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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:24:39 PM EDT
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Fucking neckbeards....
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:27:29 PM EDT
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Here's your problem:
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When it comes back I'm buying it all and stacking it deep |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:28:44 PM EDT
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There's the vast majority of two years production in closets and on shelves. Most of it will never be shot.
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:29:58 PM EDT
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When it comes back I'm buying it all and stacking it deep But it doesn't exist. You can't buy the shit out of something that you can't find. The prices should have killed the neck beard pricing structure by now. Is the profit margin too low on 22 long rifle to bother producing more? |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:30:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's the vast majority of two years production in closets and on shelves. Most of it will never be shot. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:31:39 PM EDT
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I miss the Walmart Federal 550 round bulk packs for $8.87. Believe it or not that was actually in this century
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:32:34 PM EDT
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I don't see any to ever neckbeard. period.
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:35:22 PM EDT
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Is the profit margin too low on 22 long rifle to bother producing more? They're already running 24/7 on the machinery they have. The problem is, increasing production requires a significant capital investment. There's no assurance that the increased level of demand will continue, so the manufacturers have little incentive to invest. They just milk the cash cow they have. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:37:59 PM EDT
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Edited...VA-gunnut
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:38:19 PM EDT
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I have over 10k rds, just 'cause. I never use .22 any more though. It's not exciting and keeping up with the AR and CCW keeps me busy and poor.
FBHO. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:39:54 PM EDT
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I have a pile. PM me for prices 20bucks a BRICK... i'll call if its more no need to make the pm (call) |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:44:20 PM EDT
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Go look on Gunbroker, there's 38 pages of ads for .22LR. That tells you something. Huge amounts of .22LR are being bought up for sale on the secondary market.
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:45:21 PM EDT
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They're already running 24/7 on the machinery they have. The problem is, increasing production requires a significant capital investment. There's no assurance that the increased level of demand will continue, so the manufacturers have little incentive to invest. They just milk the cash cow they have. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is the profit margin too low on 22 long rifle to bother producing more? They're already running 24/7 on the machinery they have. The problem is, increasing production requires a significant capital investment. There's no assurance that the increased level of demand will continue, so the manufacturers have little incentive to invest. They just milk the cash cow they have. I don't buy it. Nothing runs at full capacity 24/7 and not saturate the market, no matter who's buying it. Look at fuel recently, everyone was buying and they still out produced demand and the price dropped. I'm saying production hasn't out paced demand........somebody is buying it and I'm not so sure it is actually average citizens, or they are not running production 24/7 |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:46:49 PM EDT
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They're already running 24/7 on the machinery they have. The problem is, increasing production requires a significant capital investment. There's no assurance that the increased level of demand will continue, so the manufacturers have little incentive to invest. They just milk the cash cow they have. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is the profit margin too low on 22 long rifle to bother producing more? They're already running 24/7 on the machinery they have. The problem is, increasing production requires a significant capital investment. There's no assurance that the increased level of demand will continue, so the manufacturers have little incentive to invest. They just milk the cash cow they have. In the last two years the demand would have paid off new equipment, new buildings, new Beemers for each worker, and daily knob polishing for the executives. WTF are they waiting for? This correction will take years. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:47:22 PM EDT
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From what I have been told, the profit margin does not make it worth enlarging the production facilities. So we just have to suck it up. I can buy it for 10cpr all day long. If they up their production capacity, we would see a jump in the base price I am sure. I keep my eyes open at WM and such and keep enough to replace what I shoot. I have enough stocked up to last for a while.
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:47:46 PM EDT
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I still can't figure out way different manufacturers and different brands seem to hit the shelves in a surge, then they are gone for months.
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:48:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:49:17 PM EDT
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Go look on Gunbroker, there's 38 pages of ads for .22LR. That tells you something. Huge amounts of .22LR are being bought up for sale on the secondary market. It's barely selling anymore though. Two years ago every listing would have bids, now most expire without a bid. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:52:05 PM EDT
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Go to a gun show and you'll see thousands of boxes for $90-$100. Everyone still lines up at 6am at walmart and buys everything that comes in.
