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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:36:05 AM EDT
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. Odd, I was under the impression that people like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson manufactured liquor and sold it to the public without a license. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:36:36 AM EDT
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Thank God they caught him before any innocent people ended up drunk. Meanwhile, down the road at frat row at UVA ... |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:37:07 AM EDT
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That's the big crime gun arsenal?
 I think the only one of those guns designed in the last 60 years is the Hi-Point.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:37:07 AM EDT
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That's a pretty statist ass thing to say. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. That's a pretty statist ass thing to say. There's a ton of them here! Sad really 
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:37:49 AM EDT
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funny to see all this support for "that thar good ol' boy makin' shine" but if it's mj the tone changes to "baaa baaa evil potheads" good ol' boy probably smokes mj too lol I was surprised they didn't find a grow field also. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:38:07 AM EDT
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Prohibition is still on? It is in some states, especially in the South. Here in Virginia, we created an agency (ABC) that has an exclusive right to sell liquor. They don't like competition, and they have "special agents" who enforce these rules. They're like The Untouchables, except they're all idiots with questionable judgment and ethics. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:38:16 AM EDT
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With all those dangerous guns a fella like that probably has armor piercing ammo in his stash.....  I see 26 firearms that WILL SHOOT THROUGH A BULLETPROOF VEST! |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:38:23 AM EDT
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If they ever REALLY came after moonshine, it would be rather interesting here in my area.
That song "Copperhead Road" is about our hometown and the truth is stranger than fiction. It is MUCH more prevalent than most would believe. Most LE and folks around here could care less about moonshine; meth on the other hand is a big problem. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:42:54 AM EDT
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If they ever REALLY came after moonshine, it would be rather interesting here in my area. That song "Copperhead Road" is about our hometown and the truth is stranger than fiction. It is MUCH more prevalent than most would believe. Most LE and folks around here could care less about moonshine; meth on the other hand is a big problem. It's pretty much the same in rural Virginia. There's probably dozens of identical stills run by some guy with a bunch of Fudd guns, within a 10 miles radius of the one that these Very Special Agents from VA ABC busted. Yawn. I feel so much safer. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:44:58 AM EDT
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Odd, I was under the impression that people like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson manufactured liquor and sold it to the public without a license. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. Odd, I was under the impression that people like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson manufactured liquor and sold it to the public without a license. lol President George Washington raised an army against American citizens that refused to pay taxes on liquor. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:47:57 AM EDT
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It would be nice if Virginia would lift the prohibition on distilling for personal consumption.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:48:59 AM EDT
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It would be nice if Virginia would lift the prohibition on distilling for personal consumption. There's still the federal prohibition on distilling without a license. Perhaps you've noticed the letter "A" in BATFE. 
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:50:24 AM EDT
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It would be nice if Virginia The Federal Government would lift the prohibition on distilling for personal consumption. FIFY
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:51:26 AM EDT
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lol President George Washington raised an army against American citizens that refused to pay taxes on liquor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. Odd, I was under the impression that people like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson manufactured liquor and sold it to the public without a license. lol President George Washington raised an army against American citizens that refused to pay taxes on liquor. Shhhh. Don't let the history ruin his romanticized version. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:53:54 AM EDT
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It would be nice if Virginia would lift the prohibition on distilling for personal consumption. It would be nice if Virginia just got rid of its anachronistic, puritanical ABC regs and agency entirely. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:56:12 AM EDT
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I think it's bull shit that this guys in jail for distilling. I fully support people who break tax laws like this. Because he's not in trouble for distilling. He's in trouble for not paying to play.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:57:22 AM EDT
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There shouldn't be licensing and regulations around distilling, let the free market handle it. When people start going blind, others will know not to purchase from distiller X and the market will adjust, eventually. Only people to go blind from moonshine were purposely poisoned by our Government to scare people away from buying it. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:57:57 AM EDT
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Just'a good old boys, never meanin' no harm.... beats all I ever saw, they had trouble with the law since the day they were born 
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:58:35 AM EDT
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lol President George Washington raised an army against American citizens that refused to pay taxes on liquor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. Odd, I was under the impression that people like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson manufactured liquor and sold it to the public without a license. lol President George Washington raised an army against American citizens that refused to pay taxes on liquor. If distillation wasn't prohibited do you think these fellas would have gone ahead and paid their income taxes on the profit they made? |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:00:15 PM EDT
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There's still the federal prohibition on distilling without a license. Perhaps you've noticed the letter "A" in BATFE. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would be nice if Virginia would lift the prohibition on distilling for personal consumption. There's still the federal prohibition on distilling without a license. Perhaps you've noticed the letter "A" in BATFE. But if the state says it's ok, can't we just ignore federal laws. That's how it works with other things. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:01:53 PM EDT
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At the risk of oversimplifying ... he's fooked.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:02:37 PM EDT
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But if the state says it's ok, can't we just ignore federal laws. That's how it works with other things. Only things that Praetor Obama decides to ignore, because there are pictures of him using it. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:02:39 PM EDT
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. 
