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Posted: 4/30/2015 2:52:44 PM EDT
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For the money, I'd go with an STI Spartan or a Springfield Range Officer.
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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:03:32 PM EDT
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Jesus H. Chrxxt!!! What the hell is with the 1911 mystique???? 1911's SUCK CHICKEN SHIT THROUGH DIRTY SOCKS. Very much like the "Hands up, Don't shoot" bullshit that many people still believe. Just yesterday I was at my local range and there was a guy with a 1911 and his" branch of service" T-shirt goat-fucking a 1911. It failed to extract, and the guy stares at it for about 5 seconds and says "it's never done that before, I guess I should have used more oil". (Sure, buddy, sure it hasn't.) Finger-fucks it for about 30 more seconds trying to wipe it's ass clear it. Shoots another round, then CLICK!! Guy turns gun parallel to his abdomen and points muzzle right at his wife's head while he finger-fucks and wipes his 1911's ass a second time. 1911 has all the appeal of a ceremonial dress dagger. Useless man-accessory. I've owned enough 1911's to fill a 5-gallon bucket and I'd honest-to-God choose a Davis .380 to bet my life on over a 1911 penis-extender. 
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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:03:49 PM EDT
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I picked up a post-war Sistema 1927 years ago for about $300. I want to thank the Argentine Army for breaking it in for me.
I have yet to find anything it won't eat. It is the teenaged boy of .45 acp. Am I less than thrilled with the comparatively low cap mag? Yes. But it matters only on the range. But if I ever have to draw my 1911 and defend myself, if I can't do it with 8 rounds, I suspect I won't have time to use a 9th one anyway. Or I'll reload God willing. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:16:24 PM EDT
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So I'm guessing I hit the nail on the head. In your haste to tell a story about how shitty 1911's are in your opinion you showcased your lack of knowledge. Did you do ANYTHING to help the people in your story? Or just let them hang because "Fuck em and their 1911"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Took time away from trumpeting your GWOT experience and talking trash about every veteran who served before you, I see. So I'm guessing I hit the nail on the head. In your haste to tell a story about how shitty 1911's are in your opinion you showcased your lack of knowledge. Did you do ANYTHING to help the people in your story? Or just let them hang because "Fuck em and their 1911"? Well, Mr. Corporal of Marines, it's just like you weren't even there. You're no FBI profiler, that's for sure. This thread has been hijacked far enough, which wan't my intention, but I'll own up to my part in it and apologize for that. I could give you an earful about your attitude and level of maturity in MANY threads, but I'd prefer not to get locked, or banned. Adios. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:25:55 PM EDT
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Start out with a Springfield. springfield is a great 1911 |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:27:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, Mr. Corporal of Marines, it's just like you weren't even there. You're no FBI profiler, that's for sure. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: snip Well, Mr. Corporal of Marines, it's just like you weren't even there. You're no FBI profiler, that's for sure. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:35:54 PM EDT
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Dan Wesson Specialist. can put a light on for night stand use. close to custom without being custom as you will get. Should be able to find one for $1500
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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:36:30 PM EDT
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What's the verdict on Sig Sauer 1911s? I know they aren't "true" 1911s according to some, but I was tempted by one recently. Google-fu seems to show some have issues while others just keep on going. Seems to be a real love/hate pistol. -p. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:38:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: wouldnt shoot a wwII colt..again, im a glock guy...not real desire to shoot a 1911, but i appreciate them and would like one nice one in the safe alot of 1911's are on the list including wilson, nighthawk, les baer, springfield, sig, etc etc http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/safeguns.asp **eta....i dont doubt a good 1911's accuracy and reliability, but if im gonna want that out the box, i can get that for $500....im trying to get something that is pretty nice and if spending an extra $1000 or 1500 is WORTH IT, then i will go that route. are the wilsons, les baers, ed browns, nighthawks, etc of the world worth the extra $1000-1500??** Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What other 1911s are on the approved list? I think the Cbob is the only Dan Wesson to make the list, correct? USGI pistols in the $1500+ range are collectible for a reason. Buying one to shoot is silly IMO. wouldnt shoot a wwII colt..again, im a glock guy...not real desire to shoot a 1911, but i appreciate them and would like one nice one in the safe alot of 1911's are on the list including wilson, nighthawk, les baer, springfield, sig, etc etc http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/safeguns.asp **eta....i dont doubt a good 1911's accuracy and reliability, but if im gonna want that out the box, i can get that for $500....im trying to get something that is pretty nice and if spending an extra $1000 or 1500 is WORTH IT, then i will go that route. are the wilsons, les baers, ed browns, nighthawks, etc of the world worth the extra $1000-1500??** Since you say you have no real desire to shoot a 1911, but you appreciate them that would indicate to me that it would be worth your time and money to find an investment grade collector Colt, not put the money into a modern gun. How does Cali deal with older colts? Is it by the list only or can you get your hands on vintage stuff? If all you can get is what's on the list, than yea a LB, Brown, or Wilson won't be too bad, but they are at the end of the day just really nice semi-customs. Their value lies only with the fact they are really nice, and the production is small. All they mean is that you spent a lot of cash on a gun, the same could be spent on an HK MK23 to the same effect. Pre- WW2 Colts, later Gold cups, stuff like that is collectable, and retains and gains value on top of being examples of eras that can no longer be replicated. If shooting it is not your primary concern, IMHO it would be a good avenue to research. Springers, Kimbers, etc. are not collector guns. They are good if you want a cheap shooter. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:39:15 PM EDT
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Suprised the op being a Glock guy and all does'nt get a Gock 1911
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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:39:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the verdict on Sig Sauer 1911s? I know they aren't "true" 1911s according to some, but I was tempted by one recently. Google-fu seems to show some have issues while others just keep on going. Seems to be a real love/hate pistol. -p. All the ones I've sold, shot, and have watched people shoot seem to work pretty good. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:42:44 PM EDT
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Dan Wesson.
Tripp mags. Spend the other $1000 you woulda dropped on a Wilson or Ed Brown on ammo/loading components and shoot the everliving shit out of it until it becomes an extension of your arm. eta: Oh wow, the party's already in full swing 
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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:47:27 PM EDT
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Since you say you have no real desire to shoot a 1911, but you appreciate them that would indicate to me that it would be worth your time and money to find an investment grade collector Colt, not put the money into a modern gun. How does Cali deal with older colts? Is it by the list only or can you get your hands on vintage stuff? If all you can get is what's on the list, than yea a LB, Brown, or Wilson won't be too bad, but they are at the end of the day just really nice semi-customs. Their value lies only with the fact they are really nice, and the production is small. All they mean is that you spent a lot of cash on a gun, the same could be spent on an HK MK23 to the same effect. Pre- WW2 Colts, later Gold cups, stuff like that is collectable, and retains and gains value on top of being examples of eras that can no longer be replicated. If shooting it is not your primary concern, IMHO it would be a good avenue to research. Springers, Kimbers, etc. are not collector guns. They are good if you want a cheap shooter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What other 1911s are on the approved list? I think the Cbob is the only Dan Wesson to make the list, correct? USGI pistols in the $1500+ range are collectible for a reason. Buying one to shoot is silly IMO. wouldnt shoot a wwII colt..again, im a glock guy...not real desire to shoot a 1911, but i appreciate them and would like one nice one in the safe alot of 1911's are on the list including wilson, nighthawk, les baer, springfield, sig, etc etc http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/safeguns.asp **eta....i dont doubt a good 1911's accuracy and reliability, but if im gonna want that out the box, i can get that for $500....im trying to get something that is pretty nice and if spending an extra $1000 or 1500 is WORTH IT, then i will go that route. are the wilsons, les baers, ed browns, nighthawks, etc of the world worth the extra $1000-1500??