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:54:17 PM EDT
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Go to a gun show and you'll see thousands of boxes for $90-$100. Everyone still lines up at 6am at walmart and buys everything that comes in. Our walmarts get nothing at all. I would be there at 5 am if it helped. Walmart needs to start putting out ammo at random times. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:55:05 PM EDT
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The Dicks Sporting Goods store has a full 2 foot wide shelf jammed packed with Rem Subsonics in those square clear plastic 100ct boxes.
Been sitting there for almost 2 weeks. Cabelas has it on the shelf in the afternoon still most days. It's coming back. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:56:37 PM EDT
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They're already running 24/7 on the machinery they have. The problem is, increasing production requires a significant capital investment. There's no assurance that the increased level of demand will continue, so the manufacturers have little incentive to invest. They just milk the cash cow they have. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is the profit margin too low on 22 long rifle to bother producing more? They're already running 24/7 on the machinery they have. The problem is, increasing production requires a significant capital investment. There's no assurance that the increased level of demand will continue, so the manufacturers have little incentive to invest. They just milk the cash cow they have. I. Do. Not. Believe. it. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:56:37 PM EDT
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I miss the Walmart Federal 550 round bulk packs for $8.87. Believe it or not that was actually in this century I bought a bunch at $7.97 and $9.97. Stopped after it went above $12.97 per bulk pack. Hard to believe now it was at those prices less than 5 years ago (but more than two years ago!!) |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:57:57 PM EDT
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Look at fuel recently, everyone was buying and they still out produced demand and the price dropped. Fuel was selling at a price that encouraged other suppliers to enter the market. .22 isn't. Additional supply would probably encourage the neckbearders to stop hoarding and adversely affect anyone who'd spent capital to expand capacity or set up a new supplier. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:58:03 PM EDT
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The Dicks Sporting Goods store has a full 2 foot wide shelf jammed packed with Rem Subsonics in those square clear plastic 100ct boxes. Been sitting there for almost 2 weeks. Cabelas has it on the shelf in the afternoon still most days. It's coming back. Academy has Colibri... |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:58:25 PM EDT
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20bucks a BRICK... i'll call if its more no need to make the pm (call) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a pile. PM me for prices 20bucks a BRICK... i'll call if its more no need to make the pm (call) No deal. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:03:30 PM EDT
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Our walmarts get nothing at all. I would be there at 5 am if it helped. Walmart needs to start putting out ammo at random times. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Go to a gun show and you'll see thousands of boxes for $90-$100. Everyone still lines up at 6am at walmart and buys everything that comes in. Our walmarts get nothing at all. I would be there at 5 am if it helped. Walmart needs to start putting out ammo at random times. I'm 99% positive they do get it, but the employees probably keep it hidden for their friends. I saw an employee getting some tula 223 out from under the counter for someone here 
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:03:33 PM EDT
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I've seen .22 on the shelves at Cabela's only once in the past two years. I picked up two 50-round boxes and when I went back about 15 minutes later, it was all gone.
BUT... finding .22 online has been easy. Graf's has it, Sportsman Guide has it, Champion Shooters has it, Palmetto has it, all at reasonable prices. I've bought about a dozen bricks in the past couple of months, just one or two at a time when it becomes available, no neckbearding. Bought a brick of CCI Standard Velocity earlier today, along with a 325-pack of Federal AutoMatch, from Palmetto State Armory. Top-grade target ammo is plentiful. It's not cheap, but it never has been. I shoot a .22 match rifle competitively, so I go through a lot of it. Stop lurking the WalMarts and let your mouse do the shopping for you. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:03:55 PM EDT
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Is the profit margin too low on 22 long rifle to bother producing more? They're already running 24/7 on the machinery they have. The problem is, increasing production requires a significant capital investment. There's no assurance that the increased level of demand will continue, so the manufacturers have little incentive to invest. They just milk the cash cow they have. I. Do. Not. Believe. it. I don't either. Nobody runs 24/7 for 10 cents a round. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:04:14 PM EDT
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When it comes back I'm buying it all and stacking it deep It ridiculous that it has taken as long as it has for supply to catch up. But every gun guy I know will snatch up any .22 they see as long as it's not outrageously priced. I've still fired off more then I could purchase since the panic. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:04:19 PM EDT
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You haven't been utilizing your team membership
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:06:59 PM EDT
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Every place around here still has guys at the door every morning an hour before they open that immediately head to the gun counter and ask for .22 when the doors open.
