level ground with women through the eyes of the court.

Also, choose wisely, most young women today are gold diggin' hookers because they know the system is stacked heavily in their favor.

I'm married btw.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:00:14 AM EDT

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No kidding. It really is. So it pays to choose wisely in the first place, assuming you are going to choose at all.

Many men don't choose wisely, though. They date around until they decide they're ready to settle down, and then, rather than seeking out the best possible candidate for happily ever after, they just put a ring on the one they're with at the time and call it good. Bad strategy for mate selection if you want a happy, healthy marriage.

And if you decide marriage isn't for you, that's fine. Don't blame anyone or act hateful, resentful, or entitled. Just own your choice and go on about your life.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:03:37 AM EDT

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I'm 40 and refuse to marry. Period. I've had tons of long term relationships but roughly about 18 months in; we have "the talk". Where I tell them that's "its just not my bag baby".

Then I go back to dating.

Call me self centered. Immature. Do you think I care. Well -- no. No I don't. At the end of the day I make plenty of money, own my own home, have 2 cars; one usually a convertible sports car. I have a family with tons of nieces and nephews that keep me busy and lead a full life.

I date a LOT. I mean A lot. I normally date about 10 years younger but last year I dated hot 26 year old. As a Master Dater I literally pic up the phone right now and within the hour have one of a dozen girls at my place. Seriously.

So why oh why would I marry.

Maybe i'll find "the one" someday but frankly, I don't care if I don't.

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I should use that for my Dear Penthouse letter but I don't think they'll publish that fantasy a second time.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:03:54 AM EDT

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Probably just barely. They seem to stay on high alert just waiting to pounce on any thread that makes any generalization about women.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:05:23 AM EDT

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Seriously. Back to the article.

Suzanne Venker is pointing out the truth on how men in this country are being treated by the so-called norm from the left and the aiding media. We have all commented on the commercials that portrays men as being dumb and stupid while the woman is always smarter.

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While I agree that this portrayal sucks, I have also heard men boast of deliberately fucking up simple household chores (laundry, folding clothes, dishes, ironing, etc) simply so their wife never asks them to do that stuff again. If men act stupid about simple things, then they can hardly complain when they are portrayed as stupid.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:06:58 AM EDT

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I could have stayed unmarried with the life I led with my then-girlfriend and things would have been fine. Instead, I got married and it ultimately cost me thousands of dollars and my excellent credit.

Makes sense.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:07:39 AM EDT

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Congrats!! Wish I could have been there. I am sure all of you had a great time.

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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:07:50 AM EDT

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There's no shortage of articles on the 'net that claim men who aren't settling down are Peter Pan, eternal teens who shirk responsibility, play video games and watch porn instead of providing for women. I'm glad to see some people finally seeing the truth: the legal and social environment now is hostile to men who marry, so they're just not playing that game.

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I'm 40 and refuse to marry. Period. I've had tons of long term relationships but roughly about 18 months in; we have "the talk". Where I tell them that's "its just not my bag baby".

Then I go back to dating.
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Stay the course. I'm 46 and just had "the talk" with my current flame of 2 years. I said that I got burned once. Never again. What's the worst thing that could happen? She'll leave me and I'll be stuck here with all my money, toys, a Man House (not a Man Cave) and the next girl?

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:08:27 AM EDT

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No kidding. It really is. So it pays to choose wisely in the first place, assuming you are going to choose at all.

Many men don't choose wisely, though. They date around until they decide they're ready to settle down, and then, rather than seeking out the best possible candidate for happily ever after, they just put a ring on the one they're with at the time and call it good. Bad strategy for mate selection if you want a bappy, healthy marriage.

And if you decide marriage isn't for you, that's fine. Don't blame anyone or act hateful, resentful, or entitled. Just own your choice and go on about your life.

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Decent article that has its marits, as far as the court system goes it is heavely stacked against the man.

No kidding. It really is. So it pays to choose wisely in the first place, assuming you are going to choose at all.

Many men don't choose wisely, though. They date around until they decide they're ready to settle down, and then, rather than seeking out the best possible candidate for happily ever after, they just put a ring on the one they're with at the time and call it good. Bad strategy for mate selection if you want a bappy, healthy marriage.

And if you decide marriage isn't for you, that's fine. Don't blame anyone or act hateful, resentful, or entitled. Just own your choice and go on about your life.

The hate/resentment/whatever is a product of feeling like we've been lied to. Combine that with societal pressure, feminism, and all sorts of other things that are steeply slanted against males.....and you get all of those things.

This may not be your mode of operation, but you aren't the only female out there. The gold-diggers who think that man exist to make them happy are in the majority. The feminists who think that men exist only to build wealth for them, the ones that refuse to give up their legal advantages via pre-nup or fighting against them politically....are in the majority.

