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Posted: 6/24/2015 1:13:12 PM EDT
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Smile and wave boys, smile and wave. It's the PD they want. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BALTIMORE — More Baltimore police officers likely face arrest as the result of reforms in a scandal-ridden department that requires "wholesale change," Commissioner Anthony W. Batts wrote in a wide-ranging opinion piece published in The Baltimore Sun. "Our reform efforts will very likely see more police officers arrested," Batts wrote. "We will have more officers who are forced out because their outdated, outmoded views of policing do not match the standards the community expects and demands." http://www.policeone.com/officer-misconduct-internal-affairs/articles/8575506-Batts-More-Baltimore-cops-likely-to-be-arrested-forced-out-as-result-of-reforms/?utm_source=8574287&utm_medium=email&utm_content=TopNewsRight3Title&utm_campaign=P1Member&nlid=8574287 Wow. Smile and wave boys, smile and wave. It's the PD they want. Watch the arrests drop even more. |
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Posted: 6/24/2015 7:54:39 PM EDT
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Prosecutors take credit for restoring order in Baltimore after riot
State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby's announcement of charges against six officers in connection with the arrest and death of Freddie Gray restored order to Baltimore "before the entire city became an armed camp or was burned to the ground," her office argued in a new court filing.
... "Speaking in the middle of an ongoing riot, Mrs. Mosby was trying to calm the crowd, not incite it," Schatzow wrote. "Her repeated pleas for peace while the criminal justice system does its work served a legitimate law enforcement function." When Mosby made the announcement of charges on May 1, there had been no violent protesting for a number of days, but National Guard troops and squads of police remained on city streets. Her announcement was met with jubilation through the city. 
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Posted: 6/24/2015 7:57:35 PM EDT
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Liberalism really is a mental illness that rejects reality.
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Posted: 6/24/2015 8:35:27 PM EDT
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Liberalism really is a mental illness that rejects reality. No other explanation |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 11:47:52 AM EDT
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Expert disagrees with 'homicide' conclusion in Gray's death
Opinion: Asked about the Maryland medical examiner's conclusion that Freddie Gray's death from injuries sustained in police custody was a homicide, Dr. Vincent DiMaio, one of the nation's leading forensic pathologists, said: "I'd have to respectfully disagree, and I know a number of other medical examiners do. It would be more appropriate to have classified this case as either an accident or 'undetermined,' because the way it's being called a homicide is, in a way, something that a jury has to decide. A medical examiner is not a lawyer, is not a jury. … They're saying [Gray's death] was not an unforeseen event. That's something for a jury to decide, not the doctor to decide."
Fact: DiMaio has been a forensic pathologist for more than 40 years, most of them in Texas. He has testified in high-profile cases, including the Florida trial of George Zimmerman in the death of Trayvon Martin. He did some of his training in the Maryland medical examiner's office. |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 1:28:51 PM EDT
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Liberalism really is a mental illness that rejects reality. damn can I use that as my tagline? |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 5:38:00 PM EDT
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freddie Gray suffered a single "high-energy injury" — like those seen in shallow-water diving incidents — most likely caused when the police van in which he was riding suddenly decelerated, according to a copy of the autopsy report obtained by The Baltimore Sun. The state medical examiner's office concluded that Gray's death could not be ruled an accident, and was instead a homicide, because officers failed to follow safety procedures "through acts of omission." Though Gray was loaded into the van on his belly, the medical examiner surmised that he may have gotten to his feet and was thrown into the wall during an abrupt change in direction. He was not belted in, but his wrists and ankles were shackled, making him "at risk for an unsupported fall during acceleration or deceleration of the van." http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-freddie-gray-autopsy-20150623-story.html#page=1 
Wow. What a joke and no toxicology results? Gray tested positive for opiates and cannabinoid when he was admitted to Maryland Shock Trauma Center, according to the autopsy. The report makes no further reference to the drugs found in his system. Heroin and Pot. Who would have thunk it 
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Posted: 6/26/2015 11:21:14 AM EDT
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Prosecutors take credit for restoring order in Baltimore after riot State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby's announcement of charges against six officers in connection with the arrest and death of Freddie Gray restored order to Baltimore "before the entire city became an armed camp or was burned to the ground," her office argued in a new court filing.
... "Speaking in the middle of an ongoing riot, Mrs. Mosby was trying to calm the crowd, not incite it," Schatzow wrote. "Her repeated pleas for peace while the criminal justice system does its work served a legitimate law enforcement function." When Mosby made the announcement of charges on May 1, there had been no violent protesting for a number of days, but National Guard troops and squads of police remained on city streets. Her announcement was met with jubilation through the city. She should be brought up on charges. They knowingly falsely charged those officers with crimes they know they did not do and can't prove in court to calm the rioters. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 1:32:13 PM EDT
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damn can I use that as my tagline? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Liberalism really is a mental illness that rejects reality. damn can I use that as my tagline? Of course, I figured it was common knowledge anyway. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 10:54:43 PM EDT
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She should be brought up on charges. They knowingly falsely charged those officers with crimes they know they did not do and can't prove in court to calm the rioters. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Prosecutors take credit for restoring order in Baltimore after riot State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby's announcement of charges against six officers in connection with the arrest and death of Freddie Gray restored order to Baltimore "before the entire city became an armed camp or was burned to the ground," her office argued in a new court filing.
