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Posted: 4/29/2015 6:16:35 AM EDT
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Id like to see him stand before his peers...and be shot.
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Posted: 4/29/2015 6:17:56 AM EDT
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Only thing I want to see of him is the starring role in an ISIS video. Bet he'd look nice in orange. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 6:18:12 AM EDT
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Id like to see him stand before his peers...and be shot. FPNI |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 6:19:24 AM EDT
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Every year since America's current overseas wars began 14 years ago, hundreds of Army soldiers have abandoned their units — almost 6,000 since 2001. More than 5,000 have been convicted of desertion or being absent without leave, and most were thrown out of the Army. Yet few of those soldiers end up with the type of sentence confronting Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who could receive from five years up to life in prison if convicted of desertion and misbehavior charges. The Army has routinely allowed soldiers to plead guilty to lesser charges in administrative actions that allow them to avoid prison time in return for their dismissal on other than honorable discharges. Few, if any, of those desertion cases attracted the national attention focused on the dramatic tale of Bergdahl, who walked away from his remote combat outpost in Afghanistan in 2009 and was captured by insurgents who held him prisoner for five years. http://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-a-case-nobody-wants-to-see-go-to-trial-1.342894 That's because most don't dessert and run to the enemy getting fellow soldiers hurt and killed. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 6:21:36 AM EDT
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If they didn't want to try him, maybe we shouldn't have traded a handful of terrorists for him in the first place. Now, he should get a fair trial, and be shot.
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Posted: 4/29/2015 6:23:21 AM EDT
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That's because most don't dessert and run to the enemy getting fellow soldiers hurt and killed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Every year since America's current overseas wars began 14 years ago, hundreds of Army soldiers have abandoned their units — almost 6,000 since 2001. More than 5,000 have been convicted of desertion or being absent without leave, and most were thrown out of the Army. Yet few of those soldiers end up with the type of sentence confronting Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who could receive from five years up to life in prison if convicted of desertion and misbehavior charges. The Army has routinely allowed soldiers to plead guilty to lesser charges in administrative actions that allow them to avoid prison time in return for their dismissal on other than honorable discharges. Few, if any, of those desertion cases attracted the national attention focused on the dramatic tale of Bergdahl, who walked away from his remote combat outpost in Afghanistan in 2009 and was captured by insurgents who held him prisoner for five years. http://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-a-case-nobody-wants-to-see-go-to-trial-1.342894 That's because most don't dessert and run to the enemy getting fellow soldiers hurt and killed. Mmmmmm..... dessert. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 6:25:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Id like to see him stand before his peers...and be shot. FPNI |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 6:30:53 AM EDT
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How many of those 6000 were responsible for getting soldiers killed looking for them?
Hang the fucker. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 6:34:37 AM EDT
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I'm no Soldier, neither Sailor, Marine, Airman, or Coast Guardsman. Never have been.
But goddamn, I want to see that prick get a fair trial and a fair hanging. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 6:35:40 AM EDT
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He was captured? Hmmm....
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Posted: 4/29/2015 6:44:05 AM EDT
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How many of those 6000 were responsible for getting soldiers killed looking for them? Hang the fucker. No shit. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 6:46:26 AM EDT
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there's guys in Leavenworth who did lesser crimes than Bergdahl.
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Posted: 4/29/2015 6:52:10 AM EDT
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There doesn't need to be a trial, if he wants to go ahead and plead guilty now.
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Posted: 4/29/2015 6:57:08 AM EDT
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Id like to see him stand before his peers...and be shot. FPNI Yup. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:00:33 AM EDT
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I still think the guy went to the other side voluntarily. Treason and the appropriate punishment.
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:06:16 AM EDT
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If found guilty as charged, he deserves to die more than anyone has ever.
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:13:55 AM EDT
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How many of those 6000 were responsible for getting soldiers killed looking for them? Hang the fucker. This. It's one thing to run off to Mexico with a coked-out hooker, or get a full time gig making meth off-post in the states. But to bail in an actual combat zone should be punished by death. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:17:21 AM EDT
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The opening paragraph of the article is a little deceptive, saying that thousands have soldiers have abandoned their units during this long war. If you read down, only 41 and 150 left while deployed in Afganistan and Iraq respectively. So, not everyone is doing it.
