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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:11:45 AM EDT
[#1]
No contest.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:11:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:12:17 AM EDT
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Quoted: For discussions sake, The Marine is 5'10" and 180# Poll coming |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:12:34 AM EDT
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unless said boot has some previous training, MCMAP will get his ass kicked quick.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:15:54 AM EDT
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How bout. 19 yo carpenter ?
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:16:32 AM EDT
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When I went through my tan belt MCMAP course I think all I was showed was throwing a punch, maybe a shin kick, some break falls, and how to do a barrel roll from a jog.... There is a reason a lot of Marines call it MCCRAP.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:16:58 AM EDT
[#7]
Well, if it was a LCPL, Rhonda would lose AND be 6 months pregnant after a 2 minute fight.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:18:19 AM EDT
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Rousey, but it takes the mortician a week to get the smile off the Marine's face, so in a way, the Marine won too.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:18:21 AM EDT
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Well, if it was a LCPL, Rhonda would lose AND be 6 months pregnant after a 2 minute fight. Yes!!!! 
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:18:29 AM EDT
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Rousey. Boot camps are turning out professional MMA fighters, or boxers?
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:20:30 AM EDT
[#11]
Rhonda wins.
As our drill instructors told us, "When you're back home on your 10-day leave, don't walk into a bar and think you're tougher than everyone there. You know exactly enough about unarmed combat to get your a** kicked." |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:23:26 AM EDT
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Unless the Marine has some decent past MMA training.....he has no chance.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:27:32 AM EDT
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Standing- Marine....Ground- Rhonda Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For discussions sake, The Marine is 5'10" and 180# Poll coming
Are either on a treadmill? |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:35:31 AM EDT
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Well, if it was a LCPL, Rhonda would lose AND be 6 months pregnant after a 2 minute fight.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:35:42 AM EDT
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Rhonda wins. As our drill instructors told us, "When you're back home on your 10-day leave, don't walk into a bar and think you're tougher than everyone there. You know exactly enough about unarmed combat to get your a** kicked." haha, we got told a similar thing at Army Basic Training. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:39:16 AM EDT
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In the scenario, did the Marine already purchase a 2015 Mustang GT at 17% interest upon completion of boot camp?
Standing by to answer based on further info. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:42:44 AM EDT
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Well, if it was a LCPL, Rhonda would lose AND be 6 months pregnant after a 2 minute fight.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:46:43 AM EDT
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LOL Only chance he has is a wild punch |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:51:17 AM EDT
[#19]
This thread needs pics...
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:54:38 AM EDT
[#20]
Fucking stupid, some tan belt scrawny boot vs a professional fighter?
Marine's commercials aren't that good. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:56:06 AM EDT
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It wouldn't even be close. About 10 years ago I sparred (hard) with an army ranger several times a week. He had about 20-30lbs on me and was stronger than me in terms of your big three lifts. I dominated him every time we sparred. That being said he was a good guy and he was definitely tough. He could probably take a beating better than me but he just didn't have the tools to be as effective as me.
I was a bjj blue belt with some standup experience (muay thai, jkd). To be clear this was not grappling and this wasn't at a martial arts school. This was me and him with one of our mutual friends at a military base field house sparring with less rules than current mma just no eye gouging and no nut shots everything else went but there was a mutual understanding if one of us went dirty the other would go dirty. W never pulled hair or stuff like that out of respect not the rules. My point is Ronda would be much more skilled than I was. The marine would have a punchers chance Rhonda wins that fight 9 outta 10 times easily. The 10th time she gets ktfo. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:56:11 AM EDT
[#22]
Mousey would take it
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:56:45 AM EDT
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When I went through my tan belt MCMAP course I think all I was showed was throwing a punch, maybe a shin kick, some break falls, and how to do a barrel roll from a jog.... There is a reason a lot of Marines call it MCCRAP. It may as well have been rolling around in rubber chips for an hour at a time, same training value. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:57:12 AM EDT
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The Marine would beat her in about a minute. MMA folks train to play a game with rules, Marines train to kill people.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:57:23 AM EDT
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any 19 year old would be thinking about humping that poontang, and nothing else.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:57:38 AM EDT
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For discussions sake, The Marine is 5'10" and 180# Poll POLE coming |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 9:58:56 AM EDT
[#27]
what does being a Marine have to do with anything?