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:07:13 PM EDT
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Fucking neckbeards.... |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:12:07 PM EDT
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Is the profit margin too low on 22 long rifle to bother producing more? They're already running 24/7 on the machinery they have. The problem is, increasing production requires a significant capital investment. There's no assurance that the increased level of demand will continue, so the manufacturers have little incentive to invest. They just milk the cash cow they have. I. Do. Not. Believe. it. date 2013 http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/08/08/beebe-pryor-welcome-remington-expansion-in-lonoke Beebe, Pryor welcome Remington expansion in Lonoke Posted By Max Brantley on Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:39 AM Gov. Mike Beebe and Sen. Mark Pryor were marquee attendees today as Remington Arms broke ground on a new building for its ammunition plant at Lonoke. Quotable: “As an avid hunter and gun owner, I’m particularly excited to help announce this expansion,” Senator Pryor said. “Remington has been an economic engine in our state for years, and this will allow them to bring even more jobs and development to central Arkansas.” Roby Brock at Talk Business was on hand with more details and lots more from tagging along with Pryor at various appearances............ |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:20:43 PM EDT
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You haven't been utilizing your team membership Sadly my present location precludes mail order purchase of .22lr unless I want to pay an extra $6 per brick plus shipping. FUAC. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:20:51 PM EDT
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Indeed. In fact, it seems to be getting worse, a few months ago, you would occasionally see bricks.
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:26:58 PM EDT
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Is the profit margin too low on 22 long rifle to bother producing more? They're already running 24/7 on the machinery they have. The problem is, increasing production requires a significant capital investment. There's no assurance that the increased level of demand will continue, so the manufacturers have little incentive to invest. They just milk the cash cow they have. I. Do. Not. Believe. it. date 2013 http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/08/08/beebe-pryor-welcome-remington-expansion-in-lonoke Beebe, Pryor welcome Remington expansion in Lonoke Posted By Max Brantley on Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:39 AM Gov. Mike Beebe and Sen. Mark Pryor were marquee attendees today as Remington Arms broke ground on a new building for its ammunition plant at Lonoke. Quotable: “As an avid hunter and gun owner, I’m particularly excited to help announce this expansion,” Senator Pryor said. “Remington has been an economic engine in our state for years, and this will allow them to bring even more jobs and development to central Arkansas.” Roby Brock at Talk Business was on hand with more details and lots more from tagging along with Pryor at various appearances............ that's 2 years ago and I don't see any shitty Remington .22 LR in any store here in Tulsa. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:27:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In the last two years the demand would have paid off new equipment, new buildings, new Beemers for each worker, and daily knob polishing for the executives. WTF are they waiting for? This correction will take years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is the profit margin too low on 22 long rifle to bother producing more? They're already running 24/7 on the machinery they have. The problem is, increasing production requires a significant capital investment. There's no assurance that the increased level of demand will continue, so the manufacturers have little incentive to invest. They just milk the cash cow they have. In the last two years the demand would have paid off new equipment, new buildings, new Beemers for each worker, and daily knob polishing for the executives. WTF are they waiting for? This correction will take years. Eta- everyone is adding capacity. When demand is 100% of production at Amy level you either see it or you don't. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:28:47 PM EDT
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Around here there is no 22 to neckbeard. None.
