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Posted: 3/1/2015 8:42:11 PM EDT
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The car.
I wonder if it's a relative of the bike vs van video where dumbshit thinks a directional gives you right of way. |
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TL;DR Semi's are never at fault because they are the only ones professional enough to be drivers.
So logically any accident is the fault of commoners in passenger vehicles. (Same with motorcycles, it's ALWAYS the "Cagers" fault) |
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Car gets a citation for unsafe lane change...and probably a new car.
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Trucker knew EXACTLY what he was doing. It even looks like he sped up a bit. Cars majority at fault but not 100%.
Trucker was parked in the left lane, -10 points in my book. |
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Trucker knew EXACTLY what he was doing. It even looks like he sped up a bit. Cars majority at fault but not 100%. Trucker was parked in the left lane, -10 points in my book. View Quote You don't see how long he was in the left lane... and he was traveling faster than the truck in the right lane so I don't see any fault there. The driver of the car probably got a ticket and a basic physics lesson out of it. |
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Well, the car shouldn't have tried that, and the trucker was kind of a douche for not slowing a little. He was speeding up to close the gap so the car couldn't get over. Plus that was not a safe following distance for that truck at that speed.
As a truck driver myself, I hate cars that try to pass on the right as I'm passing a slower truck, I've had the same thing happen numerous times as the video minus the crash. Our trucks are faster then about 90% of the trucks out there, so I'm always passing slower trucks. It may not be a fast pass, usually 5-10mph faster then the truck in the slow lane, but it only takes a few to get around and back in the driving lane. I will turn my signal on way ahead of time and get over when i have a decent gap, or a car signals that he is going to slow and let me over for the pass. That car was really lucky to be in one piece. If that video had come from one of our trucks the driver would be immediately fired for following to close, no matter it was the cars fault. |
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Looks to me like the car driver should have been paying attention.
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She will get the ticket for improper lane change, it won't make a difference, his insurance will settle out of court, and she'll get a new car.
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Cars couldn't see around truck and they passed on the right assuming he was the hold up. Truck was passing but keeping a safe distance from the cars in front.
Car knew it was in the wrong and tried to push in, paid the price. If that car made it, there was probably another behind it who was going to also push in. The truck saw this and tried to close the gap to stop it. The truck was not 100% innocent but the car was 100% wrong. |
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TL;DR Semi's are never at fault because they are the only ones professional enough to be drivers. So logically any accident is the fault of commoners in passenger vehicles. (Same with motorcycles, it's ALWAYS the "Cagers" fault) View Quote Lame ass trolling on your part. The truck on the left was actually closing in and passing the heavier loaded red truck, the car tried to pit maneuver the semi. Guess who won? You can use force people out of your lane with your indicators, no matter how important you think you are |
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Car is technically at fault for the accident.
Trucker absolutely did that deliberately - he sped up onto the left shoulder to try to run the car back into the right lane (&into the other truck). Based on the video, the trucker should also be ticketed for failure to yield, obstructing the passing lane, reckless driving, and/or whatever other local traffic laws apply. Maybe even assault since he did it on purpose. |
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Car driver was a dick; truck driver intentionally turned a dick move into a collision.
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Both at fault but the car is more at fault than the semi by a long shot.
