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Posted: 4/14/2015 8:55:05 PM EDT
Today, I finally found the time to start laying down trees for this upcoming firewood season

I should have the mostly cherry, sycamore, maple and oak completely cut in lengths and split in a few weeks (several cords)

I understand that ideally, wood should season at least 12 mos.
I'm concerned that the moisture content of the wood I split now won't be in the recommended low to mid 20% by the start of the season (October)

I searched and ran across this simple 'Holz Hausen' method of stacking and drying wood reasonably quick (generally long, hot, but humid summers here)
The logic is that it creates a chimney effect
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/fluckiger132.html
Might give it a go

Just had a chimney sweep out and he ended up having to use a chemical to loosen the ten year build-up of creosote
I was burning some wet stuff in years past and now I recently had a fireplace insert put in with a nice, new insulated chimney liner
Sure don't want to screw that up burning wet wood

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Today, I finally found the time to start laying down trees for this upcoming firewood season
I should have the mostly cherry, sycamore, maple and oak completely cut in lengths and split in a few weeks (several cords)
I understand that ideally, wood should season at least 12 mos.



I'm concerned that the moisture content of the wood I split now won't be in the recommended low to mid 20% by the start of the season (October)
I searched and ran across this simple 'Holz Hausen' method of stacking and drying wood reasonably quick (generally long, hot, but humid summers here)



The logic is that it creates a chimney effect



http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/fluckiger132.html



Might give it a go
Just had a chimney sweep out and he ended up having to use a chemical to loosen the ten year build-up of creosote



I was burning some wet stuff in years past and now I recently had a fireplace insert put in with a nice, new insulated chimney liner



Sure don't want to screw that up burning wet wood
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Split in Half, quarter, 8th's depending on how thick the limb or tunk was. Bark up. Two rows deep and 5 -6 feet high and 10 feet long oh and covered with a tarp. Not completely though. Did this for many years. Never an issue
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 9:32:41 PM EDT
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I cover mine in clear polly. Stack a few logs high in the center, and run a PVC ridge pole over my rows. I then staple the polly to my wood so the wind wont take it off. Makes a nice little green house for my wood. Seems to dry it out rather well.. I have 6 face cord stacked now, once I get about 6 more, if this thread is still alive Ill post a pic.
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Split in Half, quarter, 8th's depending on how thick the limb or tunk was. Bark up. Two rows deep and 5 -6 feet high and 10 feet long oh and covered with a tarp. Not completely though. Did this for many years. Never an issue
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Today, I finally found the time to start laying down trees for this upcoming firewood season

I should have the mostly cherry, sycamore, maple and oak completely cut in lengths and split in a few weeks (several cords)

I understand that ideally, wood should season at least 12 mos.
I'm concerned that the moisture content of the wood I split now won't be in the recommended low to mid 20% by the start of the season (October)

I searched and ran across this simple 'Holz Hausen' method of stacking and drying wood reasonably quick (generally long, hot, but humid summers here)
The logic is that it creates a chimney effect
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/fluckiger132.html
Might give it a go

Just had a chimney sweep out and he ended up having to use a chemical to loosen the ten year build-up of creosote
I was burning some wet stuff in years past and now I recently had a fireplace insert put in with a nice, new insulated chimney liner
Sure don't want to screw that up burning wet wood

Split in Half, quarter, 8th's depending on how thick the limb or tunk was. Bark up. Two rows deep and 5 -6 feet high and 10 feet long oh and covered with a tarp. Not completely though. Did this for many years. Never an issue


In seasons past, I admit I just kinda piled the wood in a heap
I may go your way (and it looks like a fine way to stack it) but it could put a strain on the space where I'm lining it all
The circular design of the Holz Hausen should save some room
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 9:42:12 PM EDT
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Bark down, covered.
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Let it go.
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I cover mine in clear polly. Stack a few logs high in the center, and run a PVC ridge pole over my rows. I then staple the polly to my wood so the wind wont take it off. Makes a nice little green house for my wood. Seems to dry it out rather well.. I have 6 face cord stacked now, once I get about 6 more, if this thread is still alive Ill post a pic.
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I would like to see your design
Do you keep the sides or top open for air circulation?
Does water condensate on the inside?
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 9:43:57 PM EDT
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On a super frigid day it gets down in the upper 40's.  That usually happens at least once per year.


The other days I warm up the hot tub and enjoy an adult beverage while contemplating what others up north are doing to stay warm.



Edit: grew up in the North, which is why I won't live there. That said, have seen the result of a creosote fire....,make darn sure that shit is dry!  Bad things happen when you burn "wet wood".
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 9:47:52 PM EDT
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I use gas.

