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Link Posted: 4/1/2015 4:26:42 PM EDT
[#1]
If somebody above me calls me sir I just call them sir back.

*shrug*
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 4:28:25 PM EDT
[#2]
I get "ma'am", "Deputy", "Officer", or "Ms. Glockgirl" regularly.  The only thing I get a little about is the old men who like to call me "Honey" or "Sweetheart" when they don't know me at all.  I don't shoot their dog or tase them though.

I "sir" and "ma'am" my way through my workday all the time.






Link Posted: 4/1/2015 4:29:04 PM EDT
[#3]
I work with people from all over the world. It does not bother me one way or another.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 4:42:27 PM EDT
[#4]
I prefer My Lord.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 4:42:46 PM EDT
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People ought to be treated with courtesy.  Having been raised in Texas, "sir" and "ma'am" were obligatory when speaking to an elder, a person of legal or religious authority, or  anyone new to you including the black man driving the garbage truck.

I teach.  My students call me Mr. Goldstein or Sir.  I do the same for them unless I call them by name.

Good manners has long-lasting benefits for all parties.

I can't comprehend how some people consider it demeaning to call someone else sir or ma'am.


As a native Texan, I agree with this post.

Nicely stated.




It's not a TX thing. It's a Golden Rule thing.
Rude people should be curb stomped with a Judith Martin book.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 4:43:43 PM EDT
[#6]
I can't control what others do, nor do I care.

I use Sir and Ma`am a lot.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 4:45:17 PM EDT
[#7]
"Sir" belongs in a military chain of command. When civilians do it, it sounds mocking or condescending.

I don't recall anybody at my work calling anyone "sir." It would have sounded completely out of place, since we all considered ourselves friends there.

On the other hand, in the few dealings I have had with the police, etc., they have invariably called me "sir." I have found this highly insulting, because it's said in such an obviously ironic sense.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 4:47:30 PM EDT
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i say it more often than not, yesir, thank ya sir or yes mam just slip off the tounge
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 4:53:09 PM EDT
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"Sir" belongs in a military chain of command. When civilians do it, it sounds mocking or condescending.

I don't recall anybody at my work calling anyone "sir." It would have sounded completely out of place, since we all considered ourselves friends there.

On the other hand, in the few dealings I have had with the police, etc., they have invariably called me "sir." I have found this highly insulting, because it's said in such an obviously ironic sense.
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Link Posted: 4/1/2015 4:57:38 PM EDT
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Well most have to call me sir anyway so I'm okay.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 5:23:41 PM EDT
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I learned to never call a woman "ma'am" while I was working at a grocery store in high school.

They all basically compared it to me saying, "Damn lady, you look old."

I still call unknown men, "sir."
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 5:26:11 PM EDT
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I get "ma'am", "Deputy", "Officer", or "Ms. Glockgirl" regularly.  The only thing I get a little about is the old men who like to call me "Honey" or "Sweetheart" when they don't know me at all.  I don't shoot their dog or tase them though.

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My brother is 43. He honey and sweethearts every woman he sees. drives me crazy
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 5:28:26 PM EDT
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I use both all the time. Along with Mister, Miss, and Missus, hon, darlin', sweetie, etc. I was born in the South, just habit. Also refer to people as "hoss" and "boss" and "sloop" no matter their status. Again, just a habit.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 5:30:38 PM EDT
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"My friends call me John but a son of a bitch screw like you better call me 'Mr. Dillinger.'"
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 5:31:44 PM EDT
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People ought to be treated with courtesy.  Having been raised in Texas, "sir" and "ma'am" were obligatory when speaking to an elder, a person of legal or religious authority, or  anyone new to you including the black man driving the garbage truck.

I teach.  My students call me Mr. Goldstein or Sir.  I do the same for them unless I call them by name.

Good manners has long-lasting benefits for all parties.

I can't comprehend how some people consider it demeaning to call someone else sir or ma'am.
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Spot on!
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 5:38:25 PM EDT
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As a native Texan, I agree with this post.

Nicely stated.

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People ought to be treated with courtesy.  Having been raised in Texas, "sir" and "ma'am" were obligatory when speaking to an elder, a person of legal or religious authority, or  anyone new to you including the black man driving the garbage truck.