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:17:43 AM EDT
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If they didn't want to try him, maybe we shouldn't have traded a handful of terrorists for him in the first place. Now, he should get a fair trial, and be shot. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:18:57 AM EDT
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Who is pushing their agenda with this article? It would be interesting to see who this article was forwarded to and signed off on this article before it was published.
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:20:48 AM EDT
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I still think the guy went to the other side voluntarily. Treason and the appropriate punishment. So does everyone else, (and unless I'm mistaken) that includes the Army. Choot'em. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:25:21 AM EDT
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The opening paragraph of the article is a little deceptive, saying that thousands have soldiers have abandoned their units during this long war. If you read down, only 41 and 150 left while deployed in Afganistan and Iraq respectively. So, not everyone is doing it. How many of those 41 and 150 went on R&R leave and never came back? I'm guessing every single one. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:27:20 AM EDT
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Quoted: Every year since America's current overseas wars began 14 years ago, hundreds of Army soldiers have abandoned their units — almost 6,000 since 2001. More than 5,000 have been convicted of desertion or being absent without leave, and most were thrown out of the Army. How many did it in the face of the enemy? |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:27:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Id like to see him stand before his peers...and be shot. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:31:21 AM EDT
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How many of those 6000 were responsible for getting soldiers killed looking for them? Hang the fucker. This. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:43:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's because most don't dessert and run to the enemy getting fellow soldiers hurt and killed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Every year since America's current overseas wars began 14 years ago, hundreds of Army soldiers have abandoned their units — almost 6,000 since 2001. More than 5,000 have been convicted of desertion or being absent without leave, and most were thrown out of the Army. Yet few of those soldiers end up with the type of sentence confronting Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who could receive from five years up to life in prison if convicted of desertion and misbehavior charges. The Army has routinely allowed soldiers to plead guilty to lesser charges in administrative actions that allow them to avoid prison time in return for their dismissal on other than honorable discharges. Few, if any, of those desertion cases attracted the national attention focused on the dramatic tale of Bergdahl, who walked away from his remote combat outpost in Afghanistan in 2009 and was captured by insurgents who held him prisoner for five years. http://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-a-case-nobody-wants-to-see-go-to-trial-1.342894 That's because most don't dessert and run to the enemy getting fellow soldiers hurt and killed. Seems like they're trying to equate AWOL stateside to desertion on the battlefield. Might as well try to compare apples to fucking tires. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:44:43 AM EDT
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Every year since America's current overseas wars began 14 years ago, Is this supposed to subtly imply that military folks just started going AWOL 14 years ago? It's been going on as long as there has been a military. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:47:45 AM EDT
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Note the source: S&S is not the mil-friendly paper they pretend to be.
In fact, as this article shows, quite the opposite: we quickly went from over 6,000 "desertions" (which were actually "just" AWOLs) to less than 200 going missing while deployed (Iraq and Afghanistan) and this was in a 15 year period: works out to about 400/12 per year out of what was a deployed force of something like 150,000 or so. While I have never seen a person actually desert, it is not uncommon for a soldier to "go missing" for a short period of time (hours), commonly do to a family or similar problem. Example: a female "went missing" on one of the bases we were on; she failed to report for duty. They found her an hour or so later crying in a shower: bad news from home. So, as you can see, we did not have over 6,000 soldiers "deserting" (but rather missing movement) and I would bet that most of those 200ish that occurred in theater were as described above: personnel who went missing for a short period of time but were far from "deserting". |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:48:14 AM EDT
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The opening paragraph of the article is a little deceptive, saying that thousands have soldiers have abandoned their units during this long war. If you read down, only 41 and 150 left while deployed in Afganistan and Iraq respectively. So, not everyone is doing it. That makes more sense. I was going to say something is wrong with the selection process if there were hundreds a year. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:53:16 AM EDT
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Mmmmmm..... dessert. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Every year since America's current overseas wars began 14 years ago, hundreds of Army soldiers have abandoned their units — almost 6,000 since 2001. More than 5,000 have been convicted of desertion or being absent without leave, and most were thrown out of the Army. Yet few of those soldiers end up with the type of sentence confronting Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who could receive from five years up to life in prison if convicted of desertion and misbehavior charges. The Army has routinely allowed soldiers to plead guilty to lesser charges in administrative actions that allow them to avoid prison time in return for their dismissal on other than honorable discharges. Few, if any, of those desertion cases attracted the national attention focused on the dramatic tale of Bergdahl, who walked away from his remote combat outpost in Afghanistan in 2009 and was captured by insurgents who held him prisoner for five years. http://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-a-case-nobody-wants-to-see-go-to-trial-1.342894 That's because most don't dessert and run to the enemy getting fellow soldiers hurt and killed. Mmmmmm..... dessert. Fuck you auto correct Fuck you in the goat ass |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 7:55:28 AM EDT
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there's guys in Leavenworth who did lesser crimes than Bergdahl. 87% of the guys in Leavenworth did lesser crimes. Read the Army times. The stuff that will get you imprisoned under UCMJ, will make your head spin. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 8:14:30 AM EDT
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Article title is more fucked that Jenna Jameson.
