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Posted: 3/28/2015 9:54:20 PM EDT
http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2015/03/27/new-york-passes-bill-authorize-elk-season-elk-present-state/
If there are no elk in the forest, can you have an elk season? Apparently New York lawmakers are entertaining the idea, as a bill that recently passed the state’s Senate Environmental Conservation Committee will authorize moose and elk hunts in the state. This is despite that fact that elk have been expatriated from New York since the late 1800s. View Quote |
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Elk is tasty and HUGE.
I would love to have an entire elk, ground up in the freezer. |
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Fucked up part is that people would probably buy the licenses.
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There is moose, well at least in my area there is just a very small number. Hell had one a few years ago that walked right through the town early one morning. And a few have been spotted else wear around my area as well. I'll see if I can find pics. |
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There are definitely moose in NY. I have seen them. Unlike cats, there is no mistaking a moose for anything else.
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Elk are yummy. Moose are yummier. ETA elk...and moose... http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag225/karst_man/20141106_171253_zpsaexwephb.jpg http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag225/karst_man/IMGP3210_zps5d03f579.jpg View Quote Never had Moose. Is it really tastier than Elk?. |
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There are definitely moose in NY. I have seen them. Unlike cats, there is no mistaking a moose for anything else. View Quote Upstate is being repopulated with many long gone animals. Farmers I know way up In north country continuously report mountain lions as well moose. Elk have been reported as escaping from PA farms and wondering up here. There is even a movement in the ADK to have wolves repopulated. |
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Nobody needs more than ten bullets to kill a non existing elk!!!!!!!!!!
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http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2015/03/27/new-york-passes-bill-authorize-elk-season-elk-present-state/ If there are no elk in the forest, can you have an elk season? Apparently New York lawmakers are entertaining the idea, as a bill that recently passed the state’s Senate Environmental Conservation Committee will authorize moose and elk hunts in the state. This is despite that fact that elk have been expatriated from New York since the late 1800s. View Quote View Quote "expatriated" or "extirpated"? |
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There ARE moose in NY state. It is not some government secret. Also, There was a fenced in Elk farm near my house a few years ago. What a thrill to wake up on an early august moring to hear a bull elk bugling down the road.
The elk farm is gone, and some of them had escaped. I've seen tracks in the snow when I was hunting that were way to big to be a whitetail deer..... |
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Upstate is being repopulated with many long gone animals. Farmers I know way up In north country continuously report mountain lions as well moose. Elk have been reported as escaping from PA farms and wondering up here. There is even a movement in the ADK to have wolves repopulated. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There are definitely moose in NY. I have seen them. Unlike cats, there is no mistaking a moose for anything else. Upstate is being repopulated with many long gone animals. Farmers I know way up In north country continuously report mountain lions as well moose. Elk have been reported as escaping from PA farms and wondering up here. There is even a movement in the ADK to have wolves repopulated. They're not escaping farms, we have a wild elk population with a season every year in several counties, all of which are near the NY border. There was almost an agreement to give a few to NY to stock in the Catskills, but worry over CWD shut it down. |
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There are still Moose in NY, not very many but they are there. As for elk, KY has been successful in reestablishing an elk herd, no reason why NY can't do the same.
NY has some pretty big unpopulated tracts of forest. |
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Quoted: Upstate is being repopulated with many long gone animals. Farmers I know way up In north country continuously report mountain lions as well moose. Elk have been reported as escaping from PA farms and wondering up here. There is even a movement in the ADK to have wolves repopulated. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: There are definitely moose in NY. I have seen them. Unlike cats, there is no mistaking a moose for anything else. Upstate is being repopulated with many long gone animals. Farmers I know way up In north country continuously report mountain lions as well moose. Elk have been reported as escaping from PA farms and wondering up here. There is even a movement in the ADK to have wolves repopulated. |
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Quoted: There are still Moose in NY, not very many but they are there. As for elk, KY has been successful in reestablishing an elk herd, no reason why NY can't do the same. NY has some pretty big unpopulated tracts of forest. View Quote |
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There are still Moose in NY, not very many but they are there. As for elk, KY has been successful in reestablishing an elk herd, no reason why NY can't do the same. NY has some pretty big unpopulated tracts of forest. View Quote The state is run by city slickers who are engaged in an ethnic cleansing campaign against Upstate. That's why. Edited to add: There are quite a few moose in New York. Over 300 was the count I heard several years ago. Every once in a while Bubba shoots one and then gets arrested after word spreads. |
