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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:13:47 PM EDT
[#1]
I vote no.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:16:22 PM EDT
[#2]
Vmax? I doubt it.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:17:29 PM EDT
[#3]
Still no beef. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:19:58 PM EDT
[#4]
Mayne the plate is penetrating the bullet, instead of the bullet breaking on the plate?
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:22:29 PM EDT
[#5]
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:23:44 PM EDT
[#6]
I say yes, because velocity can do some amazing things.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:27:16 PM EDT
[#7]
Just post the freaking video already.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:31:50 PM EDT
[#8]
I will be suprised if it doesn't penetrate.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:34:38 PM EDT
[#9]
yes!
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:38:49 PM EDT
[#10]
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I vote no because it's a vmax Yep. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:48:23 PM EDT
[#11]
During some design testing of some reactive steel targets we set up a swinging 4" square by 1/2" thick AR550 target at 50 yards. We then shot it with a 22-250 loaded with 50 grain nosler ballistic tips at approx 3650 fps muzzle velocity. It penetrated and cratered the easily swinging target about 1/4", so half way through. So I vote yes. We also shot the same target with m193 out of a 16" ar that only took off the paint.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:51:53 PM EDT
[#12]
Speed kills
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:54:50 PM EDT
[#13]
Yes like a hot knife through butter.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 11:04:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2015 11:43:15 PM EDT
[#15]
Maybe - I lean toward no and voted that way. I expect a pretty noticeable impact crater.
Won't be surprised if it does go through though. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 11:52:17 PM EDT
[#16]
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Yes like a hot knife through butter. This. 22-250 is a BAMF. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 11:57:49 PM EDT
[#17]
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That is what I am leaning towards. the polymer plug will expand on impact and the bullet will just splash. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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vmax no, fmj yes That is what I am leaning towards. the polymer plug will expand on impact and the bullet will just splash. I'd say this too. But it will be interesting. With enough velocity it might be possible. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 11:59:34 PM EDT
[#18]
Where's the damn vid!!!
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:02:25 AM EDT
[#19]
This seems like a good Friday video. Just wait until Friday to post it
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:03:13 AM EDT
[#20]
Yep
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:05:15 AM EDT
[#21]
I love how many members are saying basically "I'm pretty sure it either will go through or not go through." It positively kills you guys to just say you don't know or pick a choice and maybe be wrong.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:05:45 AM EDT
[#22]
In before the 220 swift boys claim that their rifle coulda done it...
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:08:15 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This seems like a good Friday video. Just wait until Friday to post it |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:15:33 AM EDT
[#24]
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Ok! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This seems like a good Friday video. Just wait until Friday to post it Hey...... , you no can do that..what are we going to do between now and then? you will drive us all nuts... then what happens when the neighbors call the cops on us...the judge just isn't going to understand... , and it will be all your fault...
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:16:59 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted: Will a 22-250 Hornady 40gr V-Max go through an AR500 Level III+ body armor panel @ 15 yards? in for the video |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:18:35 AM EDT
[#26]
How thick is a "level III" AR500 plate?
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:22:56 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: vmax no, fmj yes This. I've shot many hundreds of gophers and prairie dogs with 50gr Nosler BTs in a .22-250. It blows up on soft targets, I'll be very surprised if it penetrates. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:23:48 AM EDT
[#28]
From what I understand both the level III and level III+ are 1/4" thick. The III+ is just a harder steel.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:29:15 AM EDT
[#29]
Yes, because I want to believe in hot sexy speed!
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:34:08 AM EDT
[#30]
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I vote no because it's a vmax +1 But my interest is piqued to see the result. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:35:06 AM EDT
[#31]
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That is what I am leaning towards. the polymer plug will expand on impact and the bullet will just splash. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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vmax no, fmj yes That is what I am leaning towards. the polymer plug will expand on impact and the bullet will just splash. With enough velocity bullet construction isn't a deal breaker. Science will tell us the truth. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:35:36 AM EDT
[#32]
I think it'll go through.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:44:42 AM EDT
[#33]
I say no.
It doesn't have a point to generate the penetration that the velocity would produce if it did not have a plastic tip. I say it splats. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:51:22 AM EDT
[#34]
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yes |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:56:19 AM EDT
[#35]
Just because he won't load the video.. heres this, its the top half of an oxygen cylinder made from 4140 CR, 3/8"+ thick...hung from a rope at 100yards....the 2 marks are from XM-193...out of a 16" AR.....
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:59:08 AM EDT
[#36]
I argued before now I vote yes
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Posted: 4/22/2015 1:18:48 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From what I understand both the level III and level III+ are 1/4" thick. The III+ is just a harder steel. My 3/8" AR400 targets have stood up to many hundreds of FMJ .223, so I'm going to go with a resounding "no it's not going through." |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 1:18:51 AM EDT
[#38]
Video.....someone....
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Posted: 4/22/2015 1:19:08 AM EDT
[#39]
I would assume yes because of the velocity. However, VMAX is definitely not designed to penetrate, so that makes it unclear.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 1:19:16 AM EDT
[#40]
Once you get over 4kfps, very cool things happen, so I vote yes.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 1:30:56 AM EDT
[#41]
no.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 1:32:34 AM EDT
[#42]
100% YES |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 1:46:45 AM EDT
[#43]
I'm thinking it's going to go through. Anxious for the video. I was just thinking about loading a 22-250 with 55 fmj at 100 fps intervals, from 3100 on up to max speed, and seeing where the threshold is where this armor would lose. I've got the rifle and the ability to make the ammo, but no armor plate or video camera. Maybe someday.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 1:54:37 AM EDT
[#44]
I am going with no because of the vmax
Polymer Tip The polymer tip increases the ballistic coefficient and also initiates dramatic expansion upon impact – even at velocities as low as 1600 fps. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 2:02:02 AM EDT
[#45]
I vote yes. Anxious to see a video of it.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 2:15:33 AM EDT
[#46]
I voted yes.
I have shot through AR500 with my 220 Swifts (faster than 22-250 by a couple of hundred fps, depending on the load) with various bullets. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 8:24:58 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mayne the plate is penetrating the bullet, instead of the bullet breaking on the plate?  |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 8:44:57 AM EDT
[#48]
Damn good question, wnything other then vmax and id say zing right threw. Vmax come apart really easy though.
I guess it punches threw but not as clean As a fmj. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 8:51:13 AM EDT
[#49]
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My 3/8" AR400 targets have stood up to many hundreds of FMJ .223, so I'm going to go with a resounding "no it's not going through." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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From what I understand both the level III and level III+ are 1/4" thick. The III+ is just a harder steel. My 3/8" AR400 targets have stood up to many hundreds of FMJ .223, so I'm going to go with a resounding "no it's not going through." Velocity is important when it comes to defeating armor (and a 40gr 22-250 will have a LOT of that). But so is bullet construction. If the 22-250 used FMJ, I'd say it would go through. But since it's using a fragile VMax, I'll give it a 50/50 shot. The only way to tell is to shoot it. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 8:52:46 AM EDT
[#50]
4100 FPS? I'm going to say yes, it will punch right through.
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