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:02:46 PM EDT
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There's a ton of them here! Sad really Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. That's a pretty statist ass thing to say. There's a ton of them here! Sad really Yep,and that's why we are where we are in this country,and where we are going. In 5 or 10 years,it will be A "good guy" doesn't just give someone a high cap mag,or "assault weapon",or box of M855,or plenty of other things..........
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:03:50 PM EDT
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The very idea of a non-violent felony is completely bizarre to me. So probation for child porn? Noted. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:04:02 PM EDT
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I was surprised they didn't find a grow field also. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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funny to see all this support for "that thar good ol' boy makin' shine" but if it's mj the tone changes to "baaa baaa evil potheads" good ol' boy probably smokes mj too lol I was surprised they didn't find a grow field also. Rumor was he had a cow and may have been selling raw milk as well. Raw.Milk. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:05:07 PM EDT
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. lol at Michigan. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:05:13 PM EDT
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Odd, I was under the impression that people like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson manufactured liquor and sold it to the public without a license. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. Odd, I was under the impression that people like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson manufactured liquor and sold it to the public without a license. Im pretty certain that "the good guy" is no George Washington. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:10:19 PM EDT
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I think it's bull shit that this guys in jail for distilling. I fully support people who break tax laws like this. Because he's not in trouble for distilling. He's in trouble for not paying to play. Then he should pay his taxes just like every other legit business does. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:10:30 PM EDT
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. You hate freedom.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:11:23 PM EDT
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Then he should pay his taxes just like every other legit business does. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think it's bull shit that this guys in jail for distilling. I fully support people who break tax laws like this. Because he's not in trouble for distilling. He's in trouble for not paying to play. Then he should pay his taxes just like every other legit business does. I'd rather the other legit businesses not have to pay for the privilege of operating. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:12:47 PM EDT
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I'm surprised at the guys here that at any other time would gladly sit and drink some good blackberry shine and would never agree to paying a tax for the privilege. But in this thread they act as though they work for Va ABC.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:15:14 PM EDT
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I'm surprised at the guys here that at any other time would gladly sit and drink some good blackberry shine and would never agree to paying a tax for the privilege. But in this thread they act as though they work for Va ABC. GD is a lot like starburst. A juicy contradiction. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:16:29 PM EDT
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There's still the federal prohibition on distilling without a license. Perhaps you've noticed the letter "A" in BATFE. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would be nice if Virginia would lift the prohibition on distilling for personal consumption. There's still the federal prohibition on distilling without a license. Perhaps you've noticed the letter "A" in BATFE. God damn it! Stuff like this makes me want to go all E. Fuck it. I'll just plod along with my SNM application, federal explosives license, and Form 1 for my 1.2 kiloton DD. Probably a damn sight easier than the process of getting a federal license for the A - whatever the hell that is? |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:17:15 PM EDT
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I'm surprised at the guys here that at any other time would gladly sit and drink some good blackberry shine and would never agree to paying a tax for the privilege. But in this thread they act as though they work for Va ABC. I don't know why anyone would want to pretend to work for ABC. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:18:55 PM EDT
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Didn't george Washington raise an army and "go after" people for not paying liquor taxes?