The last time I was at my local Cabela's, they didn't even have an empty shelf space for .22 of any flavor. Local Walmarts don't sell any either. I'm signed up to email alerts from Champion Shooters. In the past year I've received one email. The last time I went to a gun show there was a small amount of .22 available. Most of the boxes looked like they have been riding under a pickup seat for a few months. Definitely not new production. The whole neckbeard excuse is bullshit. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:28:50 PM EDT
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I miss the Walmart Federal 550 round bulk packs for $8.87. Believe it or not that was actually in this century 2008.. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:42:11 PM EDT
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Sadly my present location precludes mail order purchase of .22lr unless I want to pay an extra $6 per brick plus shipping. FUAC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You haven't been utilizing your team membership Sadly my present location precludes mail order purchase of .22lr unless I want to pay an extra $6 per brick plus shipping. FUAC. How far from the PA/OH border along I-90 are you? I would hold an ammo orders for you. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 12:03:26 AM EDT
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The OP mentioned "CCI Blazer", I am not sure they still make that line...?
See anything in this link? http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/products.aspx |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 12:07:28 AM EDT
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I haven't shot any 22 since sometime in 2013. I honestly don't understand why people are still going full retard over the stuff. Different strokes I guess.
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Posted: 3/26/2015 12:13:20 AM EDT
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Because of the ARFcom ammo app the wife and I beat the Neckbeards she got 3 Federal 550 bricks and 3 Winchester M22 1000 round boxes, same for me . There was Federal bricks left , not many .
We gave 1000 rounds to the Boy Scout troop for free , sold 4 bricks to friends at cost . Rest I am hoarding |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 12:32:45 AM EDT
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Because of the ARFcom ammo app the wife and I beat the Neckbeards she got 3 Federal 550 bricks and 3 Winchester M22 1000 round boxes, same for me . There was Federal bricks left , not many . We gave 1000 rounds to the Boy Scout troop for free , sold 4 bricks to friends at cost . Rest I am hoarding Let the Troop know that ATK is offering their youth ammo program again this year. I can IM details when I get them next week. 25k/club this year. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 12:35:21 AM EDT
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This is completely because people are still buying everything they can get the hands on, all the time.
It is self-perpetuating. People are buying it whenever they can because it is scarce. It is scarce because people are buying it whenever they can. I don't understand why the "speculators" are still buying it. No one is willing to pay $100 a brick right now of CCI Standard, whereas last year it wasn't unheard of. I just bought one for $40, but I could only buy one... |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 12:44:17 AM EDT
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The OP mentioned "CCI Blazer", I am not sure they still make that line...? See anything in this link? http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/products.aspx Yes Blazer is still being made. It's just non copper plated Mini-Mag. I like it except it's a little loud in my suppressed 22 pistol. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 12:50:57 AM EDT
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That's weird, I got tons of it.
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Posted: 3/26/2015 12:56:01 AM EDT
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They're already running 24/7 on the machinery they have. The problem is, increasing production requires a significant capital investment. There's no assurance that the increased level of demand will continue, so the manufacturers have little incentive to invest. They just milk the cash cow they have. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is the profit margin too low on 22 long rifle to bother producing more? They're already running 24/7 on the machinery they have. The problem is, increasing production requires a significant capital investment. There's no assurance that the increased level of demand will continue, so the manufacturers have little incentive to invest. They just milk the cash cow they have. I'm tired of hearing that. It's been over 6 years since the .22 shortage began. If they don't have enough reason to increase capacity yet, they apparently never will. I refuse to buy another .22 rifle or pistol until I can buy CCI SV at Fleet Farm, just like I did for decades. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 12:58:33 AM EDT
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The OP mentioned "CCI Blazer", I am not sure they still make that line...? See anything in this link? http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/products.aspx its on this page, http://www.blazer-ammo.com/rimfire.aspx |
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