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Posted: 5/23/2015 4:35:33 PM EDT
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And there is the problem. I'll bet nearly everyone has broken at least one, if not several laws before the six 'o clock news. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good job calls and letters? More than you think. We had one a week ago from a MV stop a guy made. Ahhh...the good ol days of policing. Man, when the job was easier! There certainly was plenty of violent crime 25 years ago. Drugs were about as bad. In fact, I think you'll see that the rates of violent crime was worse 25 years ago than it is today. Crime doesnt mean the job was harder. The amount of laws, procedures, policies etc were a fraction back then compared to now. When I was a new recruit back in 1970, they gave us a booklet in the academy that contained all laws we needed to know, from traffic laws to misdemeanors to felonies in the state of Texas. It was a soft cover book, yellow in color, and was about the size of an old Reader's Digest. I bet such a list today would look more like a Houston phone book, in several volumes. And there is the problem. I'll bet nearly everyone has broken at least one, if not several laws before the six 'o clock news. Yep,thousands of laws added to the books every year at all levels,who has time to look them all up? I remember the beginning of this year there were "dozens of new laws" taking affect,but the media only talked about 1. These are the good ol days-the fuckers are thinking up more laws as we sit here and chat.  
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Posted: 5/23/2015 4:42:00 PM EDT
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That would be a good start. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tag for more details That would be a good start. Yeah, I need more input. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 4:45:13 PM EDT
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A broken hip at that age is basically a mortal wound.
I guess reaching for the can of ensure was a furtive movement. Officer Waingro had no choice. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 4:48:38 PM EDT
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Not a doubt in your mind that it happened exactly as the lawyer said? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fucking jackasses. Not a doubt in your mind that it happened exactly as the lawyer said? I don't think the lawyer said what you think he said - "The thing that concerns me about this is it looks to me like a conspiracy of silence. Things like this don't happen in a vacuum. There's nothing that we've been able to get that identifies the officers, that identifies the action that occurred. We have our client's information but I had to hire a private investigator just to get enough faxed to determine whether I should file a lawsuit or not. And I'm convinced that the facts are adequate to file this lawsuit and we'll find out now that we have some way to get accurate information," said Crisp's attorney, Boadus Spivey. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:01:43 PM EDT
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Funny, shit like this happens all the time. But do the LEO's learn from it? No, they just circle the wagons. And make that TBL a 4 lane highway. Then they wonder why the average citizen in the country has no use for them. They made the bed, they are currently sleeping in. I don't bash cops. They have never done anything to me I didn't deserve. But they have totally screwed the pooch so many times. It's about all fucked out. And most people don't give a rats ass about them! The cops in this case very well may turn out to be total douchebags...... .......as far as most people not giving a rats ass about police........lol.........I'd venture 95% of the community I work for loves us.........the 5% who don't are either criminals or losers |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:02:44 PM EDT
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My pizza is late. Your policy says you HAVE to respond to EVERY call. Now go find my pizza. I pay your salary. You work for me.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Funny, shit like this happens all the time. But do the LEO's learn from it? No, they just circle the wagons. And make that TBL a 4 lane highway. Then they wonder why the average citizen in the country has no use for them. They made the bed, they are currently sleeping in. I don't bash cops. They have never done anything to me I didn't deserve. But they have totally screwed the pooch so many times. It's about all fucked out. And most people don't give a rats ass about them! The amount of calls we get would say otherwise. Maybe you could educate them? My pizza is late. Your policy says you HAVE to respond to EVERY call. Now go find my pizza. I pay your salary. You work for me. Am I invited for pizza........hell I'll go pick it up......... |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:04:24 PM EDT
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Miss this part? 
I also used to wear a badge around 25 years ago. Sure you get calls for help. When people have little recourse. Because if people do things on their own they'll get arrested. So of course you get calls But how many calls do you get from average citizens. Saying "Good Job" ? Do you honestly think that the Law Enforcement Community is loved and respected in this country? This isn't the 1950's anymore. Hell it's not even the 80's when you guys still had respect. Now not so much. 
Who's fault would that be? I blame it on heavy handed tactics of The War On Drugs. . Mindset brought, or creeping into the rest of law enforcement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Funny, shit like this happens all the time. But do the LEO's learn from it? No, they just circle the wagons. And make that TBL a 4 lane highway. Then they wonder why the average citizen in the country has no use for them. They made the bed, they are currently sleeping in. I don't bash cops. They have never done anything to me I didn't deserve. But they have totally screwed the pooch so many times. It's about all fucked out. And most people don't give a rats ass about them! The amount of calls we get would say otherwise. Maybe you could educate them? Miss this part?
