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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:21:05 AM EDT
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XXL cammies and ""FTC" tatts.
adjust some of the requirements for certain military jobs, such as those involving cyber or high-tech expertise Rise of the neckbeard army.... 
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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:24:42 AM EDT
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I thought they [Mil] were downsizing or was I mistaken?
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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:30:34 AM EDT
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Sure what could go wrong?
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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:32:06 AM EDT
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This is my chance
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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:32:38 AM EDT
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Does this mean they'll start allowing tattoos again?
Enlisted, gay, fat and with tattoos. GD will explode. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:34:03 AM EDT
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When people are debating getting their GED or going to Nuclear Power Plant school we will be fucked.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:34:51 AM EDT
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Does this mean they'll start allowing tattoos again? Enlisted, gay, fat and with tattoos. GD will explode. GD will be ok until they start issuing more Glocks. Then people will start flipping their shit. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:41:58 AM EDT
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If you're sitting behind a desk doing IT or flying drones, anything other then standing boots on ground - you could be 800lbs for all I care.
Fact is, fat ugly people usually go to school and get smart. Its like the nerds protecting the jocks. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:01:16 AM EDT
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My Uncle was given the choice between jail or joining the Army or Marines. He choose the Marines.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:05:55 AM EDT
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I thought they [Mil] were downsizing or was I mistaken? With Obama calling the shots, there may be a shortage of people who want to serve under such a fucked up CinC. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:08:18 AM EDT
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XXL cammies and ""FTC" tatts. Rise of the neckbeard army.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
XXL cammies and ""FTC" tatts. adjust some of the requirements for certain military jobs, such as those involving cyber or high-tech expertise Rise of the neckbeard army.... The Geeks typically are special snowflakes. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:08:42 AM EDT
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This worked so well last time they did this.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:10:49 AM EDT
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If you're sitting behind a desk doing IT or flying drones, anything other then standing boots on ground - you could be 800lbs for all I care. Fact is, fat ugly people usually go to school and get smart. Its like the nerds protecting the jocks. DoD has 800,000 civilians already. You think we need more? 
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:11:04 AM EDT
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XXL cammies and ""FTC" tatts. Rise of the neckbeard army.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
XXL cammies and ""FTC" tatts. adjust some of the requirements for certain military jobs, such as those involving cyber or high-tech expertise Rise of the neckbeard army.... The biggest improvement the Army can make to that group is bring back the higher Specialist ranks. I've seen a lot of guys that were whiz-bang techs but had no business being an NCO. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:11:52 AM EDT
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Standards doesn't mean what it used to....
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:13:07 AM EDT
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Does this mean thirteeners have a shot?
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:14:16 AM EDT
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My Uncle was given the choice between jail or joining the Army or Marines. He choose the Marines. What crime did he commit? |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:41:31 AM EDT
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Until they start letting asthmatics in, I still stand no chance.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:46:54 AM EDT
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Well, ok. As long as they keep the dirty inkies out! 
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:49:46 AM EDT
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XXL cammies and ""FTC" tatts. Rise of the neckbeard army.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
XXL cammies and ""FTC" tatts. adjust some of the requirements for certain military jobs, such as those involving cyber or high-tech expertise Rise of the neckbeard army.... Transgendered and angry Lesbians. Those are employment opportunities to climb the success ladder. Government jobs in a sense. Armed forces is a large employer and this is the perfect opportunity to make things more fair. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:51:31 AM EDT
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Does this mean they'll start allowing tattoos again? Enlisted, gay, fat and with tattoos. GD will explode. They've been doing that with Lesbians for quite a while now. Not much change. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:21:05 AM EDT
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My Uncle was given the choice between jail or joining the Army or Marines. He choose the Marines. What crime did he commit? I'm not sure, this happened late 1960's. It involved a bar fight. I know he put the guy in the hospital. I'm assuming some sort of assault. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:27:41 AM EDT
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Until they start letting asthmatics in, I still stand no chance. I lied and I was fine. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:33:34 AM EDT