Then when we won't get married, we get called even more names.

It's tiresome. So yea, we are bitter, hateful, and annoyed. We have every right to be.

If my current relationship tanks, which I don't expect it to.....I'm done with women in any serious way. Until the respect is back, they can piss off.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:08:34 AM EDT

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Idiot.

(just kidding.....thought I would keep it consistent this weekend and say that to you two days in a row. And good morning to you, sir!)

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:09:10 AM EDT

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If you got married last night, you've got better things to do than be on ARF.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:10:38 AM EDT

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There's no shortage of articles on the 'net that claim men who aren't settling down are Peter Pan, eternal teens who shirk responsibility, play video games and watch porn instead of providing for women. I'm glad to see some people finally seeing the truth: the legal and social environment now is hostile to men who marry, so they're just not playing that game.

Stay the course. I'm 46 and just had "the talk" with my current flame of 2 years. I said that I got burned once. Never again. What's the worst thing that could happen? She'll leave me and I'll be stuck here with all my money, toys, a Man House (not a Man Cave) and the next girl?

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There's no shortage of articles on the 'net that claim men who aren't settling down are Peter Pan, eternal teens who shirk responsibility, play video games and watch porn instead of providing for women. I'm glad to see some people finally seeing the truth: the legal and social environment now is hostile to men who marry, so they're just not playing that game.

I'm 40 and refuse to marry. Period. I've had tons of long term relationships but roughly about 18 months in; we have "the talk". Where I tell them that's "its just not my bag baby".

Then I go back to dating.
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Stay the course. I'm 46 and just had "the talk" with my current flame of 2 years. I said that I got burned once. Never again. What's the worst thing that could happen? She'll leave me and I'll be stuck here with all my money, toys, a Man House (not a Man Cave) and the next girl?

Here's the thing.

I don't exist to provide for women. That is not my role. Feminists successfully made women equals, and more than equal in some situations. They can take care of themselves. For me to take care of them is to enforce the patriarchy.

Therefore, it is not men's responsibility to take care of women. So why would we marry that? No thank you.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:11:08 AM EDT

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That works for some men, and has some point in the age when marriage is considered temporary .

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:12:29 AM EDT

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Yeah, I don't get this stuff. How about this; don't settle for the first gal that beds you down, and don't become her doormat. My first marriage was 6 years of intermittent misery because I did exactly that. I don't know about you guys, but I'm not living my life pissed off all the time. Kicked that bitch to the curb and moved on, and haven't looked back. I think there are a significant amount of men with self esteem/self confidence problems that allow themselves to be drawn into bad marriages, and stay in them for fear of how hard it will be in the aftermath to put your life back together. Having a woman demean you and treat you like shit is no way to live your life.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:13:22 AM EDT

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Meh, I'd get married tomorrow .

Maybe I would think different if I were .........more popular shall we say.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:15:10 AM EDT

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Better to be alone than with someone who isn't willing to be a team member rather than a FSA leech.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:17:41 AM EDT

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I am more than just this...

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:18:45 AM EDT

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Congrats!! Wish I could have been there. I am sure all of you had a great time.

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We did, thanks!

You're wife is always entertaining

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:19:37 AM EDT

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No kidding. It really is. So it pays to choose wisely in the first place, assuming you are going to choose at all.

Many men don't choose wisely, though. They date around until they decide they're ready to settle down, and then, rather than seeking out the best possible candidate for happily ever after, they just put a ring on the one they're with at the time and call it good. Bad strategy for mate selection if you want a happy, healthy marriage.

And if you decide marriage isn't for you, that's fine. Don't blame anyone or act hateful, resentful, or entitled. Just own your choice and go on about your life.

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Decent article that has its marits, as far as the court system goes it is heavely stacked against the man.

No kidding. It really is. So it pays to choose wisely in the first place, assuming you are going to choose at all.

Many men don't choose wisely, though. They date around until they decide they're ready to settle down, and then, rather than seeking out the best possible candidate for happily ever after, they just put a ring on the one they're with at the time and call it good. Bad strategy for mate selection if you want a happy, healthy marriage.

And if you decide marriage isn't for you, that's fine. Don't blame anyone or act hateful, resentful, or entitled. Just own your choice and go on about your life.

"Choosing wisely" is no guarantee that a man won't get screwed by some woman in divorce court someday. His ability to discern the future is no match for the legal system.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:22:56 AM EDT

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Um.....condolences?

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:23:18 AM EDT

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Choose wisely using proper criteria, and you will have a happy, peaceful home full of children and joy that will last a lifetime. Material stuff turns to junk over time. Family is all that ultimately matters in this world. The responses in this thread to the contrary are unbelievably sad and cynical. I guess that is where we are as a society.

