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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:10:04 PM EDT
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the first ones to panic. got ammo at a cheaper price. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it really "Panicking" when there's a legitimate reason? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yes. Panicking in any situation is not helpful. the first ones to panic. got ammo at a cheaper price. And the ones that learned from prior panics and bought over the past 6 months or so got it at a cheaper price than both groups |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:10:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:15:23 PM EDT
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(<---snickers) Still shooting LC lot #9
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:21:01 PM EDT
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Gouging? Do you hate capitalism?  Maybe he doesn't understand economics. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:22:54 PM EDT
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35cpr with clips, free shipping, and a new ammo can.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it really "Panicking" when there's a legitimate reason? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yes. Panicking in any situation is not helpful. the first ones to panic. got ammo at a cheaper price. 35cpr with clips, free shipping, and a new ammo can. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:25:24 PM EDT
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I'm not to blame. I bought a ton of Wolf this last year while it was cheap and plentiful. The last time I purchased ammo was Black Friday.
ETA: You could successfully convince 100% of Arf members to not panic buy, and it wouldn't change the market one bit. We are a tiny minority. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:25:46 PM EDT
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well if they cant sell it after the 16th they better not hold onto it too much longer lol! Who is they? It won't be illegal for the Beards to sell after the 16th....only ffls and manufacturers. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:26:54 PM EDT
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I didn't do nuffin. I makes my own. 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:29:40 PM EDT
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I went to my LGS today and there was PLENTY of 5.56/.223 in lots of different flavors. Price was more than I want to pay but it was there if someone wanted to purchase.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:31:54 PM EDT
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I sure as hell ain't responsible. I haven't bought factory .223/5.56 ammo in years. Not my fault either, I don't even own anything in .223/5.56. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:32:57 PM EDT
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I went to my LGS today and there was PLENTY of 5.56/.223 in lots of different flavors. Price was more than I want to pay but it was there if someone wanted to purchase. lol, i have never been to my LGS and the price was not more than i wanted to pay. 
$19.99 for crap 9mm AYFKM! |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:33:25 PM EDT
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It’s the fear of an out of control administration and lawless Gov that is causing all these major panic buys since 2008. Some ignorance and profit taking feeds all these panics, but it is not the root cause. If you really think about it, these buying panics have been going on and off since the early to mid 90s. Us older folks will recall the major primer and powder shortages back in the day when the Gov threatened to put taggets and markers in primers and powder. This cat and mouse game has been going on for a long time.
It sucks that ammo and powder is expensive and hard to find at times, but it will eventually go back down. Look at the bright side; these recent buying panics pushed forward 10-15 years worth of normal demand in just the last few years. So many people now have ARs, AKs, hi-cap handguns, tactical shotguns, tons of mags and thousands upon thousands of rounds of ammo it’s absolutely mind-boggling. The anti-gun/anti-freedom pushers have failed miserably at the federal level. They have people so spooked and pissed off, every time they open their mouths with some new nutty anti-gun proposal; millions of folks go out and buy even more guns, ammo and mags just to spite. I hope the fools continue squawking about banning guns and ammo, if they keep it up, eventually the population will be so armed, they won’t be able to do a damn thing about it no matter what laws they try to pass. The more guns, mags and ammo in the hands of citizens the better. 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:36:55 PM EDT
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We ? I have about 1000 rounds of factory ammo that was given to me years ago , I reload everything I shoot , I have approx 8,000 XM 193 , 2,000 varmint bullets , 2,000MKs and at least 1,000 misc. bullets of various weights and profiles , with just about enough powders and primers to cover them all , it's not an ammo fort but I'm not panicking
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:45:29 PM EDT
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It’s the fear of an out of control administration and lawless Gov that is causing all these major panic buys since 2008. Some ignorance and profit taking feeds all these panics, but it is not the root cause. If you really think about it, these buying panics have been going on and off since the early to mid 90s. Us older folks will recall the major primer and powder shortages back in the day when the Gov threatened to put taggets and markers in primers and powder. This cat and mouse game has been going on for a long time. It sucks that ammo and powder is expensive and hard to find at times, but it will eventually go back down. Look at the bright side; these recent buying panics pushed forward 10-15 years worth of normal demand in just the last few years. So many people now have ARs, AKs, hi-cap handguns, tactical shotguns, tons of mags and thousands upon thousands of rounds of ammo it’s absolutely mind-boggling. The anti-gun/anti-freedom pushers have failed miserably at the federal level. They have people so spooked and pissed off, every time they open their mouths with some new nutty anti-gun proposal; millions of folks go out and buy even more guns, ammo and mags just to spite. I hope the fools continue squawking about banning guns and ammo, if they keep it up, eventually the population will be so armed, they won’t be able to do a damn thing about it no matter what laws they try to pass. The more guns, mags and ammo in the hands of citizens the better. Fukin A! |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:48:06 PM EDT
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I'm not to blame.