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:00:15 AM EDT
[#28]
If I remember correctly they are learning upto grey belt now, and if infantry they're green before they leave ITB.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:01:19 AM EDT
[#29]
Some of you have grave misperceptions of what USMC boot camp actually entails.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:02:11 AM EDT
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If I remember correctly they are learning upto grey belt now, and if infantry they're green before they leave ITB. MCMAP is for promotions, not for fighting. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:03:22 AM EDT
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Well, if it was a LCPL, Rhonda would lose AND be 6 months pregnant after a 2 minute fight. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:04:52 AM EDT
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She better not give him her back as she would get some surprises buttsexxes
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:05:30 AM EDT
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Some of you have grave misperceptions of what USMC boot camp actually entails. It's where Marines learn to kill people in 200 different ways without a weapon. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:08:24 AM EDT
[#34]
Your giving a lot of credit against someone that practices fighting every day of the week, all year long.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:09:41 AM EDT
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MCMAP is for promotions, not for fighting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If I remember correctly they are learning upto grey belt now, and if infantry they're green before they leave ITB. MCMAP is for promotions, not for fighting. It was a great idea, never fully implemented as Gen Jones intended. If done as it was planned MCMAP would have been combined in a CrossFit like training plan and it would be everyday PT; similar to how the ROK Marines do their PT |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:10:03 AM EDT
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The Marine would beat her in about a minute. MMA folks train to play a game with rules, Marines train to kill people. All my marine buddies would likely say otherwise. Maybe they are trained to kill with their weapons, but they are trained to survive in hand to hand combat. Not enough time to train your everyday recruit how to fight properly. I have zero mma training, but my buddy fresh out of training (marine 20 yrs old) was very angry when he couldn't submit me or do even get on top. Weight, strength, and a good sense of balance can carry you a long way. Marines are tough dudes no doubt, but way too many factors play into this equation to just say one would beat the other. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:13:10 AM EDT
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It was a great idea, never fully implemented as Gen Jones intended. If done as it was planned MCMAP would have been combined in a CrossFit like training plan and it would be everyday PT; similar to how the ROK Marines do their PT Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If I remember correctly they are learning upto grey belt now, and if infantry they're green before they leave ITB. MCMAP is for promotions, not for fighting. It was a great idea, never fully implemented as Gen Jones intended. If done as it was planned MCMAP would have been combined in a CrossFit like training plan and it would be everyday PT; similar to how the ROK Marines do their PT Put her up against a ROK Marine and make sure there is a body bag her size. They beat the living shit out of each other for fun.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:13:21 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
It was a great idea, never fully implemented as Gen Jones intended. If done as it was planned MCMAP would have been combined in a CrossFit like training plan and it would be everyday PT; similar to how the ROK Marines do their PT Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If I remember correctly they are learning upto grey belt now, and if infantry they're green before they leave ITB. MCMAP is for promotions, not for fighting. It was a great idea, never fully implemented as Gen Jones intended. If done as it was planned MCMAP would have been combined in a CrossFit like training plan and it would be everyday PT; similar to how the ROK Marines do their PT The idea was great, the implementation was just... awful. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:14:36 AM EDT
[#39]
I'm sad for the people in this thread who don't live in reality and think a few weeks of training somehow makes a person a better fighter against a person with 20 years experience.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:15:00 AM EDT
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Either way his thing goes, both sides lose.
Either the USMC becomes a laughingstock or the spectacle of a man beating a woman unconscious on television shocks the general public so much that they call for the abolishment of both MMA and the Marine Corps. 
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:15:43 AM EDT
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All my marine buddies would likely say otherwise. Maybe they are trained to kill with their weapons, but they are trained to survive in hand to hand combat. Not enough time to train your everyday recruit how to fight properly. I have zero mma training, but my buddy fresh out of training (marine 20 yrs old) was very angry when he couldn't submit me or do even get on top. Weight, strength, and a good sense of balance can carry you a long way. Marines are tough dudes no doubt, but way too many factors play into this equation to just say one would beat the other. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Marine would beat her in about a minute. MMA folks train to play a game with rules, Marines train to kill people. All my marine buddies would likely say otherwise. Maybe they are trained to kill with their weapons, but they are trained to survive in hand to hand combat. Not enough time to train your everyday recruit how to fight properly. I have zero mma training, but my buddy fresh out of training (marine 20 yrs old) was very angry when he couldn't submit me or do even get on top. Weight, strength, and a good sense of balance can carry you a long way. Marines are tough dudes no doubt, but way too many factors play into this equation to just say one would beat the other. It was meant to instill the following capability, per then-Cpl. Clifford Wooldridge's Navy citation "He overwhelmed the enemy fighter in hand-to-hand combat, killing him with several blows to the head with the enemy's own machine gun. " Hence why the all weapons, to include improvised, emphasis during MCMAP; the problem is we just don't have the 2-3 hours per day just to do the training. When you go to MACE the training is considerably better than you get in the fleet but than again they do hour after hour, day after day. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:17:06 AM EDT
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Well, if it was a LCPL, Rhonda would lose AND be 6 months pregnant after a 2 minute fight. LOL. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:18:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryHer legs would pop his head like a zit |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:18:36 AM EDT
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I think she would have him on the ground before he even thought it started.