Also the car driver loses points for being a fucking retard. You don't pick a fight with a semi when you're in a car. |
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Cars couldn't see around truck and they passed on the right assuming he was the hold up. Truck was passing but keeping a safe distance from the cars in front. Car knew it was in the wrong and tried to push in, paid the price. If that car made it, there was probably another behind it who was going to also push in. The truck saw this and tried to close the gap to stop it. The truck was not 100% innocent but the car was 100% wrong. View Quote Still won't matter, the lawyer will go to court for the car. The look at all the money this company makes every year, they have tons of insurance, and they won't miss a few thousand dollars but this mother of ( insert child number) wasn't able to work. Jury will award max. Happens daily, even with better, clear proof of responsibility. My brother had a BMW drive into the side of his trailer while he was sitting in a left turn lane, not moving, waiting to turn into the business he was delivering at. The jury decided he was at fault and awarded to the BMW driver. |
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Quoted: Lame ass trolling on your part. The truck on the left was actually closing in and passing the heavier loaded red truck, the car tried to pit maneuver the semi. Guess who won? You can use force people out of your lane with your indicators, no matter how important you think you are View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: TL;DR Semi's are never at fault because they are the only ones professional enough to be drivers. So logically any accident is the fault of commoners in passenger vehicles. (Same with motorcycles, it's ALWAYS the "Cagers" fault) Lame ass trolling on your part. The truck on the left was actually closing in and passing the heavier loaded red truck, the car tried to pit maneuver the semi. Guess who won? You can use force people out of your lane with your indicators, no matter how important you think you are |
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No Shit, car driver is damn lucky he didn't get ground into hamburger. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The car is absolutely at fault. Why is this even a question? No Shit, car driver is damn lucky he didn't get ground into hamburger. Car driver is stupid, semi driver is a stupid piece of shit. They both won something that day. |
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Car is technically at fault for the accident. Trucker absolutely did that deliberately - he sped up onto the left shoulder to try to run the car back into the right lane (&into the other truck). Based on the video, the trucker should also be ticketed for failure to yield, obstructing the passing lane, reckless driving, and/or whatever other local traffic laws apply. Maybe even assault since he did it on purpose. View Quote Orly? Even though he wasn't the one holding up traffic, he was simply following the pickup in front of him at a safe distance. Interesting take on it. Can you get a ticket for failure to yield when the person they expect you to yield to has no right of way? That car driver had no right to the left lane. edit: I missed that last part in blue on my first read through. Assault? |
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Orly? Even though he wasn't the one holding up traffic, he was simply following the pickup in front of him at a safe distance. Interesting take on it. Can you get a ticket for failure to yield when the person they expect you to yield to has no right of way? That car driver had no right to the left lane. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Car is technically at fault for the accident. Trucker absolutely did that deliberately - he sped up onto the left shoulder to try to run the car back into the right lane (&into the other truck). Based on the video, the trucker should also be ticketed for failure to yield, obstructing the passing lane, reckless driving, and/or whatever other local traffic laws apply. Maybe even assault since he did it on purpose. Orly? Even though he wasn't the one holding up traffic, he was simply following the pickup in front of him at a safe distance. Interesting take on it. Can you get a ticket for failure to yield when the person they expect you to yield to has no right of way? That car driver had no right to the left lane. Truck driver must have touched him at some point in his life. |
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The car is an idiot and could have stopped the accident by not trying the stupid lane change but the truck could have slowed down and stopped the accident also. Both were being jerks at just the rite time.
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Trucker knew EXACTLY what he was doing. It even looks like he sped up a bit. Cars majority at fault but not 100%. Trucker was parked in the left lane, -10 points in my book. View Quote you can tell that the truck in the left lane was driving faster than the truck in the right lane. The reason he was in the lane so long was because with the amount of traffic he was in the chances of getting blocked in behind the slower right lane truck would be pretty high. Plus when you have an additional 50' behind the cab you need to plan lane changes in advance. If he sped up a bit it was probably to try and get out of the cars blind spot so they would see him before it was too late. car was totally at fault. ETA. to the guys that said the truck should've slowed down and let the car in front of him, do you know what would've happened then? The truck would've lost all the momentum he had and by the looks of the traffic he would have gotten boxed in the left lane, further pissing off the people that can't wait and they would've starting doing more dangerous stuff to try and get around him. All the car would've had to do was wait an additional minute or two and the truck would've been past the other one . I think all drivers should be required to ride in a truck for a couple of hours just to see what they are and are not capable of. |
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There wasn't enough space between the truck and the vehicle in front of it for that car to merge safely as is. To boot, the car was passing on the left. In addition, they didn't have enough room to merge safely.
