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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:24:58 AM EDT
he city of Parma, Missouri, elected a new mayor for the first time in 37 years. Her welcome package to the job: Over 80% of the town’s police force resigned, effective immediately: Outgoing Mayor Randall Ramsey told KFVS that, in addition to 5 of the town’s 6 police officers, several local officials also resigned: “[T]he city’s attorney, the clerk and the waste water treatment plant supervisor also turned in resignation letters citing ‘safety concerns.'” The alleged “safety concerns” are currently unclear, and newly-elected Mayor Tyrus Byrd, a former city clerk and Parma native, declined to comment on the sudden exodus of city employees. Byrd also indicated that she never received any official resignation letters: According to resident Martha Miller: “I think it was pretty dirty the way they all quit without giving her a chance. But I don’t think they hurt the town by quitting, because who needs six police for 740 people?” Another resident, Terrell Thatch agrees: More here: http://www.ijreview.com/2015/04/301227-numerous-city-officials-resign-missouri-town-elects-new-mayor-first-time-37-years/ |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:25:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:27:05 AM EDT
[#2]
" Hands up Don't Shoot " Oh yeah, now nobody will listen
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:27:56 AM EDT
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Please tune in for the next episode of "Unintended Consequences".
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:28:55 AM EDT
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Theres gotta be more to the story. Hell, I hope theres more to the story!
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:28:56 AM EDT
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I don't think her being black is why they quit. I have a feeling she has said a lot of anti-police racial stuff while campaigning. Just a wild guess though.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:30:43 AM EDT
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lol
They don't need 6 cops anyway. If you sneeze while driving you'll completely miss Parma. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:31:24 AM EDT
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I've never heard of Parma; I had to look it up.
That place is way more rural than I'd guessed. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:32:05 AM EDT
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Makes me wonder what the real story is.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:32:35 AM EDT
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At first, I was like "80%"
But then I learned that's only 5 out of 6. 
Easily replaced. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:33:57 AM EDT
[#10]
6 cops for 740 people? Seems unnecessary anyways.
I think this new mayor may have just saved this town some money. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:34:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think her being black is why they quit. I have a feeling she has said a lot of anti-police racial stuff while campaigning. Just a wild guess though. Or, the cops were just cronies of the previous mayor who had been in 37 years, and knew they weren't going to have a job after the new mayor took office. Apparently the new mayor is a Republican, while the old mayor is a Democrat. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:34:46 AM EDT
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lol They don't need 6 cops anyway. If you sneeze while driving you'll completely miss Parma. Uhhh, never scheduled staff before, I see. There are 7 days in a week. If you had 2 officers, they'd both have to work 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. 4 officers would be MINIMAL (for 24/7 coverage), but only if none of them ever get sick or take a vacation. 5 would allow for coverages when one of the other staff is unable to work. 6 would be optimal. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:35:42 AM EDT
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Neo-journalism says: Something happened=racism. Just shaping the narrative.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:35:51 AM EDT
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Well her first week on the job is going to look good for the bean counters, law enforcement and local body expenses have just plummeted!
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:36:10 AM EDT
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6 cops for 740 people? Seems unnecessary anyways. I think this new mayor may have just saved this town some money. The minumum number of cops that should ever be on duty is two plus a supervisor. Doesnt matter if you have 740 people or 74,000 thats the minimum. If you cant afford that you shouldnt have your own PD and should instead contract with a larger agency for police services. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:37:26 AM EDT
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Uhhh, never scheduled staff before, I see. There are 7 days in a week. If you had 2 officers, they'd both have to work 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. 4 officers would be MINIMAL (for 24/7 coverage), but only if none of them ever get sick or take a vacation. 5 would allow for coverages when one of the other staff is unable to work. 6 would be optimal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol They don't need 6 cops anyway. If you sneeze while driving you'll completely miss Parma. Uhhh, never scheduled staff before, I see. There are 7 days in a week. If you had 2 officers, they'd both have to work 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. 4 officers would be MINIMAL (for 24/7 coverage), but only if none of them ever get sick or take a vacation. 5 would allow for coverages when one of the other staff is unable to work. 6 would be optimal. not any more.... 