But I guy I work with does this.
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 9:47:55 PM EDT
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Not mine, but I've always wanted to have enough spare time to try it
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In seasons past, I admit I just kinda piled the wood in a heap

I may go your way (and it looks like a fine way to stack it) but it could put a strain on the space where I'm lining it all

The circular design of the Holz Hausen should save some room
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Today, I finally found the time to start laying down trees for this upcoming firewood season



I should have the mostly cherry, sycamore, maple and oak completely cut in lengths and split in a few weeks (several cords)



I understand that ideally, wood should season at least 12 mos.

I'm concerned that the moisture content of the wood I split now won't be in the recommended low to mid 20% by the start of the season (October)



I searched and ran across this simple 'Holz Hausen' method of stacking and drying wood reasonably quick (generally long, hot, but humid summers here)

The logic is that it creates a chimney effect

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/fluckiger132.html

Might give it a go



Just had a chimney sweep out and he ended up having to use a chemical to loosen the ten year build-up of creosote

I was burning some wet stuff in years past and now I recently had a fireplace insert put in with a nice, new insulated chimney liner

Sure don't want to screw that up burning wet wood



Split in Half, quarter, 8th's depending on how thick the limb or tunk was. Bark up. Two rows deep and 5 -6 feet high and 10 feet long oh and covered with a tarp. Not completely though. Did this for many years. Never an issue




In seasons past, I admit I just kinda piled the wood in a heap

I may go your way (and it looks like a fine way to stack it) but it could put a strain on the space where I'm lining it all

The circular design of the Holz Hausen should save some room
Forgot to add. We used pallets to keep the wood off the ground and let it breathe a bit.

 
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Pretty sure only gay folks do it that way.

 
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On a super frigid day it gets down in the upper 40's.  That usually happens at least once per year.


The other days I warm up the hot tub and enjoy an adult beverage while contemplating what others up north are doing to stay warm.



Edit: grew up in the North, which is why I won't live there. That said, have seen the result of a creosote fire....,make darn sure that shit is dry!  Bad things happen when you burn "wet wood".
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Mine was very bad. I saw the video feed of it. I was lucky
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 9:50:21 PM EDT
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Between trees
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 9:53:20 PM EDT
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I don't use that much firewood so I stack half a cord in my garage next to my truck.











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I have a confession to make. This past winter was the first time in a long time that I actually bought firewood. Just worked out that way due to work loads and such. Anyway, the guy I bought my wood from had his stacked in a similar fashion but he had a barrel in the center of the circle that he kept a fire in. He checked the moisture content with a moisture meter and rotated the logs periodically.
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I would like to see your design
Do you keep the sides or top open for air circulation?
Does water condensate on the inside?
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I cover mine in clear polly. Stack a few logs high in the center, and run a PVC ridge pole over my rows. I then staple the polly to my wood so the wind wont take it off. Makes a nice little green house for my wood. Seems to dry it out rather well.. I have 6 face cord stacked now, once I get about 6 more, if this thread is still alive Ill post a pic.

I would like to see your design
Do you keep the sides or top open for air circulation?
Does water condensate on the inside?


Poly goes about 1/2 the way down on the sides.. Stack it so the wind can blow between each row.. If you stack the middle higher, like I said and have a ridge pole and the tarp its taught the condensation will roll down the slopes and not drop back on the the wood.
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 9:57:40 PM EDT
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I recommend the Holz Hausen.

I put up some red oak 2 yrs. ago in a 7' dia. circle stacked 6' tall. It really works good for the oddly shaped limbs or difficult to stack pieces.

You just throw them in the center loosely. They dry just fine. They are not as seasoned as the outer ring...I don't care what the german's say.

It is waaay more attractive than rows.
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that's fuckin cool
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That's it
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I have a confession to make. This past winter was the first time in a long time that I actually bought firewood. Just worked out that way due to work loads and such. Anyway, the guy I bought my wood from had his stacked in a similar fashion but he had a barrel in the center of the circle that he kept a fire in. He checked the moisture content with a moisture meter and rotated the logs periodically.
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The barrel with a fire in the middle is interesting
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that's fuckin cool
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Not mine, but I've always wanted to have enough spare time to try it

that's fuckin cool

I'm not quite that motivated
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 10:10:11 PM EDT
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Cross stack on each end, fill the middle.  Longer cure time in the back.  Split into quarters (or more), as needed.  Shorter run on one end for the kindling...usually crossways from the rest...or, mixed in on one end of each row.
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 10:15:46 PM EDT
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I use the holz method.  I like the way they look,  and they don't fall down.  I throw shorts and uglies in the center to fill it up.  
This method, contrary to belief,  does not make it dry faster or create a chimney effect (even when leaving the interior hollow).  
Single stacked in the wind and sun is fastest.  Get a moisture meter and only burn wood that is below 20%. Generally,  one full year for softwoods, and up to 3 years for slow drying hardwoods like oak,  hickory, locust, etc.
Hearth.Com in the woodshed forum is a great resource.
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Not mine, but I've always wanted to have enough spare time to try it