... "Speaking in the middle of an ongoing riot, Mrs. Mosby was trying to calm the crowd, not incite it," Schatzow wrote. "Her repeated pleas for peace while the criminal justice system does its work served a legitimate law enforcement function." When Mosby made the announcement of charges on May 1, there had been no violent protesting for a number of days, but National Guard troops and squads of police remained on city streets. Her announcement was met with jubilation through the city. She should be brought up on charges. They knowingly falsely charged those officers with crimes they know they did not do and can't prove in court to calm the rioters. Agree completely. There has to be accountability throughout the legal system or people will have no confidence in it. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 10:57:23 PM EDT
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Heroin and Pot. Who would have thunk it
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freddie Gray suffered a single "high-energy injury" — like those seen in shallow-water diving incidents — most likely caused when the police van in which he was riding suddenly decelerated, according to a copy of the autopsy report obtained by The Baltimore Sun. The state medical examiner's office concluded that Gray's death could not be ruled an accident, and was instead a homicide, because officers failed to follow safety procedures "through acts of omission." Though Gray was loaded into the van on his belly, the medical examiner surmised that he may have gotten to his feet and was thrown into the wall during an abrupt change in direction. He was not belted in, but his wrists and ankles were shackled, making him "at risk for an unsupported fall during acceleration or deceleration of the van." http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-freddie-gray-autopsy-20150623-story.html#page=1
Wow. What a joke and no toxicology results? Gray tested positive for opiates and cannabinoid when he was admitted to Maryland Shock Trauma Center, according to the autopsy. The report makes no further reference to the drugs found in his system. Heroin and Pot. Who would have thunk it
Ed Happens when you swallow the product, the evidence. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 10:58:35 PM EDT
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She should be brought up on charges. They knowingly falsely charged those officers with crimes they know they did not do and can't prove in court to calm the rioters. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Prosecutors take credit for restoring order in Baltimore after riot State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby's announcement of charges against six officers in connection with the arrest and death of Freddie Gray restored order to Baltimore "before the entire city became an armed camp or was burned to the ground," her office argued in a new court filing.
... "Speaking in the middle of an ongoing riot, Mrs. Mosby was trying to calm the crowd, not incite it," Schatzow wrote. "Her repeated pleas for peace while the criminal justice system does its work served a legitimate law enforcement function." When Mosby made the announcement of charges on May 1, there had been no violent protesting for a number of days, but National Guard troops and squads of police remained on city streets. Her announcement was met with jubilation through the city. She should be brought up on charges. They knowingly falsely charged those officers with crimes they know they did not do and can't prove in court to calm the rioters. Hillary will give her a cabinet post, AG, or better yet you're looking at Hillary's first SCOTUS candidate. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 11:30:06 PM EDT
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Prosecutors: Keep Freddie Gray trial in Baltimore — at least for now
Prosecutors on Friday urged a Baltimore judge to try six police officers charged in the arrest and death of Freddie Gray in the city, arguing that it's too early to decide whether jurors here can be impartial.
Defense lawyers have asked for the trials to be moved elsewhere in Maryland, pointing to the high level of publicity the case has received. Deputy state's attorney Janice Bledsoe left open the possibility that the case could still be moved if an impartial jury cannot be seated on the eve of trial. "Until then, the court should not, as the defendants request, demeaningly prejudge the ability of Baltimore's citizens to fulfill their traditional duty to impartially determine the facts of criminal cases happening within their city," Bledsoe wrote. The case has already been characterized by a flurry of contentious motions, including a defense request to dismiss the charges because of alleged prosecutorial misconduct. Many of those issues must now be decided by Circuit Judge Barry G. Williams, who is handling the case. Also on Friday, prosecutors asked that the six defendants be tried in two separate groups, with one trial for four officers and another for the remaining two. Other issues are likely to be litigated as prosecutors on Friday made available evidence in the case — amounting to some 52 gigabytes of digital files — to defense lawyers. ... |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:19:39 PM EDT
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I didn't see it, but will try to find video of this later. A comment over at Tree House:
Speaking of Baltimore, Megyn Kelly just led her show w/ news that police have Donta Allen on video claiming Gray was acting like a mad man inside the van, banging his head and trying to hurt himself. He reportedly is heard on video saying he was scared to put inside a van w/ someone acting as Crazy as Gray was acting, even though they were separated by dividers. ETA: 
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:59:51 PM EDT
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'Hold the line' commands protected lives during riot, police say
Baltimore police commanders acknowledge that they ordered officers not to engage rioters multiple times on the day of Freddie Gray's funeral but said they did so to protect officers and citizens as they prioritized life over property.
In an interview with The Baltimore Sun, police Commissioner Anthony W. Batts and six top commanders who directed deployments on April 27 denied that they gave blanket orders to do nothing as rioters looted, raided businesses and even attacked officers with impunity. ... But some officers say they should have been able to break their shoulder-to-shoulder lines and charge rioters, make arrests and quell the disturbance. The police union supports their claims, and the organization is expected to release an "after action report" in the coming weeks that should include many first-hand accounts from officers. The union has requested texts, emails and radio transmissions between police commanders and City Hall for review. As of Tuesday, the union had received only one tape from the voluminous riot transmission record. The police union's president, Lt. Gene Ryan, said the Police Department could clear up any misconceptions or rumors by releasing the requested communications. "If they have nothing to hide — and they always talk about being transparent — how come they haven't given me the tapes of the radio transmissions?" Ryan said. "If they have nothing to hide, why not give me what we asked them for?" |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 3:07:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agree completely. There has to be accountability throughout the legal system or people will have no confidence in it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Prosecutors take credit for restoring order in Baltimore after riot State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby's announcement of charges against six officers in connection with the arrest and death of Freddie Gray restored order to Baltimore "before the entire city became an armed camp or was burned to the ground," her office argued in a new court filing. ... "Speaking in the middle of an ongoing riot, Mrs. Mosby was trying to calm the crowd, not incite it," Schatzow wrote. "Her repeated pleas for peace while the criminal justice system does its work served a legitimate law enforcement function." When Mosby made the announcement of charges on May 1, there had been no violent protesting for a number of days, but National Guard troops and squads of police remained on city streets. Her announcement was met with jubilation through the city. She should be brought up on charges. They knowingly falsely charged those officers with crimes they know they did not do and can't prove in court to calm the rioters. Agree completely. There has to be accountability throughout the legal system or people will have no confidence in it. |
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Posted: 7/10/2015 12:39:25 PM EDT
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Marilyn Mosby Appears At Activist-Photographer’s Art Show Opening
Marilyn Mosby, the controversial Baltimore city state’s attorney prosecuting the Freddie Gray case, appeared Thursday at the opening of a show for an activist-turned-photographer whose snapshot of April’s riots in Baltimore graced the cover of Time magazine. Mosby and her husband, Baltimore city councilman Nick Mosby, showed up to Devin Allen’s premier, which was held at the Reginald F. Lewis Museum. ... Allen posted another picture of himself, the Mosbys and Baltimore photographer Robert Hughes posing together. Allen captioned the picture: “Black power all through this pic.” 