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:37:54 AM EDT
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I'm sure they have no trouble finding new work with that on their resume. I'm sure she'll shed a lot of tears harvesting the hell outa the pension plan too.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:37:59 AM EDT
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Uhhh, never scheduled staff before, I see. There are 7 days in a week. If you had 2 officers, they'd both have to work 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. 4 officers would be MINIMAL (for 24/7 coverage), but only if none of them ever get sick or take a vacation. 5 would allow for coverages when one of the other staff is unable to work. 6 would be optimal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol They don't need 6 cops anyway. If you sneeze while driving you'll completely miss Parma. Uhhh, never scheduled staff before, I see. There are 7 days in a week. If you had 2 officers, they'd both have to work 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. 4 officers would be MINIMAL (for 24/7 coverage), but only if none of them ever get sick or take a vacation. 5 would allow for coverages when one of the other staff is unable to work. 6 would be optimal. LOL When you spend some time in Parma then you and I can have an intelligent, informed discussion on the lack of need for 24/7 coverage. Eta: frankly they don't need any. It would be cheaper and just as effective to have county patrol it. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:38:00 AM EDT
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Theres gotta be more to the story. Hell, I hope theres more to the story! Gotta be more, for sure. I'll wait to hear the rest of the story (at least, the rest of the story that actually gets published).before jumping into the fray. This is going to be interesting.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:41:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The minumum number of cops that should ever be on duty is two plus a supervisor. Doesnt matter if you have 740 people or 74,000 thats the minimum. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 6 cops for 740 people? Seems unnecessary anyways. I think this new mayor may have just saved this town some money. The minumum number of cops that should ever be on duty is two plus a supervisor. Doesnt matter if you have 740 people or 74,000 thats the minimum. I think that unless the town has a serious meth problem any cops is too many and unneeded. Plenty of bigger towns get by with only the local sheriff. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:43:17 AM EDT
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The minumum number of cops that should ever be on duty is two plus a supervisor. Doesnt matter if you have 740 people or 74,000 thats the minimum. If you cant afford that you shouldnt have your own PD and should instead contract with a larger agency for police services. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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6 cops for 740 people? Seems unnecessary anyways. I think this new mayor may have just saved this town some money. The minumum number of cops that should ever be on duty is two plus a supervisor. Doesnt matter if you have 740 people or 74,000 thats the minimum. If you cant afford that you shouldnt have your own PD and should instead contract with a larger agency for police services.   thats cute. I work in a town of a little over 2k, 32 of my 40 hours are alone.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:43:30 AM EDT
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The minumum number of cops that should ever be on duty is two plus a supervisor. Doesnt matter if you have 740 people or 74,000 thats the minimum. If you cant afford that you shouldnt have your own PD and should instead contract with a larger agency for police services. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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6 cops for 740 people? Seems unnecessary anyways. I think this new mayor may have just saved this town some money. The minumum number of cops that should ever be on duty is two plus a supervisor. Doesnt matter if you have 740 people or 74,000 thats the minimum. If you cant afford that you shouldnt have your own PD and should instead contract with a larger agency for police services. Laughable. Our county sheriff dept has 6 deputy's and one investigator. They seem to manage approx1600 square miles just fine. I fail to see how a town of 600 people needs or can afford a police force at all. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:43:36 AM EDT
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Or, the cops were just cronies of the previous mayor who had been in 37 years, and knew they weren't going to have a job after the new mayor took office. Apparently the new mayor is a Republican, while the old mayor is a Democrat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think her being black is why they quit. I have a feeling she has said a lot of anti-police racial stuff while campaigning. Just a wild guess though. Or, the cops were just cronies of the previous mayor who had been in 37 years, and knew they weren't going to have a job after the new mayor took office. Apparently the new mayor is a Republican, while the old mayor is a Democrat. Could be that as well. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:45:33 AM EDT
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Laughable. Our county sheriff dept has 6 deputy's and one investigator. They seem to manage approx1600 square miles just fine. I fail to see how a town of 600 people needs or can afford a police force at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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6 cops for 740 people? Seems unnecessary anyways. I think this new mayor may have just saved this town some money. The minumum number of cops that should ever be on duty is two plus a supervisor. Doesnt matter if you have 740 people or 74,000 thats the minimum. If you cant afford that you shouldnt have your own PD and should instead contract with a larger agency for police services. Laughable. Our county sheriff dept has 6 deputy's and one investigator. They seem to manage approx1600 square miles just fine. I fail to see how a town of 600 people needs or can afford a police force at all. Ticket revenue |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:46:52 AM EDT