that's fuckin cool

I'm not quite that motivated











Link Posted: 4/14/2015 10:18:02 PM EDT
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I have always just used deadfall or trees that have been knocked down for several years to cut up into firewood.  As far as stacking it I let the ranch hands do it.  
When I lived in the Texas Panhandle you had to buy wood because there probably wasn't two trees in the whole county unless they were in somebody's yard.
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Them mofos were bored.
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I use the holz method.  I like the way they look,  and they don't fall down.  I throw shorts and uglies in the center to fill it up.  
This method, contrary to belief,  does not make it dry faster or create a chimney effect (even when leaving the interior hollow).  
Single stacked in the wind and sun is fastest.  Get a moisture meter and only burn wood that is below 20%. Generally,  one full year for softwoods, and up to 3 years for slow drying hardwoods like oak,  hickory, locust, etc.
Hearth.Com in the woodshed forum is a great resource.
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Since a quicker dry is what I'm looking for, the single stack does seem to make more sense in drying time
Might have to make room
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 10:25:04 PM EDT
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Stack it loose and don't cover it until the fall. Put in an area where it gets plenty of wind or air circulation. Heat doesn't season wood, air/wind does.
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 10:25:21 PM EDT
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In 5' high rows in the lean-to I built, stacked with the length of the lean-to which faces north-west to south east and catches most of the wind I see end to end.
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I might have to try that . I have been doing long single rows . space is not an issue for me .
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Interesting.
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 10:40:54 PM EDT
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I'd build a fort.
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No doubt, but still impressive.
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 10:45:54 PM EDT
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Prevailing winds here pretty much blow from WSW or SSW in summer here

Ideally, I would have the ends face N/S (because of mowing and the way my fences are arranged) but I may adjust the ends/rows to face the prevailing winds
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 11:01:10 PM EDT
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I am going to try the holz hausen, looks kinda cool. I will get back to ya late november with a comparison to our usual stacks.


Good thread OP, and some people really have some time on their hands.
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I am going to try the holz hausen, looks kinda cool. I will get back to ya late november with a comparison to our usual stacks.


Good thread OP, and some people really have some time on their hands.
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I'm really back and forth on the idea. May just try both for comparisons sake

I have a couple weeks to decide but decide I must


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Split in Half, quarter, 8th's depending on how thick the limb or tunk was. Bark up. Two rows deep and 5 -6 feet high and 10 feet long oh and covered with a tarp. Not completely though. Did this for many years. Never an issue
Pretty sure only gay folks do it that way.  
Pics of wood pile?



 
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Do it with three wolves howling at the moon.
Link Posted: 4/15/2015 2:07:39 AM EDT
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I back up a full F150 load to the fence and drag it all out into a something barely resembling a stack.
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What a cool thread.
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How I stack my firewood...
















 
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Mine have been just a big, un stacked pile of wood. And then wondering why it's not dry come winter

Any creosote that enters into my insert and onto the catalyst will render it's efficiency nil (as well as the fire dangers, of course)

Moisture meter came with the insert so now I'll be a checkin' that wood

I'll either not burn or will buy dry wood before I put anything wet in it

Finished my coffee..... better get on it!

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Split in Half, quarter, 8th's depending on how thick the limb or tunk was. Bark up. Two rows deep and 5 -6 feet high and 10 feet long oh and covered with a tarp. Not completely though. Did this for many years. Never an issue
Pretty sure only gay folks do it that way.  
Pics of wood pile?

 
It's not COC friendly.

 
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What about building a pavilion right up next to your wood burner with possibly a back wall and a pretty open side wall with about 4 inches between panels.

ETA: Seems like a good idea to me anyway
Link Posted: 4/15/2015 12:00:04 PM EDT
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Holz-Hauzen is cute & makes pretty pictures.



I stack mine on pallets, BARK UP, 3 rows wide & 5 feet tall.  This stack is 40 feet long.  There is another on the other side of the Spruce trees that is 6 rows wide & 5 feet tall and 20 feet long, mostly because I got some bigger pallets.  There should be enough wood to get us through Winter 2016 & 2017.



I just unloaded a bunch of free used barn tin that I'm going to build a woodshed. Construction starts next week.






Link Posted: 4/15/2015 12:07:07 PM EDT
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I don't have the time for that shit.  I just stack it 2 or 3 logs deep on some pallets.  
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This is all shingle oak. It's all I've cut up so far this year.  This will be burned 2017 at the earliest. If it wasn't soo wet and I could make it to the back 40 without rutting everything up, I would take some pics of this year's and next year's wood. It doesn't look like it,  but there is roughly 7 cords inthe 2.5 stacks shown(those are 8ft wide and 7ft tall.  there's a small one in the background)

ETA: those stacks are full in the center as well
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