I also used to wear a badge around 25 years ago. Sure you get calls for help. When people have little recourse. Because if people do things on their own they'll get arrested. So of course you get calls But how many calls do you get from average citizens. Saying "Good Job" ? Do you honestly think that the Law Enforcement Community is loved and respected in this country? This isn't the 1950's anymore. Hell it's not even the 80's when you guys still had respect. Now not so much.
Who's fault would that be? I blame it on heavy handed tactics of The War On Drugs. . Mindset brought, or creeping into the rest of law enforcement. Ahh......yes.......the days of yore in LE........back when saps and blackjacks ruled the streets |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:05:46 PM EDT
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If true, I hope some guys go to jail.
If not for the everyday patrol man, at least these types of raids should have a video recorder. If its exceptional enough to need a SWAT team, its exceptional enough to have body cams and an external recorder. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:05:47 PM EDT
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I don't hate cops. I hate bad cops. The police are an absolutely necessary part of a civil society. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Funny, shit like this happens all the time. But do the LEO's learn from it? No, they just circle the wagons. And make that TBL a 4 lane highway. Then they wonder why the average citizen in the country has no use for them. They made the bed, they are currently sleeping in. I don't bash cops. They have never done anything to me I didn't deserve. But they have totally screwed the pooch so many times. It's about all fucked out. And most people don't give a rats ass about them! Police officers continue to be voted in the top ten "Most Respected" lists. They are only hated by a few cop haters in General Discussion. I don't hate cops. I hate bad cops. The police are an absolutely necessary part of a civil society. Me too........if they left that old man like that then I hope they get fucked in the ass |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:07:23 PM EDT
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Am I invited for pizza........hell I'll go pick it up......... Yes. I like you. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:08:31 PM EDT
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If true, I hope some guys go to jail. If not for the everyday patrol man, at least these types of raids should have a video recorder. If its exceptional enough to need a SWAT team, its exceptional enough to have body cams and an external recorder. Yep. As much to protect them as to make sure they don't fuck up. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:10:18 PM EDT
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Yep. As much to protect them as to make sure they don't fuck up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If true, I hope some guys go to jail. If not for the everyday patrol man, at least these types of raids should have a video recorder. If its exceptional enough to need a SWAT team, its exceptional enough to have body cams and an external recorder. Yep. As much to protect them as to make sure they don't fuck up. I would hazard to say 90% of the time the cameras vindicate the cops. maybe more. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:10:26 PM EDT
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What I posted is 100% correct. "After doctors, the rest of the top ten occupations seen as prestigious include military officers (78%), firefighters (76%), scientists (76%), nurses (70%), engineers (69%), police officers (66%), priests/ministers/clergy (62%), architects (62%), and athletes (60%). " Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Funny, shit like this happens all the time. But do the LEO's learn from it? No, they just circle the wagons. And make that TBL a 4 lane highway. Then they wonder why the average citizen in the country has no use for them. They made the bed, they are currently sleeping in. I don't bash cops. They have never done anything to me I didn't deserve. But they have totally screwed the pooch so many times. It's about all fucked out. And most people don't give a rats ass about them! Police officers continue to be voted in the top ten "Most Respected" lists. They are only hated by a few cop haters in General Discussion.  
What I posted is 100% correct. "After doctors, the rest of the top ten occupations seen as prestigious include military officers (78%), firefighters (76%), scientists (76%), nurses (70%), engineers (69%), police officers (66%), priests/ministers/clergy (62%), architects (62%), and athletes (60%). " Where are lawyers on that list?.......specifically ambulance chasing lawyers? |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:10:32 PM EDT
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The amount of calls we get would say otherwise. Maybe you could educate them? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Funny, shit like this happens all the time. But do the LEO's learn from it? No, they just circle the wagons. And make that TBL a 4 lane highway. Then they wonder why the average citizen in the country has no use for them. They made the bed, they are currently sleeping in. I don't bash cops. They have never done anything to me I didn't deserve. But they have totally screwed the pooch so many times. It's about all fucked out. And most people don't give a rats ass about them! The amount of calls we get would say otherwise. Maybe you could educate them? The majority voted for Big O, so just keep serving.obeying doing your job as your local politicians see fit and you'll be covered. History has proven there will never be of shortage of people to follow orders for a check dental insurance.
