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Link Posted: 4/26/2015 9:33:04 PM EDT
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FL on all my shit.



Like butter.




How about some pictures of FLapocalypse I'd like to see that shit.






Link Posted: 4/26/2015 9:34:13 PM EDT
[#2]
For the AK = RIG grease painted on the rail and bolt with a small brush from an electric razor kit that bit the dust years ago. CLP on the FCG pins. Light coat of BC Barricade sprayed on the interior/exterior and wiped down.

For AR = RIG grease on BC. CLP on FCG pins and bolt. Light coat of BC Barricade sprayed on exterior and wiped off.

Cleaning = Hoppe's #9 bore cleaner or Ballistol for corrosive using an Otis kit.

RIG is such a lightweight grease that it's almost an oil and stays where you put it. YMMV, but it's always worked for me.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 9:37:27 PM EDT
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I must be one of the lucky ones( or know how to follow directions)

Used it on my 1911, went to a 3gun basic skills class where there was sand blowing everywhere.

I'm convinced it ran as well as it did because the FL wasn't thick enough to grab every particle of sand.

Did end up having to knock into battery last few shots because there was just that much sand in it.

Link Posted: 4/26/2015 9:41:18 PM EDT
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Full synthetic motor oil does everything those expensive oils at the gun stores do, and costs way less per fl oz.  

People take this shit way too seriously. All your doing is applying a liquid that makes the surface slippery so the parts move freely. IT'S SIMPLE.
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I swear to God that lube threads are created by people with nothing else going on in their lives. "Using standard military tested and proven lubes is too simple! I need to find a Lubrication System™ that fits my lifestyle! Hopefully it will require special application techniques and lots of extra work for marginal gains of slipperiness!"

Look at the completely asinine lubrication thread in the Sig handgun forum Really? This service pistol has been function just fine for conscripts for decades before that thread and "technique" were created. A shining example of schmoes over thinking something so simple.  

It's lube, not fucking rocket science.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 9:41:55 PM EDT
[#5]
I'm not sure what will happen, but I used a combination of CLP and 50wt synthetic oil that I had left over from my supercharger this time.. The oil seemed  little thick for my liking, but it's going into summer so we shall see. Pretty sure it won't cycle at all based on some of the posts here, but I'm pretty sure the worst that it would happen is that I have to really clean the bolt earlier than I would, but crazier stuff has happened.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 9:45:37 PM EDT
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Good to know. Reminds me a need a better way of dealing with the Mobile 1 than sticking my finger in the quart bottle.
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Put it in an old contact lens solution bottle.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 9:52:43 PM EDT
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Put it in an old contact lens solution bottle.
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Good to know. Reminds me a need a better way of dealing with the Mobile 1 than sticking my finger in the quart bottle.


Put it in an old contact lens solution bottle.

How will sticking his finger in a contact lens bottle help?
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 9:53:19 PM EDT
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Good to know. Reminds me a need a better way of dealing with the Mobile 1 than sticking my finger in the quart bottle.


Put it in an old contact lens solution bottle.


I slopped it on with a Q tip, since I had them handy. Worked fine for me.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 10:05:45 PM EDT
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I had the same results. Fireclean got really gummy in a few weeks as well. I'm done with all the wonderlubes. I use G96 aerosol triple treatment for cleaning and G96 CLP (only current TRUE mil-spec) for lubing. If I need grease is TW25b.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 10:06:47 PM EDT
[#10]
I've been using Frog lube for a few years with no issues whatsoever.


YMMV.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 10:07:03 PM EDT
[#11]
Plain ol'  Breakfree CLP works for me
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 10:22:30 PM EDT
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By heat the metal up, it opens the pores of the steel to allow the frog lube to soak in


Buy into it, it's the truth

It's on the directions  
 


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How does heating the metal change anything? Maybe I did not heat it enough?

I simply do not buy that it soaks into the pores of the metal.



By heat the metal up, it opens the pores of the steel to allow the frog lube to soak in


Buy into it, it's the truth

It's on the directions  
 








If your metal has pores in it, then the people that made it didn't do it right.  I'm just sayin'.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 10:40:49 PM EDT
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What the fuck is wrong with Hoppes?  All you all experimental type just keep wasting your time.  You're taking up arfcom space.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 10:52:45 PM EDT
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That vid is ridiculous.  Who needs a heat gun to lubricate a firearm?  I need a lube I can apply and shoot.  I can clean and relube an AR four times in the time he spends applying his magical mint garbage lube.  I've never used any of these expensive uber-lubes and my guns run.    If your using a heat gun to prep your gun for application you have too much time on your hands.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 10:56:27 PM EDT
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What about if it's just surface porosity and surface irregularities in the crystal structure that is described in the non-technical catch all phrase "metal pores"?



 
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 10:59:12 PM EDT
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Slip 2000 for me please
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:02:06 PM EDT
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Full synthetic motor oil does everything those expensive oils at the gun stores do, and costs way less per fl oz.  



