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Posted: 4/26/2015 11:17:50 AM EDT
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FO, 87% of the reviews like this two caliber deal, recognizing availability of 1/2 the ammo, it is still available. Pistol is also GTG.
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Posted: 4/26/2015 11:18:59 AM EDT
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Sell the 22TCM conversion
Enjoy your 9mm 1911
Profit! |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 11:44:27 AM EDT
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Sell the 22TCM conversion Enjoy your 9mm 1911 Profit! I got plenty of 9mm handguns. I was mainly wanting thoughts on the 22tcm round and future availability |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 11:45:18 AM EDT
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how much?
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Posted: 4/26/2015 11:49:05 AM EDT
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how much? They're in the 650-700 range |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 11:57:28 AM EDT
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1911's are the best. Buy it. Post pics.
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Posted: 4/26/2015 12:10:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2015 12:12:11 PM EDT
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I really like mine. Both barrels are very accurate.
I say FO! |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 12:14:32 PM EDT
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I really like mine. Both barrels are very accurate. I say FO! Tcm ammo availability, what about reloading using 9mm brass? I h Ave been debating on a Tcm upper for my sbr |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 12:16:31 PM EDT
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Sell the 22TCM conversion Enjoy your 9mm 1911 Profit! Why the hell would you do that? .22TCM is an awesome cartridge. Punches through IIIA, gets 12" of penetration in gel and is extremely low recoil. OP: In my opinion, the only real problem with the RIA's is in the small parts. If you know a good 1911-smith and have the money, have them all replaced with Wilson/Brown/EGW/Guncrafter parts. |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 12:18:48 PM EDT
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Tcm ammo availability, what about reloading using 9mm brass? I h Ave been debating on a Tcm upper for my sbr Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I really like mine. Both barrels are very accurate. I say FO! Tcm ammo availability, what about reloading using 9mm brass? I h Ave been debating on a Tcm upper for my sbr 9mm brass does not work. You can cut .223 brass down and make it into .22TCM though. Or, you know, just get .22TCM brass... |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 12:19:14 PM EDT
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Tcm ammo availability, what about reloading using 9mm brass? I h Ave been debating on a Tcm upper for my sbr Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I really like mine. Both barrels are very accurate. I say FO! Tcm ammo availability, what about reloading using 9mm brass? I h Ave been debating on a Tcm upper for my sbr 9mm brass is too short, 223 brass is what you need |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 12:21:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOh, look, a gun that shoots musket-balls which do not punch holes in IIIA armor, and thus is irrelevent in a thread about .22TCM. 
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Posted: 4/26/2015 2:28:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, look, a gun that shoots musket-balls which do not punch holes in IIIA armor, and thus is irrelevent in a thread about .22TCM. Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, look, a gun that shoots musket-balls which do not punch holes in IIIA armor, and thus is irrelevent in a thread about .22TCM. It will with the right ammo   |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 8:13:19 PM EDT
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Oh, look, a gun that shoots musket-balls which do not punch holes in IIIA armor, and thus is irrelevent in a thread about .22TCM. It will with the right ammo
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/T_hZMZM1l04/maxresdefault.jpg Not consistently. That ammo goes through some IIIA, not all. And since armor makers know about it, many are modifying their IIIA products accordingly. .22TCM has both velocity and sectional density on its side. And there is no intensity like sectional density. Soft armor will not stop it with any realistic thickness without order-of-magnitude better materials. We could also compare prices between standard .22TCM ammo (which expands, gets 12" of penetration, and punches through IIIA) and the Liberty ammo. 
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Posted: 4/26/2015 8:23:39 PM EDT
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Do it. I have always wanted one.