** Since you say you have no real desire to shoot a 1911, but you appreciate them that would indicate to me that it would be worth your time and money to find an investment grade collector Colt, not put the money into a modern gun. How does Cali deal with older colts? Is it by the list only or can you get your hands on vintage stuff? If all you can get is what's on the list, than yea a LB, Brown, or Wilson won't be too bad, but they are at the end of the day just really nice semi-customs. Their value lies only with the fact they are really nice, and the production is small. All they mean is that you spent a lot of cash on a gun, the same could be spent on an HK MK23 to the same effect. Pre- WW2 Colts, later Gold cups, stuff like that is collectable, and retains and gains value on top of being examples of eras that can no longer be replicated. If shooting it is not your primary concern, IMHO it would be a good avenue to research. Springers, Kimbers, etc. are not collector guns. They are good if you want a cheap shooter. the original goal was a decent wwII colt...but my buddy who is a 1911 snob kinda pointed me in the direction of the more modern semi customs but he is not opposed to the old war colts...thats why im kinda in limbo, but dont see myself getting both a vintage war piece AND a new semi custom...its one or the other |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:49:14 PM EDT
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Dan Wesson. Tripp mags. Spend the other $1000 you woulda dropped on a Wilson or Ed Brown on ammo/loading components and shoot the everliving shit out of it until it becomes an extension of your arm. eta: Oh wow, the party's already in full swing not a bad suggestion but $1000 more for a nighthawk is not a big deal if its worth the $1000 difference...if its not, then the dan wesson is fine...plus i like the bobtail...for no other reason than it looks cool |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:56:15 PM EDT
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Wilson? Yes, worth it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What other 1911s are on the approved list? I think the Cbob is the only Dan Wesson to make the list, correct? USGI pistols in the $1500+ range are collectible for a reason. Buying one to shoot is silly IMO. wouldnt shoot a wwII colt..again, im a glock guy...not real desire to shoot a 1911, but i appreciate them and would like one nice one in the safe alot of 1911's are on the list including wilson, nighthawk, les baer, springfield, sig, etc etc http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/safeguns.asp **eta....i dont doubt a good 1911's accuracy and reliability, but if im gonna want that out the box, i can get that for $500....im trying to get something that is pretty nice and if spending an extra $1000 or 1500 is WORTH IT, then i will go that route. are the wilsons, les baers, ed browns, nighthawks, etc of the world worth the extra $1000-1500??** Wilson? Yes, worth it. Wilsons are worth it if you understand what you're getting for the extra money. As a first time purchaser you may be wasting money. OP, I would stay in the $1500 range. That seems to be the sweet spot for features vs value. I don't know how much the cost is inflated because of being in CA, but I wouldn't go below that. Springfield TRP Maybe a Baer Thunder Ranch for a bit more |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:58:40 PM EDT
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A guy did that to me with a brand new G26. Guess I should fill up a bucket with my glocks and toss them too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jesus H. Chrxxt!!! What the hell is with the 1911 mystique???? 1911's SUCK CHICKEN SHIT THROUGH DIRTY SOCKS. Very much like the "Hands up, Don't shoot" bullshit that many people still believe. Just yesterday I was at my local range and there was a guy with a 1911 and his" branch of service" T-shirt goat-fucking a 1911. It failed to extract, and the guy stares at it for about 5 seconds and says "it's never done that before, I guess I should have used more oil". (Sure, buddy, sure it hasn't.) Finger-fucks it for about 30 more seconds trying to wipe it's ass clear it. Shoots another round, then CLICK!! Guy turns gun parallel to his abdomen and points muzzle right at his wife's head while he finger-fucks and wipes his 1911's ass a second time. 1911 has all the appeal of a ceremonial dress dagger. Useless man-accessory. I've owned enough 1911's to fill a 5-gallon bucket and I'd honest-to-God choose a Davis .380 to bet my life on over a 1911 penis-extender. A guy did that to me with a brand new G26. Guess I should fill up a bucket with my glocks and toss them too. I'm at the range 2-3 times every week and it's the guys with the 1911s, HKs, and P Series SIGs that appear to be the most knowledgeable and accomplished shooters. It's almost always the young guys with the Glocks who come in all tactical looking, and who don't shut the fuck up for a damned second when they're on the line, that are the clueless and reckless shmoes. I'm at the range earlier this week and one of those types, who's been blasting away with his Glock at a sillouette at 7 yards and barely hitting paper, is watching me shoot one of my X-Fives at a 5" Orange Peel 25 yards out and nailing it. He turns to his friend and says.........."look how much more accurate that gun is than ours".   
Looks over to a friend of mine, an older guy shooting a Baer Custom Carry, who's putting round after round into the same hole at 10 yards and says...."his too". Fucking goobers. Word. 1911s rock.......unless they're in the hands of a shmoe; then they're crap. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 4:00:04 PM EDT
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Since you seem the really like the cbob, get that one.
