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O.k., I'm not sure I understand what is going on here. This is what I think is going on. 1. The Russians wacked that city planner guy in the beginning. Part of their grand plot to replace VV and own that part of California, aided by Judge dickhead's son and Not-Blackwater. 2. When city planner guy was wacked, his place gets tossed for the diamonds? Maybe? Why was city planner tortured if it was just a wack? The diamonds were some loot from the Rodney King riots and crooked cops. Who were those cops? Was it Velcoro's crooked partner? 4. Puta chick's ho friend was killed in that cabin for something. Seems a little extreme for pimp justice. It seems like you have two whole separate plot interweaving, the "land-deal" plot and the "diamond heist" plot. Other than both being connected to city planner guy, it seems like a very un-plausible turn of events. Am I missing something? View Quote 1.Casper bought in with VV money and kept the diamonds set aside for his plot of land. The whack Casper then they have the money, diamonds, and land shares 4. Chick that was put in the shed found out thru the parties what Casper and other people were up to, threatened to go to police of they don't buy her off, they whack her to tighten up loose ends |
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I'm not upset THAT he got shot, but how it happened. Those tunnels seemed to have a ton of exits. How did the guy know he was going to exit right there... Seemed contrived. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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man I am glad he got capped. I'm not upset THAT he got shot, but how it happened. Those tunnels seemed to have a ton of exits. How did the guy know he was going to exit right there... Seemed contrived. Was thinking the same thing. Too many exits. The black guy even said the tunnels run under the entire city, he could of came out anywhere. |
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Was thinking the same thing. Too many exits. The black guy even said the tunnels run under the entire city, he could of came out anywhere. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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man I am glad he got capped. I'm not upset THAT he got shot, but how it happened. Those tunnels seemed to have a ton of exits. How did the guy know he was going to exit right there... Seemed contrived. Was thinking the same thing. Too many exits. The black guy even said the tunnels run under the entire city, he could of came out anywhere. I remembered this quote from a previous article critical of TD season 2: ‘When in doubt, have a man come through the door with a gun in his hand,’ Raymond Chandler advised any aspiring authors who found the plot of their crime novel was floundering. This technique/plot device is the deus ex machina of detective stories. |
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Major points left undone. Sarcasm now
Who stole gay boys bike? Will VV ever have a child? Velcoro win his kid? The mayors daughter,what did she not tell. This show is still crap, say what you want about season 1 having less folks, it was better for it, better scripted, better plot, better everything |
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How did they know about the diamonds? That's the part that is really getting me. Two crimes decades apart. Did the Russians just happen to pick a guy who knew Casper's past? Did the Russians find out about the diamonds? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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1.Casper bought in with VV money and kept the diamonds set aside for his plot of land. The whack Casper then they have the money, diamonds, and land shares When you say "they", do you mean the Russians? At this point, I don't think it was the Russians who offed Caspere. The Vinci PD brass and Mayor knew Caspere had the diamonds because they were in on the original heist. Caspere already bought in with W's cash; they whack Caspere and buy back his shares of the land for pennies on the dollar, and double their money by fencing the diamonds as well. ETA: Stop thinking about the diamonds and the murder as two separate crimes, the heist was the beginning of the whole chain of events, it makes more sense when you think of it that way. |
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Quoted: When you say "they", do you mean the Russians? At this point, I don't think it was the Russians who offed Caspere. The Vinci PD brass and Mayor knew Caspere had the diamonds because they were in on the original heist. Caspere already bought in with W's cash; they whack Caspere and buy back his shares of the land for pennies on the dollar, and double their money by fencing the diamonds as well. View Quote |
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But the Russians seem to be behind everything. They open by playing coy with VV, and have been buying up all his stuff? They've been behind this in some way since the beginning. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When you say "they", do you mean the Russians? At this point, I don't think it was the Russians who offed Caspere. The Vinci PD brass and Mayor knew Caspere had the diamonds because they were in on the original heist. Caspere already bought in with W's cash; they whack Caspere and buy back his shares of the land for pennies on the dollar, and double their money by fencing the diamonds as well. True, but my guess is that they're making the power play on him because they know that he has no capital to fight them off after Caspere left him high and dry with nothing. Even though the land deal is crazy lucrative, the vice business in Vinci is still worth an awful lot (maybe somewhat less after W burned it down to the ground last night ). I admit I'm not sure what the angle with the Russians is though. |