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I wouldn't say "still" rather that some are wandering back. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There are still Moose in NY, not very many but they are there. As for elk, KY has been successful in reestablishing an elk herd, no reason why NY can't do the same. NY has some pretty big unpopulated tracts of forest. I think "viable herd" would be better used here. You guys have had isolated pockets of animals and they were never really gone. From the perspective of a viable herd...yeah they are gone. Probably gone forever due to ticks. Elk on the other hand stand a real chance of being reintroduced. |
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Quoted: The state is run by city slickers who are engaged in an ethnic cleansing campaign against Upstate. That's why. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: There are still Moose in NY, not very many but they are there. As for elk, KY has been successful in reestablishing an elk herd, no reason why NY can't do the same. NY has some pretty big unpopulated tracts of forest. The state is run by city slickers who are engaged in an ethnic cleansing campaign against Upstate. That's why. |
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Quoted: Now you see how they can have a season for a non-existant animal with non-existant implements. genius. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Are they even allowed to own a hunting rifle anymore? Now you see how they can have a season for a non-existant animal with non-existant implements. genius. Hunting groups and animal rights groups make campaign contributions too! To those in NY that will listen. DO NOT let your DNR reintroduce wolves. It will only take a very few years for wolves to multiply exponentially. Once that occurs your Whitetail herd will be decimated within 5 years. |
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The political benefit... Hunting groups and animal rights groups make campaign contributions too! To those in NY that will listen. DO NOT let your DNR reintroduce wolves. It will only take a very few years for wolves to multiply exponentially. Once that occurs your Whitetail herd will be decimated within 5 years. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are they even allowed to own a hunting rifle anymore? Now you see how they can have a season for a non-existant animal with non-existant implements. genius. Hunting groups and animal rights groups make campaign contributions too! To those in NY that will listen. DO NOT let your DNR reintroduce wolves. It will only take a very few years for wolves to multiply exponentially. Once that occurs your Whitetail herd will be decimated within 5 years. I have a camp in the Catskills near margaretteville........what are these whitetail herds that you speak of? |
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Quoted: I have a camp in the Catskills near margaretteville........what are these whitetail herds that you speak of? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are they even allowed to own a hunting rifle anymore? Now you see how they can have a season for a non-existant animal with non-existant implements. genius. Hunting groups and animal rights groups make campaign contributions too! To those in NY that will listen. DO NOT let your DNR reintroduce wolves. It will only take a very few years for wolves to multiply exponentially. Once that occurs your Whitetail herd will be decimated within 5 years. I have a camp in the Catskills near margaretteville........what are these whitetail herds that you speak of? |
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The political benefit... Hunting groups and animal rights groups make campaign contributions too! To those in NY that will listen. DO NOT let your DNR reintroduce wolves. It will only take a very few years for wolves to multiply exponentially. Once that occurs your Whitetail herd will be decimated within 5 years. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are they even allowed to own a hunting rifle anymore? Now you see how they can have a season for a non-existant animal with non-existant implements. genius. Hunting groups and animal rights groups make campaign contributions too! To those in NY that will listen. DO NOT let your DNR reintroduce wolves. It will only take a very few years for wolves to multiply exponentially. Once that occurs your Whitetail herd will be decimated within 5 years. If wolves overrun NYC than the cops could just shoot them. Wolves are dogs right? |
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There a million of them infesting places like syracuae and ithaca. Google Cornell's hilarious attempts to control them View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are they even allowed to own a hunting rifle anymore? Now you see how they can have a season for a non-existant animal with non-existant implements. genius. Hunting groups and animal rights groups make campaign contributions too! To those in NY that will listen. DO NOT let your DNR reintroduce wolves. It will only take a very few years for wolves to multiply exponentially. Once that occurs your Whitetail herd will be decimated within 5 years. I have a camp in the Catskills near margaretteville........what are these whitetail herds that you speak of? Can't be worse then the fucking Long Island approach: We have too many deer, we need to get rid of them. Maybe we should open hunting season? Fuck that, we'll hire private hunters to cull 6000 deer. *later that year* Phew! Culls done, how many did we bag? 169 What?! 169 for a all-summer cull?! Maybe we should open hunting season. But lets keep permit number at the original number and prevent the hunters from going into the park lands where the deer live. |
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If wolves overrun NYC than the cops could just shoot them. Wolves are dogs right? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are they even allowed to own a hunting rifle anymore? Now you see how they can have a season for a non-existant animal with non-existant implements. genius. Hunting groups and animal rights groups make campaign contributions too! To those in NY that will listen. DO NOT let your DNR reintroduce wolves. It will only take a very few years for wolves to multiply exponentially. Once that occurs your Whitetail herd will be decimated within 5 years. If wolves overrun NYC than the cops could just shoot them. Wolves are dogs right? Sounds like fun, let's do it! |
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I don't think that article knows what expatriated means.