DW makes nice pistols |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 4:36:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: the original goal was a decent wwII colt...but my buddy who is a 1911 snob kinda pointed me in the direction of the more modern semi customs but he is not opposed to the old war colts...thats why im kinda in limbo, but dont see myself getting both a vintage war piece AND a new semi custom...its one or the other Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: snip the original goal was a decent wwII colt...but my buddy who is a 1911 snob kinda pointed me in the direction of the more modern semi customs but he is not opposed to the old war colts...thats why im kinda in limbo, but dont see myself getting both a vintage war piece AND a new semi custom...its one or the other For instance, vintage 60's Gold Cup National Matches which at one time were nice, but not THAT expensive are now pushing 2-3 grand depending on condition. More beat up ones are at a more accessible price. Interwar commercial guns between WW1 and WW2 are the same way. While your buddy might be a 1911 snob, ask yourself does that help you, or hurt you? If you're looking for a collector gun since you're not really that interested in shooting 1911's or have a huge desire to invest the time to maximize their abilities then the merits of a modern semi-custom, the part you're paying for won't be of much benefit. Vs spending more for something like a vintage NIB gun, or big bucks for a Turnbull restoration which will be beautiful, and carry value long term. The benefit of getting a vintage gun, is that it will increase in value as other vintage guns are lost or destroyed, or become more desirable. You can always get a cheap beater 1911 for a couple hundred bucks later if you want a shooter. The detriment is that hard use will depreciate it's value, and it won't have the nice modern features of most semi-customs. The benefit of getting a modern semi-custom is it will retain some value, and be a great shooter/ carry gun if you decide that you want to blast away with it. Some may or may not appreciate in value, most will depreciate but it seems like it's not by much. The main detriment is that when it comes to show and tell, when you pull out a high end semi-custom, and another dude pulls out a 30's royal blue NIB Colt, you're going to look at your gun and wonder why you bought it. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 4:40:36 PM EDT
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Start out with a Springfield. This. Or Colt. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 4:41:03 PM EDT
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My Smith & Wesson was flawless. Until the incident 
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Posted: 4/30/2015 4:43:14 PM EDT
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Start out with a Springfield. This. My TRP is a machine |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 5:07:39 PM EDT
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Best option in Cali seems to be the Springfields - I'd get the mid-grade (~$950-999) stainless model although the low-end one seemed Ok except for the pinned-in front sight. Been shopping these for ages with a buddy who's also stuck in Kalifornia.
I'd strongly suggest getting a basic model to play around with before going big on a multi-K-buck exotic. YMMV, etc, Richard |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 5:23:05 PM EDT
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It's almost like no one has read the OP's desires.
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Posted: 4/30/2015 5:32:26 PM EDT
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Springfield RO, Wilson Combat mags, and Harrison sights
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Posted: 4/30/2015 5:39:47 PM EDT
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It's almost like no one has read the OP's desires. i found your insight helpful...i think i will look for the wwII colt but keep my eyes open for a wilson, nighthawk, les baer, or ed brown. if a super smoking ppt opportunity arises for either, i will just have to get both. i think i am equally torn so i have to satisfy both wants equally. thanks for everyones input..i will pass on the dan wesson. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 6:14:23 PM EDT
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Have you had a lot of chances to shoot a variety of 1911's? Every different manufacturer has a little different feel, some subtle, some not. If there is a way to rent, or borrow a couple differnt ones it might help cement where on the spectrum from collector grade to practice you want to be. I.E. "OMG I hate 1911's I'll just get a collector piece" or "OMG I get it now, I need a gun that can take the 40K rounds I'm going to put on it".
Or, in between those two! |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 6:16:22 PM EDT
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Buy a ruger. Very accurate, good trigger....great price. Ignore the mim parts bashers....you ain't carrying it and you won't shoot it apart. This. Not a 1911 fan, but I am a fan of Ruger firearms. If I wanted another 1911 I would buy an SR1911. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 6:20:54 PM EDT
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Buy a cheapie and rebuild it at a NRA Summer gunsmithing 1911 class. I took one years ago at Lassen College and will be taking another.
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Posted: 4/30/2015 6:21:46 PM EDT
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Have you had a lot of chances to shoot a variety of 1911's? Every different manufacturer has a little different feel, some subtle, some not. If there is a way to rent, or borrow a couple differnt ones it might help cement where on the spectrum from collector grade to practice you want to be. I.E. "OMG I hate 1911's I'll just get a collector piece" or "OMG I get it now, I need a gun that can take the 40K rounds I'm going to put on it".
Or, in between those two! nope...havent shot 1911's much...maybe two different models over 15yrs ago...nothing since. 1 para ordnance p10 compact 1 springfield compact full custom carry thats about it. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 6:34:00 PM EDT
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It's almost like no one has read the OP's desires. Glock guy 
Desires, Having vs Wanting.................... 
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Posted: 4/30/2015 6:40:05 PM EDT
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If I was OP, I would try and track down a 60-70's era National Match Colt, or Colt Gold Cup.