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:10:33 PM EDT
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Life Alert is missing a golden marketing opportunity - "I've been oppressed, and I can't get up!"
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:12:58 PM EDT
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Where are lawyers on that list?.......specifically ambulance chasing lawyers? You're officially uninvited for pizza.
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:14:18 PM EDT
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There are two possibilities: 1. It happened exactly as stated by the lawyer. In that case, the police were wrong and the guy ought to win a law suit. 2. There might be more to the story, and maybe it didn't happen exactly as stated. Quote HistoryQuoted:
There are two possibilities: 1. It happened exactly as stated by the lawyer. In that case, the police were wrong and the guy ought to win a law suit. 2. There might be more to the story, and maybe it didn't happen exactly as stated. Video shot by someone driving by that day shows Herman Crisp sitting in a chair on his lawn with a friend. He says when the officers arrived; they threw a flash-bang device at his home, knocking him out of his chair. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:18:31 PM EDT
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I would hazard to say 90% of the time the cameras vindicate the cops. maybe more. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If true, I hope some guys go to jail. If not for the everyday patrol man, at least these types of raids should have a video recorder. If its exceptional enough to need a SWAT team, its exceptional enough to have body cams and an external recorder. Yep. As much to protect them as to make sure they don't fuck up. I would hazard to say 90% of the time the cameras vindicate the cops. maybe more. If the police know they're on camera, they're going to be minding their P's and Q's. It's much more revealing when they're caught on camera without their knowledge. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:18:43 PM EDT
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I don't think the lawyer said what you think he said - "The thing that concerns me about this is it looks to me like a conspiracy of silence. Things like this don't happen in a vacuum. There's nothing that we've been able to get that identifies the officers, that identifies the action that occurred. We have our client's information but I had to hire a private investigator just to get enough faxed to determine whether I should file a lawsuit or not. And I'm convinced that the facts are adequate to file this lawsuit and we'll find out now that we have some way to get accurate information," said Crisp's attorney, Boadus Spivey. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fucking jackasses. Not a doubt in your mind that it happened exactly as the lawyer said? I don't think the lawyer said what you think he said - "The thing that concerns me about this is it looks to me like a conspiracy of silence. Things like this don't happen in a vacuum. There's nothing that we've been able to get that identifies the officers, that identifies the action that occurred. We have our client's information but I had to hire a private investigator just to get enough faxed to determine whether I should file a lawsuit or not. And I'm convinced that the facts are adequate to file this lawsuit and we'll find out now that we have some way to get accurate information," said Crisp's attorney, Boadus Spivey. So maybe either the old man is crazy or senile and the police were never there, or police were there and covering it up. One would think there are radio logs, and probably far more evidence that will be uncovered. That doesn't sound like an ambulance chasing lawyer looking for a quick shakedown to me. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:18:48 PM EDT
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Police officers continue to be voted in the top ten "Most Respected" lists. Those aren't votes. They are reported responses to polls. You, like President Romney, can believe the polls if it makes you feel good. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:21:22 PM EDT
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Those aren't votes. They are reported responses to polls. You, like President Romney, can believe the polls if it makes you feel good. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Police officers continue to be voted in the top ten "Most Respected" lists. Those aren't votes. They are reported responses to polls. You, like President Romney, can believe the polls if it makes you feel good.
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:22:49 PM EDT
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The cops in this case very well may turn out to be total douchebags...... .......as far as most people not giving a rats ass about police........lol.........I'd venture 95% of the community I work for loves us.........the 5% who don't are either criminals or losers Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Funny, shit like this happens all the time. But do the LEO's learn from it? No, they just circle the wagons. And make that TBL a 4 lane highway. Then they wonder why the average citizen in the country has no use for them. They made the bed, they are currently sleeping in. I don't bash cops. They have never done anything to me I didn't deserve. But they have totally screwed the pooch so many times. It's about all fucked out. And most people don't give a rats ass about them! The cops in this case very well may turn out to be total douchebags...... .......as far as most people not giving a rats ass about police........lol.........I'd venture 95% of the community I work for loves us.........the 5% who don't are either criminals or losers That's a mighty broad brush you're painting with sport. But, I'm sure it's a comforting thought, regardless if its true. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:23:04 PM EDT
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Where are lawyers on that list?.......specifically ambulance chasing lawyers? You're officially uninvited for pizza. 
