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Posted: 3/29/2015 5:29:30 PM EDT
Black People Don’t Drink Coffee
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by Jim Goad

March 23, 2015
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Black people don’t drink coffee. There—I’ve said it.

I’m generalizing, of course. Yes, I realize you have a black friend who drinks a lot of coffee. You’ve even seen him drink coffee with your own eyes—many times. But I’m talking about trends here. And the trend is that relative to their Caucasian oppressors, black people don’t drink as much coffee as white people do. According to this super-special government document, white American adults drink about three times as much coffee as blacks.

That seems unfair.

Why the disparity? Why the persistent and seemingly ineradicable coffee inequality? If one were so inclined, one could fairly describe American blacks as “coffee-deprived.” They’re a “coffee-underserved population.” You might even allege that urban blacks live in “coffee deserts.”

Since this article is about the intersection of race and coffee, is there truly a whiter brand of coffee than Starbucks? I mean “white” not in the Viking-warrior sense but in the Stuff White People Like sense. Starbucks, that Seattle-born corporate caffeine giant that makes the shittiest coffee in world history and charges credulous customers ten times its value, may employ the occasional dark-skinned so-called “barista”—I hate that term—but finding a black customer in a Starbucks is like finding a unicorn at a 7-Eleven.

This is why it’s a sharp pointy pinnacle of irony that Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz—yes, he’s Jewish, because a dozen of you would have mentioned it in the comments anyway—recently launched a publicity blitz encouraging his baristas to engage their customers in an ongoing dialogue about race relations in America.

Right. OK, then, I’ll take a Venti Americano. While you’re preparing my hot beverage, let’s chat about The Bell Curve.

“We’re not in the business of filling bellies,” Schultz told 60 Minutes in 2006. “We’re in the business of filling souls.” Yeah, well, you’re filling my soul with bullshit right now and I’m politely asking for you to stop.

The billionaire Schultz licks his lips a lot while talking, which I’ve always taken to be a sign of severe dishonesty and perhaps even demonic possession. He speaks of how he grew up poor in “federally subsidized” Brooklyn housing and how the people there came in different colors and spoke different languages and worshiped different gods and how that left an impression on him. Now he’s seen the riots in Ferguson and that nice fat black man who couldn’t breathe in New York and is concerned about inequality in America, both the racial kind and the economic kind, and it bothers him, and even after all that Martin Luther King has done, it troubles him to see black people marching at night holding candles and picket signs and shaking their damn heads—again! After all these years, they’re still shaking their damn heads.

His solution? Have his baristas write the term “RaceTogether” on customers’ cups in order to initiate what will likely be a deep, meaningful, and bridge-mending conversation rather than a painfully stilted exchange that leads to almost immediate grumbling from the people standing in line behind you.

Even Kareem Abdul-Jabbar thinks Starbucks’ race initiative is a supremely stupid idea: “I worry that such forced and awkward conversations could quickly escalate to violence.”

I’ll take a pumpkin spice latte with two extra sugars, please.

Since you’re an unconscious beneficiary of white privilege and invisible institutional racism, that’s easy for you to say.

OK, how about I beat the fuck out of you right now?




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http://takimag.com/article/black_people_dont_drink_coffeeJim_goad#axzz3VoD9QAkL
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Am I the only person in America who doesn't give a shit about Starbucks and their little initiative? Because I feel like I am.
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My best friend drinks coffee alll the time, and Starbucks at that. Fuck the author of that article.
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I've got too much don't give a fuck creamer to care.
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No, doesn't even register on my give a shit meter.

 
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I don't drink coffee
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Nope.  I dislike Starbucks coffee and think that Celtic Restaurant, McDonalds, serves better coffee.  Besides, like the article says (indirectly), Starbucks is waycist.
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 5:39:48 PM EDT
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Next you are going to tell me that white people don't like whistle tips.
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Well, it was a humorous insight into their extraordinarily myopic worldview.  Only the most smug and naive douchebags could have been so oblivious.
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Just as I suspected, Coffee is Racists!

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If you're in the military, ANY branch of the military, sooner or later You Will be drinking coffee by the cup if not the quart.

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Am I the only person in America who doesn't give a shit about Starbucks and their little initiative? Because I feel like I am.
I had my first cup today in months, and the lovely lady behind the counter didn't write shit on it, and it was perfect.



Pretty sure the #race or whatever the fuck it was campaign was never launched here, because there'd be a shit fit. Pretty much no starbucks campaign in the media was ever done here. They just serve coffee. I just don't buy it regularly because I'm a utilitarian drinker and therefore usually go for energy drinks. Today was just a lazy sunday and I'm soft on the girl at my local Starbucks.
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If you're in the military, ANY branch of the military, sooner or later You Will be drinking coffee by the cup if not the quart.





My neighbor just became addicted to monsters and newports during his service. Not sure what you mean.
 
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If somebody told me that the Coast Guard consumed more coffee and cigarettes per capita than any other branch, I wouldn't ask them to prove it.
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Starbucks is shit coffee.  Not that any of the customers notice because they order that milk/sugar/candy latte swill.
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I have a lot of black coworkers of various national extraction at my office.