Most of my friends that know about Berghdal and EVERY VETERAN AND CURRENTLY SERVING SERVICEMAN I HAVE EVER ASKED ABOUT BERGDAHL want him to go to trial. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 8:14:48 AM EDT
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Id like to see him stand before his peers...and be shot. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 8:18:49 AM EDT
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Seems like they're trying to equate AWOL stateside to desertion on the battlefield. Might as well try to compare apples to fucking tires. It's the MSM. What do you expect them to do? Throw Berghdal under the bus and smear Obama in the same piece (because Berg's parents were seen with POTUS, etc)? Nope. they are going to continue to suck cock. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 8:19:51 AM EDT
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87% of the guys in Leavenworth did lesser crimes. Read the Army times. The stuff that will get you imprisoned under UCMJ, will make your head spin. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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there's guys in Leavenworth who did lesser crimes than Bergdahl. 87% of the guys in Leavenworth did lesser crimes. Read the Army times. The stuff that will get you imprisoned under UCMJ, will make your head spin. Technically you can be imprisoned for pretty much anything under the UCMJ. There's even a "catch all" that is used to mop up after really odd/stupid/not explicitly covered dumb-assery. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 8:21:18 AM EDT
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Every year since America's current overseas wars began 14 years ago, hundreds of Army soldiers have abandoned their units — almost 6,000 since 2001. More than 5,000 have been convicted of desertion or being absent without leave, and most were thrown out of the Army. Yet few of those soldiers end up with the type of sentence confronting Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who could receive from five years up to life in prison if convicted of desertion and misbehavior charges. The Army has routinely allowed soldiers to plead guilty to lesser charges in administrative actions that allow them to avoid prison time in return for their dismissal on other than honorable discharges. Few, if any, of those desertion cases attracted the national attention focused on the dramatic tale of Bergdahl, who walked away from his remote combat outpost in Afghanistan in 2009 and was captured by insurgents who held him prisoner for five years. http://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-a-case-nobody-wants-to-see-go-to-trial-1.342894 Captured? No he gave aid and comfort to the enemy. 
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Posted: 4/29/2015 8:22:33 AM EDT
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This case is a huge problem for the Administration (and, therefore, the high ranking Obama ball-lickers).
If the ugly story comes out that he walked out of camp and into the arms of the Taliban--and the Army knew it, then, the Administration knew it when they swapped terrorists for a traitor. Now, most of us wouldn't be shocked to find out this is the case and Obama did it anyway. But a trial will still be ugly for the Administration. Especially with for SoS running for Pres. TC |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 8:34:34 AM EDT
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There doesn't need to be a trial, if he wants to go ahead and plead guilty now. He lacks the courage of his convictions to do that. Instead, his defense will attempt to show the command climate as "unfair" and "harsh". The conditions to austere and his squad leader mean spirited. Clearly, he had no other choice than to mail all his belongings home, leave his weapon and gear behind, then bravely head out on foot to the next camp to report all the wrong doings of his NCOs and the Officers appointed over them. Not his fault he was captured by the Taliban. <sarcasm> As disgusting has his actions were, we will be treated to a more disgusting court sideshow. The brave souls lost and injured in an attempt to finds him will be pushed aside while the focus will be on his feelings. Disgusting. That fucker Hasan an unrepentant POS. B-boy won't take accountability for what he did, his defense will be that he was the victim. Death is too good for him. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 8:35:43 AM EDT
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FPNI
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Posted: 4/29/2015 8:51:29 AM EDT
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Every year since America's current overseas wars began 14 years ago, hundreds of Army soldiers have abandoned their units — almost 6,000 since 2001. More than 5,000 have been convicted of desertion or being absent without leave, and most were thrown out of the Army. Yet few of those soldiers end up with the type of sentence confronting Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who could receive from five years up to life in prison if convicted of desertion and misbehavior charges. The Army has routinely allowed soldiers to plead guilty to lesser charges in administrative actions that allow them to avoid prison time in return for their dismissal on other than honorable discharges. Few, if any, of those desertion cases attracted the national attention focused on the dramatic tale of Bergdahl, who walked away from his remote combat outpost in Afghanistan in 2009 and was captured by insurgents who held him prisoner for five years. http://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-a-case-nobody-wants-to-see-go-to-trial-1.342894 Most deserters didn't get fellow soldiers killed trying to find/rescue their dumb ass. ETA: Covered ad nauseum already. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 8:58:21 AM EDT
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Oh, but he wasn't deserting, guys.