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True, but my guess is that they're making the power play on him because they know that he has no capital to fight them off after Caspere left him high and dry with nothing. Even though the land deal is crazy lucrative, the vice business in Vinci is still worth an awful lot (maybe somewhat less after W burned it down to the ground last night ). I admit I'm not sure what the angle with the Russians is though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When you say "they", do you mean the Russians? At this point, I don't think it was the Russians who offed Caspere. The Vinci PD brass and Mayor knew Caspere had the diamonds because they were in on the original heist. Caspere already bought in with W's cash; they whack Caspere and buy back his shares of the land for pennies on the dollar, and double their money by fencing the diamonds as well. True, but my guess is that they're making the power play on him because they know that he has no capital to fight them off after Caspere left him high and dry with nothing. Even though the land deal is crazy lucrative, the vice business in Vinci is still worth an awful lot (maybe somewhat less after W burned it down to the ground last night ). I admit I'm not sure what the angle with the Russians is though. I think you are correct. In the beginning they were going in with Frank (VV) but decided to think about it some more. Then they learned that Caspere was killed and Frank no longer had the money. I think they then decided to make a move on Frank and his territory. |
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I think you are correct. In the beginning they were going in with Frank (VV) but decided to think about it some more. Then they learned that Caspere was killed and Frank no longer had the money. I think they then decided to make a move on Frank and his territory. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When you say "they", do you mean the Russians? At this point, I don't think it was the Russians who offed Caspere. The Vinci PD brass and Mayor knew Caspere had the diamonds because they were in on the original heist. Caspere already bought in with W's cash; they whack Caspere and buy back his shares of the land for pennies on the dollar, and double their money by fencing the diamonds as well. True, but my guess is that they're making the power play on him because they know that he has no capital to fight them off after Caspere left him high and dry with nothing. Even though the land deal is crazy lucrative, the vice business in Vinci is still worth an awful lot (maybe somewhat less after W burned it down to the ground last night ). I admit I'm not sure what the angle with the Russians is though. I think you are correct. In the beginning they were going in with Frank (VV) but decided to think about it some more. Then they learned that Caspere was killed and Frank no longer had the money. I think they then decided to make a move on Frank and his territory. One thing is for certain, Frank is one bad motherfucker. People that try to go head to head with him do so at their own peril. |
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How did they know about the diamonds? That's the part that is really getting me. Two crimes decades apart. Did the Russians just happen to pick a guy who knew Casper's past? Did the Russians find out about the diamonds? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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1.Casper bought in with VV money and kept the diamonds set aside for his plot of land. The whack Casper then they have the money, diamonds, and land shares Obviously Casper was at the parties with all the high profile people ie- mayor on Vinci, the police chief, and the AG. Casper starts bragging to girls and other people about the diamonds and starts showing off. VV buys in to the tune of 2 million and tries to bring the Russians in with him so he can own more of the land. The Russians find out about Caspers diamonds, VV unsecured money, and get into the "catalyst corp". Whack Casper, steal VVs money, and start hunting for the diamonds. That's why the accountant at the catalyst corp wants that harddrove so bad, it has all the info on the deals befor Casper was killed. My opinion. |
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Quoted: Obviously Casper was at the parties with all the high profile people ie- mayor on Vinci, the police chief, and the AG. Casper starts bragging to girls and other people about the diamonds and starts showing off. VV buys in to the tune of 2 million and tries to bring the Russians in with him so he can own more of the land. The Russians find out about Caspers diamonds, VV unsecured money, and get into the "catalyst corp". Whack Casper, steal VVs money, and start hunting for the diamonds. That's why the accountant at the catalyst corp wants that harddrove so bad, it has all the info on the deals befor Casper was killed. My opinion. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 1.Casper bought in with VV money and kept the diamonds set aside for his plot of land. The whack Casper then they have the money, diamonds, and land shares Obviously Casper was at the parties with all the high profile people ie- mayor on Vinci, the police chief, and the AG. Casper starts bragging to girls and other people about the diamonds and starts showing off. VV buys in to the tune of 2 million and tries to bring the Russians in with him so he can own more of the land. The Russians find out about Caspers diamonds, VV unsecured money, and get into the "catalyst corp". Whack Casper, steal VVs money, and start hunting for the diamonds. That's why the accountant at the catalyst corp wants that harddrove so bad, it has all the info on the deals befor Casper was killed. My opinion. |