I haven't bought ammo in years, and I refuse to pay panic prices. I may have contributed to the powder and reloading supply shortage......
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:48:36 PM EDT
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And the ones that learned from prior panics and bought over the past 6 months or so got it at a cheaper price than both groups Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it really "Panicking" when there's a legitimate reason? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yes. Panicking in any situation is not helpful. the first ones to panic. got ammo at a cheaper price. And the ones that learned from prior panics and bought over the past 6 months or so got it at a cheaper price than both groups Yup. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:53:02 PM EDT
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the first ones to panic. got ammo at a cheaper price. I would like to recognize the man with the unusual choice in underwear for this spot on reflection. Call me chicken little if you want to. But my ammo stash is already full, bitches! 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:55:17 PM EDT
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probably more me than you
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:59:18 PM EDT
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So everyone enjoying "capitalism" at its finest, who've not "panicked" but has bought thousands of green tips in the last couple weeks, now what? You may have something that will be banned, you won't shoot it because well it's banned and you can't find it anymore, but you'll have spent neckbearding prices, another reason why you won't shoot it. Will the ammo just sit in a closet somewhere? I guess I just don't get it. I guess it was bought because the gov says you can't have it, now it's going to collect dust, buy hey, you managed to find some just because
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:01:44 PM EDT
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So everyone enjoying "capitalism" at its finest, who've not "panicked" but has bought thousands of green tips in the last couple weeks, now what? You may have something that will be banned, you won't shoot it because well it's banned and you can't find it anymore, but you'll have spent neckbearding prices, another reason why you won't shoot it. Will the ammo just sit in a closet somewhere? I guess I just don't get it. I guess it was bought because the gov says you can't have it, now it's going to collect dust, buy hey, you managed to find some just because . Good for you!So, you failed to stock up after the last panic right? |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:07:07 PM EDT
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So everyone enjoying "capitalism" at its finest, who've not "panicked" but has bought thousands of green tips in the last couple weeks, now what? You may have something that will be banned, you won't shoot it because well it's banned and you can't find it anymore, but you'll have spent neckbearding prices, another reason why you won't shoot it. Will the ammo just sit in a closet somewhere? I guess I just don't get it. I guess it was bought because the gov says you can't have it, now it's going to collect dust, buy hey, you managed to find some just because . Good for you!Why don't you tell us how you really feel? |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:07:21 PM EDT
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Nope , been good for a long while.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:10:15 PM EDT
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Traded about $275 of m855 today for a keltec pmr-30. True story
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:21:24 PM EDT
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We panic like there is no tomorrow. We create stories without facts. Ban has not happened yet. It's a ploy. Now stores are starting to hoard and will later put it out with higher prices. Price Gouging has began. Wake up everyone! Stop the panic. Instead, conserve ammo. Don't be fooled by hearsay and bite the ploy  Don't EVEN try to blame me! I refuse to participate in the panic/ hysteria. And I'll be double-damned if I EVER pay stupid high prices for ammo during a shortage/panic fueled by neckbeards. I don't hate capitalism nor do I have much .223 or .22 at all, but that doesn't matter. I have other things I can do in the meantime.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:30:44 PM EDT
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So everyone enjoying "capitalism" at its finest, who've not "panicked" but has bought thousands of green tips in the last couple weeks, now what? You may have something that will be banned, you won't shoot it because well it's banned and you can't find it anymore, but you'll have spent neckbearding prices, another reason why you won't shoot it. Will the ammo just sit in a closet somewhere? I guess I just don't get it. I guess it was bought because the gov says you can't have it, now it's going to collect dust, buy hey, you managed to find some just because . Good for you!Nope. I'd say you don't really understand how Capitalism comes into this. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:34:07 PM EDT
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So everyone enjoying "capitalism" at its finest, who've not "panicked" but has bought thousands of green tips in the last couple weeks, now what? You may have something that will be banned, you won't shoot it because well it's banned and you can't find it anymore, but you'll have spent neckbearding prices, another reason why you won't shoot it. Will the ammo just sit in a closet somewhere? I guess I just don't get it. I guess it was bought because the gov says you can't have it, now it's going to collect dust, buy hey, you managed to find some just because . Good for you!Why can't I resell it later on again....for a giant profit? |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:36:25 PM EDT