Our cafeteria/beverage center is damn popular with almost every one of us in the morning. Likewise for the customer support crowd that pulls second and third shift duties...someone is always filling their cup.

Of course, there's not a drop of Starbucks to be found in the house.

Draw your own conclusions.
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I like coffee desserts. Especially donuts
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don't forget "massively overpriced" swill.



 
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I'm just glad that we have the opportunity to discuss race here on Arfcom.

Because, we never, ever do that here.

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Tea is better
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I like them both, but I'm less prone to ruining tea by adding stuff to it.

 
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When I make the coffee at work in the morning half of the people standing around waiting for the pot to fill are black.

Black people are pretty consistent on their enjoyment of coffee. That author is full of shit and has likely never left the sheltered confines of their house.
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Racist article.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
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Other than sweet tea, no one in America drinks tea.
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Jim Goad is both funny and insightful—and he loves to stir up controversy.



His book Redneck Manifesto is an interesting read. I learned a great deal from it.
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I haven't seen any black customers in Starbucks the few times I went. When I went to the corner deli, convenience store, or gas station in the morning, there were plenty of black people buying coffee. Maybe they just didn't want to pay four bucks for an overhyped cup of coffee that has more snob appeal than taste.
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Do you want all your shit thrown in a harbor
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Why are y'all posting that you know black people who drink coffee? Seriously, who cares
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Other than sweet tea, no one in America drinks tea.
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Other than sweet tea, no one in America drinks tea.

dude you dont even live in america. we drink tea in america.
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you know why you don't have an empire anymore?

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Is it racist now to drink your coffee "black"? Is there a better term that won't offend anyone?
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I'm right there with you. For medical reasons I can't have caffine. I miss Coca Cola but never drank coffee so I DGAF about it or Starbucks.
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Earl Grey.
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Americans in general don't drink coffee, they drink hot water with a hint of coffee.
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I was just wondering if I was the only person in America that didn't give a shit about black people, and is frankly fucking tired of hearing about them, and what they want, and what they like, or don't like, or what makes them happy, sad, angry, or anything else.

Don't. Give. A. Fuck.
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Huh?
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no
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Americans in general don't drink coffee, they drink hot water milk with a hint of coffee.
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FIFY
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Article really doesn't have anything to do with coffee. I think he is drawing parallels here.  But then, i just read half the article.
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But our coffee cups are much larger than the shot glasses that pass as "coffee cups" in Europe.
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I was just wondering if I was the only person in America that didn't give a shit about black people, and is frankly fucking tired of hearing about them, and what they want, and what they like, or don't like, or what makes them happy, sad, angry, or anything else.

Don't. Give. A. Fuck.
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Am I the only person in America who doesn't give a shit about Starbucks and their little initiative? Because I feel like I am.

I was just wondering if I was the only person in America that didn't give a shit about black people, and is frankly fucking tired of hearing about them, and what they want, and what they like, or don't like, or what makes them happy, sad, angry, or anything else.

Don't. Give. A. Fuck.


Ditto. Though, I don't really limit it to black people.
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Oh sure, this conversation is fine, but is Dasani started a campaign because black people don't like water there would be riots.  
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Starbucks is shit, but if the cup at my favorite place had "race together" written on it would not A) piss me off, nor B) cause me to reflect on race relations.  What Starbucks is doing is about as meaningless and inconsequential as it gets.
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But our coffee cups are much larger than the shot glasses that pass as "coffee cups" in Europe.
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But our coffee cups are much larger than the shot glasses that pass as "coffee cups" in Europe.

Never been to Europe huh?
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Never been to Europe huh?
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But our coffee cups are much larger than the shot glasses that pass as "coffee cups" in Europe.

Never been to Europe huh?

Coffee is a religion in Scandinavia.
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But our coffee cups are much larger than the shot glasses that pass as "coffee cups" in Europe.

Never been to Europe huh?


Are the UK, Belgium, Germany, Czech Republic, Italy, and Albania in Europe? That's what's on my current Passport, I may be forgetting a few from years ago. They have cute "coffee" cups in those places. Then again, if you're drinking coffee in most of those places, you're doing it wrong.

ETA: Forgot Austria. Was there for a week in 2010. I did find a cafe there with something resembling a normal-sized coffee mug. And The Netherlands in 2010 as well - where "coffee shop" has a slightly different meaning.
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Are the UK, Belgium, Germany, Czech Republic, Italy, and Albania in Europe? That's what's on my current Passport, I may be forgetting a few from years ago. They have cute "coffee" cups in those places. Then again, if you're drinking coffee in most of those places, you're doing it wrong.
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But our coffee cups are much larger than the shot glasses that pass as "coffee cups" in Europe.

Never been to Europe huh?


Are the UK, Belgium, Germany, Czech Republic, Italy, and Albania in Europe? That's what's on my current Passport, I may be forgetting a few from years ago. They have cute "coffee" cups in those places. Then again, if you're drinking coffee in most of those places, you're doing it wrong.

Ah, you've visited the Continent.

Come to the civilized parts of Europe, and you'll get to drink proper coffee from adult-sized cups.
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Austria was the only thing close to "civilized" I found in the coffee realm. Germany, Belgium and Czech Republic made up for it with beer.
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