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Apparently the hard drive is of no concern that they fail to even worry about it in the 2nd to last episode
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Apparently the hard drive is of no concern that they fail to even worry about it in the 2nd to last episode View Quote I'm sure it'll be something like Evil Skinny Lt is getting ready to shoot RM and CF will pop in from nowhere and kill him and RM will be all like 'OH MY HOW DID YOU KNOW!' and CF will be all 'I WATCHES TEH HARD DRIVE', which will show sorts of incriminating shit. |
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There's only 2 episodes left???? That would really suck I re watched the 1st season first 3 episodes, it's scary how good that season was View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Apparently the hard drive is of no concern that they fail to even worry about it in the 2nd to last episode There's only 2 episodes left???? That would really suck I re watched the 1st season first 3 episodes, it's scary how good that season was No, just one episode left now. |
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At this point, my wife and I are really only pulling for VV's character. Everyone else can FOAD.
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Apparently the hard drive is of no concern that they fail to even worry about it in the 2nd to last episode There's only 2 episodes left???? That would really suck I re watched the 1st season first 3 episodes, it's scary how good that season was No, just one episode left now. One and a half? 90 minute finale. |
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I like this season fine
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Apparently the hard drive is of no concern that they fail to even worry about it in the 2nd to last episode There's only 2 episodes left???? That would really suck I re watched the 1st season first 3 episodes, it's scary how good that season was Any one know if they plan on running the first season? Started watching in season 2 |
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So the rapist was Frank's red headed #2 guy that he shot in his office. He's the one that Frank got the 'meth head' info from to give Velcoro. And he is was a ginger.
ETA - anyone see Frank's shopping list. M-4 Automatic Rifles, Benelli M-4 Shotguns, Remington 870 Shotguns. |
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I just finished season 1 and thought it was very good. Looks like I should skip season 2?
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So the rapist was Frank's red headed #2 guy that he shot in his office. He's the one that Frank got the 'meth head' info from to give Velcoro. And he is was a ginger. ETA - anyone see Frank's shopping list. M-4 Automatic Rifles, Benelli M-4 Shotguns, Remington 870 Shotguns. http://i.imgur.com/vXuIhQA.png I'm thinking Ani, Ray, Frank and Nails are going to try and take down the money drop. If nothing else we'll get a great action sequence out of this. The biggest problem is that there have been 6 different directors. Last season had one really talented dude directing all the episodes and the attention to detail was far superior. |
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My thoughts exactly unless they tie that up by saying the leader who was hit in the head called him to let him know where he would likely come out. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wonder if the detective that just killed gay boy could possibly be the brother that hid under the cabinets during their Parents murder. Sister is helping bring this all down from the inside. I think it's a plot device out of a bad 1970's detective show to have the villain waiting in hiding at just the right exit from a place that had a bazillionty exits. My thoughts exactly unless they tie that up by saying the leader who was hit in the head called him to let him know where he would likely come out. Or they had all of the likely exists covered. Their being a driver parked close by tells me their is more people in play. |
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The gay detective has skills and knows how to survive a gunfight, that's for sure. But he shouldn't have been in a gunfight in the first place. The decision to go into the tunnels was asinine from the get-go. Also, when he disarmed the high-ranking black cop and had a gun at his head, he made the other four mercs put down their guns. Then he let the black cop go and ran away, which allowed the mercs to pick their guns back up and chase him. Why not tell them to drop their guns, march them 25 feet away, shoot the black cop in the face, and then shoot the four mercs as quickly as possible? You know there's going to be a gunfight if you they get their hands back on their guns. Why not be the one to shoot first, when they're unarmed? Television? It would have been cooler if he had smoked them tho. |
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a buddy sent me this, help me tie it together a bit better.