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:25:45 PM EDT
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That's a mighty broad brush you're painting with sport. But, I'm sure it's a comforting thought, regardless if its true. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Funny, shit like this happens all the time. But do the LEO's learn from it? No, they just circle the wagons. And make that TBL a 4 lane highway. Then they wonder why the average citizen in the country has no use for them. They made the bed, they are currently sleeping in. I don't bash cops. They have never done anything to me I didn't deserve. But they have totally screwed the pooch so many times. It's about all fucked out. And most people don't give a rats ass about them! The cops in this case very well may turn out to be total douchebags...... .......as far as most people not giving a rats ass about police........lol.........I'd venture 95% of the community I work for loves us.........the 5% who don't are either criminals or losers That's a mighty broad brush you're painting with sport. But, I'm sure it's a comforting thought, regardless if its true. What people say to a cop's face and what they say behind closed doors are not always the same. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 5:30:28 PM EDT
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The majority voted for Big O, so just keep serving.obeying doing your job as your local politicians see fit and you'll be covered. History has proven there will never be of shortage of people to follow orders for a check dental insurance.
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Funny, shit like this happens all the time. But do the LEO's learn from it? No, they just circle the wagons. And make that TBL a 4 lane highway. Then they wonder why the average citizen in the country has no use for them. They made the bed, they are currently sleeping in. I don't bash cops. They have never done anything to me I didn't deserve. But they have totally screwed the pooch so many times. It's about all fucked out. And most people don't give a rats ass about them! The amount of calls we get would say otherwise. Maybe you could educate them? The majority voted for Big O, so just keep serving.obeying doing your job as your local politicians see fit and you'll be covered. History has proven there will never be of shortage of people to follow orders for a check dental insurance.
I live in a very red area. I dont think many, if at all, voted for Obama. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 6:43:58 PM EDT
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If true, I hope some guys go to jail. If not for the everyday patrol man, at least these types of raids should have a video recorder. If its exceptional enough to need a SWAT team, its exceptional enough to have body cams and an external recorder. If the big tough swat cops did go to jail you know they would be asking to be put in protective segregation, because they wouldn't be feeling so tough. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 6:45:53 PM EDT
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If the big tough swat cops did go to jail you know they would be asking to be put in protective segregation, because they wouldn't be feeling so tough. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If true, I hope some guys go to jail. If not for the everyday patrol man, at least these types of raids should have a video recorder. If its exceptional enough to need a SWAT team, its exceptional enough to have body cams and an external recorder. If the big tough swat cops did go to jail you know they would be asking to be put in protective segregation, because they wouldn't be feeling so tough. Awww, poor baby. Tell me what made you so insecure. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 7:23:48 PM EDT
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Awww, poor baby. Tell me what made you so insecure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If true, I hope some guys go to jail. If not for the everyday patrol man, at least these types of raids should have a video recorder. If its exceptional enough to need a SWAT team, its exceptional enough to have body cams and an external recorder. If the big tough swat cops did go to jail you know they would be asking to be put in protective segregation, because they wouldn't be feeling so tough. Awww, poor baby. Tell me what made you so insecure. I worked in a prison. They would be insecure. 
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Posted: 5/23/2015 7:34:07 PM EDT
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I worked in a prison. They would be insecure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If true, I hope some guys go to jail. If not for the everyday patrol man, at least these types of raids should have a video recorder. If its exceptional enough to need a SWAT team, its exceptional enough to have body cams and an external recorder. If the big tough swat cops did go to jail you know they would be asking to be put in protective segregation, because they wouldn't be feeling so tough. Awww, poor baby. Tell me what made you so insecure. I worked in a prison. They would be insecure. Means nothing, son. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 7:35:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2015 7:38:10 PM EDT
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When your only tool is a hammer, and you have qualified immunity, every problem is going to look like it needs the living shit beat out of it. Yep. Explain to me now GD how you are not living in a bonafide police state? |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 7:41:33 PM EDT
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When your only tool is a hammer, and you have qualified immunity, every problem is going to look like it needs the living shit beat out of it. Yep. Explain to me now GD how you are not living in a bonafide police state? Define police state. 