That way he can shoot it a little bit, but mostly look at it. If he's not a 1911 guy, he's not gonna need a gun built for high volume. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 6:43:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: nope...havent shot 1911's much...maybe two different models over 15yrs ago...nothing since. 1 para ordnance p10 compact 1 springfield compact full custom carry thats about it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Have you had a lot of chances to shoot a variety of 1911's? Every different manufacturer has a little different feel, some subtle, some not. If there is a way to rent, or borrow a couple differnt ones it might help cement where on the spectrum from collector grade to practice you want to be. I.E. "OMG I hate 1911's I'll just get a collector piece" or "OMG I get it now, I need a gun that can take the 40K rounds I'm going to put on it". Or, in between those two! nope...havent shot 1911's much...maybe two different models over 15yrs ago...nothing since. 1 para ordnance p10 compact 1 springfield compact full custom carry thats about it. Even $500 RIA 1911's now, are pretty shit hot compared to some brands 15 years ago. In the same time some brands that were the heat 15 years ago are ho-hum now after sacrificing quality for quantity. I have not been on it for a long time, so at this point I can't vouch for it as strongly as I would have a few years ago, but it might be worth digging around on 1911forum and at least see what people are either hyping up or complaining about as a weather gauge. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 6:44:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I was OP, I would try and track down a 60-70's era National Match Colt, or Colt Gold Cup. That way he can shoot it a little bit, but mostly look at it. If he's not a 1911 guy, he's not gonna need a gun built for high volume. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 6:48:31 PM EDT
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Start out with a Springfield. This, see avatar. On the other hand, I think the DW 1911's are on par with most of the semi custom market, like the Wilsons,Baers, and Nighthawks. A DW 1911 is on my list of must haves. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 6:48:38 PM EDT
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Gotcha! If you're in an area with a rental range, I would try a few different 1911's out for sure, as what you're talking about getting into is a pretty different world.
Even $500 RIA 1911's now, are pretty shit hot compared to some brands 15 years ago. In the same time some brands that were the heat 15 years ago are ho-hum now after sacrificing quality for quantity. I have not been on it for a long time, so at this point I can't vouch for it as strongly as I would have a few years ago, but it might be worth digging around on 1911forum and at least see what people are either hyping up or complaining about as a weather gauge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Have you had a lot of chances to shoot a variety of 1911's? Every different manufacturer has a little different feel, some subtle, some not. If there is a way to rent, or borrow a couple differnt ones it might help cement where on the spectrum from collector grade to practice you want to be. I.E. "OMG I hate 1911's I'll just get a collector piece" or "OMG I get it now, I need a gun that can take the 40K rounds I'm going to put on it".
Or, in between those two! nope...havent shot 1911's much...maybe two different models over 15yrs ago...nothing since. 1 para ordnance p10 compact 1 springfield compact full custom carry thats about it.
Even $500 RIA 1911's now, are pretty shit hot compared to some brands 15 years ago. In the same time some brands that were the heat 15 years ago are ho-hum now after sacrificing quality for quantity. I have not been on it for a long time, so at this point I can't vouch for it as strongly as I would have a few years ago, but it might be worth digging around on 1911forum and at least see what people are either hyping up or complaining about as a weather gauge. +1. CNC has almost eliminated much difference in stock 1911's. I have a ATI that I got from PSA for $279 that will shoot just as well as a Colt Gold Cup I picked up in the early 1980's. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 6:53:41 PM EDT
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Just had this Range Officer roll in today, excited to shoot it, have to lighten up the factory 8lb trigger, opted to upgrade to the 10 round Wilson mags vs the 9 round Springfield ones.
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Posted: 4/30/2015 6:56:27 PM EDT
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Didn't realize DW 1911s were that expensive, never looked into them. I like my Ruger but don't think it's on the approved list.
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Posted: 4/30/2015 6:59:46 PM EDT
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Won't recommend a brand, there are lots of good ones out there. Personally, I don't like bobtails, so I'd stay with the standard. One thing, though. Try out both the flat and arched mainspring housings to see if you have a preference. My EDC is flat, and I don't like it much, I prefer the arched, it points just a little better for me. The flat was the original design, the A1 was arched. The Colt Gold Cup, as far as I know, was always and only available in the flat style. Now everybody makes them that way. May not be a big deal, but if one points better for you, it might be. I'd hate to have you reject the 1911 because you only tried the one that doesn't fit your hand well. For a $30-$40 part the MSH shouldn't be a dealbreaker. Decide which one you like. Now decide what 1911 is the one you want. Change the MSH if necessary and put the old one on the EE for $25. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 6:59:50 PM EDT
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Different forums have different "darlings" that everyone loves; and "goats" that everyone loves to hate on, but there are plenty of great choices in 1911s at all price points these days.