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Or, the cops were just cronies of the previous mayor who had been in 37 years, and knew they weren't going to have a job after the new mayor took office. Apparently the new mayor is a Republican, while the old mayor is a Democrat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think her being black is why they quit. I have a feeling she has said a lot of anti-police racial stuff while campaigning. Just a wild guess though. Or, the cops were just cronies of the previous mayor who had been in 37 years, and knew they weren't going to have a job after the new mayor took office. Apparently the new mayor is a Republican, while the old mayor is a Democrat. Link? |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:47:52 AM EDT
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Makes me wonder what the real story is. Possibly some ghosts in the closet getting flushed out by the new admin ? That town looks pretty decrepit, 37 years for it's first new mayor I doubt she will even be able to find pure accounting of where tax money was "applied". |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:48:13 AM EDT
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The Founders are spinning in their graves.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:49:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think her being black is why they quit. I have a feeling she has said a lot of anti-police racial stuff while campaigning. Just a wild guess though. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:50:57 AM EDT
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sounds like the mayor has a reputation for being a major cunt...
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:54:45 AM EDT
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lol They don't need 6 cops anyway. If you sneeze while driving you'll completely miss Parma.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:55:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uhhh, never scheduled staff before, I see. There are 7 days in a week. If you had 2 officers, they'd both have to work 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. 4 officers would be MINIMAL (for 24/7 coverage), but only if none of them ever get sick or take a vacation. 5 would allow for coverages when one of the other staff is unable to work. 6 would be optimal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol They don't need 6 cops anyway. If you sneeze while driving you'll completely miss Parma. Uhhh, never scheduled staff before, I see. There are 7 days in a week. If you had 2 officers, they'd both have to work 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. 4 officers would be MINIMAL (for 24/7 coverage), but only if none of them ever get sick or take a vacation. 5 would allow for coverages when one of the other staff is unable to work. 6 would be optimal. A city of 740 doesn't even need a police department. Let the county sheriff handle it. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:55:46 AM EDT
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lol They don't need 6 cops anyway. If you sneeze while driving you'll completely miss Parma. A total of 6 officers probably means there is one on duty at all times. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:56:30 AM EDT
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NVM, not race related...might have to do with with ties to the past mayor.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:57:22 AM EDT
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A total of 6 officers probably means there is one on duty at all times. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol They don't need 6 cops anyway. If you sneeze while driving you'll completely miss Parma. A total of 6 officers probably means there is one on duty at all times. Complete waste of funds. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:59:02 AM EDT
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LOL When you spend some time in Parma then you and I can have an intelligent, informed discussion on the lack of need for 24/7 coverage. Eta: frankly they don't need any. It would be cheaper and just as effective to have county patrol it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol They don't need 6 cops anyway. If you sneeze while driving you'll completely miss Parma. Uhhh, never scheduled staff before, I see. There are 7 days in a week. If you had 2 officers, they'd both have to work 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. 4 officers would be MINIMAL (for 24/7 coverage), but only if none of them ever get sick or take a vacation. 5 would allow for coverages when one of the other staff is unable to work. 6 would be optimal. LOL When you spend some time in Parma then you and I can have an intelligent, informed discussion on the lack of need for 24/7 coverage. Eta: frankly they don't need any. It would be cheaper and just as effective to have county patrol it. Most towns of that size do just that (with maybe a local guy on call). 6 is shady as fuck. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:05:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:06:59 AM EDT
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Considering the fact that the officers would have probably known her pretty well as a city employee, I'm guessing she has a reputation. I'd be willing to bet that she holds strong views on Mike Brown shooting and they jumped ship rather than work for a woman who would throw them under the bus. Looking at the town's demographics, it's 40% black, that means the chances of having a "bad" encounter with that group are probably pretty high. If she values race over the truth, I wouldn't want to work for her either.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:10:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:14:26 AM EDT
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Anyone want to guess she was going to disband the police dept.. Quit or be fired would be my guess. Keep the one guy and hire another with incentive to stay.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:15:53 AM EDT
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Has to be more to this story.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:15:58 AM EDT
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She has the black lady equivalent of the "Can I talk to the manager?" haircut. That's why they quit!!
