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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:39:07 PM EDT
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Page 2 ownage and no
Edit to add if someone was to give me one, and it wasn't SHTF I'll take the Arsenal. Worth a good deal more. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:44:07 PM EDT
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You do realize that this site is also AK47.net, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm going to head over to GlockTalk and ask them how many would take an XD over a Glock, too. That's how I originally found this place. 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:50:08 PM EDT
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I'd prefer an AR15, but would have no problem using an AK.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:55:24 PM EDT
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Depends on whether or not the AR barrel is CHF. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:01:04 PM EDT
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Only a fool would take an ak over an ar Only a fool would make a predetermined conclusion before they know what scenario and what environment would present itself 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:04:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:04:46 PM EDT
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Only a fool would take an ak over an ar Only a fool would make a predetermined conclusion before they know what scenario and what environment would present itself There is no scenario where an AK is a better choice. None. Ever. EVER. 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:06:25 PM EDT
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There is no scenario where an AK is a better choice. None. Ever. EVER. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only a fool would take an ak over an ar Only a fool would make a predetermined conclusion before they know what scenario and what environment would present itself There is no scenario where an AK is a better choice. None. Ever. EVER. Sure... 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:07:14 PM EDT
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Only a fool would take an ak over an ar Only a fool would make a predetermined conclusion before they know what scenario and what environment would present itself There is no scenario where an AK is a better choice. None. Ever. EVER. Sure... Lay it out broseph. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:07:50 PM EDT
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I'd take either. I own both. I don't cling to any one platform as the holy grail. Both have their strengths. I'd be ecstatic to have an AK over a sharp stick, but given the choice between one and even the humblest AR it's not even a question. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:08:11 PM EDT
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Only a fool would take an ak over an ar Only a fool would make a predetermined conclusion before they know what scenario and what environment would present itself There is no scenario where an AK is a better choice. None. Ever. EVER. Sure... Well, don't hold back, please edumecate us |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:08:30 PM EDT
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My ARs are primarily hunting guns. My SHTF and HD rifle is an SGL21, my trunk gun is an SLR106. 7.62x39 does everything I need and more, while being cheaper to boot.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:09:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only accurate rifles are interesting. This. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:09:37 PM EDT
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Only a fool would take an ak over an ar Duhuhhuuh Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp!
The availability of ammo can easily invalidate your position. 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:10:22 PM EDT
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Hand AR's to most any 3rd world shithole, come back years later. See how many still work ;)
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:10:25 PM EDT
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Duhuhhuuh Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp!
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Only a fool would take an ak over an ar Duhuhhuuh Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp!
The availability of ammo can easily invalidate your position. Don't go "but what if you only have 7.62 ammo?" If the question was "any gun" over a "club,"....you see where I'm going with this. That wasn't the question. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:10:47 PM EDT
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Nope.
ARs are better in pretty much every way thanks to how many advancements they've had since its introduction. However, sometimes an AR makes things too easy; and I'll carry my Arsenal 104FR or Romanian AKM into the woods. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:11:17 PM EDT
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Panic or no panic? Because I can still get commie ammo in a panic. and I hate cleaning guns |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:11:27 PM EDT
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Of I were illiterate and had no intention of maintaining the weapon I would consider an ak over an ar.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:11:29 PM EDT
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Duhuhhuuh Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp!
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Only a fool would take an ak over an ar Duhuhhuuh Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp!
The availability of ammo can easily invalidate your position. Because 7.62x39 was sooooo available after Sandy hook right? |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:12:14 PM EDT
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Duhuhhuuh Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp!
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Only a fool would take an ak over an ar Duhuhhuuh Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp!
The availability of ammo can easily invalidate your position. Wat The AK is mostly dependent on imported ammo, that you can't even reload. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:13:25 PM EDT
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Hand AR's to most any 3rd world shithole, come back years later. See how many still work ;) The US is a 3rd world shithole? Im not a commie peasant, i know how to properly maintain my firearm The US military seems to be just fine with the ar |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:14:15 PM EDT
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I like both but could you drag an AR behind a truck for a mile on a rocky dirt road and still have it work?
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:14:29 PM EDT
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SHTF situation?
Im taking my 7.62 AK w Aimpoint T-1 |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:14:50 PM EDT
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Wat The AK is mostly dependent on imported ammo, that you can't even reload. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only a fool would take an ak over an ar Duhuhhuuh Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp!