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Posted: 7/10/2015 12:40:27 PM EDT
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Marilyn Mosby Appears At Activist-Photographer’s Art Show Opening Marilyn Mosby, the controversial Baltimore city state’s attorney prosecuting the Freddie Gray case, appeared Thursday at the opening of a show for an activist-turned-photographer whose snapshot of April’s riots in Baltimore graced the cover of Time magazine. Mosby and her husband, Baltimore city councilman Nick Mosby, showed up to Devin Allen’s premier, which was held at the Reginald F. Lewis Museum. ... Allen posted another picture of himself, the Mosbys and Baltimore photographer Robert Hughes posing together. Allen captioned the picture: “Black power all through this pic.” https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJg8PBiW8AEOoPC.jpg I hope she loses her job eventually. |
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Posted: 7/10/2015 12:59:47 PM EDT
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Marilyn Mosby Appears At Activist-Photographer’s Art Show Opening Marilyn Mosby, the controversial Baltimore city state’s attorney prosecuting the Freddie Gray case, appeared Thursday at the opening of a show for an activist-turned-photographer whose snapshot of April’s riots in Baltimore graced the cover of Time magazine. Mosby and her husband, Baltimore city councilman Nick Mosby, showed up to Devin Allen’s premier, which was held at the Reginald F. Lewis Museum. ... Allen posted another picture of himself, the Mosbys and Baltimore photographer Robert Hughes posing together. Allen captioned the picture: “Black power all through this pic.” https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJg8PBiW8AEOoPC.jpg I hope she loses her job eventually. why? she represents the people of Baltimore extremely well. |
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Posted: 7/10/2015 9:17:02 PM EDT
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I tuned in late but I see Megyn Kelly is going off on Mosby again tonight.
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Posted: 7/10/2015 9:22:17 PM EDT
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This weekend there's a national NAACP event.
AG Lynch will speak. Obama will speak. Mosby will deliver the keynote speech. |
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Posted: 7/10/2015 9:24:24 PM EDT
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Marilyn Mosby Appears At Activist-Photographer’s Art Show Opening Marilyn Mosby, the controversial Baltimore city state’s attorney prosecuting the Freddie Gray case, appeared Thursday at the opening of a show for an activist-turned-photographer whose snapshot of April’s riots in Baltimore graced the cover of Time magazine. Mosby and her husband, Baltimore city councilman Nick Mosby, showed up to Devin Allen’s premier, which was held at the Reginald F. Lewis Museum. ... Allen posted another picture of himself, the Mosbys and Baltimore photographer Robert Hughes posing together. Allen captioned the picture: “Black power all through this pic.” https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJg8PBiW8AEOoPC.jpg I hope she loses her job eventually. why? she represents the people of Baltimore extremely well. Isn't the job of the DA to represent Lady Justice? |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 2:22:26 AM EDT
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Marilyn Mosby Appears At Activist-Photographer’s Art Show Opening Marilyn Mosby, the controversial Baltimore city state’s attorney prosecuting the Freddie Gray case, appeared Thursday at the opening of a show for an activist-turned-photographer whose snapshot of April’s riots in Baltimore graced the cover of Time magazine. Mosby and her husband, Baltimore city councilman Nick Mosby, showed up to Devin Allen’s premier, which was held at the Reginald F. Lewis Museum. ... Allen posted another picture of himself, the Mosbys and Baltimore photographer Robert Hughes posing together. Allen captioned the picture: “Black power all through this pic.” https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJg8PBiW8AEOoPC.jpg I hope she loses her job eventually. why? she represents the people of Baltimore extremely well. Isn't the job of the DA to represent Lady Justice? Who? |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 3:07:26 AM EDT
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Marilyn Mosby Appears At Activist-Photographer’s Art Show Opening Marilyn Mosby, the controversial Baltimore city state’s attorney prosecuting the Freddie Gray case, appeared Thursday at the opening of a show for an activist-turned-photographer whose snapshot of April’s riots in Baltimore graced the cover of Time magazine. Mosby and her husband, Baltimore city councilman Nick Mosby, showed up to Devin Allen’s premier, which was held at the Reginald F. Lewis Museum. ... Allen posted another picture of himself, the Mosbys and Baltimore photographer Robert Hughes posing together. Allen captioned the picture: “Black power all through this pic.” https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJg8PBiW8AEOoPC.jpg I hope she loses her job eventually. why? she represents the people of Baltimore extremely well. Isn't the job of the DA to represent Lady Justice? LOL, you should have seen Patricia Jessamy. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 9:11:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This weekend there's a national NAACP event. AG Lynch will speak. Obama will speak. Mosby will deliver the keynote speech. Looks like she's being handled so as to achieve higher office. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 12:53:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryShe should be brought up on charges. They knowingly falsely charged those officers with crimes they know they did not do and can't prove in court to calm the rioters. "sigh", She did it cause she saw an opening and wants to sit in the mayors chair, "why do I have to explain the simplest things here"? The riot itself was orchestrated by street gangs to get into the pharmacies and rob them of prescription Meds. I called this on the first day cause Ive seen orchestrated riots before. They stole a fortune in narcotics from these pharmacies http://www.wbaltv.com/news/dea-gangs-targeted-pharmacies-to-loot-during-riots/33269150 And fools still think it was about Freddie Gray, who was happily spending his life shoot gang supplied junk into his veins. In fact that riot was all about a young prosecutor wanting to move up a rung and the street gangs wanting an exuse to get into those Pharmacies and make a fortune. The human race really would have been better off not coming down from the tree's. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 2:35:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "sigh", She did it cause she saw an opening and wants to sit in the mayors chair, "why do I have to explain the simplest things here"? The riot itself was orchestrated by street gangs to get into the pharmacies and rob them of prescription Meds. I called this on the first day cause Ive seen orchestrated riots before. They stole a fortune in narcotics from these pharmacies http://www.wbaltv.com/news/dea-gangs-targeted-pharmacies-to-loot-during-riots/33269150 And fools still think it was about Freddie Gray, who was happily spending his life shoot gang supplied junk into his veins. In fact that riot was all about a young prosecutor wanting to move up a rung and the street gangs wanting an exuse to get into those Pharmacies and make a fortune. The human race really would have been better off not coming down from the tree's. Quote HistoryQuoted: She should be brought up on charges. They knowingly falsely charged those officers with crimes they know they did not do and can't prove in court to calm the rioters. "sigh", She did it cause she saw an opening and wants to sit in the mayors chair, "why do I have to explain the simplest things here"? The riot itself was orchestrated by street gangs to get into the pharmacies and rob them of prescription Meds. I called this on the first day cause Ive seen orchestrated riots before. They stole a fortune in narcotics from these pharmacies http://www.wbaltv.com/news/dea-gangs-targeted-pharmacies-to-loot-during-riots/33269150 And fools still think it was about Freddie Gray, who was happily spending his life shoot gang supplied junk into his veins. In fact that riot was all about a young prosecutor wanting to move up a rung and the street gangs wanting an exuse to get into those Pharmacies and make a fortune. The human race really would have been better off not coming down from the tree's. First off, Freddie Gray probably didn't shoot "gang supplied junk into his veins". He was a seller. The reason heroin was in his bloodstream is probably because he swallowed it when before he was taken into custody. Secondly, if you REALLY think the riot was staged so gangs could get their hands on percocet to sell, you're crazy. Do you REALLY think the "civil rights" leaders flooded to Baltimore and started a riot so gang members could get pharamceuticals to sell? It looks like you're the one who doesn't understand the simplest things. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 2:45:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First off, Freddie Gray probably didn't shoot "gang supplied junk into his veins". He was a seller. The reason heroin was in his bloodstream is probably because he swallowed it when before he was taken into custody. Secondly, if you REALLY think the riot was staged so gangs could get their hands on percocet to sell, you're crazy. Do you REALLY think the "civil rights" leaders flooded to Baltimore and started a riot so gang members could get pharamceuticals to sell? It looks like you're the one who doesn't understand the simplest things. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: She should be brought up on charges. They knowingly falsely charged those officers with crimes they know they did not do and can't prove in court to calm the rioters. "sigh", She did it cause she saw an opening and wants to sit in the mayors chair, "why do I have to explain the simplest things here"? The riot itself was orchestrated by street gangs to get into the pharmacies and rob them of prescription Meds. I called this on the first day cause Ive seen orchestrated riots before. They stole a fortune in narcotics from these pharmacies http://www.wbaltv.com/news/dea-gangs-targeted-pharmacies-to-loot-during-riots/33269150 And fools still think it was about Freddie Gray, who was happily spending his life shoot gang supplied junk into his veins. In fact that riot was all about a young prosecutor wanting to move up a rung and the street gangs wanting an exuse to get into those Pharmacies and make a fortune. The human race really would have been better off not coming down from the tree's. First off, Freddie Gray probably didn't shoot "gang supplied junk into his veins". He was a seller. The reason heroin was in his bloodstream is probably because he swallowed it when before he was taken into custody. Secondly, if you REALLY think the riot was staged so gangs could get their hands on percocet to sell, you're crazy. Do you REALLY think the "civil rights" leaders flooded to Baltimore and started a riot so gang members could get pharamceuticals to sell? It looks like you're the one who doesn't understand the simplest things. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 2:50:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For whatever reason the riots were started they were targeted and looted of TP and drugs something like 27 pharmacies were damaged Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: "sigh", She did it cause she saw an opening and wants to sit in the mayors chair, "why do I have to explain the simplest things here"? The riot itself was orchestrated by street gangs to get into the pharmacies and rob them of prescription Meds. I called this on the first day cause Ive seen orchestrated riots before. They stole a fortune in narcotics from these pharmacies http://www.wbaltv.com/news/dea-gangs-targeted-pharmacies-to-loot-during-riots/33269150 And fools still think it was about Freddie Gray, who was happily spending his life shoot gang supplied junk into his veins. In fact that riot was all about a young prosecutor wanting to move up a rung and the street gangs wanting an exuse to get into those Pharmacies and make a fortune. The human race really would have been better off not coming down from the tree's. First off, Freddie Gray probably didn't shoot "gang supplied junk into his veins". He was a seller. The reason heroin was in his bloodstream is probably because he swallowed it when before he was taken into custody. Secondly, if you REALLY think the riot was staged so gangs could get their hands on percocet to sell, you're crazy. Do you REALLY think the "civil rights" leaders flooded to Baltimore and started a riot so gang members could get pharamceuticals to sell? It looks like you're the one who doesn't understand the simplest things. Oh, I get that. In a riot, anything of value is going to be taken. But to say local gangs "orchestrated" these riots to get drugs to sell is ridiculous. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 3:09:05 PM EDT
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Man this case is going down the tubes, The DA is a flaming idiot and will not get a conviction on any of the officers. That is if they get a change of venue.
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Posted: 7/11/2015 4:29:51 PM EDT
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Defense attorneys request trove of documents from prosecutors' Freddie Gray investigation
Attorneys representing the six police officers charged in the arrest and death of Freddie Gray say Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby has not shared evidence from her office's independent investigation into the incident.
In a motion filed Friday in Baltimore Circuit Court, the attorneys sought a subpoena demanding that she turn it over. Mosby's office conducted an investigation, with the help of the Baltimore City sheriff's office, separate from the Police Department, which conducted its own probe. Gray died in April of severe spinal cord and other injuries sustained while in police custody. On the day Mosby announced charges against the officers, she said her team "worked around the clock — 12- and 14-hour days" — and recounted their work interviewing dozens of witnesses, watching hours of video footage, listening to hours of police videotaped statements, surveying the route of the van in which Gray was riding and reviewing voluminous medical records. But defense attorneys say Mosby didn't include files from the investigation when her office turned over evidence it expects to use in the case to the defense last month. ... |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 4:39:42 PM EDT
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Same shit they did against zman. Don't turn over the evidence/discovery the prosecutor must do by law.