Driver was an idiot and got what was coming to them. |
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This. Just because someone doesn't let you in and you want to be somewhere doesn't give you the right to be there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The car is absolutely at fault. Why is this even a question? This. Just because someone doesn't let you in and you want to be somewhere doesn't give you the right to be there. It is nice to see people that drive like absolute cunts get their day ruined. The other day I saw someone try and pass a guy via the emergency lane and have some rather large chunks of debris absolutely tear the underside of his car up. |
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Car is technically at fault for the accident. Trucker absolutely did that deliberately - he sped up onto the left shoulder to try to run the car back into the right lane (&into the other truck). Based on the video, the trucker should also be ticketed for failure to yield, obstructing the passing lane, reckless driving, and/or whatever other local traffic laws apply. Maybe even assault since he did it on purpose. View Quote This. |
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Orly? Even though he wasn't the one holding up traffic, he was simply following the pickup in front of him at a safe distance. Interesting take on it. Can you get a ticket for failure to yield when the person they expect you to yield to has no right of way? That car driver had no right to the left lane. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Car is technically at fault for the accident. Trucker absolutely did that deliberately - he sped up onto the left shoulder to try to run the car back into the right lane (&into the other truck). Based on the video, the trucker should also be ticketed for failure to yield, obstructing the passing lane, reckless driving, and/or whatever other local traffic laws apply. Maybe even assault since he did it on purpose. Orly? Even though he wasn't the one holding up traffic, he was simply following the pickup in front of him at a safe distance. Interesting take on it. Can you get a ticket for failure to yield when the person they expect you to yield to has no right of way? That car driver had no right to the left lane. When multiple cars pass you on the right (like in the video) then you are the problem. You don't have "slower traffic keep right" in your state? Or "the left lane is for passing & emergency vehicles only"? |
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When multiple cars pass you on the right (like in the video) then you are the problem. You don't have "slower traffic keep right" in your state? Or "the left lane is for passing & emergency vehicles only"? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Car is technically at fault for the accident. Trucker absolutely did that deliberately - he sped up onto the left shoulder to try to run the car back into the right lane (&into the other truck). Based on the video, the trucker should also be ticketed for failure to yield, obstructing the passing lane, reckless driving, and/or whatever other local traffic laws apply. Maybe even assault since he did it on purpose. Orly? Even though he wasn't the one holding up traffic, he was simply following the pickup in front of him at a safe distance. Interesting take on it. Can you get a ticket for failure to yield when the person they expect you to yield to has no right of way? That car driver had no right to the left lane. When multiple cars pass you on the right (like in the video) then you are the problem. You don't have "slower traffic keep right" in your state? Or "the left lane is for passing & emergency vehicles only"? So in order to pass a car while in the left lane behind other cars in the left lane also passing that car you only have a right to be there if you are tailgating the car in front of you so closely that no one has room to squeeze in. Got it, you make all kinds of sense. edit: You do realize the truck would not qualify as 'slower traffic' in this case, don't you? The slower traffic would have been the car at the very front of that line of cars in the left lane. The semi had every right to be where he was. You're also no supposed to pass on the right but i guess we'll just ignore that. |
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Car is technically at fault for the accident. Trucker absolutely did that deliberately - he sped up onto the left shoulder to try to run the car back into the right lane (&into the other truck). Based on the video, the trucker should also be ticketed for failure to yield, obstructing the passing lane, reckless driving, and/or whatever other local traffic laws apply. Maybe even assault since he did it on purpose. This. He should be charged with assault with a deadly weapon. I'd guess his IQ is in the 70s and his BAC is at least 0.08. |
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When multiple cars pass you on the right (like in the video) then you are the problem. You don't have "slower traffic keep right" in your state? Or "the left lane is for passing & emergency vehicles only"? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Car is technically at fault for the accident. Trucker absolutely did that deliberately - he sped up onto the left shoulder to try to run the car back into the right lane (&into the other truck). Based on the video, the trucker should also be ticketed for failure to yield, obstructing the passing lane, reckless driving, and/or whatever other local traffic laws apply. Maybe even assault since he did it on purpose. Orly? Even though he wasn't the one holding up traffic, he was simply following the pickup in front of him at a safe distance. Interesting take on it. Can you get a ticket for failure to yield when the person they expect you to yield to has no right of way? That car driver had no right to the left lane. When multiple cars pass you on the right (like in the video) then you are the problem. You don't have "slower traffic keep right" in your state? Or "the left lane is for passing & emergency vehicles only"? I had at least given that the ARWs were consistent in their position. Now I see they are just self-centered hypocrites. I am disappointed in them. |