The availability of ammo can easily invalidate your position. Wat The AK is mostly dependent on imported ammo, that you can't even reload. If the ammo is so cheap and available that you can stockpile enough to completely shoot out the rifling... |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:15:33 PM EDT
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I like both but could you drag an AR behind a truck for a mile on a rocky dirt road and still have it work? Because that happens all the time, right? |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:15:48 PM EDT
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Only accurate rifles are interesting. Not a factor given the rifles involved. The Arsenal is going to be just as accurate as a non free floating M4gery shooting m855. In fact if the AK has an ACOG and a good load like the Hornady SST its probably going to outshoot the AR unless someone familar with high power competition is shooting the AR. Combat accuracy is equal for the two. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:15:57 PM EDT
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I like the idea of an AK more, but it less interesting to tinker with.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:16:08 PM EDT
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The US is a 3rd world shithole? Im not a commie peasant, i know how to properly maintain my firearm The US military seems to be just fine with the ar Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hand AR's to most any 3rd world shithole, come back years later. See how many still work ;) The US is a 3rd world shithole? Im not a commie peasant, i know how to properly maintain my firearm The US military seems to be just fine with the ar Didn't say it was, but could be turned into one real quick. My point is if society falls apart, the AK is my choice 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:16:52 PM EDT
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If the ammo is so cheap and available that you can stockpile enough to completely shoot out the rifling... Same could be said for 5.56 / .223 most of the time. Plus can be reloaded (if you bought domestic brass) and is usually produced here. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:18:13 PM EDT
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1000 rounds of wolf 5.56 and 7.62 are pretty much the same price, around 320 bucks
Brass 5.56 is much cheaper than brass 7.62 |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:18:33 PM EDT
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It's worth noting, when considering the legendary reliability of AKs, that legends are often NOT based in reality.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:18:36 PM EDT
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There is no scenario where an AK is a better choice. None. Ever. EVER. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only a fool would take an ak over an ar Only a fool would make a predetermined conclusion before they know what scenario and what environment would present itself There is no scenario where an AK is a better choice. None. Ever. EVER. You must be tier 1 bro. More tier-1 than Seals using AK's How do I get a hold of you sir? I gotta ask you some AR tier 1 questions... Do I just dial "0" to get an operator? |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:18:44 PM EDT
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If you shoot 2-gun or 3-gun type competitions, AKs can hang for about 100 yards. After that it is all ARs and AR-like weapons.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:19:49 PM EDT
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Brass 5.56 is much cheaper than brass 7.62 Not to mention it won't run worth a fuck in a lot of AKs... case heads rip off during extraction a LOT. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:20:02 PM EDT
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Because that happens all the time, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like both but could you drag an AR behind a truck for a mile on a rocky dirt road and still have it work? Because that happens all the time, right? No but it's nice to know how much abuse something can withstand. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:20:34 PM EDT
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Nope, Nope, Nope
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:21:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:21:29 PM EDT
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No but it's nice to know how much abuse something can withstand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like both but could you drag an AR behind a truck for a mile on a rocky dirt road and still have it work? Because that happens all the time, right? No but it's nice to know how much abuse something can withstand. Well in that case, go to YouTube and look up Daniel Defense' DDM4 torture test. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:21:36 PM EDT
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I'm about to have sbr versions of both. With optics, its going to be a tough call. I have a Draco I SBR'd, and a 10.25" AR. Draco is more fun to shoot. I choose AR only due to safety and magazine release. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Easy. AK if it's an Arsenal. Worth more! AR market is at an all time low in value while AKs are rising.  |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:22:37 PM EDT
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AKM
I prefer triangle sidefolder in 7.62, but I'd be just fine with 5.45. All my ARs are retro but could get the job done, I just feel more comfortable with the AKM. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:23:19 PM EDT
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You must be tier 1 bro. More tier-1 than Seals using AK's How do I get a hold of you sir? I gotta ask you some AR tier 1 questions... Do I just dial "0" to get an operator? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only a fool would take an ak over an ar Only a fool would make a predetermined conclusion before they know what scenario and what environment would present itself There is no scenario where an AK is a better choice. None. Ever. EVER. You must be tier 1 bro. More tier-1 than Seals using AK's How do I get a hold of you sir? I gotta ask you some AR tier 1 questions... Do I just dial "0" to get an operator? 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:23:21 PM EDT
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If you shoot 2-gun or 3-gun type competitions, AKs can hang for about 100 yards. After that it is all ARs and AR-like weapons. If you were to stick with the crude, shitty AK irons, I guess. I will give some credit, most AKs are more accurate than they're given credit for. Especially an AK 74 or AK in 5.56. It just needs some decent optics and a decent shooter behind the trigger. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:25:20 PM EDT
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I will give some credit, most AKs are more accurate than they're given credit for. Especially an AK 74 or AK in 5.56. It just needs some decent optics and a decent shooter behind the trigger. Your optic mounting options are severely limited with the AK though, and what "works" still sucks. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:28:47 PM EDT
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Your optic mounting options are severely limited with the AK though, and what "works" still sucks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will give some credit, most AKs are more accurate than they're given credit for. Especially an AK 74 or AK in 5.56. It just needs some decent optics and a decent shooter behind the trigger. Your optic mounting options are severely limited with the AK though, and what "works" still sucks. True, and it will probably never be as good as the M1913 rail directly forged into the upper of an AR. There are some options, though. I'll be trying this with a Hi Lux CMR to squeeze a bit more accuracy out of my 104: http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=433 |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:29:38 PM EDT
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Bullpup AKs, or go home. Clearly, the superior rifle choice of the prepared citizen, militia member, and modern military:
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:33:01 PM EDT
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Depends on whether or not the AR barrel is CHF. lol |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:37:09 PM EDT
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I enjoyed shooting my AK-74 more than my AR-15.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:38:38 PM EDT
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I tried it. Didn't care for the ergonomics, and they aren't as easy to accessorize as an AR. Plus, I couldn't shoot mine with irons worth a shit.
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