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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:09:15 AM EDT
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Can't shoot where I grew up shooting anymore either.
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:11:10 AM EDT
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He said he could confiscate our guns and charge us with a misdemeanor. Also said we have to display a "Discover Pass" on our vehicle when accessing our state lanes (Kings land - I get it!) He informed me that there is a good place to shoot if if had contued our little hike about another 1/4 mile. I apologized and said we try to observer all the rules and thanked him for his leniency.
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:11:53 AM EDT
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Can't shoot on state lands? I'm not sure on the regulations here, but I think if it's not allowed they post signs. I live a ways away from the nearest state land though.
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:12:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He said he could confiscate our guns and charge us with a misdemeanor. Also said we have to display a "Discover Pass" on our vehicle when accessing our state lanes (Kings land - I get it!) He informed me that there is a good place to shoot if if had contued our little hike about another 1/4 mile. I apologized and said we try to observer all the rules and thanked him for his leniency. If you could shoot 1/4 mile away why not where you were at? |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:13:01 AM EDT
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I think it didn't hurt that I had my boys with me. We are clean cut and were being safe. We also did not bring any to trash to shoot at and mess the place up - we brought clay pigeons. Probably would have gone down differently if it was three adults with a case of beer shooting empty bottles.
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:14:02 AM EDT
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Can't shoot where I grew up shooting anymore either. Shit happens. This......but bullshit happens! |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:14:02 AM EDT
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Went shooting 22's with my boys on a logging road. Logging road is gated - state lands - no motorized vehicle. We walked about a mile down to a spot I have been shooting for almost 30 years. About the time we were wrapping things up, a county sheriff truck drives up. Got busted when shooting :-( Warning only. He was pretty cool about it. Where were you? |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:14:03 AM EDT
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If you could shoot 1/4 mile away why not where you were at? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He said he could confiscate our guns and charge us with a misdemeanor. Also said we have to display a "Discover Pass" on our vehicle when accessing our state lanes (Kings land - I get it!) He informed me that there is a good place to shoot if if had contued our little hike about another 1/4 mile. I apologized and said we try to observer all the rules and thanked him for his leniency. If you could shoot 1/4 mile away why not where you were at? Shrug. Thought we were cool where we were at. Been shooting there for decades. Pretty obvious lots of others do as well. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:14:54 AM EDT
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Went shooting 22's with my boys on a logging road. Logging road is gated - state lands - no motorized vehicle. We walked about a mile down to a spot I have been shooting for almost 30 years. About the time we were wrapping things up, a county sheriff truck drives up. Got busted when shooting :-( Warning only. He was pretty cool about it. Where were you? Outside of Granite Falls in Snohomish County |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:15:16 AM EDT
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In WA, you mist always do your research before doing any non-range, outdoor shooting. And, how do you not know about the Discover pass?
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:16:23 AM EDT
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I was a little nervous, of course. Getting caught by the police doing something wrong makes anyone a little nervous, I guess.
Good for the boys to see how to interact with sheriff/police - teach them the right way to do it. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:16:31 AM EDT
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Went shooting 22's with my boys on a logging road. Logging road is gated - state lands - no motorized vehicle. We walked about a mile down to a spot I have been shooting for almost 30 years. About the time we were wrapping things up, a county sheriff truck drives up. Got busted when shooting :-( Warning only. He was pretty cool about it. Where were you? Outside of Granite Falls in Snohomish County That used to be my old stomping grounds. I had such a great shooting spot. It's all been cracked down on for various reasons. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:17:07 AM EDT
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In WA, you mist always do your research before doing any non-range, outdoor shooting. And, how do you not know about the Discover pass? I know about the discover pass. Just not ALL about it. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:17:44 AM EDT
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Discover Pass ...pretty creative name for Pay a Tax to Set Foot on Land You Own.
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:18:05 AM EDT
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Went shooting 22's with my boys on a logging road. Logging road is gated - state lands - no motorized vehicle. We walked about a mile down to a spot I have been shooting for almost 30 years. About the time we were wrapping things up, a county sheriff truck drives up. Got busted when shooting :-( Warning only. He was pretty cool about it. Busted for what? |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:18:37 AM EDT
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Officer never asked for my indentification, or took my guns for 'officer safety' or to check serial numbers or anything. Pretty friendly guy.