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did it sound like the truck driver was on the phone
after the accident sounded like he said bye to someone he was talking too now that could effect his reaction times if he is busy talking on the phone |
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When multiple cars pass you on the right (like in the video) then you are the problem. You don't have "slower traffic keep right" in your state? Or "the left lane is for passing & emergency vehicles only"? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Car is technically at fault for the accident. Trucker absolutely did that deliberately - he sped up onto the left shoulder to try to run the car back into the right lane (&into the other truck). Based on the video, the trucker should also be ticketed for failure to yield, obstructing the passing lane, reckless driving, and/or whatever other local traffic laws apply. Maybe even assault since he did it on purpose. Orly? Even though he wasn't the one holding up traffic, he was simply following the pickup in front of him at a safe distance. Interesting take on it. Can you get a ticket for failure to yield when the person they expect you to yield to has no right of way? That car driver had no right to the left lane. When multiple cars pass you on the right (like in the video) then you are the problem. You don't have "slower traffic keep right" in your state? Or "the left lane is for passing & emergency vehicles only"? you've never rode in a truck have you? You can't dart back and forth between lanes like cars do. In heavy traffic you need to plan you lane changes well in advance and sometimes you have to be in the left lane longer. What about the long line of cars that were in front of the truck, all of them stayed in the left lane just as long as the truck. they should be ticketed also for blocking the left lane when they could've stayed in the right lane until they were right behind the slow truck. A little common courtesy goes a long way to making the roads safer, but in todays world that is getting rare. |
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Let's not kid ourselves.
All of us want to be that truck driver. I've driven buses before in heavy city/college traffic. If you constantly have a safe following distance, people will CONSTANTLY drive around you and cut you off. One time, I had a full bus (80 people, 30 standing) in a 35 mph speed limit area, bus was going 38. Cars normally go 40 here. I saw a car speed out of the right lane 3 cars back (I was in the right lane) and they proceeded to FLOOR it to get in front of me and cut me off (I had a 1 second following distance) and immediately slammed on their brakes and make a right turn into a hotel. It put 3 of my passengers into the windshield to avoid them. The car is at fault here. That was an attempt to cut that truck driver off. I don't fault the truck driver one bit. |
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I'm a truck driver. I have a over a million safe miles with no tickets and no accidents. My last incident was a ticket in 1994 in my personal vehicle. The car was an idiot and started it- from my experience that was to be expected. I knew exactly what the car was going to do. The truck driver also knew exactly what was happening and didn't back off- and finished it. Let's say this happened in Texas. Texas is a modified comparative fault state and the "last clear chance" to avoid the accident was the truck driver's. So in the end in the inevitable lawsuit the fault would be divided something like 75/25 car/truck. The car driver still gets paid. If I was that truck driver that dash cam would fucking disappear and that video would never be seen. -p. |
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Car is technically at fault for the accident. Trucker absolutely did that deliberately - he sped up onto the left shoulder to try to run the car back into the right lane (&into the other truck). Based on the video, the trucker should also be ticketed for failure to yield, obstructing the passing lane, reckless driving, and/or whatever other local traffic laws apply. Maybe even assault since he did it on purpose. View Quote failure to yield? on the interstate? not sure if serious god, please let this be one of those times when my meter was off. |
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did it sound like the truck driver was on the phone after the accident sounded like he said bye to someone he was talking too now that could effect his reaction times if he is busy talking on the phone View Quote he was on the phone. But how would it slow his reaction time when the other car cut him off. That's like someone pulling out in front of you causing you to hit them and then saying they should've had their lights on so you could see them(actually had someone pull this to a guy I know. he told her that "I had no problem seeing you pull out in front of me, that's why I was able to avoid the accident".) |