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I'm not sure, this happened late 1960's. It involved a bar fight. I know he put the guy in the hospital. I'm assuming some sort of assault. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My Uncle was given the choice between jail or joining the Army or Marines. He choose the Marines. What crime did he commit? I'm not sure, this happened late 1960's. It involved a bar fight. I know he put the guy in the hospital. I'm assuming some sort of assault. Stories like this, while likely true at the time have fostered myths that the services are places to straighten young people out. It would be interesting for people assigned to recruiting duty over the past 30 or so years to tell us how many kids are ineligible because they are criminally disabled. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:38:19 AM EDT
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Stories like this, while likely true at the time have fostered myths that the services are places to straighten young people out. It would be interesting for people assigned to recruiting duty over the past 30 or so years to tell us how many kids are ineligible because they are criminally disabled. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My Uncle was given the choice between jail or joining the Army or Marines. He choose the Marines. What crime did he commit? I'm not sure, this happened late 1960's. It involved a bar fight. I know he put the guy in the hospital. I'm assuming some sort of assault. Stories like this, while likely true at the time have fostered myths that the services are places to straighten young people out. It would be interesting for people assigned to recruiting duty over the past 30 or so years to tell us how many kids are ineligible because they are criminally disabled. It's all about when the .gov needs bodies. My uncle was given this choice during Vietnam. I know a kid from my high school who has a felony DUI, he was able to join the Army shortly after the US went into Iraq for a second time. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:41:51 AM EDT
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If you're sitting behind a desk doing IT or flying drones, anything other then standing boots on ground - you could be 800lbs for all I care. Fact is, fat ugly people usually go to school and get smart. Its like the nerds protecting the jocks. You just pull that out of your ass? Cite your source of info correlating MOS to body weight. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:44:16 AM EDT
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You just pull that out of your ass? Cite your source of info correlating MOS to body weight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you're sitting behind a desk doing IT or flying drones, anything other then standing boots on ground - you could be 800lbs for all I care. Fact is, fat ugly people usually go to school and get smart. Its like the nerds protecting the jocks. You just pull that out of your ass? Cite your source of info correlating MOS to body weight. Lighten up, Francis. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:46:40 AM EDT
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Standards doesn't mean what it used to.... Standards are for you and I, but for other people they are things to be scoffed at, debated and get waivers for. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:46:59 AM EDT
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Stories like this, while likely true at the time have fostered myths that the services are places to straighten young people out. It would be interesting for people assigned to recruiting duty over the past 30 or so years to tell us how many kids are ineligible because they are criminally disabled. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My Uncle was given the choice between jail or joining the Army or Marines. He choose the Marines. What crime did he commit? I'm not sure, this happened late 1960's. It involved a bar fight. I know he put the guy in the hospital. I'm assuming some sort of assault. Stories like this, while likely true at the time have fostered myths that the services are places to straighten young people out. It would be interesting for people assigned to recruiting duty over the past 30 or so years to tell us how many kids are ineligible because they are criminally disabled. One of my basic training buddies was in the marine corps DEP program, got arrested for some vandalism/property destruction and got kicked out of the DEP, judge told him he had to enlist in another branch or face some other penalty, he ended up in 3/75. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:47:01 AM EDT
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DoD has 800,000 civilians already. You think we need more? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you're sitting behind a desk doing IT or flying drones, anything other then standing boots on ground - you could be 800lbs for all I care. Fact is, fat ugly people usually go to school and get smart. Its like the nerds protecting the jocks. DoD has 800,000 civilians already. You think we need more? Because hiring more contractors to do the jobs that the 800k civilians aren't works well, too, amirite? |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:55:20 AM EDT
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Maybe I can finally get in! I'll form the 'Beetus Brigade.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:09:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:10:46 AM EDT
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CARTER_MILITARY_ENLISTMENT_STANDARDS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-03-30-06-10-11 Carter is expected to begin discussing his plans to build a better 21st century force during several stops Monday and Tuesday in Pennsylvania and New York. If they start allowing forty-something basement dwellers with bad backs, hips, knees, and vision in, I'm signing up. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:16:14 AM EDT
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typical, cut experienced servicemen, fire them in the field, fire the noncoms, the command officers, the field officers, lower the standards so you can bring in those that you will be able to indoctrinate in the way you want to indoctrinate them.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:17:32 AM EDT
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DoD has 800,000 civilians already. You think we need more? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you're sitting behind a desk doing IT or flying drones, anything other then standing boots on ground - you could be 800lbs for all I care. Fact is, fat ugly people usually go to school and get smart. Its like the nerds protecting the jocks. DoD has 800,000 civilians already. You think we need more? Want to replace them with 800,000 NCOs, officers and contractors? Oh yeah...most of those DACs are retired NCOs and officers from when we downsized the military and replaced servicemembers with DACs. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:18:43 AM EDT
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Wait, does this mean that I can re-join?