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:18:39 AM EDT
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Discover Pass ...pretty creative name for Pay a Tax to Set Foot on Land You Own. Yeah, it sucks... but they're the ones maintaining it. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:21:29 AM EDT
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Went shooting 22's with my boys on a logging road. Logging road is gated - state lands - no motorized vehicle. We walked about a mile down to a spot I have been shooting for almost 30 years. About the time we were wrapping things up, a county sheriff truck drives up. Got busted when shooting :-( Warning only. He was pretty cool about it. Busted for what? I edited my grammar - thanks They don't want people to shoot at that spot any more. Officer suggested we go another 1/4 mile down the road next time. Said some houses nearby had been hit by gunfire in the past. I am sure that is possible, but you would have to be a real dumb ass for that to happen - like practically trying. Houses are not near - but I guess if you are shooting UP or something - well - who knows where that sucker is coming down? |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:22:19 AM EDT
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That used to be my old stomping grounds. I had such a great shooting spot. It's all been cracked down on for various reasons. Let me guess...the detrimental effects of lead on local wildlife? 
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:22:57 AM EDT
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He said he could confiscate our guns and charge us with a misdemeanor. Also said we have to display a "Discover Pass" on our vehicle when accessing our state lanes (Kings land - I get it!) He informed me that there is a good place to shoot if if had contued our little hike about another 1/4 mile. I apologized and said we try to observer all the rules and thanked him for his leniency. In a 1/4 mi more no one would here it to report it? Or, in 1/4 mi more you would not be on state land? For what would be the misdemeanor? |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:25:18 AM EDT
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Let me guess...the detrimental effects of lead on local wildlife? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That used to be my old stomping grounds. I had such a great shooting spot. It's all been cracked down on for various reasons. Let me guess...the detrimental effects of lead on local wildlife? No. People absolutely trashing the shooting spots, turning them into little landfills. The negligent homicides with firearms didn't help either. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:25:25 AM EDT
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He said he could confiscate our guns and charge us with a misdemeanor... Oh so he was cool about it in the sense that he didn't actually do those things, but not cool enough to not do those things without making sure you knew he could do those things if he wanted. Got it. 
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:27:07 AM EDT
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In a 1/4 mi more no one would here it to report it? Or, in 1/4 mi more you would not be on state land? For what would be the misdemeanor? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He said he could confiscate our guns and charge us with a misdemeanor. Also said we have to display a "Discover Pass" on our vehicle when accessing our state lanes (Kings land - I get it!) He informed me that there is a good place to shoot if if had contued our little hike about another 1/4 mile. I apologized and said we try to observer all the rules and thanked him for his leniency. In a 1/4 mi more no one would here it to report it? Or, in 1/4 mi more you would not be on state land? For what would be the misdemeanor? In a quarter mile more, there is a spot that is in compliance with the laws regarding shooting on state lands. I have not looked it up yet, but I think because we were shooting on a road (even though a gated no vehicle access road)a quarter mile further there is a fork in the road, if I take the left as the officer suggests, it dead ends in an old gravel pit. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:27:14 AM EDT
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Shrug. Thought we were cool where we were at. Been shooting there for decades. Pretty obvious lots of others do as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He said he could confiscate our guns and charge us with a misdemeanor. Also said we have to display a "Discover Pass" on our vehicle when accessing our state lanes (Kings land - I get it!) He informed me that there is a good place to shoot if if had contued our little hike about another 1/4 mile. I apologized and said we try to observer all the rules and thanked him for his leniency. If you could shoot 1/4 mile away why not where you were at? Shrug. Thought we were cool where we were at. Been shooting there for decades. Pretty obvious lots of others do as well. Just avoid doing anything on/in/within state lands and never fund any state land fund, including hunting and boating if possible. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:28:22 AM EDT
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Oh so he was cool about it in the sense that he didn't actually do those things, but not cool enough to not do those things without making sure you knew he could do those things if he wanted. Got it.
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He said he could confiscate our guns and charge us with a misdemeanor... Oh so he was cool about it in the sense that he didn't actually do those things, but not cool enough to not do those things without making sure you knew he could do those things if he wanted. Got it.
Or, he was warning the OP, you know, giving him a little hint, that a different officer would or could do those things. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:28:25 AM EDT
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Oh so he was cool about it in the sense that he didn't actually do those things, but not cool enough to not do those things without making sure you knew he could do those things if he wanted. Got it.