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:21:33 PM EDT
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Fucking Filburn.
Correction. Fuck you, Wickard. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:23:36 PM EDT
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Didn't george Washington raise an army and "go after" people for not paying liquor taxes? Yep,Whisky Rebellion. They should have tarred and feathered his ass for that.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:25:56 PM EDT
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I know a guy who makes damn good Apple pie. People love that stuff. I can see how it'd be easy for a guy to start making it and just take it too far.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:26:30 PM EDT
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Yall need to focus on preventing these things from becoming illegal, instead of just ignoring the law and doing it anyway after it's been made illegal. if you break the law, knowingly, you should be prosecuted. That's a nice avatar. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:28:01 PM EDT
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From the pictures, it looks like he was a guy who liked to hunt and liked his shine. Nothing wrong with either, but let's be honest, the .gov didn't go after him because the .gov hates freedom, or hates good guys, they went after him because he was manufacturing and selling alchohol without licenses and without paying taxes. Frankly, I find it outrageous there is a separate charge because he was selling moonshine while in possession of a legal firearm. And I don't think the penalty for avoiding some alcohol taxes should be felony. I'd also be willing to say maybe even making some moonshine and selling it shouldn't even be a crime. But no matter how nice a guy, he had to know what he was doing was currently illegal and that there was a government agency who basically owes their existence to arresting people for what he was doing. There's the old saying about what happens when you play stupid games... I find it more outrageous that they went to his house and siezed all of his guns, not just the one he was carrying at the time. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:28:39 PM EDT
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Legalize alcohol.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:29:51 PM EDT
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The very idea of a non-violent felony is completely bizarre to me. you might try using your imagination, or reading the news occasionally. that should clarify it for you. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:29:55 PM EDT
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From the pictures, it looks like he was a guy who liked to hunt and liked his shine. Nothing wrong with either, but let's be honest, the .gov didn't go after him because the .gov hates freedom, or hates good guys, they went after him because he was manufacturing and selling alchohol without licenses and without paying taxes. Frankly, I find it outrageous there is a separate charge because he was selling moonshine while in possession of a legal firearm. And I don't think the penalty for avoiding some alcohol taxes should be felony. I'd also be willing to say maybe even making some moonshine and selling it shouldn't even be a crime. But no matter how nice a guy, he had to know what he was doing was currently illegal and that there was a government agency who basically owes their existence to arresting people for what he was doing. There's the old saying about what happens when you play stupid games... Al Sharpton will be next. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:30:28 PM EDT
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Those poor molested leverguns.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:31:28 PM EDT
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Prohibition is still on? Nope. They "taxed and regulated" it. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:32:41 PM EDT
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God damn it! Stuff like this makes me want to go all E. Fuck it. I'll just plod along with my SNM application, federal explosives license, and Form 1 for my 1.2 kiloton DD. Probably a damn sight easier than the process of getting a federal license for the A - whatever the hell that is? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would be nice if Virginia would lift the prohibition on distilling for personal consumption. There's still the federal prohibition on distilling without a license. Perhaps you've noticed the letter "A" in BATFE. God damn it! Stuff like this makes me want to go all E. Fuck it. I'll just plod along with my SNM application, federal explosives license, and Form 1 for my 1.2 kiloton DD. Probably a damn sight easier than the process of getting a federal license for the A - whatever the hell that is? You have my attention. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:33:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't george Washington raise an army and "go after" people for not paying liquor taxes? Plenty in this thread would jump at the opportunity |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:34:52 PM EDT
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. lol |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:35:33 PM EDT
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Shhhh. Don't let the history ruin his romanticized version. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. Odd, I was under the impression that people like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson manufactured liquor and sold it to the public without a license. lol President George Washington raised an army against American citizens that refused to pay taxes on liquor. Shhhh. Don't let the history ruin his romanticized version. Nah man. He made shine while smoking a fatty and weaving hemp blankets. |
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