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Posted: 4/16/2015 10:23:22 AM EDT
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/04/16/a-few-reasons-i-like-the-kalashnikov-better-than-the-ar-15/ Phone will not let me make the link hot so sorry about that. Anyways I generally like TFB, but today's article has me shaking my head. The article reads to me like a herpa derp bubba gun shop BS. The best part was the comparison of 5.56 vs 5.45 in which TFB states 5.45 is a ballistician delight and is the true second generation SCHV round, while 5.56 represents a first generation concept. Anyways, thought everyone would enjoy picking apart this stupid article. Especially RustedAce. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 10:24:21 AM EDT
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....for me to poop on!
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Posted: 4/16/2015 10:24:48 AM EDT
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/04/16/a-few-reasons-i-like-the-kalashnikov-better-than-the-ar-15/ Phone will not let me make the link hot so sorry about that. Anyways I generally like TFB, but today's article has me shaking my head. The article reads to me like a herpa derp bubba gun shop BS. The best part was the comparison of 5.56 vs 5.45 in which TFB states 5.45 is a ballistician delight and is the true second generation SCHV round, while 5.56 represents a first generation concept. Anyways, thought everyone would enjoy picking apart this stupid article. Especially RustedAce. Rusted ace is going to have a conniption. Cue the "different war" 
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Posted: 4/16/2015 10:28:16 AM EDT
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Is this the article from the Air Force bubba?
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Posted: 4/16/2015 10:29:28 AM EDT
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Is this the article from the Air Force bubba? Nope the Part time historical researcher wrote that one. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 10:29:57 AM EDT
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Is this the article by the AF pogue sumbich "marksman" or someone else?
ETA: nvm |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 10:33:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/16/2015 10:53:17 AM EDT
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Any AR vs. AK discussion that hinges on ammo or caliber is completely asinine. You can buy or build either weapon in any flavor you like.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 10:57:40 AM EDT
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Any AR vs. AK discussion that hinges on ammo or caliber is completely asinine. You can buy or build either weapon in flavor you like. But 5.56 first gen, 5.45 second gen....don't you get it! |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 12:39:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/16/2015 12:46:33 PM EDT
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5.45 is better because the ammo is mildly corrosive, and cleaning guns is fun!
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Posted: 4/16/2015 12:52:16 PM EDT
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5.45 is better because the ammo is mildly corrosive, and cleaning guns is fun! I need to join the TFB AK4LYFE group they have in that comment section. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 12:57:48 PM EDT
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My takeaway - if Gwynneth Paltrow was to write a gun article, this is the article she would write.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:06:17 PM EDT
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My takeaway - if Gwynneth Paltrow was to write a gun article, this is the article she would write. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:08:42 PM EDT
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Nathaniel is a part-time historical researcher, and an apprentice small arms know-it-all, hailing from the land of the Atlantic Blue Crab. One hell of a resume... 
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:10:56 PM EDT
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One hell of a resume... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Nathaniel is a part-time historical researcher, and an apprentice small arms know-it-all, hailing from the land of the Atlantic Blue Crab. One hell of a resume... Nebulous qualifications, know it all attitude, apparently into crab meat... What's this dude's screen name? |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:11:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryMark 87 T.U.R.D. Tactical Urban Response Dumpster 
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:12:56 PM EDT
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S&W AR15's come chambered for older gen1 bullets and include outdated gen2 magazines.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:13:38 PM EDT
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Tagged for later reading.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:14:59 PM EDT
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Such butthurt over the black barbie doll...
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:17:15 PM EDT
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He is free to like what he wants to like.
Not really a AK vs AR comparison in any original, meaningful, or thoughtful way, more along the lines of a fluffy love letter to an inanimate object. Whatever  |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:17:19 PM EDT
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S&W AR15's come chambered for older gen1 bullets and include outdated gen2 magazines. Everyone knows the superior AK uses Gen 2 ammo and Gen 3 mags. Time we catch up to the Commies. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:22:14 PM EDT
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Well, it does say "why I like it" and not "why it's better" so there's that.
I just prefer the charging handle setup myself. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:28:37 PM EDT
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AR fanboys sure do get feisty when someone's personal preferences don't match their own. The derp in this thread is sure to match the derp in the article, but will likely surpass it.
Doesn't matter anyways, because bullpups > all. ETA: too fucking easy 
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:32:06 PM EDT
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I wonder if it was written by either of the different war retreads.