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Why can't I resell it later on again....for a giant profit? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So everyone enjoying "capitalism" at its finest, who've not "panicked" but has bought thousands of green tips in the last couple weeks, now what? You may have something that will be banned, you won't shoot it because well it's banned and you can't find it anymore, but you'll have spent neckbearding prices, another reason why you won't shoot it. Will the ammo just sit in a closet somewhere? I guess I just don't get it. I guess it was bought because the gov says you can't have it, now it's going to collect dust, buy hey, you managed to find some just because . Good for you!Why can't I resell it later on again....for a giant profit? GOUGER!!!!!!!1! |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:38:01 PM EDT
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We panic like there is no tomorrow. We create stories without facts. Ban has not happened yet. It's a ploy. Now stores are starting to hoard and will later put it out with higher prices. Price Gouging has began. Wake up everyone! Stop the panic. Instead, conserve ammo. Don't be fooled by hearsay and bite the ploy I laughed. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:40:29 PM EDT
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Gosh, I wish I had read this before. Damn, I have never read anything like this, in a dozen or so threads, on this site. OP is a genius and an original thinker.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:43:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:49:09 PM EDT
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Ha.
Ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha. Not me sucker.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:49:19 PM EDT
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Your'e trying to stop a runaway train by standing in the middle of the tracks, not gonna work..
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:51:18 PM EDT
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Don't EVEN try to blame me! I refuse to participate in the panic/ hysteria. And I'll be double-damned if I EVER pay stupid high prices for ammo during a shortage/panic fueled by neckbeards. I don't hate capitalism nor do I have much .223 or .22 at all, but that doesn't matter. I have other things I can do in the meantime.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We panic like there is no tomorrow. We create stories without facts. Ban has not happened yet. It's a ploy. Now stores are starting to hoard and will later put it out with higher prices. Price Gouging has began. Wake up everyone! Stop the panic. Instead, conserve ammo. Don't be fooled by hearsay and bite the ploy Don't EVEN try to blame me! I refuse to participate in the panic/ hysteria. And I'll be double-damned if I EVER pay stupid high prices for ammo during a shortage/panic fueled by neckbeards. I don't hate capitalism nor do I have much .223 or .22 at all, but that doesn't matter. I have other things I can do in the meantime.I paid $9.99 per 30 for ZQ1 ammo TODAY at Walmart. That was a good price 6 weeks ago, even moreso now. Gonna hang onto this for a bit, it doesn't go bad and my rifles like it. If it doesn't get banned, well it's gonna get made into reloadable brass. 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:58:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: (<---snickers) Still shooting LC lot #9 I got you beat   |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:01:45 PM EDT
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We panic like there is no tomorrow. We create stories without facts. Ban has not happened yet. I get so sick of hearing this kind of misinformed bullshit. The ban HAS HAPPENED. It is law. It's a done deal. The time for debate was many months ago. It's a set in stone law. The only thing the Federal Gov't is doing at this point is taking comment on how to best implement the BAN that is already SET IN PLACE, DONE DEAL. You can comment up until March 16th but the ban is a DONE DEAL ! |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:03:13 PM EDT
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Go back to your cave, OP! It's not my fault that ammo prices are high; it is directly the ATF's fault because they've proposed a ban on arguably one of the top two most common practice rounds. Your logic is bad and you should feel bad. NO ! The ATF has NOT "proposed a ban". The ATF HAS BANNED ! |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:07:48 PM EDT
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NO ! The ATF has NOT "proposed a ban". The ATF HAS BANNED ! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Go back to your cave, OP! It's not my fault that ammo prices are high; it is directly the ATF's fault because they've proposed a ban on arguably one of the top two most common practice rounds. Your logic is bad and you should feel bad. NO ! The ATF has NOT "proposed a ban". The ATF HAS BANNED ! HAS BANNED would be past-tense. M855 is still, albeit temporarily, legal to sell (if you can find any). I still stand correct, it is still a Proposed Ban because they could change their mind before it is implemented. That was beside the point and really has no bearing on what I was trying to convey though... |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:09:30 PM EDT
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panic is not knowing what to do next.