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:20:23 AM EDT
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I see a lot of people thinking small towns don't need any direct officers, and let the county handle it.
Many small cities are in small counties. Which means, if I am answering a call on the north end, and you in your city need me... it might be awhile. Bigger thing to look at is, not the cops. Cops come and go. When the city attorney AND the shit plant operator both pop smoke, THAT's a clue. Either she is swooping in to clean up a buncha good-ol-boy nonsense, or she is going to obama that municipality, R or not.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:21:41 AM EDT
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Eagerly awaiting more info.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:23:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Considering the fact that the officers would have probably known her pretty well as a city employee, I'm guessing she has a reputation. I'd be willing to bet that she holds strong views on Mike Brown shooting and they jumped ship rather than work for a woman who would throw them under the bus. Looking at the town's demographics, it's 40% black, that means the chances of having a "bad" encounter with that group are probably pretty high. If she values race over the truth, I wouldn't want to work for her either. Maybe, or that now the old mayor is gone, the overstaffed police department can see the writing on the wall. Perhaps she is requiring an audit of the police department and the rats are fleeing.... |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:26:47 AM EDT
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according to some site I found trying to see what her campaign platform was:
she won by 38 votes there was 2 full time and 3 part timers, and they wiped every computer in city hall on the way out... curious and curiouser... 
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:27:13 AM EDT
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Maybe, or that now the old mayor is gone, the overstaffed police department can see the writing on the wall. Perhaps she is requiring an audit of the police department and the rats are fleeing.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Considering the fact that the officers would have probably known her pretty well as a city employee, I'm guessing she has a reputation. I'd be willing to bet that she holds strong views on Mike Brown shooting and they jumped ship rather than work for a woman who would throw them under the bus. Looking at the town's demographics, it's 40% black, that means the chances of having a "bad" encounter with that group are probably pretty high. If she values race over the truth, I wouldn't want to work for her either. Maybe, or that now the old mayor is gone, the overstaffed police department can see the writing on the wall. Perhaps she is requiring an audit of the police department and the rats are fleeing.... Seems the most likely thing |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:27:46 AM EDT
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according to some site I found trying to see what her campaign platform was: she won by 38 votes there was 2 full time and 3 part timers, and they wiped every computer in city hall on the way out... curious and curiouser... Make you wonder what those poor tax payers had been buying all those years..... 
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:29:12 AM EDT
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Maybe, or that now the old mayor is gone, the overstaffed police department can see the writing on the wall. Perhaps she is requiring an audit of the police department and the rats are fleeing.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Considering the fact that the officers would have probably known her pretty well as a city employee, I'm guessing she has a reputation. I'd be willing to bet that she holds strong views on Mike Brown shooting and they jumped ship rather than work for a woman who would throw them under the bus. Looking at the town's demographics, it's 40% black, that means the chances of having a "bad" encounter with that group are probably pretty high. If she values race over the truth, I wouldn't want to work for her either. Maybe, or that now the old mayor is gone, the overstaffed police department can see the writing on the wall. Perhaps she is requiring an audit of the police department and the rats are fleeing.... Possibly, I'm just guessing based on the proximity to ferguson and the fact that 5 out of 6 cops left. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:31:51 AM EDT
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Could see that, depending on what her particular stance was on certain things.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:33:14 AM EDT
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I'm sure they have no trouble finding new work with that on their resume. I'm sure she'll shed a lot of tears harvesting the hell outa the pension plan too.  Umm yeah, about that..... well... they didn't exactly have an Extorris defined pension plan.
...else they wouldn't have quit. They would have retired in style. 
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