7n6's dupe account who called me a race traitor, or Lilly white or some shit for liking Hispanic and black chics yet got mad about the ak lovers being 88er jokes or peterglenho mr different war himself who kept bragging about his imaginary fortune and how doing crossfit and being friends with gate guards made him basically SF for the coming revolution where he would be the new George Washington  .
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:33:48 PM EDT
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AR fanboys sure do get fiesty when someone's personal preferences don't match their own. The derp in this thread is sure to match the derp in the article, but will likely surpass it. Doesn't matter anyways, because bullpups > all. 
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:39:03 PM EDT
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Article reads like it's written by a collector, but not a user. I've owned a couple AK's, and shot them a little bit. I can say I despise the safety, despise the mag release, despise the undersized stock, and the crude sights. Those are all "use based" complaints. As compared to "I can cycle it with the dust cover off" and "it looks cool". Those are things that people say about safe queens.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:39:17 PM EDT
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AR fanboys sure do get fiesty when someone's personal preferences don't match their own. The derp in this thread is sure to match the derp in the article, but will likely surpass it. Doesn't matter anyways, because bullpups > all. http://rs1118.pbsrc.com/albums/k607/fugitive13/47EF5175-66B3-4B22-A971-570629B9D04F-4778-00000923FD1BB0B5.jpg~320x480 
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:39:29 PM EDT
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AR fanboys sure do get fiesty when someone's personal preferences don't match their own. The derp in this thread is sure to match the derp in the article, but will likely surpass it. Doesn't matter anyways, because bullpups > all. http://rs1118.pbsrc.com/albums/k607/fugitive13/47EF5175-66B3-4B22-A971-570629B9D04F-4778-00000923FD1BB0B5.jpg~320x480 Bullpups and AKs are like smoking clove cigarettes in highschool... you do it to because it's edgy and cool. Conformist AR platform assholes
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:40:20 PM EDT
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One hell of a resume... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Nathaniel is a part-time historical researcher, and an apprentice small arms know-it-all, hailing from the land of the Atlantic Blue Crab. One hell of a resume... I hope that land is Louisiana, not Maryland. I'd expect better educated gun owners in Maryland. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:44:05 PM EDT
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The reasons he lists are even good...
"The AK allows the user to “get under the hood” in a way that few other rifles do." Yeah, the AR and it's take down pin are real complicated to get past.
"The AK today represents the Old World of manufacturing holding its ground against modern total-interchangeability mass production. Many AK parts are file-fitted..." Fuck standardized, inter-changable parts! "...the 5.45mm is decidedly superior to the 5.56mm"
"Every criticism I have of the M1 rifle has been addressed in Kalashnikov’s adaptation of it, and all the best design characteristics are retained." 
"The Kalashnikov scores extremely well in cold weather performance" Might be onto something with that one, but I think there are plenty of folks here who have posted about cold weather training with the AR and no issues related to functioning. "It has Hollywood good looks" Herp. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:45:02 PM EDT
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AR fanboys sure do get fiesty when someone's personal preferences don't match their own. The derp in this thread is sure to match the derp in the article, but will likely surpass it. Doesn't matter anyways, because bullpups > all. 
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:46:58 PM EDT
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Accuracy sucks.
Stock sucks. Safety sucks. Sights suck. Mag changes suck. Optic mounting sucks. CH location sucks. AKs suck. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:48:02 PM EDT
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The 5.45 is better than the 5.56! Oh, hold on, you're serious! Allow me to laugh even harder. 
So he admits it's slower, less efficient, with less energy, a lighter bullet, and fewer projectile options, all wrapped in a shitty lacquered steel case with a fucked-up taper just to get it to feed and extract... And then says it's better because the 62gr bullet weight, in general, isn't that great for 5.56. Well, shit, if M855 is the standard we're using to compare rounds, then fucking 300BLK is awesome, too!