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:19:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryHey what is that worthless burnout pothead doing in the background? |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:24:10 AM EDT
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All my marine buddies would likely say otherwise. Maybe they are trained to kill with their weapons, but they are trained to survive in hand to hand combat. Not enough time to train your everyday recruit how to fight properly. I have zero mma training, but my buddy fresh out of training (marine 20 yrs old) was very angry when he couldn't submit me or do even get on top. Weight, strength, and a good sense of balance can carry you a long way. Marines are tough dudes no doubt, but way too many factors play into this equation to just say one would beat the other. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Marine would beat her in about a minute. MMA folks train to play a game with rules, Marines train to kill people. All my marine buddies would likely say otherwise. Maybe they are trained to kill with their weapons, but they are trained to survive in hand to hand combat. Not enough time to train your everyday recruit how to fight properly. I have zero mma training, but my buddy fresh out of training (marine 20 yrs old) was very angry when he couldn't submit me or do even get on top. Weight, strength, and a good sense of balance can carry you a long way. Marines are tough dudes no doubt, but way too many factors play into this equation to just say one would beat the other. That is true. But these fighters are trained to not fight to kill. They are trained to put on a show and have a lasting professional career. They are trained to aviod or not use methods of efficiently taking down and killing each other. That is not what MMA is about. It is a sport. They are great atheletes and if you fight by their rules they would win. But that is also a weakness. They are trained to fight under strict rules that aviod killing or even really hurting each other badly. the person who breaks the first arm or gouges an eye or something would most likely win. that could well be the MMA person, but they are not trained to be brutal. the marine would go in accepting he might lose the use of an arm or eye. A MMA fighter would not. They are not trained for that. So even should the marine take the first bad wound, he would be mentally more apt to cope quickly and think strategically. I always put my money on the most brutal person in a real fight. but this is like a marine in kill mode Verses a andriod version of Miss.Rousey. I have no doubt that most human beings marine or no would happy with a crotch to face take down. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:28:24 AM EDT
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I'm sad for the people in this thread who don't live in reality and think a few weeks of training somehow makes a person a better fighter against a person with 20 years experience. She is 28. I don't think she has 20 years of fighting experience. She grew up in my town, her dad had a mortal disease and killed himself a couple miles from my house. Her mother started training her in Judo at around 11 since there is not much around here for martial arts. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:30:31 AM EDT
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Unless the Marine has some decent past MMA training.....he has no chance. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:32:05 AM EDT
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She is 28. I don't think she has 20 years of fighting experience. She grew up in my town, her dad had a mortal disease and killed himself a couple miles from my house. Her mother started training her in Judo at around 11 since there is not much around here for martial arts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sad for the people in this thread who don't live in reality and think a few weeks of training somehow makes a person a better fighter against a person with 20 years experience. She is 28. I don't think she has 20 years of fighting experience. She grew up in my town, her dad had a mortal disease and killed himself a couple miles from my house. Her mother started training her in Judo at around 11 since there is not much around here for martial arts. Everybody is sorry. She only has 17 years against some kids couple weeks. |
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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:33:18 AM EDT
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That is true. But these fighters are trained to not fight to kill. They are trained to put on a show and have a lasting professional career. They are trained to aviod or not use methods of efficiently taking down and killing each other. That is not what MMA is about. It is a sport. They are great atheletes and if you fight by their rules they would win. But that is also a weakness. They are trained to fight under strict rules that aviod killing or even really hurting each other badly. the person who breaks the first arm or gouges an eye or something would most likely win. that could well be the MMA person, but they are not trained to be brutal. the marine would go in accepting he might lose the use of an arm or eye. A MMA fighter would not. They are not trained for that. So even should the marine take the first bad wound, he would be mentally more apt to cope quickly and think strategically. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Marine would beat her in about a minute. MMA folks train to play a game with rules, Marines train to kill people. All my marine buddies would likely say otherwise. Maybe they are trained to kill with their weapons, but they are trained to survive in hand to hand combat. Not enough time to train your everyday recruit how to fight properly. I have zero mma training, but my buddy fresh out of training (marine 20 yrs old) was very angry when he couldn't submit me or do even get on top. Weight, strength, and a good sense of balance can carry you a long way. Marines are tough dudes no doubt, but way too many factors play into this equation to just say one would beat the other. That is true. But these fighters are trained to not fight to kill. They are trained to put on a show and have a lasting professional career. They are trained to aviod or not use methods of efficiently taking down and killing each other. That is not what MMA is about. It is a sport. They are great atheletes and if you fight by their rules they would win. But that is also a weakness. They are trained to fight under strict rules that aviod killing or even really hurting each other badly. the person who breaks the first arm or gouges an eye or something would most likely win. that could well be the MMA person, but they are not trained to be brutal. the marine would go in accepting he might lose the use of an arm or eye. A MMA fighter would not. They are not trained for that. So even should the marine take the first bad wound, he would be mentally more apt to cope quickly and think strategically. So after she broke his arm the Marine would go on to win |
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