People take this shit way too seriously. All your doing is applying a liquid that makes the surface slippery so the parts move freely. IT'S SIMPLE.

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This.

 






Bought a quart of Mobil 1 probably two years ago. Still have over half and it works as good as anything else.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:03:07 PM EDT
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Have you tried Hornady One Shot?

It's the bomb dank.

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This. It's the best.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:03:07 PM EDT
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Here's what a dealer in Canada has to say about it:





No one uses flog lube anymore, don't feel bad we all fell for it...

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Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:05:15 PM EDT
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I swear to God that lube threads are created by people with nothing else going on in their lives. "Using standard military tested and proven lubes is too simple! I need to find a Lubrication System™ that fits my lifestyle! Hopefully it will require special application techniques and lots of extra work for marginal gains of slipperiness!"



Look at the completely asinine lubrication thread in the Sig handgun forum Really? This service pistol has been function just fine for conscripts for decades before that thread and "technique" were created. A shining example of schmoes over thinking something so simple.  



It's lube, not fucking rocket science.
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Full synthetic motor oil does everything those expensive oils at the gun stores do, and costs way less per fl oz.  



People take this shit way too seriously. All your doing is applying a liquid that makes the surface slippery so the parts move freely. IT'S SIMPLE.







I swear to God that lube threads are created by people with nothing else going on in their lives. "Using standard military tested and proven lubes is too simple! I need to find a Lubrication System™ that fits my lifestyle! Hopefully it will require special application techniques and lots of extra work for marginal gains of slipperiness!"



Look at the completely asinine lubrication thread in the Sig handgun forum Really? This service pistol has been function just fine for conscripts for decades before that thread and "technique" were created. A shining example of schmoes over thinking something so simple.  



It's lube, not fucking rocket science.


LOL.



 
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:07:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:09:20 PM EDT
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WeaponShield ftmfw!!!

Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:10:37 PM EDT
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Have you applied it and left it in the safe for 3 months and then tried to shoot it?
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Heat up the gun, apply, excess comes off and wipe with a microfiber clothe. Leaves a nice sheen.

While it can pool up in the corners, I have no idea how you all are getting these horrendous issues.
 


Have you applied it and left it in the safe for 3 months and then tried to shoot it?


Yes.  None of the issues mentioned in this thread presented themselves on a Glock 19 or 20.

Perhaps you laid it on too thick?

As for heating for application, if you could hold the part with your bare hands, it wasn't hot enough.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:16:35 PM EDT
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Yes.  None of the issues mentioned in this thread presented themselves on a Glock 19 or 20.

Perhaps you laid it on too thick?
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Heat up the gun, apply, excess comes off and wipe with a microfiber clothe. Leaves a nice sheen.

While it can pool up in the corners, I have no idea how you all are getting these horrendous issues.
 


Have you applied it and left it in the safe for 3 months and then tried to shoot it?


Yes.  None of the issues mentioned in this thread presented themselves on a Glock 19 or 20.

Perhaps you laid it on too thick?


Maybe you dont need to rotate a bolt on pistol...
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:18:11 PM EDT
[#25]
Never could understand using a lube that I couldn't use with other lubes, and had to take my time to apply it rather than squirting some oil in the gun and being done with it.  I do apply a small swipe of superlube grease to rails on certain pistols, or the contact points in the BCG, but its not needed, and I can also squirt any gun oil in with it at the range.

My go to oil is slip2000 ewl, but I've used Lucas gun oil, Royal Purple gun oil, CLP, and a few others and as far as cycling they all worked fine, some just stay put longer in the safe than others.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:19:08 PM EDT
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Fireclean is the only answer
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:19:43 PM EDT
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this
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:20:39 PM EDT
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Spray liberally with Eezox. It will strip the crap off, then dry and act as a dry lube. Works REALLY well. Also, you can lightly spray it inside polymer mags, wipe off the excess and let the rest dry. Makes the mags function like greased lightning and won't attract dust/ dirt.

Edit: used this stuff on my duty Sig P220.... completely eliminated the nasty flash-rusting I'd see after a shift in the rain.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:27:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:29:38 PM EDT
[#30]
CLP or Hoppes for cleaning and Slip 2000 EWL for lube

Might have to try out the Mobil 1 Synthetic as that would last me a long damn time
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:31:47 PM EDT
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+1. Good enough for a car, good enough for a gun.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:42:57 PM EDT
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I have used Frog Lube of and on. It sucks ass. CLP is just fine.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:52:14 PM EDT
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Frog Lube is repackaged deli slicer oil.  That's why it smells like mint and you can eat it.  It's a dumb product in a fancy bottle, overpriced for sale to people who want to believe in magic.
 
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Frog Lube is repackaged deli slicer oil.  That's why it smells like mint and you can eat it.  It's a dumb product in a fancy bottle, overpriced for sale to people who want to believe in magic.
 