some slight spoilers/guesses on the last few paragraphs/pictures. http://uproxx.com/tv/2015/08/true-detective-black-maps-and-motel-rooms-recap/ |
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So the rapist was Frank's red headed #2 guy that he shot in his office. He's the one that Frank got the 'meth head' info from to give Velcoro. And he is was a ginger. ETA - anyone see Frank's shopping list. M-4 Automatic Rifles, Benelli M-4 Shotguns, Remington 870 Shotguns. View Quote No, it wasn't his #2 guy. The #2 guy picked some meth-head as the guy so he could gain favor with Frank and move up in the organization. The actual rapist is the one that Velcoro met in the prison. |
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So the rapist was Frank's red headed #2 guy that he shot in his office. He's the one that Frank got the 'meth head' info from to give Velcoro. And he is was a ginger. ETA - anyone see Frank's shopping list. M-4 Automatic Rifles, Benelli M-4 Shotguns, Remington 870 Shotguns. http://i.imgur.com/vXuIhQA.png Does it bother anyone else that they repeated a few of the listings as opposed to putting like "x2" next to it like other listings? Or how they misspelled Remington as "Remmington?" |
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At least this season seems building up to end on a high note rather than fucking up the ending like last season's dumpster fire.
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That song in the beginning makes no sense if the Russians killed Casper (or whoever). It has to be the brother from the jewelery store.
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At least this season seems building up to end on a high note rather than fucking up the ending like last season's garbage. https://d.gr-assets.com/hostedimages/1380341135ra/697377.gif It was terrible. Forced, rushed, implausible, and cliche. There's a huge conspiracy spanning generations of powerful people...nah, just kidding it was an inbred retard coon ass lawnmower jockey and we solved it in six minutes becuase he somehow managed to get green paint on his ears and we somehow managed to put that together 20 years later. The first season went from a brilliant slow burn masterpiece to a bad episode of Criminal Minds quicker than I hit rewind on Daddario's tits. |
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Quoted: It was terrible. Forced, rushed, implausible, and cliche. There's a huge conspiracy spanning generations of powerful people...nah, just kidding it was an inbred retard coon ass lawnmower jockey and we solved it in six minutes becuase he somehow managed to get green paint on his ears and we somehow managed to put that together 20 years later. The first season went from a brilliant slow burn masterpiece to a bad episode of Criminal Minds quicker than I hit rewind on Daddario's tits. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: At least this season seems building up to end on a high note rather than fucking up the ending like last season's garbage. https://d.gr-assets.com/hostedimages/1380341135ra/697377.gif It was terrible. Forced, rushed, implausible, and cliche. There's a huge conspiracy spanning generations of powerful people...nah, just kidding it was an inbred retard coon ass lawnmower jockey and we solved it in six minutes becuase he somehow managed to get green paint on his ears and we somehow managed to put that together 20 years later. The first season went from a brilliant slow burn masterpiece to a bad episode of Criminal Minds quicker than I hit rewind on Daddario's tits. |
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It was terrible. Forced, rushed, implausible, and cliche. There's a huge conspiracy spanning generations of powerful people...nah, just kidding it was an inbred retard coon ass lawnmower jockey and we solved it in six minutes becuase he somehow managed to get green paint on his ears and we somehow managed to put that together 20 years later. The first season went from a brilliant slow burn masterpiece to a bad episode of Criminal Minds quicker than I hit rewind on Daddario's tits. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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At least this season seems building up to end on a high note rather than fucking up the ending like last season's garbage. https://d.gr-assets.com/hostedimages/1380341135ra/697377.gif It was terrible. Forced, rushed, implausible, and cliche. There's a huge conspiracy spanning generations of powerful people...nah, just kidding it was an inbred retard coon ass lawnmower jockey and we solved it in six minutes becuase he somehow managed to get green paint on his ears and we somehow managed to put that together 20 years later. The first season went from a brilliant slow burn masterpiece to a bad episode of Criminal Minds quicker than I hit rewind on Daddario's tits. They laid it out pretty explicitly in the final episode of season one that they knew that the "powerful people" were still out there, but they had done about all they could. Rev Tuttle met his demise somehow, so that and the attempted arrest/raid/subsequent death of the crazy lawn technician tied up most of the loose ends and allowed the "powerful people" to slink back into the shadows. |
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They laid it out pretty explicitly in the final episode of season one that they knew that the "powerful people" were still out there, but they had done about all they could. Rev Tuttle met his demise somehow, so that and the attempted arrest/raid/subsequent death of the crazy lawn technician tied up most of the loose ends and allowed the "powerful people" to slink back into the shadows. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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At least this season seems building up to end on a high note rather than fucking up the ending like last season's garbage. https://d.gr-assets.com/hostedimages/1380341135ra/697377.gif It was terrible. Forced, rushed, implausible, and cliche. There's a huge conspiracy spanning generations of powerful people...nah, just kidding it was an inbred retard coon ass lawnmower jockey and we solved it in six minutes becuase he somehow managed to get green paint on his ears and we somehow managed to put that together 20 years later. The first season went from a brilliant slow burn masterpiece to a bad episode of Criminal Minds quicker than I hit rewind on Daddario's tits. They laid it out pretty explicitly in the final episode of season one that they knew that the "powerful people" were still out there, but they had done about all they could. Rev Tuttle met his demise somehow, so that and the attempted arrest/raid/subsequent death of the crazy lawn technician tied up most of the loose ends and allowed the "powerful people" to slink back into the shadows. Oh, I understood but it still seemed lazy to me. I didn't expect them to catch everyone but the rest of the season deserved a better finale than the tired, half assed police procedural ending we got. The green paint thing was really weak and the inbred cartoon bad guy was straight from the cliche TV villians play book. |
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At least this season seems building up to end on a high note rather than fucking up the ending like last season's garbage. https://d.gr-assets.com/hostedimages/1380341135ra/697377.gif It was terrible. Forced, rushed, implausible, and cliche. There's a huge conspiracy spanning generations of powerful people...nah, just kidding it was an inbred retard coon ass lawnmower jockey and we solved it in six minutes becuase he somehow managed to get green paint on his ears and we somehow managed to put that together 20 years later. The first season went from a brilliant slow burn masterpiece to a bad episode of Criminal Minds quicker than I hit rewind on Daddario's tits. They laid it out pretty explicitly in the final episode of season one that they knew that the "powerful people" were still out there, but they had done about all they could. Rev Tuttle met his demise somehow, so that and the attempted arrest/raid/subsequent death of the crazy lawn technician tied up most of the loose ends and allowed the "powerful people" to slink back into the shadows. Oh, I understood but it still seemed lazy to me. I didn't expect them to catch everyone but the rest of the season deserved a better finale than the tired, half assed police procedural ending we got. The green paint thing was really weak and the inbred cartoon bad guy was straight from the cliche TV villians play book. Kharn Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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