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He said he could confiscate our guns and charge us with a misdemeanor... Oh so he was cool about it in the sense that he didn't actually do those things, but not cool enough to not do those things without making sure you knew he could do those things if he wanted. Got it.
I didn't feel it was threatening. IF I did it again, the next cop might not be so nice. Good to know. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:29:37 AM EDT
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No. People absolutely trashing the shooting spots, turning them into little landfills. The negligent homicides with firearms didn't help either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That used to be my old stomping grounds. I had such a great shooting spot. It's all been cracked down on for various reasons. Let me guess...the detrimental effects of lead on local wildlife? No. People absolutely trashing the shooting spots, turning them into little landfills. The negligent homicides with firearms didn't help either. Yeah, that part I imagine. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:29:54 AM EDT
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I didn't feel it was threatening. IF I did it again, the next cop might not be so nice. Good to know. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He said he could confiscate our guns and charge us with a misdemeanor... Oh so he was cool about it in the sense that he didn't actually do those things, but not cool enough to not do those things without making sure you knew he could do those things if he wanted. Got it.
I didn't feel it was threatening. IF I did it again, the next cop might not be so nice. Good to know. I hear ya. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:30:05 AM EDT
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When I was a teenager in the late 70's-early 80's, there was a huge former strip mine out in the sticks that me, and about anyone within 50 miles, would go and shoot, fish, whatever. I shot lots of Mausers, SKS's, AR's, whatever, there. In the 90's some guy bought up the land, fenced it off and began prosecuting anyone who set foot on the land. I was the police by that time and didn't need to go there anymore but it was a great place to go shooting at one time.
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:30:37 AM EDT
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That happened to me as well. We were on our own property shooting multiple AR15's down in the rock quarry.
Sheriff's came saying they had reports of automatic gun fire. Yeah we were throwing lead. They inspected our rifles and left. Funny thing though is we challenged them to a marksmanship contest everything provided and the shariffs turned us down. It sucked because I wanted to see how well a shariff could shoot. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:33:20 AM EDT
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I was a little nervous, of course. Getting caught by the police doing something wrong makes anyone a little nervous, I guess. Good for the boys to see how to interact with sheriff/police - teach them the right way to do it. If the rifles were inexpensive, I my be tempted to volunteer the forfeiture if the misdemeanor is $1,000 or less just to teach the kids how dangerous the law is. I would use the opportunity to make a permanent impression about government and law enforcement. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:37:04 AM EDT
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Oh so he was cool about it in the sense that he didn't actually do those things, but not cool enough to not do those things without making sure you knew he could do those things if he wanted. Got it.
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He said he could confiscate our guns and charge us with a misdemeanor... Oh so he was cool about it in the sense that he didn't actually do those things, but not cool enough to not do those things without making sure you knew he could do those things if he wanted. Got it.
Hey, got make sure the kids know who is boss. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:37:25 AM EDT
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Edited...VA-gunnut
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:38:21 AM EDT
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Yep, maybe slip the deputy a $20 bill and ask him to beat you down in front of your kids too for good measure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was a little nervous, of course. Getting caught by the police doing something wrong makes anyone a little nervous, I guess. Good for the boys to see how to interact with sheriff/police - teach them the right way to do it. If the rifles were inexpensive, I my be tempted to volunteer the forfeiture if the misdemeanor is $1,000 or less just to teach the kids how dangerous the law is. I would use the opportunity to make a permanent impression about government and law enforcement. Yep, maybe slip the deputy a $20 bill and ask him to beat you down in front of your kids too for good measure. ROFL |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:41:07 AM EDT
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That happened to me as well. We were on our own property shooting multiple AR15's down in the rock quarry. Sheriff's came saying they had reports of automatic gun fire. Yeah we were throwing lead. They inspected our rifles and left. Funny thing though is we challenged them to a marksmanship contest everything provided and the shariffs turned us down. It sucked because I wanted to see how well a shariff could shoot. They probably shot better than you spell. 
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:44:20 AM EDT
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I didn't feel it was threatening. IF I did it again, the next cop might not be so nice. Good to know. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He said he could confiscate our guns and charge us with a misdemeanor... Oh so he was cool about it in the sense that he didn't actually do those things, but not cool enough to not do those things without making sure you knew he could do those things if he wanted. Got it.