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Posted: 5/23/2015 7:50:46 PM EDT
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When your only tool is a hammer, and you have qualified immunity, every problem is going to look like it needs the living shit beat out of it. Yep. Explain to me now GD how you are not living in a bonafide police state? Define police state. I think it means you have speed limits and stuff. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 7:51:23 PM EDT
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Why? Do you not remember the story about the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Deputy that ran over an innocent bicyclist and TOTALLY GOT AWAY WITH IT? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe his nephew could pony up a little. Why? Who's hip did he break? If the incident occurred the way it was described, then there should be a large payout and proper disciplinary action. There's still a lot of info left out. Why? Do you not remember the story about the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Deputy that ran over an innocent bicyclist and TOTALLY GOT AWAY WITH IT? Can you please explain why you think these two scenarios are related given the information we have at this time? Not following how a vehicle vs ped has anything to do with an alleged warrant service. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 8:05:25 PM EDT
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Funny, shit like this happens all the time. But do the LEO's learn from it? No, they just circle the wagons. And make that TBL a 4 lane highway. Then they wonder why the average citizen in the country has no use for them. They made the bed, they are currently sleeping in. I don't bash cops. They have never done anything to me I didn't deserve. But they have totally screwed the pooch so many times. It's about all fucked out. And most people don't give a rats ass about them! Police officers continue to be voted in the top ten "Most Respected" lists. They are only hated by a few cop haters in General Discussion. I don't hate cops. I hate bad cops. The police are an absolutely necessary part of a civil society. Me too........if they left that old man like that then I hope they get fucked in the ass Did the old man tell any of the cops he was injured? |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 8:10:39 PM EDT
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When your only tool is a hammer, and you have qualified immunity, every problem is going to look like it needs the living shit beat out of it. Yep. Explain to me now GD how you are not living in a bonafide police state? Define police state. I think it means you have speed limits and stuff. Fringed flags. 
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Posted: 5/23/2015 8:41:13 PM EDT
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Funny, shit like this happens all the time. But do the LEO's learn from it? No, they just circle the wagons. And make that TBL a 4 lane highway. Then they wonder why the average citizen in the country has no use for them. They made the bed, they are currently sleeping in. I don't bash cops. They have never done anything to me I didn't deserve. But they have totally screwed the pooch so many times. It's about all fucked out. And most people don't give a rats ass about them! Police officers continue to be voted in the top ten "Most Respected" lists. They are only hated by a few cop haters in General Discussion. I don't hate cops. I hate bad cops. The police are an absolutely necessary part of a civil society. Me too........if they left that old man like that then I hope they get fucked in the ass Did the old man tell any of the cops he was injured? lol I remember a few videos where the cops basically just said tough shit or stood around and did nothing when someone was hurt.Not all cops are good people. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 8:48:40 PM EDT
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lol I remember a few videos where the cops basically just said tough shit or stood around and did nothing when someone was hurt.Not all cops are good people. Unless they have the training, why would they want to get sued? |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 9:16:43 PM EDT
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lol I remember a few videos where the cops basically just said tough shit or stood around and did nothing when someone was hurt.Not all cops are good people. Unless they have the training, why would they want to get sued? Yeah,I understand that-had the same conversation with Extorris not too long ago. Our small town cops around here have EMT training and that seems like a good idea to me.I've taken basic courses over the years as well,just so I don't end up standing around watching someone bleed out. The lawsuit part is shitty-I'd rather someone at least tried to help me or a family member even if they weren't a doctor or nurse.Probably a different mindset in a big city over the hospital being 45 minutes away in a rural area. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 9:23:32 PM EDT
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Yeah,I understand that-had the same conversation with Extorris not too long ago. Our small town cops around here have EMT training and that seems like a good idea to me.I've taken basic courses over the years as well,just so I don't end up standing around watching someone bleed out. The lawsuit part is shitty-I'd rather someone at least tried to help me or a family member even if they weren't a doctor or nurse.Probably a different mindset in a big city over the hospital being 45 minutes away in a rural area. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol I remember a few videos where the cops basically just said tough shit or stood around and did nothing when someone was hurt.Not all cops are good people. Unless they have the training, why would they want to get sued? Yeah,I understand that-had the same conversation with Extorris not too long ago. Our small town cops around here have EMT training and that seems like a good idea to me.I've taken basic courses over the years as well,just so I don't end up standing around watching someone bleed out. The lawsuit part is shitty-I'd rather someone at least tried to help me or a family member even if they weren't a doctor or nurse.Probably a different mindset in a big city over the hospital being 45 minutes away in a rural area. You might, because you want them to do the right thing and try. However, not everyone has the right mindset and we have to deal with the lowest common demoninator. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 9:29:33 PM EDT
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lol I remember a few videos where the cops basically just said tough shit or stood around and did nothing when someone was hurt.Not all cops are good people. With the amount of info in the linked story I think we should move straight to deliberations..... |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 9:35:58 PM EDT
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There are two possibilities: 1. It happened exactly as stated by the lawyer. In that case, the police were wrong and the guy ought to win a law suit. 2. There might be more to the story, and maybe it didn't happen exactly as stated. Must have been a feisty old dude to warrant a flash bang Considering he wasn't arrested, my money is on #1. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 9:39:35 PM EDT
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With the amount of info in the linked story I think we should move straight to deliberations..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol I remember a few videos where the cops basically just said tough shit or stood around and did nothing when someone was hurt.Not all cops are good people. With the amount of info in the linked story I think we should move straight to deliberations..... 