Tells you all you need to know about the case. They don't have one and will pull every illegal trick they can. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 5:50:10 PM EDT
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"sigh", She did it cause she saw an opening and wants to sit in the mayors chair, "why do I have to explain the simplest things here"? The riot itself was orchestrated by street gangs to get into the pharmacies and rob them of prescription Meds. I called this on the first day cause Ive seen orchestrated riots before. They stole a fortune in narcotics from these pharmacies http://www.wbaltv.com/news/dea-gangs-targeted-pharmacies-to-loot-during-riots/33269150 And fools still think it was about Freddie Gray, who was happily spending his life shoot gang supplied junk into his veins. In fact that riot was all about a young prosecutor wanting to move up a rung and the street gangs wanting an exuse to get into those Pharmacies and make a fortune. The human race really would have been better off not coming down from the tree's. Quote HistoryQuoted:
She should be brought up on charges. They knowingly falsely charged those officers with crimes they know they did not do and can't prove in court to calm the rioters. "sigh", She did it cause she saw an opening and wants to sit in the mayors chair, "why do I have to explain the simplest things here"? The riot itself was orchestrated by street gangs to get into the pharmacies and rob them of prescription Meds. I called this on the first day cause Ive seen orchestrated riots before. They stole a fortune in narcotics from these pharmacies http://www.wbaltv.com/news/dea-gangs-targeted-pharmacies-to-loot-during-riots/33269150 And fools still think it was about Freddie Gray, who was happily spending his life shoot gang supplied junk into his veins. In fact that riot was all about a young prosecutor wanting to move up a rung and the street gangs wanting an exuse to get into those Pharmacies and make a fortune. The human race really would have been better off not coming down from the tree's. So the street gangs mobilized their army of thousands of rioters to create a giant diversion so that a bunch of pharmacies could get robbed, and THEY could get rich by selling the drugs to the people in their army? Was this diabolical plan in place, and just waiting for the cops to kill a black man so that everyone would think that's what the riot was about, or did the ingenious gang kingpins put it together on the fly, and call out the troops when the opportunity presented itself? |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 9:35:43 PM EDT
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So the street gangs mobilized their army of thousands of rioters to create a giant diversion so that a bunch of pharmacies could get robbed, and THEY could get rich by selling the drugs to the people in their army? Was this diabolical plan in place, and just waiting for the cops to kill a black man so that everyone would think that's what the riot was about, or did the ingenious gang kingpins put it together on the fly, and call out the troops when the opportunity presented itself? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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She should be brought up on charges. They knowingly falsely charged those officers with crimes they know they did not do and can't prove in court to calm the rioters. "sigh", She did it cause she saw an opening and wants to sit in the mayors chair, "why do I have to explain the simplest things here"? The riot itself was orchestrated by street gangs to get into the pharmacies and rob them of prescription Meds. I called this on the first day cause Ive seen orchestrated riots before. They stole a fortune in narcotics from these pharmacies http://www.wbaltv.com/news/dea-gangs-targeted-pharmacies-to-loot-during-riots/33269150 And fools still think it was about Freddie Gray, who was happily spending his life shoot gang supplied junk into his veins. In fact that riot was all about a young prosecutor wanting to move up a rung and the street gangs wanting an exuse to get into those Pharmacies and make a fortune. The human race really would have been better off not coming down from the tree's. So the street gangs mobilized their army of thousands of rioters to create a giant diversion so that a bunch of pharmacies could get robbed, and THEY could get rich by selling the drugs to the people in their army? Was this diabolical plan in place, and just waiting for the cops to kill a black man so that everyone would think that's what the riot was about, or did the ingenious gang kingpins put it together on the fly, and call out the troops when the opportunity presented itself? Don't read too much into his post. Crime is always about opportunity and profit. There was a coordinated attack on pharmacies. Was there any nefarious coordination or just opportunity will not be known. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 9:57:17 PM EDT
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She should be brought up on charges. They knowingly falsely charged those officers with crimes they know they did not do and can't prove in court to calm the rioters. "sigh", She did it cause she saw an opening and wants to sit in the mayors chair, "why do I have to explain the simplest things here"? The riot itself was orchestrated by street gangs to get into the pharmacies and rob them of prescription Meds. I called this on the first day cause Ive seen orchestrated riots before. They stole a fortune in narcotics from these pharmacies http://www.wbaltv.com/news/dea-gangs-targeted-pharmacies-to-loot-during-riots/33269150 And fools still think it was about Freddie Gray, who was happily spending his life shoot gang supplied junk into his veins. In fact that riot was all about a young prosecutor wanting to move up a rung and the street gangs wanting an exuse to get into those Pharmacies and make a fortune. The human race really would have been better off not coming down from the tree's. So the street gangs mobilized their army of thousands of rioters to create a giant diversion so that a bunch of pharmacies could get robbed, and THEY could get rich by selling the drugs to the people in their army? Was this diabolical plan in place, and just waiting for the cops to kill a black man so that everyone would think that's what the riot was about, or did the ingenious gang kingpins put it together on the fly, and call out the troops when the opportunity presented itself? Don't read too much into his post. Crime is always about opportunity and profit. There was a coordinated attack on pharmacies. Was there any nefarious coordination or just opportunity will not be known. You give animals way too much credit. They get wound up into a frenzy, and burn and loot for the fun of it. It's called wilding. The drug stores are a natural target of opportunity, just like the liquor stores. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 10:19:08 PM EDT
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And you underestimate that there is a firm command and control structure via gangs. They're not dumb unorganized animals.
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Posted: 7/11/2015 10:33:38 PM EDT
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And you underestimate that there is a firm command and control structure via gangs. They're not dumb unorganized animals. I never said that there wasn't, but take another look at the crowd doing the looting and rioting. Wild dumb animals. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 11:00:31 AM EDT
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Police accused in Freddie Gray's death say they gave statements under duress Three of six Baltimore police officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray argued in court filings this week that they provided statements to police investigators under duress because they feared losing their jobs.