His lawyer says that he was trying to walk to another base in order to blow the whistle on misconduct in his unit. Dude's a hero! |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 9:03:58 AM EDT
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Side note on Bergdahl I haven't seen mentioned in the media.
I finished reading ‘The Outpost’ by Jake Tapper recently. Combat Outpost Keating, Nuristan Province, Afghanistan was overrun by Taliban on 09 OCT 09. In that attack EIGHT US SOLDIERS WERE KILLED AND 27 WOUNDED. US KIA: Justin T. Gallegos, Christopher Griffin, Kevin C. Thomson, Michael P. Scusa, Vernon W. Martin, Stephan L. Mace, Joshua J. Kirk and Joshua M. Hardt. Staff Sergeant Clinton Romesha and Staff Sergeant Ty Carter were awarded the Medal of Honor for their actions during the battle. On 10 OCT 09, General McChrystal ordered a 15-6 investigation into what when wrong at Combat Outpost Keating. AR 15-6 Investigation COP Keating Attack, Department of the Army, Major General Guy Swan III In the official report as to why the “OBVIOUSLY INDEFENSIBLE” high risk COP had NOT been closed three reason were given: 1. The need for additional security for the Afghan elections 2. Siege at Barg-e-Matal 3. INCREASED OPERATIONS SEARCHING FOR MIA ARMY PVT. BOWE BERGDAHL. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 9:12:54 AM EDT
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He was captured? Hmmm.... while he was surrendering |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 9:14:55 AM EDT
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I still think the guy went to the other side voluntarily. Treason and the appropriate punishment. This, and punishment = death. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 9:18:17 AM EDT
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That's because most don't dessert and run to the enemy getting fellow soldiers hurt and killed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Every year since America's current overseas wars began 14 years ago, hundreds of Army soldiers have abandoned their units — almost 6,000 since 2001. More than 5,000 have been convicted of desertion or being absent without leave, and most were thrown out of the Army. Yet few of those soldiers end up with the type of sentence confronting Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who could receive from five years up to life in prison if convicted of desertion and misbehavior charges. The Army has routinely allowed soldiers to plead guilty to lesser charges in administrative actions that allow them to avoid prison time in return for their dismissal on other than honorable discharges. Few, if any, of those desertion cases attracted the national attention focused on the dramatic tale of Bergdahl, who walked away from his remote combat outpost in Afghanistan in 2009 and was captured by insurgents who held him prisoner for five years. http://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-a-case-nobody-wants-to-see-go-to-trial-1.342894 That's because most don't dessert and run to the enemy getting fellow soldiers hurt and killed. This. Fuck Private Bergdahl. He's no brother of mine. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 9:22:25 AM EDT
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If I had to guess, I'd say an overwhelming majority of the U.S. military wants Bergdahl to stand trial. It's only the political animals at the top that just want this to go away.
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Posted: 4/29/2015 9:52:32 AM EDT
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Id like to see him stand before his peers...and be shot. Same goes for those who traded 5 terrorists for him.
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Posted: 4/29/2015 10:00:36 AM EDT
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Nice try, trying to link the desertion in combat TO THE ENEMY and lesser shitheads going AWOL. What a obvious deviation from fair and truthful reporting.
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Posted: 4/29/2015 10:08:53 AM EDT
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Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, 'a case nobody wants to see go to trial' So, who exactly is saying nobody want this case to go to trial??? Seems everyone here and pretty much everyone in uniform wants to see this turd tried, publically flogged, then strung up. |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 10:13:54 AM EDT
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How many in those numbers are IET Soldiers? Based upon casual observation they go AWOL a lot.
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