Yep, Trac Lube. They use it in canneries meat processing plants, roller coasters,etc.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:53:17 PM EDT
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Froglube never gave me any problems. I switched back to CLP anyway.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:55:04 PM EDT
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Slip 2000 for me... or CLP
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+1



 
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:56:04 PM EDT
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So it can't be used in cold weather?  That would automatically scratch it off my list for around here.

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Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:56:36 PM EDT
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I have been running plain old break free CLP in my guns since I got my first AR15 over 10 years ago. I never had a problem with the action gumming up. Fancy lubricants are like diet pills. Snake oil.
 



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I just realized I have been using the stuff so long they have changed the product label since I started.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 11:58:14 PM EDT
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I'm affraid to google.  I'm picturing a guy trying to fuck a bullfrog and there's probably porn of this out there.

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Link Posted: 4/27/2015 12:06:39 AM EDT
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So it can't be used in cold weather?  That would automatically scratch it off my list for around here.

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So it can't be used in cold weather?  That would automatically scratch it off my list for around here.

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I'm not sure that's what he meant. Instructions are to heat up the metal before applying it. I used a hair dryer.

However, your point is valid as I've read about FL not doing well in the cold.
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 12:09:01 AM EDT
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I've been using it in my at for some time now. Still runs smooth. And I havet cleaned it for about 700-900rds. I add some lube sometimes. But that's it.
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 12:23:04 AM EDT
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http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/shop-accessories-supplies/liquid-squeeze-bottles/needle-oiler-bottles-prod44434.aspx You can buy them everywhere though.

I have something similar I bought from my LGS 10 years ago.
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 12:25:59 AM EDT
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Froglube and Fireclean turn to waxy shit in the cold (less than 32).

I've never had a failure with my Fireclean'd ACR in subzero temperatures, even if the bolt looked like it was seized up with wax.
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 12:28:23 AM EDT
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All of the frog lube guys/gals I've met at trade shows are good people, and they are fun to be next to at a show.

However, I use Slip EWL in my own rifle.
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 12:40:49 AM EDT
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Pour it in the cap then use your fingers
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Good to know. Reminds me a need a better way of dealing with the Mobile 1 than sticking my finger in the quart bottle.

Pour it in the cap then use your fingers


I use an old BF clp bottle
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 12:51:49 AM EDT
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He makes a good product and was a Cola Warrior West sponsor.
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+1 I've been really happy with it so far.
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 12:56:25 AM EDT
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damn right
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 12:58:40 AM EDT
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Regular Slip 2000, BF CLP, or FP-10 all work fine for my ARs, bolt actions, and polymer-framed pistols.



I use Lubriplate, Tetra, TW25b, or moly wheel bearing grease for applications that I like to use a grease: Metal-framed pistols(particularly alloy frames like SIG and Beretta 92), AK/SIG556 rails, M1/M1A actions, FAL, and pump actions.
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 7:52:47 AM EDT
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What about if it's just surface porosity and surface irregularities in the crystal structure that is described in the non-technical catch all phrase "metal pores"?
 
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The instructions specifically says heating it up opens the pores.

Surface irregularities, inherent in all surfaces don't open up with heat.  I only took one materials course with my engineering degree, and it was a long time ago, but I don't think metal has pores.

Lubricants adhere to the nooks and crannies of the irregular surface and decrease surface tension thereby reducing friction and making something lubricated.

Some minty liquid / paste does not get absorbed into pores in steel by heating it up with a hair drier.
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 7:54:15 AM EDT
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Yes.  None of the issues mentioned in this thread presented themselves on a Glock 19 or 20.

Perhaps you laid it on too thick?

As for heating for application, if you could hold the part with your bare hands, it wasn't hot enough.
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Heat up the gun, apply, excess comes off and wipe with a microfiber clothe. Leaves a nice sheen.

While it can pool up in the corners, I have no idea how you all are getting these horrendous issues.
 


Have you applied it and left it in the safe for 3 months and then tried to shoot it?


Yes.  None of the issues mentioned in this thread presented themselves on a Glock 19 or 20.

Perhaps you laid it on too thick?

As for heating for application, if you could hold the part with your bare hands, it wasn't hot enough.



I also have had no issues with any handguns I used it on. Only with 2 Ars and I have been using it for over a year.
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 7:59:00 AM EDT
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Regular Slip 2000, BF CLP, or FP-10 all work fine for my ARs, bolt actions, and polymer-framed pistols.

I use Lubriplate, Tetra, TW25b, or moly wheel bearing grease for applications that I like to use a grease: Metal-framed pistols(particularly alloy frames like SIG and Beretta 92), AK/SIG556 rails, M1/M1A actions, FAL, and pump actions.
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I started using grease on handguns, forget what it is called, sold by Brian Enos on his website, then switched to wheel bearing grease. That is what I am going back to. Never has a problem even after sitting in the safe for a year, still greased. It doesn't dry out.

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