Two of the officers said that when investigators asked them to provide statements about the circumstances surrounding Gray's arrest, they were led to believe they were doing so as witnesses — not as suspects. Another said she provided a statement without being advised of her Miranda rights, then was ordered to return five days later to be read her rights and provide another statement. Now those statements are key evidence in the case. Defense attorneys for Lt. Brian W. Rice, Officer William G. Porter and Sgt. Alicia D. White — all charged with manslaughter — have asked that those statements be suppressed, which would prevent prosecutors from using them in court. It is unclear what information the officers provided in the statements that Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby turned over to defense attorneys as part of discovery. Attorneys for Rice, Porter and White argued that their clients were not properly advised of their rights during their interrogations. Two other defendants, Officer Garrett E. Miller and Officer Edward M. Nero, made the same argument in earlier filings. "Because the defendants subjectively felt that any refusal to cooperate in the investigation would result in their termination, and such belief was objectively reasonable, and because they were asked to waive their Fifth Amendment rights, their statements" should be suppressed, attorneys for Rice and Porter argued in a motion. Mosby's office did not respond to a request for comment. ... |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 3:09:06 PM EDT
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Haven't seen this posted about Mosby's 5 Generations of Law Enforcement
Mosby's Dad (and his partner) were fired for robbing and beating the shit out of drug dealers.
Her Mom (Linda Thompson) was forced to resign from Boston PD for drug use, just like her brother (Preston Thompson, Mosby's Uncle). Harry Thompson (Preston's brother) was also fired from Boston PD for violating three Dept policies during the same incident (unknown what the incident is - but it apparently is highly unusually for someone to get fired for this  ).
BTW; Mosby's quote of “To the rank-and-file officers of the Baltimore City Police Department, please know that these accusations of these six officers are not an indictment on the entire force,” said Mosby. “I come from five generations of law enforcement. My father was an officer. My mother was an officer. Several of my aunts and uncles.” Is she equating the actions of her family to all of Law Enforcement? As it seems that the only member of her family that took the oath as a Police Officer to heart, was her Grandfather, who retired due to loss of an eye. Also did she try to pump up her cred like any true liberal, by stating generations instead of members? 
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Posted: 7/18/2015 3:12:56 PM EDT
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Haven't seen this posted about Mosby's 5 Generations of Law Enforcement Mosby's Dad (and his partner) were fired for robbing and beating the shit out of drug dealers.
Her Mom (Linda Thompson) was forced to resign from Boston PD for drug use, just like her brother (Preston Thompson, Mosby's Uncle). Harry Thompson (Preston's brother) was also fired from Boston PD for violating three Dept policies during the same incident (unknown what the incident is - but it apparently is highly unusually for someone to get fired for this ).
BTW; Mosby's quote of Is she equating the actions of her family to all of Law Enforcement? As it seems that the only member of her family that took the oath as a Police Officer to heart, was her Grandfather, who retired due to loss of an eye. Also did she try to pump up her cred like any true liberal, by stating generations instead of members?
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Haven't seen this posted about Mosby's 5 Generations of Law Enforcement Mosby's Dad (and his partner) were fired for robbing and beating the shit out of drug dealers.
Her Mom (Linda Thompson) was forced to resign from Boston PD for drug use, just like her brother (Preston Thompson, Mosby's Uncle). Harry Thompson (Preston's brother) was also fired from Boston PD for violating three Dept policies during the same incident (unknown what the incident is - but it apparently is highly unusually for someone to get fired for this ).
BTW; Mosby's quote of “To the rank-and-file officers of the Baltimore City Police Department, please know that these accusations of these six officers are not an indictment on the entire force,” said Mosby. “I come from five generations of law enforcement. My father was an officer. My mother was an officer. Several of my aunts and uncles.” Is she equating the actions of her family to all of Law Enforcement? As it seems that the only member of her family that took the oath as a Police Officer to heart, was her Grandfather, who retired due to loss of an eye. Also did she try to pump up her cred like any true liberal, by stating generations instead of members?
Ed The White Sheep in Mosby's Family Tree Further Reading About Mosby's Family I saw this earlier this week. Dad was fired and mom and uncle forced to resign. Hmm, might she be anti-police? |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 3:30:25 PM EDT
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Police accused in Freddie Gray's death say they gave statements under duress Three of six Baltimore police officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray argued in court filings this week that they provided statements to police investigators under duress because they feared losing their jobs.
Two of the officers said that when investigators asked them to provide statements about the circumstances surrounding Gray's arrest, they were led to believe they were doing so as witnesses — not as suspects. Another said she provided a statement without being advised of her Miranda rights, then was ordered to return five days later to be read her rights and provide another statement. Now those statements are key evidence in the case. Defense attorneys for Lt. Brian W. Rice, Officer William G. Porter and Sgt. Alicia D. White — all charged with manslaughter — have asked that those statements be suppressed, which would prevent prosecutors from using them in court. It is unclear what information the officers provided in the statements that Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby turned over to defense attorneys as part of discovery. Attorneys for Rice, Porter and White argued that their clients were not properly advised of their rights during their interrogations. Two other defendants, Officer Garrett E. Miller and Officer Edward M. Nero, made the same argument in earlier filings. "Because the defendants subjectively felt that any refusal to cooperate in the investigation would result in their termination, and such belief was objectively reasonable, and because they were asked to waive their Fifth Amendment rights, their statements" should be suppressed, attorneys for Rice and Porter argued in a motion. Mosby's office did not respond to a request for comment. ... Weak arguments. On the part in red, are they complaining that a common police interrogation technique was used against them? Gasp! I'm shocked. They should have been taught the first thing out of their mouths should have been "Am I a subject of this investigation?" |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 4:01:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weak arguments. On the part in red, are they complaining that a common police interrogation technique was used against them? Gasp! I'm shocked. They should have been taught the first thing out of their mouths should have been "Am I a subject of this investigation?" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Police accused in Freddie Gray's death say they gave statements under duress Three of six Baltimore police officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray argued in court filings this week that they provided statements to police investigators under duress because they feared losing their jobs. Two of the officers said that when investigators asked them to provide statements about the circumstances surrounding Gray's arrest, they were led to believe they were doing so as witnesses — not as suspects. Another said she provided a statement without being advised of her Miranda rights, then was ordered to return five days later to be read her rights and provide another statement. Now those statements are key evidence in the case. Defense attorneys for Lt. Brian W. Rice, Officer William G. Porter and Sgt. Alicia D. White — all charged with manslaughter — have asked that those statements be suppressed, which would prevent prosecutors from using them in court. It is unclear what information the officers provided in the statements that Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby turned over to defense attorneys as part of discovery. Attorneys for Rice, Porter and White argued that their clients were not properly advised of their rights during their interrogations. Two other defendants, Officer Garrett E. Miller and Officer Edward M. Nero, made the same argument in earlier filings. "Because the defendants subjectively felt that any refusal to cooperate in the investigation would result in their termination, and such belief was objectively reasonable, and because they were asked to waive their Fifth Amendment rights, their statements" should be suppressed, attorneys for Rice and Porter argued in a motion. Mosby's office did not respond to a request for comment. ... Weak arguments. On the part in red, are they complaining that a common police interrogation technique was used against them? Gasp! I'm shocked. They should have been taught the first thing out of their mouths should have been "Am I a subject of this investigation?" |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 4:25:36 PM EDT
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Police accused in Freddie Gray's death say they gave statements under duress Three of six Baltimore police officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray argued in court filings this week that they provided statements to police investigators under duress because they feared losing their jobs.