I teach.  My students call me Mr. Goldstein or Sir.  I do the same for them unless I call them by name.

Good manners has long-lasting benefits for all parties.

I can't comprehend how some people consider it demeaning to call someone else sir or ma'am.


As a native Texan, I agree with this post.

Nicely stated.



Yup.  When I visited my youngest and favorite uncle who was in the hospital dying from cancer, by the time I arrived he was already in a comatose state.  But the hospital staff were all saying what beautiful manners he had, addressing all the female nurses as ma'am.  I took something from that.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 5:45:29 PM EDT
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As a native Texan, I agree with this post.

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People ought to be treated with courtesy.  Having been raised in Texas, "sir" and "ma'am" were obligatory when speaking to an elder, a person of legal or religious authority, or  anyone new to you including the black man driving the garbage truck.

I teach.  My students call me Mr. Goldstein or Sir.  I do the same for them unless I call them by name.

Good manners has long-lasting benefits for all parties.

I can't comprehend how some people consider it demeaning to call someone else sir or ma'am.


As a native Texan, I agree with this post.

Nicely stated.



This x1000

I can't stand bad manners
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 10:38:55 PM EDT
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And civil. It's amazing what you can say in a business environment if you're civil about it.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 10:42:00 PM EDT
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I don't call other people sir,  and I hate being called sir,  even by subordinates.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 10:48:43 PM EDT
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"Sir" belongs in a military chain of command. When civilians do it, it sounds mocking or condescending.

I don't recall anybody at my work calling anyone "sir." It would have sounded completely out of place, since we all considered ourselves friends there.

On the other hand, in the few dealings I have had with the police, etc., they have invariably called me "sir." I have found this highly insulting, because it's said in such an obviously ironic sense.
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"Sir" belongs in a civilized society. I will even address my subordinates as "Mr...." from time to time, especially when complimenting their work in front of others. Showing respect to others in the work environment really does go a long ways. I will even go so far as ask my subordinates to perform a task instead or telling them to do it. They know darn well they have to do it, but being asked instead of being told really helps morale.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 10:51:02 PM EDT
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The one guy at work who does it is late 20s.and ex-military. He does ma'am with ALL the women. He's a manager,  but not over me.

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Link Posted: 4/1/2015 10:55:32 PM EDT
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People ought to be treated with courtesy.  Having been raised in Texas, "sir" and "ma'am" were obligatory when speaking to an elder, a person of legal or religious authority, or  anyone new to you including the black man driving the garbage truck.

I teach.  My students call me Mr. Goldstein or Sir.  I do the same for them unless I call them by name.

Good manners has long-lasting benefits for all parties.

I can't comprehend how some people consider it demeaning to call someone else sir or ma'am.
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I teach as well (elementary special ed). I am responsible for four paras. I don't expect them to "sir" me, just to be respectful. I generally do not "ma'am" them, though I do show them a bit of courtesy/ respect, and in some instances elevate them, to ensure that students show them adequate respect. I usually sir/ma'am my administration out of respect. I find it difficult to be less formal- though I do it for those who request it. I usually call students by first name, except for certain students who I may be trying to elevate (I work with a couple of kids who really get boosted when I refer them by Mr. ______ or Miss. ______,) When speaking to a large group (i.e. an entire class) I will refer to them as # grade(rs) or friends. I expect students to address me by Mr. ___________. Sir is acceptable. I expect them to address the paras similarly (Miss/Ms/Mrs or Ma'am, as appropriate). My first name is on my ID card. The first time a student calls me by my first name, they get a very gentle reminder. I typically treat subsequent uses as a form of disrespect toward staff. (plays into my classroom level reward/ consequence system)
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:00:04 PM EDT
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I generally call everyone Sir or Ma'am, even enlisted Soldiers.  Once in a while, a senior enlisted will comment on it, but I just tell them, "My momma raised me to respect those older than me."  
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:04:03 PM EDT
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My company has an offsite office in Manilla.  They call EVERYONE "Boss" in emails.  Doesn't matter who they are talking to.  Sure thing Boss.  Ok Boss, Dear Boss, etc.  My manager.....boss flew over there for a few weeks.  He said they do it face to face as well, even to each other.  Very strange.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:05:00 PM EDT
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I get it everyday at work.