i know what to do next--buy more ammo. hence, no panic. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:12:36 PM EDT
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It's not possible to "gouge" on anything but food and water--and then even that's debatable.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:28:28 PM EDT
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I am so glad that the OP came here to educate us on the evil of our ways
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:34:33 PM EDT
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We panic like there is no tomorrow. We create stories without facts. Ban has not happened yet. It's a ploy. Now stores are starting to hoard and will later put it out with higher prices. Price Gouging has began. Wake up everyone! Stop the panic. Instead, conserve ammo. Don't be fooled by hearsay and bite the ploy "Stop buying Ammo so I can buy ammo" That's the only take away I get from these posts. There is no alternative reality where everyone calmly gets in line to buy Ammo at a regular price. That's not how this works. Buy whatever you want folks. It's your money, spend it however you want (or not) . The market ain't holding it's breath waiting for you to act either way. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:36:06 PM EDT
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Panic buying for gun owners, is like an Apple launch for hipsters. It is kind of a sport now!
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:37:39 PM EDT
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Panic buying for gun owners, is like an Apple launch for hipsters. It is kind of a sport now! Yeah no shit! Sure seems that way. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:43:36 PM EDT
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We panic like there is no tomorrow. We create stories without facts. Ban has not happened yet. It's a ploy. Now stores are starting to hoard and will later put it out with higher prices. Price Gouging has began. Wake up everyone! Stop the panic. Instead, conserve ammo. Don't be fooled by hearsay and bite the ploy Blames people "creating stories without fact". Says stores are hording. Nice one, OP. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:55:49 PM EDT
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I get so sick of hearing this kind of misinformed bullshit. The ban HAS HAPPENED. It is law. It's a done deal. The time for debate was many months ago. It's a set in stone law. The only thing the Federal Gov't is doing at this point is taking comment on how to best implement the BAN that is already SET IN PLACE, DONE DEAL. You can comment up until March 16th but the ban is a DONE DEAL ! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We panic like there is no tomorrow. We create stories without facts. Ban has not happened yet. I get so sick of hearing this kind of misinformed bullshit. The ban HAS HAPPENED. It is law. It's a done deal. The time for debate was many months ago. It's a set in stone law. The only thing the Federal Gov't is doing at this point is taking comment on how to best implement the BAN that is already SET IN PLACE, DONE DEAL. You can comment up until March 16th but the ban is a DONE DEAL ! It isn't 'banned', just going to be banned from being manufactured or sold by vendors... "prohibits the manufacture, importation, and sale by licensed manufacturers or importers, but not possession, of “a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely . . . from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium." |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:00:05 PM EDT
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(<---snickers) Still shooting LC lot #9 I got you beat
http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=73973 Holy Cow....those are from the days of steam driven AR's and kerosene lit Nite Vision. I humbly concede, Sir. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:01:16 PM EDT
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We panic like there is no tomorrow. We create stories without facts. Ban has not happened yet. It's a ploy. Now stores are starting to hoard and will later put it out with higher prices. Price Gouging has began. Wake up everyone! Stop the panic. Instead, conserve ammo. Don't be fooled by hearsay and bite the ploy <---- hasnt bought 5.56/.223 in over a year, and .22 in over 2 blame yourself Boyo but leave me out of it. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:06:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy Cow....those are from the days of steam driven AR's and kerosene lit Nite Vision. I humbly concede, Sir. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: (<---snickers) Still shooting LC lot #9 I got you beat http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=73973 Holy Cow....those are from the days of steam driven AR's and kerosene lit Nite Vision. I humbly concede, Sir. I think the invoice is in my desk somewhere, but IIRC it was from July 2001 $89.00/1000 from Kiesler's |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:07:16 PM EDT
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I sure as hell ain't responsible. I haven't bought factory .223/5.56 ammo in years. Me too :-) |
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