I posted previously in this thread that I would wait to hear more of the story. I was talking about other incidents that were caught on tape where the cops didn't care. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 9:39:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I honestly doubt that. But imagine being a police officer and needing to know all of those laws. And they are constantly changing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And there is the problem. I'll bet nearly everyone has broken at least one, if not several laws before the six 'o clock news. I honestly doubt that. But imagine being a police officer and needing to know all of those laws. And they are constantly changing. They just need to know the ones they're going to enforce. Imagine being someone that has to follow all of them. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 9:40:33 PM EDT
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lol I remember a few videos where the cops basically just said tough shit or stood around and did nothing when someone was hurt.Not all cops are good people. Unless they have the training, why would they want to get sued? Yeah,I understand that-had the same conversation with Extorris not too long ago. Our small town cops around here have EMT training and that seems like a good idea to me.I've taken basic courses over the years as well,just so I don't end up standing around watching someone bleed out. The lawsuit part is shitty-I'd rather someone at least tried to help me or a family member even if they weren't a doctor or nurse.Probably a different mindset in a big city over the hospital being 45 minutes away in a rural area. You might, because you want them to do the right thing and try. However, not everyone has the right mindset and we have to deal with the lowest common demoninator. You're not always dealing with the lowest common denominator (but I get what you are saying).
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Posted: 5/23/2015 9:42:25 PM EDT
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Clawback.
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Posted: 5/23/2015 9:42:28 PM EDT
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And there is the problem. I'll bet nearly everyone has broken at least one, if not several laws before the six 'o clock news. I honestly doubt that. But imagine being a police officer and needing to know all of those laws. And they are constantly changing. They just need to know the ones they're going to enforce. Imagine being someone that has to follow all of them. Like the one in ,IIRC,Texas where the guy had a dealer plate?Cop tased and arrested him and the Chief came out later saying the guy was perfectly legal and the cop was wrong?
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Posted: 5/23/2015 9:42:37 PM EDT
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You're not always dealing with the lowest common denominator (but I get what you are saying).
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lol I remember a few videos where the cops basically just said tough shit or stood around and did nothing when someone was hurt.Not all cops are good people. Unless they have the training, why would they want to get sued? Yeah,I understand that-had the same conversation with Extorris not too long ago. Our small town cops around here have EMT training and that seems like a good idea to me.I've taken basic courses over the years as well,just so I don't end up standing around watching someone bleed out. The lawsuit part is shitty-I'd rather someone at least tried to help me or a family member even if they weren't a doctor or nurse.Probably a different mindset in a big city over the hospital being 45 minutes away in a rural area. You might, because you want them to do the right thing and try. However, not everyone has the right mindset and we have to deal with the lowest common demoninator. You're not always dealing with the lowest common denominator (but I get what you are saying).
Nope. But we dont know.
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Posted: 5/23/2015 9:50:17 PM EDT
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I'm sure it went down exactly as he said it did.
Yea I'm kinda doubting some of the "facts" clearly the 2 officers shown in the video weren't wearing SWAT gear. Needs more info. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 9:55:38 PM EDT
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I also want to note the general laziness we see in cases like these. Just a little surveillance work could have gotten ID on who was in the house and how to proceed. ETA We see in the wrong house no knocks as well. Perhaps laws need to change to put it to an end. Article states SEARCH warrant. |
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