It's a good thing.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:06:26 PM EDT
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I call most people sir or ma'am.

It's a holdover for being raised in the South.

I sometimes refer to younger women as "girl" or "young lady" which pisses off the Colorado gender neutral nazis.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:09:35 PM EDT
[#27]
doesnt bother me,at work I will usually tell them just to call me by my first name or nick name
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:13:00 PM EDT
[#28]
Only one person ever had a problem with it in all these years. Guy I used to work with from Toronto had his parents come to visit here in Houston. He introduced his father to me and I said "Pleased to meet you, Sir." His father cracked up and then mocked what I said and my accent.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:18:27 PM EDT
[#29]
I get called sir everyday as part of the job.

What's weird is when I'm working with Navy and USCG Captains that call me sir.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:27:50 PM EDT
[#30]
Usually when someone calls me "sir" it is followed by "you're making a scene."
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:31:09 PM EDT
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It's a holdover for being raised in the South.
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BS. I grew up in Texas (Austin) and only the lower classes (aka rednecks) were so obsequious as to habitually use "sir" or "ma'am." It comes across as oily fawning unless used in a strictly hierarchical setting such as the military.

What I'm trying to say is that in certain social circles, the use of "sir" or "ma'am," instead of being seen as a courtesy, is seen as an insult. So be aware of this and act accordingly.


Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:32:47 PM EDT
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People ought to be treated with courtesy.  Having been raised in Texas, "sir" and "ma'am" were obligatory when speaking to an elder, a person of legal or religious authority, or  anyone new to you including the black man driving the garbage truck.

I teach.  My students call me Mr. Goldstein or Sir.  I do the same for them unless I call them by name.

Good manners has long-lasting benefits for all parties.

I can't comprehend how some people consider it demeaning to call someone else sir or ma'am.
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Same. I spent my younger years in TX. But also came from a military family. So it was normal.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:37:18 PM EDT
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BS. I grew up in Texas (Austin) and only the lower classes (aka rednecks) were so obsequious as to habitually use "sir" or "ma'am." It comes across as oily fawning unless used in a strictly hierarchical setting such as the military.

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BS. I grew up in Texas (Austin) and only the lower classes (aka rednecks) were so obsequious as to habitually use "sir" or "ma'am." It comes across as oily fawning unless used in a strictly hierarchical setting such as the military.


Austin isn't the South. It's some Commie wonderland.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:44:16 PM EDT
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Does whether or not Sir or Ma'am is used and the context (default title for someone whose name you don't know or to signify they are above you like if you're a clerk addressing a customer) depend on the region of the U.S.?
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:49:53 PM EDT
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Austin isn't the South. It's some Commie wonderland.
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Be aware that Ft. Worth had a Socialist mayor in the 1930's. I even met him, as a kid, when we lived there in 1957.

Austin is no more "Commie" than any typical college town.

Southern culture is by no means synonymous with redneck culture. I'm afraid that a lot of people on arfcom see redneck culture as the norm.



Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:55:02 PM EDT
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I don't get my panties in a bunch, regardless.

I Sir and Ma'am folks to death.

I had one guy call me Ma'am on the phone one day.

He must hang around with a bunch of 58 year old 4 pack a day broads........

Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:56:00 PM EDT
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i politely remind them i am to be referred to as "Your Grace" or "Your Majesty". if they do it a second time i have them executed, unless they are a hot chic.




IIRC we have another title we mostly use for you... but I'm not sure I can repeat it in polite company.







i told you last time. the dungeon is for punishment not for fun. No you can't have a key.


If we find the dungeon fun, do we still get sent there?

Link Posted: 4/1/2015 11:59:01 PM EDT
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What I would have given to dug my talons into that staff sergeant.  I'd have him addressing high schooler's by sir/ma'am by the time I was done.
Link Posted: 4/2/2015 12:01:51 AM EDT
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As a native Texan, I agree with this post.

Nicely stated.

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People ought to be treated with courtesy.  Having been raised in Texas, "sir" and "ma'am" were obligatory when speaking to an elder, a person of legal or religious authority, or  anyone new to you including the black man driving the garbage truck.