Two of the officers said that when investigators asked them to provide statements about the circumstances surrounding Gray's arrest, they were led to believe they were doing so as witnesses — not as suspects. Another said she provided a statement without being advised of her Miranda rights, then was ordered to return five days later to be read her rights and provide another statement. Now those statements are key evidence in the case. Defense attorneys for Lt. Brian W. Rice, Officer William G. Porter and Sgt. Alicia D. White — all charged with manslaughter — have asked that those statements be suppressed, which would prevent prosecutors from using them in court. It is unclear what information the officers provided in the statements that Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby turned over to defense attorneys as part of discovery. Attorneys for Rice, Porter and White argued that their clients were not properly advised of their rights during their interrogations. Two other defendants, Officer Garrett E. Miller and Officer Edward M. Nero, made the same argument in earlier filings. "Because the defendants subjectively felt that any refusal to cooperate in the investigation would result in their termination, and such belief was objectively reasonable, and because they were asked to waive their Fifth Amendment rights, their statements" should be suppressed, attorneys for Rice and Porter argued in a motion. Mosby's office did not respond to a request for comment. ... Weak arguments. On the part in red, are they complaining that a common police interrogation technique was used against them? Gasp! I'm shocked. They should have been taught the first thing out of their mouths should have been "Am I a subject of this investigation?" This also applies to the complaint that she wasn't advised of her Miranda rights. Bitch, it is part of your job to know what those are so you can advise others of their rights. Weak ass argument. |
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Posted: 7/19/2015 8:04:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/19/2015 8:53:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIdiot she is. Just wait and see what happens when the LEO's walk. |
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Posted: 7/20/2015 3:57:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This also applies to the complaint that she wasn't advised of her Miranda rights. Bitch, it is part of your job to know what those are so you can advise others of their rights. Weak ass argument. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Police accused in Freddie Gray's death say they gave statements under duress Three of six Baltimore police officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray argued in court filings this week that they provided statements to police investigators under duress because they feared losing their jobs. Two of the officers said that when investigators asked them to provide statements about the circumstances surrounding Gray's arrest, they were led to believe they were doing so as witnesses — not as suspects. Another said she provided a statement without being advised of her Miranda rights, then was ordered to return five days later to be read her rights and provide another statement. Now those statements are key evidence in the case. Defense attorneys for Lt. Brian W. Rice, Officer William G. Porter and Sgt. Alicia D. White — all charged with manslaughter — have asked that those statements be suppressed, which would prevent prosecutors from using them in court. It is unclear what information the officers provided in the statements that Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby turned over to defense attorneys as part of discovery. Attorneys for Rice, Porter and White argued that their clients were not properly advised of their rights during their interrogations. Two other defendants, Officer Garrett E. Miller and Officer Edward M. Nero, made the same argument in earlier filings. "Because the defendants subjectively felt that any refusal to cooperate in the investigation would result in their termination, and such belief was objectively reasonable, and because they were asked to waive their Fifth Amendment rights, their statements" should be suppressed, attorneys for Rice and Porter argued in a motion. Mosby's office did not respond to a request for comment. ... Weak arguments. On the part in red, are they complaining that a common police interrogation technique was used against them? Gasp! I'm shocked. They should have been taught the first thing out of their mouths should have been "Am I a subject of this investigation?" This also applies to the complaint that she wasn't advised of her Miranda rights. Bitch, it is part of your job to know what those are so you can advise others of their rights. Weak ass argument. She may as a LEO deal with the Miranda Warnings daily. But that does not preclude her from not being advised of her rights when she is being investigated of a crime. Putting someone into a Paddywagon and being charged with Murder for it, is something that does not happen in the course of a normal day. Also another way to look at it is, with all the Cop Shows that have been on since the 60's, haven't people learned of their MR's by now? So why can't the Police just start asking questions as soon as the cuffs go on? Ed |
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Posted: 7/20/2015 4:17:14 PM EDT
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Police accused in Freddie Gray's death say they gave statements under duress Three of six Baltimore police officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray argued in court filings this week that they provided statements to police investigators under duress because they feared losing their jobs.