I didn't feel it was threatening. IF I did it again, the next cop might not be so nice. Good to know. That's a good point. I try to minimize my contact and interactions with LEOs as no good can come of it. I'll have to keep this in mind when going to private shoots where there may/will be LEOs. I'm really not into being someone's female puppy. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:47:05 AM EDT
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Can't shoot where I grew up shooting anymore either. Shit happens. Funny how that happens. 
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:48:05 AM EDT
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Yep, maybe slip the deputy a $20 bill and ask him to beat you down in front of your kids too for good measure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was a little nervous, of course. Getting caught by the police doing something wrong makes anyone a little nervous, I guess. Good for the boys to see how to interact with sheriff/police - teach them the right way to do it. If the rifles were inexpensive, I my be tempted to volunteer the forfeiture if the misdemeanor is $1,000 or less just to teach the kids how dangerous the law is. I would use the opportunity to make a permanent impression about government and law enforcement. Yep, maybe slip the deputy a $20 bill and ask him to beat you down in front of your kids too for good measure. Naw. I don't intentionally set out to break the law. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:49:43 AM EDT
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That happened to me as well. We were on our own property shooting multiple AR15's down in the rock quarry. Sheriff's came saying they had reports of automatic gun fire. Yeah we were throwing lead. They inspected our rifles and left. Funny thing though is we challenged them to a marksmanship contest everything provided and the shariffs turned us down. It sucked because I wanted to see how well a shariff could shoot. They probably shot better than you spell. What IPhone does I claim no resposability. I've drank enough to not give a shit, tomorrow though is a new day. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:54:08 AM EDT
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I think it didn't hurt that I had my boys with me. We are clean cut and were being safe. We also did not bring any to trash to shoot at and mess the place up - we brought clay pigeons. Probably would have gone down differently if it was three adults with a case of beer shooting empty bottles. Yea I guess it helps to have short hair 
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:54:15 AM EDT
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Hey - in some states I could have gone to prison!
Looking at you NJ! |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:56:31 AM EDT
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I think it didn't hurt that I had my boys with me. We are clean cut and were being safe. We also did not bring any to trash to shoot at and mess the place up - we brought clay pigeons. Probably would have gone down differently if it was three adults with a case of beer shooting empty bottles. Yea I guess it helps to have short hair nothing to do with hair length. The phrase means something similar to "not looking like a piece of shit" What it means to look like a piece of shit may vary, but we all know a piece of shit when we see one. Savvy? |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 1:01:26 AM EDT
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In a quarter mile more, there is a spot that is in compliance with the laws regarding shooting on state lands. I have not looked it up yet, but I think because we were shooting on a road (even though a gated no vehicle access road)a quarter mile further there is a fork in the road, if I take the left as the officer suggests, it dead ends in an old gravel pit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He said he could confiscate our guns and charge us with a misdemeanor. Also said we have to display a "Discover Pass" on our vehicle when accessing our state lanes (Kings land - I get it!) He informed me that there is a good place to shoot if if had contued our little hike about another 1/4 mile. I apologized and said we try to observer all the rules and thanked him for his leniency. In a 1/4 mi more no one would here it to report it? Or, in 1/4 mi more you would not be on state land? For what would be the misdemeanor? In a quarter mile more, there is a spot that is in compliance with the laws regarding shooting on state lands. I have not looked it up yet, but I think because we were shooting on a road (even though a gated no vehicle access road)a quarter mile further there is a fork in the road, if I take the left as the officer suggests, it dead ends in an old gravel pit. Yeah, I knew there was a little more to the story. In the states I have worked in: You are not permitted to shoot while standing on a road. You are not permitted to shoot across a road. You are not permitted to randomly shoot at trees or use trees for a target. If you left ANY of the clay pigeon pieces laying around that would be littering. Brush up on the laws a little. Sounds like you met a cool officer. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 1:03:59 AM EDT
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nothing to do with hair length. The phrase means something similar to "not looking like a piece of shit" What it means to look like a piece of shit may vary, but we all know a piece of shit when we see one. Savvy? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think it didn't hurt that I had my boys with me. We are clean cut and were being safe. We also did not bring any to trash to shoot at and mess the place up - we brought clay pigeons. Probably would have gone down differently if it was three adults with a case of beer shooting empty bottles. Yea I guess it helps to have short hair nothing to do with hair length. The phrase means something similar to "not looking like a piece of shit" What it means to look like a piece of shit may vary, but we all know a piece of shit when we see one. Savvy? There are advantages to not being a hobo. HashtagPrivilege. #DealWithIt |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 1:12:16 AM EDT
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I'm pretty darn sure that discover pass is only for motor vehicles on state land where it is posted that it is required. If you walk it in, I don't know why that would be needed.