I teach.  My students call me Mr. Goldstein or Sir.  I do the same for them unless I call them by name.

Good manners has long-lasting benefits for all parties.

I can't comprehend how some people consider it demeaning to call someone else sir or ma'am.


As a native Texan, I agree with this post.

Nicely stated.



Yes sir
Link Posted: 4/2/2015 12:03:06 AM EDT
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My company has an offsite office in Manilla.  They call EVERYONE "Boss" in emails.  Doesn't matter who they are talking to.  Sure thing Boss.  Ok Boss, Dear Boss, etc.  My manager.....boss flew over there for a few weeks.  He said they do it face to face as well, even to each other.  Very strange.
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Big 'Ol Sack of Shit
Link Posted: 4/2/2015 12:17:34 AM EDT
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i do it regularly out of politeness(cuz that's how i was raised). i do remember the first time a youngster called me sir. i was 22or so and in the fishing section at walmart. i saw a 12 or so yr old kid picking up some catfish lure/bait. being there for the same purpose, i asked him if what he was picking up really worked. he replied "yes sir, it does". at first i wanted to slap him because i didn't think i was old enough to be called sir, but quickly realized he was just being respectful to someone older than him and was glad that someone raised him right.
Link Posted: 4/2/2015 12:19:41 AM EDT
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People ought to be treated with courtesy.  Having been raised in Texas, "sir" and "ma'am" were obligatory when speaking to an elder, a person of legal or religious authority, or  anyone new to you including the black man driving the garbage truck.

I teach.  My students call me Mr. Goldstein or Sir.  I do the same for them unless I call them by name.

Good manners has long-lasting benefits for all parties.

I can't comprehend how some people consider it demeaning to call someone else sir or ma'am.
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Someone in GD with Class.
Link Posted: 4/2/2015 12:37:13 AM EDT
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I hate it when somebody obviously older than I calls me sir.

I address older folks who I do not know by sir or mam
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Link Posted: 4/2/2015 3:55:35 AM EDT
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BS. I grew up in Texas (Austin) and only the lower classes (aka rednecks) were so obsequious as to habitually use "sir" or "ma'am." It comes across as oily fawning unless used in a strictly hierarchical setting such as the military.

What I'm trying to say is that in certain social circles, the use of "sir" or "ma'am," instead of being seen as a courtesy, is seen as an insult. So be aware of this and act accordingly.


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It's a holdover for being raised in the South.


BS. I grew up in Texas (Austin) and only the lower classes (aka rednecks) were so obsequious as to habitually use "sir" or "ma'am." It comes across as oily fawning unless used in a strictly hierarchical setting such as the military.

What I'm trying to say is that in certain social circles, the use of "sir" or "ma'am," instead of being seen as a courtesy, is seen as an insult. So be aware of this and act accordingly.



As always, sir, context and inflection can change the "meaning" behind any word.

When I say it in my southern drawl, there's no question to the sincerity of it.
Link Posted: 4/2/2015 5:05:09 AM EDT
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Don't call me Sir; I work for a living?



Sheesh.




Depends on my mood and day.  30 Years in .mil sort of conditions me.






Link Posted: 4/2/2015 5:06:24 AM EDT
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My brother is 43. He honey and sweethearts every woman he sees. drives me crazy
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I get "ma'am", "Deputy", "Officer", or "Ms. Glockgirl" regularly.  The only thing I get a little about is the old men who like to call me "Honey" or "Sweetheart" when they don't know me at all.  I don't shoot their dog or tase them though.



I "sir" and "ma'am" my way through my workday all the time.









My brother is 43. He honey and sweethearts every woman he sees. drives me crazy
You do that shit where I work and you have a harassment case going on.  

 
Link Posted: 4/2/2015 5:17:11 AM EDT
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nvmd
Link Posted: 4/2/2015 5:54:14 AM EDT
[#48]
I call everyone sir or ma'am.
Link Posted: 4/2/2015 6:13:45 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/2/2015 6:26:43 AM EDT
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Doesn't really bother me one way or the other I try to be polite back, doesn't bother me if people don't say sir.
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