Two of the officers said that when investigators asked them to provide statements about the circumstances surrounding Gray's arrest, they were led to believe they were doing so as witnesses — not as suspects. Another said she provided a statement without being advised of her Miranda rights, then was ordered to return five days later to be read her rights and provide another statement. Now those statements are key evidence in the case. Defense attorneys for Lt. Brian W. Rice, Officer William G. Porter and Sgt. Alicia D. White — all charged with manslaughter — have asked that those statements be suppressed, which would prevent prosecutors from using them in court. It is unclear what information the officers provided in the statements that Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby turned over to defense attorneys as part of discovery. Attorneys for Rice, Porter and White argued that their clients were not properly advised of their rights during their interrogations. Two other defendants, Officer Garrett E. Miller and Officer Edward M. Nero, made the same argument in earlier filings. "Because the defendants subjectively felt that any refusal to cooperate in the investigation would result in their termination, and such belief was objectively reasonable, and because they were asked to waive their Fifth Amendment rights, their statements" should be suppressed, attorneys for Rice and Porter argued in a motion. Mosby's office did not respond to a request for comment. ... Weak arguments. On the part in red, are they complaining that a common police interrogation technique was used against them? Gasp! I'm shocked. They should have been taught the first thing out of their mouths should have been "Am I a subject of this investigation?" You don't understand Garrity very well. It's a valid argument. If true those statements are going to get tossed. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/20/2015 4:32:41 PM EDT
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You don't understand Garrity very well. It's a valid argument. If true those statements are going to get tossed. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Police accused in Freddie Gray's death say they gave statements under duress Three of six Baltimore police officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray argued in court filings this week that they provided statements to police investigators under duress because they feared losing their jobs.
Two of the officers said that when investigators asked them to provide statements about the circumstances surrounding Gray's arrest, they were led to believe they were doing so as witnesses — not as suspects. Another said she provided a statement without being advised of her Miranda rights, then was ordered to return five days later to be read her rights and provide another statement. Now those statements are key evidence in the case. Defense attorneys for Lt. Brian W. Rice, Officer William G. Porter and Sgt. Alicia D. White — all charged with manslaughter — have asked that those statements be suppressed, which would prevent prosecutors from using them in court. It is unclear what information the officers provided in the statements that Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby turned over to defense attorneys as part of discovery. Attorneys for Rice, Porter and White argued that their clients were not properly advised of their rights during their interrogations. Two other defendants, Officer Garrett E. Miller and Officer Edward M. Nero, made the same argument in earlier filings. "Because the defendants subjectively felt that any refusal to cooperate in the investigation would result in their termination, and such belief was objectively reasonable, and because they were asked to waive their Fifth Amendment rights, their statements" should be suppressed, attorneys for Rice and Porter argued in a motion. Mosby's office did not respond to a request for comment. ... Weak arguments. On the part in red, are they complaining that a common police interrogation technique was used against them? Gasp! I'm shocked. They should have been taught the first thing out of their mouths should have been "Am I a subject of this investigation?" You don't understand Garrity very well. It's a valid argument. If true those statements are going to get tossed. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile DON'T BRING FACTS HERE SIR! |
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Posted: 7/20/2015 7:11:27 PM EDT
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You don't understand Garrity very well. It's a valid argument. If true those statements are going to get tossed. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Police accused in Freddie Gray's death say they gave statements under duress Three of six Baltimore police officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray argued in court filings this week that they provided statements to police investigators under duress because they feared losing their jobs.
Two of the officers said that when investigators asked them to provide statements about the circumstances surrounding Gray's arrest, they were led to believe they were doing so as witnesses — not as suspects. Another said she provided a statement without being advised of her Miranda rights, then was ordered to return five days later to be read her rights and provide another statement. Now those statements are key evidence in the case. Defense attorneys for Lt. Brian W. Rice, Officer William G. Porter and Sgt. Alicia D. White — all charged with manslaughter — have asked that those statements be suppressed, which would prevent prosecutors from using them in court. It is unclear what information the officers provided in the statements that Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby turned over to defense attorneys as part of discovery. Attorneys for Rice, Porter and White argued that their clients were not properly advised of their rights during their interrogations. Two other defendants, Officer Garrett E. Miller and Officer Edward M. Nero, made the same argument in earlier filings. "Because the defendants subjectively felt that any refusal to cooperate in the investigation would result in their termination, and such belief was objectively reasonable, and because they were asked to waive their Fifth Amendment rights, their statements" should be suppressed, attorneys for Rice and Porter argued in a motion. Mosby's office did not respond to a request for comment. ... Weak arguments. On the part in red, are they complaining that a common police interrogation technique was used against them? Gasp! I'm shocked. They should have been taught the first thing out of their mouths should have been "Am I a subject of this investigation?" You don't understand Garrity very well. It's a valid argument. If true those statements are going to get tossed. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Never heard of Garrity... I'm just going by what I was taught as a baby Naval Officer - and that was heavily emphasized as the first words out of your mouth any time you were talking to an investigating officer of any kind. Please do expound. |
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Posted: 7/20/2015 8:04:20 PM EDT
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Police accused in Freddie Gray's death say they gave statements under duress Three of six Baltimore police officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray argued in court filings this week that they provided statements to police investigators under duress because they feared losing their jobs.
Two of the officers said that when investigators asked them to provide statements about the circumstances surrounding Gray's arrest, they were led to believe they were doing so as witnesses — not as suspects. Another said she provided a statement without being advised of her Miranda rights, then was ordered to return five days later to be read her rights and provide another statement. Now those statements are key evidence in the case. Defense attorneys for Lt. Brian W. Rice, Officer William G. Porter and Sgt. Alicia D. White — all charged with manslaughter — have asked that those statements be suppressed, which would prevent prosecutors from using them in court. It is unclear what information the officers provided in the statements that Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby turned over to defense attorneys as part of discovery. Attorneys for Rice, Porter and White argued that their clients were not properly advised of their rights during their interrogations. Two other defendants, Officer Garrett E. Miller and Officer Edward M. Nero, made the same argument in earlier filings. "Because the defendants subjectively felt that any refusal to cooperate in the investigation would result in their termination, and such belief was objectively reasonable, and because they were asked to waive their Fifth Amendment rights, their statements" should be suppressed, attorneys for Rice and Porter argued in a motion. Mosby's office did not respond to a request for comment. ... Weak arguments. On the part in red, are they complaining that a common police interrogation technique was used against them? Gasp! I'm shocked. They should have been taught the first thing out of their mouths should have been "Am I a subject of this investigation?" You don't understand Garrity very well. It's a valid argument. If true those statements are going to get tossed. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Never heard of Garrity... I'm just going by what I was taught as a baby Naval Officer - and that was heavily emphasized as the first words out of your mouth any time you were talking to an investigating officer of any kind. Please do expound. Garrity v. New Jersey |
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