I'm apparently the rare, happy exception. My wife is pregnant with our fifth child, and third boy. I couldn't be happier about it.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:24:29 AM EDT

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Meh, I'd get married tomorrow .

Maybe I would think different if I were .........more popular shall we say.

Better to be alone than with someone who isn't willing to be a team member rather than a FSA leech.

Granted, but I'm talking more about the idea of never getting married no matter the quality of the woman.

I'd like to think in my 48 years on this earth, I could choose better this time

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:28:22 AM EDT

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Choose wisely using proper criteria, and you will have a happy, peaceful home full of children and joy that will last a lifetime. Material stuff turns to junk over time. Family is all that ultimately matters in this world. The responses in this thread to the contrary are unbelievably sad and cynical. I guess that is where we are as a society.

I'm apparently the rare, happy exception. My wife is pregnant with our fifth child, and third boy. I couldn't be happier about it.

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I don't know about "rare, happy exception", but our society does not value those things as it once did. Family is not all that matters, and not even the most important thing for many people. If it did, the marriage rate, the birthrate, and the divorce rate would not be where they are.

I have several friends who chose wisely. Their spouses had all of the right character traits and family backgrounds. They're divorced now.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:28:29 AM EDT

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The wife and I were waiting for a minivan driver to let his lard-ass wife out in front of the store yesterday, and I noticed he had an elephant silhouette on his back window. I said, "Look, dear, he love her so much that he's got her picture on the back window."

She didn't see the humor in it.

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How do you turn a Fox into a Elephant?

Put a ring on it

The wife and I were waiting for a minivan driver to let his lard-ass wife out in front of the store yesterday, and I noticed he had an elephant silhouette on his back window. I said, "Look, dear, he love her so much that he's got her picture on the back window."

She didn't see the humor in it.

Posted: 5/24/2015 9:28:56 AM EDT

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The hate/resentment/whatever is a product of feeling like we've been lied to. Combine that with societal pressure, feminism, and all sorts of other things that are steeply slanted against males.....and you get all of those things.

This may not be your mode of operation, but you aren't the only female out there. The gold-diggers who think that man exist to make them happy are in the majority. The feminists who think that men exist only to build wealth for them, the ones that refuse to give up their legal advantages via pre-nup or fighting against them politically....are in the majority.

Then when we won't get married, we get called even more names.

It's tiresome. So yea, we are bitter, hateful, and annoyed. We have every right to be.

If my current relationship tanks, which I don't expect it to.....I'm done with women in any serious way. Until the respect is back, they can piss off.

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Decent article that has its marits, as far as the court system goes it is heavely stacked against the man.

No kidding. It really is. So it pays to choose wisely in the first place, assuming you are going to choose at all.

Many men don't choose wisely, though. They date around until they decide they're ready to settle down, and then, rather than seeking out the best possible candidate for happily ever after, they just put a ring on the one they're with at the time and call it good. Bad strategy for mate selection if you want a bappy, healthy marriage.

And if you decide marriage isn't for you, that's fine. Don't blame anyone or act hateful, resentful, or entitled. Just own your choice and go on about your life.

The hate/resentment/whatever is a product of feeling like we've been lied to. Combine that with societal pressure, feminism, and all sorts of other things that are steeply slanted against males.....and you get all of those things.

This may not be your mode of operation, but you aren't the only female out there. The gold-diggers who think that man exist to make them happy are in the majority. The feminists who think that men exist only to build wealth for them, the ones that refuse to give up their legal advantages via pre-nup or fighting against them politically....are in the majority.

Then when we won't get married, we get called even more names.

It's tiresome. So yea, we are bitter, hateful, and annoyed. We have every right to be.

If my current relationship tanks, which I don't expect it to.....I'm done with women in any serious way. Until the respect is back, they can piss off.

Meh. You choose to feel and act that way. Women get lied to so they'll sleep with men. We get called names if we don't put out. We get called names if we do. It's a cold, cruel world out there. You can let it eat at you. You can choose to let it define you. Or you can go be awesome and do awesome things and not care what some random person calls you.

Sometimes men don't even realize that they are sabotaging themselves. Just yesterday, one of the "all women are gold diggers" sorts was saying in another thread that he won't even pay attention to a woman unless her hair was done up, she was wearing a ton of makeup, jewelry, and a short skirt. And that he had seen a couple women that could have been acceptable if he had been able to a take them out shopping. He deliberately chooses high maintenance women, then calls women gold diggers.

Everyone can have something they choose to be bitter about. It's certainly your right to be bitter if you want to be. But in the end, it's still a choice.