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Posted: 4/26/2015 9:02:39 PM EDT
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Do it. I have always wanted one. The ammo availability scares me though |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 9:05:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI already have an hk vp9 so I'm good there (yes I do know that is a p30) |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 9:07:13 PM EDT
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Do it. I have always wanted one. The ammo availability scares me though Readily available where I live, and online it seems... Get some reloading dies. Short and long term problems solved. |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 9:14:35 PM EDT
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Not consistently. That ammo goes through some IIIA, not all. And since armor makers know about it, many are modifying their IIIA products accordingly. .22TCM has both velocity and sectional density on its side. And there is no intensity like sectional density. Soft armor will not stop it with any realistic thickness without order-of-magnitude better materials. We could also compare prices between standard .22TCM ammo (which expands, gets 12" of penetration, and punches through IIIA) and the Liberty ammo. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh, look, a gun that shoots musket-balls which do not punch holes in IIIA armor, and thus is irrelevent in a thread about .22TCM. It will with the right ammo
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/T_hZMZM1l04/maxresdefault.jpg Not consistently. That ammo goes through some IIIA, not all. And since armor makers know about it, many are modifying their IIIA products accordingly. .22TCM has both velocity and sectional density on its side. And there is no intensity like sectional density. Soft armor will not stop it with any realistic thickness without order-of-magnitude better materials. We could also compare prices between standard .22TCM ammo (which expands, gets 12" of penetration, and punches through IIIA) and the Liberty ammo. 
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1721610_Why_not_make_some_legal_handgun_AP_to_get_the_BATFE_back_for_7N6_and_M855__Results_on_pgs_4__5__and_6_.html&page=4 There's another path, in 9mm, that can't be designed around by an armor company... |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 10:00:19 PM EDT
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http:// http://i.imgur.com/GF9SbYrh.jpg http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1721610_Why_not_make_some_legal_handgun_AP_to_get_the_BATFE_back_for_7N6_and_M855__Results_on_pgs_4__5__and_6_.html&page=4 There's another path, in 9mm, that can't be designed around by an armor company... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh, look, a gun that shoots musket-balls which do not punch holes in IIIA armor, and thus is irrelevent in a thread about .22TCM. It will with the right ammo
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/T_hZMZM1l04/maxresdefault.jpg Not consistently. That ammo goes through some IIIA, not all. And since armor makers know about it, many are modifying their IIIA products accordingly. .22TCM has both velocity and sectional density on its side. And there is no intensity like sectional density. Soft armor will not stop it with any realistic thickness without order-of-magnitude better materials. We could also compare prices between standard .22TCM ammo (which expands, gets 12" of penetration, and punches through IIIA) and the Liberty ammo. http:// http://i.imgur.com/GF9SbYrh.jpg http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1721610_Why_not_make_some_legal_handgun_AP_to_get_the_BATFE_back_for_7N6_and_M855__Results_on_pgs_4__5__and_6_.html&page=4 There's another path, in 9mm, that can't be designed around by an armor company... I was there for that thread.
Offer it commercially already! 
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Posted: 4/26/2015 10:13:12 PM EDT
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I've sold a few, they are very cool. I really hope the 22TCM catches on.
ETA: Even if the 22TCM dies out, it's still a great price for a double-stack 9mm 1911. |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 10:26:34 PM EDT
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I've sold a few, they are very cool. I really hope the 22TCM catches on. ETA: Even if the 22TCM dies out, it's still a great price for a double-stack 9mm 1911. Yep. I have no reasons why you shouldn't buy this pistol. |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 10:34:24 PM EDT
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I say go for it. The 9mm barrel makes it a no brainer. The sights are about the only complaint I have. Black front and two dot rear? WTF.
I tried installing a lighter Para trigger to reduce weight (factory unit is steel), but the stirrup was way too long. Might be better off attaching an AL shoe to the stock stirrup. Otherwise you risk trigger bounce if you go for a light pull. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 7:46:17 AM EDT
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I cant speak for the 22 but I have a RIA 9MM and its a really cool gun to shoot, no recoil just steady busting caps
 one of the best purchases I have made in the last couple years.
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