Probably meant extirpated |
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They're not escaping farms, we have a wild elk population with a season every year in several counties, all of which are near the NY border. There was almost an agreement to give a few to NY to stock in the Catskills, but worry over CWD shut it down. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There are definitely moose in NY. I have seen them. Unlike cats, there is no mistaking a moose for anything else. Upstate is being repopulated with many long gone animals. Farmers I know way up In north country continuously report mountain lions as well moose. Elk have been reported as escaping from PA farms and wondering up here. There is even a movement in the ADK to have wolves repopulated. They're not escaping farms, we have a wild elk population with a season every year in several counties, all of which are near the NY border. There was almost an agreement to give a few to NY to stock in the Catskills, but worry over CWD shut it down. This NY elk season is because people in southern NY want to shoot those big ass PA elk that wander across the border. I don't blame them! |
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If an elk is killed in New York, will anyone care? View Quote Only if a butterfly simultaneously flaps its wings in China. |
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Quoted: Farmers I know way up In north country continuously report mountain lions as well moose. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: There are definitely moose in NY. I have seen them. Unlike cats, there is no mistaking a moose for anything else. Farmers I know way up In north country continuously report mountain lions as well moose. I saw a black panther/mountain lion/cougar in western New York; Livingston County, Groveland area. |
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Upstate is being repopulated with many long gone animals. Farmers I know way up In north country continuously report mountain lions as well moose. Elk have been reported as escaping from PA farms and wondering up here. There is even a movement in the ADK to have wolves repopulated. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There are definitely moose in NY. I have seen them. Unlike cats, there is no mistaking a moose for anything else. Upstate is being repopulated with many long gone animals. Farmers I know way up In north country continuously report mountain lions as well moose. Elk have been reported as escaping from PA farms and wondering up here. There is even a movement in the ADK to have wolves repopulated. I have absolutely no doubt that over by Salamanca there are elk that have migrated out of PA into NY. I've seen too many elk on the PA side of the line in and near the PA Wilds for that not to be happening. And I've seen moose wandering around the Binghamton and Broome County area, as well as having worked with the moron who shot one of them back in the 1980s (he worked at the company I was a regular visitor to while in the AF). And I can attest to having seen four or five dead mountain lions along various highways in the area. There have got to be a larger number of elk running around if the state is even mentioning the idea of hunting them. When they wouldn't admit to the existence of moose and mountain lions in NY they would tell hunters: "They don't exist around here. But if you kill one it's going to be a $10,000 fine." To even say that a hunting season for elk could ever happen is to admit that there are elk in NY in numbers that are growing too big to ignore or keep covered up. I just wish I could get in on the PA elk season at some point in the future. As it is, they're talking about taking excess elk from the herds in western PA and relocating them into eastern PA. That would put an elk population into the 7000 acre state game lands about a half mile from our house. And when they open eastern PA up for elk season, I'm gonna be so there. |
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The political benefit... Hunting groups and animal rights groups make campaign contributions too! To those in NY that will listen. DO NOT let your DNR reintroduce wolves. It will only take a very few years for wolves to multiply exponentially. Once that occurs your Whitetail herd will be decimated within 5 years. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are they even allowed to own a hunting rifle anymore? Now you see how they can have a season for a non-existant animal with non-existant implements. genius. Hunting groups and animal rights groups make campaign contributions too! To those in NY that will listen. DO NOT let your DNR reintroduce wolves. It will only take a very few years for wolves to multiply exponentially. Once that occurs your Whitetail herd will be decimated within 5 years. Our coyotes have a good bit of wolf DNA mixed in. http://www.esf.edu/pubprog/brochure/coyote/coyote.htm |
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I saw a black panther/mountain lion/cougar in western New York; Livingston County, Groveland area. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There are definitely moose in NY. I have seen them. Unlike cats, there is no mistaking a moose for anything else. Farmers I know way up In north country continuously report mountain lions as well moose. I saw a black panther/mountain lion/cougar in western New York; Livingston County, Groveland area. I know more then one person from that area that has seen them as well.. |
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Funny because, I just had an Elk Burger last night.
Aloha, Mark |
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There are definitely moose in NY. I have seen them. Unlike cats, there is no mistaking a moose for anything else. Ever see a moose strolling through a NY ghetto? I have... http://www.quickmeme.com/img/17/17994148d5ab3027e4d9737ee7e8c5b186ab99ac07dd0071f2581fb70d8f2a58.jpg Arbor Hill, was walking right down Henry Johnson Boulvard. Fucking hysterical! |
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IBM site Somers, NY. I have a camp in the Catskills near margaretteville........what are these whitetail herds that you speak of? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are they even allowed to own a hunting rifle anymore? Now you see how they can have a season for a non-existant animal with non-existant implements. genius. Hunting groups and animal rights groups make campaign contributions too! To those in NY that will listen. DO NOT let your DNR reintroduce wolves. It will only take a very few years for wolves to multiply exponentially. Once that occurs your Whitetail herd will be decimated within 5 years. IBM site Somers, NY. I have a camp in the Catskills near margaretteville........what are these whitetail herds that you speak of? |
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