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When multiple cars pass you on the right (like in the video) then you are the problem. You don't have "slower traffic keep right" in your state? Or "the left lane is for passing & emergency vehicles only"? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Car is technically at fault for the accident. Trucker absolutely did that deliberately - he sped up onto the left shoulder to try to run the car back into the right lane (&into the other truck). Based on the video, the trucker should also be ticketed for failure to yield, obstructing the passing lane, reckless driving, and/or whatever other local traffic laws apply. Maybe even assault since he did it on purpose. Orly? Even though he wasn't the one holding up traffic, he was simply following the pickup in front of him at a safe distance. Interesting take on it. Can you get a ticket for failure to yield when the person they expect you to yield to has no right of way? That car driver had no right to the left lane. When multiple cars pass you on the right (like in the video) then you are the problem. You don't have "slower traffic keep right" in your state? Or "the left lane is for passing & emergency vehicles only"? Did you watch the same video I did? I watched it several times to be sure I'm not missing anything. The trucker was going as fast as the traffic in front of him. I can't speak to whether he was intentionally leaving room in front of himself or not but the VW driver tried to force the car into the left lane in a situation where it was too late to reasonably do so. |
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you can tell that the truck in the left lane was driving faster than the truck in the right lane. The reason he was in the lane so long was because with the amount of traffic he was in the chances of getting blocked in behind the slower right lane truck would be pretty high. Plus when you have an additional 50' behind the cab you need to plan lane changes in advance. If he sped up a bit it was probably to try and get out of the cars blind spot so they would see him before it was too late. car was totally at fault. ETA. to the guys that said the truck should've slowed down and let the car in front of him, do you know what would've happened then? The truck would've lost all the momentum he had and by the looks of the traffic he would have gotten boxed in the left lane, further pissing off the people that can't wait and they would've starting doing more dangerous stuff to try and get around him. All the car would've had to do was wait an additional minute or two and the truck would've been past the other one . I think all drivers should be required to ride in a truck for a couple of hours just to see what they are and are not capable of. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Trucker knew EXACTLY what he was doing. It even looks like he sped up a bit. Cars majority at fault but not 100%. Trucker was parked in the left lane, -10 points in my book. you can tell that the truck in the left lane was driving faster than the truck in the right lane. The reason he was in the lane so long was because with the amount of traffic he was in the chances of getting blocked in behind the slower right lane truck would be pretty high. Plus when you have an additional 50' behind the cab you need to plan lane changes in advance. If he sped up a bit it was probably to try and get out of the cars blind spot so they would see him before it was too late. car was totally at fault. ETA. to the guys that said the truck should've slowed down and let the car in front of him, do you know what would've happened then? The truck would've lost all the momentum he had and by the looks of the traffic he would have gotten boxed in the left lane, further pissing off the people that can't wait and they would've starting doing more dangerous stuff to try and get around him. All the car would've had to do was wait an additional minute or two and the truck would've been past the other one . I think all drivers should be required to ride in a truck for a couple of hours just to see what they are and are not capable of. I know, it's not like some of us have ever had Class A CDL's with multiple add on's ....................... If you are a trucker and everyone is passing you on the left, you are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. That said, the car was the major contributor to that T/A but the truck driver has some fault also. |
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The car came over on the the truck.
The truck didn't change speed at all. The other cars in his lane may have slowed down. 100% cars fault. |
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Situations like this is exactly why I just installed a Blackvue dash cam (front and rear). Call it, a body cam for the vehicle.
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Car is at fault for initiating the possibility accident by attempting a unsafe lane change. Just get behind the truck and pass the red truck, no reason to be in such a hurry.
Truck driver did not defensively drive, he aggressively drove. At the point he knew that the car was committed to changing the lanes, he should have backed off and slowed down. Instead, he maintained speed and started to veer to the left, preventing a collision but still trying to forcing the car back into the other lane. But at that point, the car couldn't have even gone back into the other lane, the only option was forward, but he kept accelerating until he contacted the car. |
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