I do know that they randomly shut down spots all over here in WA. Some of the spots totally follow the guidelines for shooting on BLM land and I think they just get complaints due to people using the same spots to dump and then shooters shooting up the trash. I really doubt they could actually get you on it. Really they are just trying to keep you from coming back. I have no clue why so many of these places get shut down, but do not have posted signs. Literally the maps that they have showing where you can and can't shoot do not have enough fidelity to know what is a legit site. So basically you just have to hope that the spot you picked is okay until told otherwise. Pretty damn annoying and perfect example of chilling effect. Supposedly there are some RCWs that allow them to shut down shooting areas very easily with no real oversight. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 1:16:46 AM EDT
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I was a little nervous, of course. Getting caught by the police doing something wrong makes anyone a little nervous, I guess. Good for the boys to see how to interact with sheriff/police - teach them the right way to do it. Wait a minute, the cop DIDN'T shoot your kids???? Why weren't they putting up more of fight and trying to wrestle his gun away???? 
Come on, All The Famous & Cool Kids are doing it these day!!! Trayvon, Big Mike and others too! Oh, that's right, you actually PARENTED your kids.... 
BIGGER_HAMMER 
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Posted: 3/23/2015 1:28:55 AM EDT
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If the rifles were inexpensive, I my be tempted to volunteer the forfeiture if the misdemeanor is $1,000 or less just to teach the kids how dangerous the law is. I would use the opportunity to make a permanent impression about government and law enforcement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was a little nervous, of course. Getting caught by the police doing something wrong makes anyone a little nervous, I guess. Good for the boys to see how to interact with sheriff/police - teach them the right way to do it. If the rifles were inexpensive, I my be tempted to volunteer the forfeiture if the misdemeanor is $1,000 or less just to teach the kids how dangerous the law is. I would use the opportunity to make a permanent impression about government and law enforcement. You are supposed to try and punk the police officer then you are supposed to charge the officer then try and take his gun from him. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 1:33:56 AM EDT
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Yea I am pretty sure shooting 'across' a DNR land road or shooting from the road is a big no no on state DNR land.
We used to have WAHTF shoots at a pit just outside Granite Falls about 10yrs ago ... they shut that one down long ago
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Posted: 3/23/2015 1:43:52 AM EDT
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Yeah, I knew there was a little more to the story. In the states I have worked in: You are not permitted to shoot while standing on a road. You are not permitted to shoot across a road. You are not permitted to randomly shoot at trees or use trees for a target. If you left ANY of the clay pigeon pieces laying around that would be littering. Brush up on the laws a little. Sounds like you met a cool officer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He said he could confiscate our guns and charge us with a misdemeanor. Also said we have to display a "Discover Pass" on our vehicle when accessing our state lanes (Kings land - I get it!) He informed me that there is a good place to shoot if if had contued our little hike about another 1/4 mile. I apologized and said we try to observer all the rules and thanked him for his leniency. In a 1/4 mi more no one would here it to report it? Or, in 1/4 mi more you would not be on state land? For what would be the misdemeanor? In a quarter mile more, there is a spot that is in compliance with the laws regarding shooting on state lands. I have not looked it up yet, but I think because we were shooting on a road (even though a gated no vehicle access road)a quarter mile further there is a fork in the road, if I take the left as the officer suggests, it dead ends in an old gravel pit. Yeah, I knew there was a little more to the story. In the states I have worked in: You are not permitted to shoot while standing on a road. You are not permitted to shoot across a road. You are not permitted to randomly shoot at trees or use trees for a target. If you left ANY of the clay pigeon pieces laying around that would be littering. Brush up on the laws a little. Sounds like you met a cool officer. Agreed |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 1:44:21 AM EDT
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Did you admit you illegally transferred the guns? I don't know anyone here that takes someone else shooting or will shoot anyone else's gun after that became illegal.z
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