These two have been exemplary for me. S&W E Series 1911TA and SIG 1911 Super Target Nitron. 
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Posted: 4/30/2015 7:02:18 PM EDT
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I know a guy who has a Kimber 1911 as his duty weapon. THAT. FUCKING. THING. CHOKES. EVERY. TIME. HE. QUALIFIES., OR. TRAINS. WITH. IT. $1,400 boat anchor. 1911's are awesome in video games, not in reality. There's a problem with his gun, and it's one of the two parts of the gun's name. Kimber 1911. The problem's not the 1911 part. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 7:04:12 PM EDT
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There's a problem with his gun, and it's one of the two parts of the gun's name. Kimber 1911. The problem's not the 1911 part. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know a guy who has a Kimber 1911 as his duty weapon. THAT. FUCKING. THING. CHOKES. EVERY. TIME. HE. QUALIFIES., OR. TRAINS. WITH. IT. $1,400 boat anchor. 1911's are awesome in video games, not in reality. There's a problem with his gun, and it's one of the two parts of the gun's name. Kimber 1911. The problem's not the 1911 part. WOW, Kimber looks like it's going Para Ordance |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 7:05:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Different forums have different "darlings" that everyone loves; and "goats" that everyone loves to hate on, but there are plenty of great choices in 1911s at all price points these days. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 7:14:48 PM EDT
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I know a guy who has a Kimber 1911 as his duty weapon. THAT. FUCKING. THING. CHOKES. EVERY. TIME. HE. QUALIFIES., OR. TRAINS. WITH. IT. $1,400 boat anchor. 1911's are awesome in video games, not in reality. There's a problem with his gun, and it's one of the two parts of the gun's name. Kimber 1911. The problem's not the 1911 part. WOW, Kimber looks like it's going Para Ordance Want a really good 1911? What I want is Kimber's looks, RIA's reliability and somewhere in between for the price point. Yeah, not gonna happen. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 7:23:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/30/2015 7:32:38 PM EDT
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I know a guy who has a Kimber 1911 as his duty weapon. THAT. FUCKING. THING. CHOKES. EVERY. TIME. HE. QUALIFIES., OR. TRAINS. WITH. IT. $1,400 boat anchor. 1911's are awesome in video games, not in reality. There's a problem with his gun, and it's one of the two parts of the gun's name. Kimber 1911. The problem's not the 1911 part. WOW, Kimber looks like it's going Para Ordance I know a guy whose Kimber gave him warts, made his crops shrivel and die, and eventually turned him into a horned goat. This I have seen with my own eyes. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 7:39:29 PM EDT
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I would recommend Springfield if they are legal in Kalifornia, if not the Ruger would have to be good to go. They are not nearly as pricey as those other ones you are looking at too op. Smith and Wesson E Series are really nice too imo.
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Posted: 4/30/2015 7:42:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI first thought of STI/SVI but op lives in Kali 
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Posted: 4/30/2015 7:53:20 PM EDT
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What's the verdict on Sig Sauer 1911s? I know they aren't "true" 1911s according to some, but I was tempted by one recently. Google-fu seems to show some have issues while others just keep on going. Seems to be a real love/hate pistol. -p. I have 2 SIGS 1911s . One runs like a raped ape and the other works like a FSA community organizer. The FSA one was a very early SIG 1911. Extremely accurate, but has hiccups after 1 to 2 mags. I havekept it since it was a factory preowned at a great price. I think i paid $375 for it in 2007. The other one just eats ammo , its a a TACOPS with a factory threaded barrel. Damn thing gets expensive shooting that one. It will make boxes of ammo disappear in short order. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 8:01:57 PM EDT
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I know a guy who has a Kimber 1911 as his duty weapon. THAT. FUCKING. THING. CHOKES. EVERY. TIME. HE. QUALIFIES., OR. TRAINS. WITH. IT. $1,400 boat anchor. 1911's are awesome in video games, not in reality. There's a problem with his gun, and it's one of the two parts of the gun's name. Kimber 1911. The problem's not the 1911 part. WOW, Kimber looks like it's going Para Ordance Except most of these people have never owned one. It's like the friend of the friend that lives in Canada. I met her at Niagra Falls. You wouldnt know her, but her Kimber once FTF. See, I'm important, I know stuff about clips and stuff. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 8:04:41 PM EDT
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No way I'd pay 1600 for a CBOB. You can get a Valor for that much. |
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