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:54:26 PM EDT
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I wonder if it was written by either of the different war retreads. 7n6's dupe account who called me a race traitor, or Lilly white or some shit for liking Hispanic and black chics yet got mad about the ak lovers being 88er jokes or peterglenho mr different war himself who kept bragging about his imaginary fortune and how doing crossfit and being friends with gate guards made him basically SF for the coming revolution where he would be the new George Washington .Well... It just got a little feisty in here... |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 3:04:22 PM EDT
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AR fanboys sure do get fiesty when someone's personal preferences don't match their own. The derp in this thread is sure to match the derp in the article, but will likely surpass it. Doesn't matter anyways, because bullpups > all. http://rs1118.pbsrc.com/albums/k607/fugitive13/47EF5175-66B3-4B22-A971-570629B9D04F-4778-00000923FD1BB0B5.jpg~320x480 Never go full retard. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 3:06:41 PM EDT
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I have checked every trashcan and they are always gone.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 3:10:24 PM EDT
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Never go full retard. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AR fanboys sure do get fiesty when someone's personal preferences don't match their own. The derp in this thread is sure to match the derp in the article, but will likely surpass it. Doesn't matter anyways, because bullpups > all. http://rs1118.pbsrc.com/albums/k607/fugitive13/47EF5175-66B3-4B22-A971-570629B9D04F-4778-00000923FD1BB0B5.jpg~320x480 Never go full retard. I could smoke all of you with my Tavor with iron sights at 600 yards. I thank nutnfancy for getting me into the gun. My militia recently made me a colonel because of my marksmanship abilities, and I teach all the new recruits how to shoot in our 2 hour boot camp. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 3:25:24 PM EDT
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Every criticism I have of the M1 rifle has been addressed in Kalashnikov’s adaptation of it, and all the best design characteristics are retained. Except for the one thing that actually matters, the damn sights.
ETA: They also did not retain the safety of the M1 Garand rifle, which is far superior than the AK's version shamelessly stolen from the Remington Model 8. Shit the M1 is still a better rifle in every way save for magazine capacity, and the M-14 variant has that covered. 
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Posted: 4/16/2015 3:30:14 PM EDT
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I quit reading TFB a long time ago because of the retards there. Every now and then I'll skim it, shake my head and remember why it's been so long since the last time I skimmed it
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Posted: 4/16/2015 3:38:41 PM EDT
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M16A1 is the best AR. The more I shoot the more I like everything about it. That is all.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 3:44:12 PM EDT
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I could smoke all of you with my Tavor with iron sights at 600 yards. I thank nutnfancy for getting me into the gun. My militia recently made me a colonel because of my marksmanship abilities, and I teach all the new recruits how to shoot in our 2 hour boot camp. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AR fanboys sure do get fiesty when someone's personal preferences don't match their own. The derp in this thread is sure to match the derp in the article, but will likely surpass it. Doesn't matter anyways, because bullpups > all. http://rs1118.pbsrc.com/albums/k607/fugitive13/47EF5175-66B3-4B22-A971-570629B9D04F-4778-00000923FD1BB0B5.jpg~320x480 Never go full retard. I could smoke all of you with my Tavor with iron sights at 600 yards. I thank nutnfancy for getting me into the gun. My militia recently made me a colonel because of my marksmanship abilities, and I teach all the new recruits how to shoot in our 2 hour boot camp. Don't you mean your prized mosin in a bullpup stock? Or is ya the big money FBI informant? 
I like some bullpups try to go to the bullpup shoot every year (missed the 2012) and have owned a few but the AR is far more versitile and a better general issue weapon at this point in time. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 3:46:32 PM EDT
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I could smoke all of you with my Tavor with iron sights at 600 yards. I thank nutnfancy for getting me into the gun. My militia recently made me a colonel because of my marksmanship abilities, and I teach all the new recruits how to shoot in our 2 hour boot camp. You've won me over. Where do I sign up for "boot camp"? Also, I'll bring fried chicken. You prefer original or extra crispy colonel? 
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Posted: 4/16/2015 3:48:25 PM EDT
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Lol.
M193 and M855 are decidedly superior to 7N6. Terminal ballistics wise, the 5.45 ain't too bad with Wolf soft points. (Of course, the AR has a shitload of options that blow that out of the water.) |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 4:05:40 PM EDT
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/04/16/a-few-reasons-i-like-the-kalashnikov-better-than-the-ar-15/ Just seen this thread on my computer and decided to open my new Note edge to see if I could hotlink. This is only a test. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 4:12:54 PM EDT
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Purse swinging amuses me tremendously. Keep at it ladies.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 4:23:51 PM EDT
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The only issue I've got is the 5.45 vs 5.56 points he made.
You're pretty much limited to what...2 or 3 types of 5.45? With 5.56, you can walk I to any gun shop and find myriads oft hoes of ammo for different tasks...and the last time I looked...I don't think Barnes made a TSX for the 5.45. There is more to using a rifle than carbine matches, training classes and jacking off to SHTF fantasies...and the .223/5.56 is way more versatile. Well...that issue and that AKs suck donkey balls. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 4:31:24 PM EDT
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Lol at 5.45 being a better bullet.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 4:31:51 PM EDT
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Author is a faggot.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 4:35:10 PM EDT
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I'm in the market for a fun gun and the PSA AK perked my interest. I've never even held an AK, so clueless.
That CZ Scorpion seems likely to find its way home at this point! Didn't read. |
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