I'm down. I'm 87% sure I can out perform any of the landwhale felons that they're going to be attracting. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:34:10 AM EDT
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I don't have a huge problem with what the article addresses. We need the best in the army - there are situations where the best for a particular job, might not be suited for all positions - such as a 45 year old fat computer specialist might be the best to counter cyber terrorism (and would never be stationed outside the US), but be entirely unqualified for combat.
To some degree I thought we handled this with civilian contractors already. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:51:59 AM EDT
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Want to replace them with 800,000 NCOs, officers and contractors? Oh yeah...most of those DACs are retired NCOs and officers from when we downsized the military and replaced servicemembers with DACs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you're sitting behind a desk doing IT or flying drones, anything other then standing boots on ground - you could be 800lbs for all I care. Fact is, fat ugly people usually go to school and get smart. Its like the nerds protecting the jocks. DoD has 800,000 civilians already. You think we need more? Want to replace them with 800,000 NCOs, officers and contractors? Oh yeah...most of those DACs are retired NCOs and officers from when we downsized the military and replaced servicemembers with DACs. I'd like to think that 1.2M active servicemembers and 800K civvies is far from the correct ratio. We need to fire about 70% of the civilians, starting with the depots.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 11:38:20 AM EDT
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I don't have a huge problem with what the article addresses. We need the best in the army - there are situations where the best for a particular job, might not be suited for all positions - such as a 45 year old fat computer specialist might be the best to counter cyber terrorism (and would never be stationed outside the US), but be entirely unqualified for combat. To some degree I thought we handled this with civilian contractors already. Yeah, but it is cheaper to pay an E2 $20808 a year base pay than it is to give the near six figure contracts. Hell, I would've been happy to see several support positions I relied on both overseas and in garrison farmed out to contractors. Might have actually gotten things done, then. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 11:45:37 AM EDT
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Yeah, but it is cheaper to pay an E2 $20808 a year base pay than it is to give the near six figure contracts. Hell, I would've been happy to see several support positions I relied on both overseas and in garrison farmed out to contractors. Might have actually gotten things done, then. I usually got along better with the contractors than the DA .civs. If a contractor sucks at his job its not too hard to fire him, his job is all about customer satisfaction. If a DA .civ sucks at his job you really can't do much about it; in fact I usually didn't say anything to avoid them intentionally trying to screw with my stuff. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 11:54:14 AM EDT
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If they start allowing forty-something basement dwellers with bad backs, hips, knees, and vision in, I'm signing up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CARTER_MILITARY_ENLISTMENT_STANDARDS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-03-30-06-10-11 Carter is expected to begin discussing his plans to build a better 21st century force during several stops Monday and Tuesday in Pennsylvania and New York. If they start allowing forty-something basement dwellers with bad backs, hips, knees, and vision in, I'm signing up. wouldn't mind going back in as a 45N/E or hell a computer Tech even.. but at 46, and broken down. No such luck, I would need a stack of Waivers at least 2 inches high.. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 12:49:42 PM EDT
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And to think I got kicked out for acne...............
DoD felt I could be a non-combat casuality if a ruck was rubbing on a zit.... I was AF fire-rescue for Gods sake...... Only thing we had to worry about was boredom and polish poisoning.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 12:59:18 PM EDT
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Maybe I can finally get in! I'll form the 'Beetus Brigade. Iron Courage! Disposable Needles! |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 11:28:53 PM EDT
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Stories like this, while likely true at the time have fostered myths that the services are places to straighten young people out. It would be interesting for people assigned to recruiting duty over the past 30 or so years to tell us how many kids are ineligible because they are criminally disabled. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My Uncle was given the choice between jail or joining the Army or Marines. He choose the Marines. What crime did he commit? I'm not sure, this happened late 1960's. It involved a bar fight. I know he put the guy in the hospital. I'm assuming some sort of assault. Stories like this, while likely true at the time have fostered myths that the services are places to straighten young people out. It would be interesting for people assigned to recruiting duty over the past 30 or so years to tell us how many kids are ineligible because they are criminally disabled. A good number with charges ranging from possession w/ intent to distribute, a number of weapons charges, exploitation of minors, numerous DUI/DWI w/ no DL and any number of assault charges. These aren't the norm but they certainly happen quite frequently. |
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