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Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:21:22 PM EDT
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One thing I learn from these threads is I am the only one on here who doesn't train with high level fighters.  


Also I'm sure she could kick my ass but I'd love to touch the hiney!
Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:22:40 PM EDT
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She's 135. You've seen too many movies, because in the real world, in a fight, when it goes to the ground (as it mostly does), bjj/judo techniques will fuck your world up. size matters.
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FYI, this is what happens when a street tough goes up against even a mediocre professional fighter. No one outside of the male professional fighters is beating Ronda these days.

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She's 135. You've seen too many movies, because in the real world, in a fight, when it goes to the ground (as it mostly does), bjj/judo techniques will fuck your world up. size matters.


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Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:23:41 PM EDT
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Astute!  This guy is.
Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:24:35 PM EDT
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No, may throw me, but after that shes done.
Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:25:19 PM EDT
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A 135 lb male has significantly more upper body strength than a 135 lb female.

Why isn't Ronda fighting 135 lb males in Vegas?
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She's 135. You've seen too many movies, because in the real world, in a fight, size matters.


Yes. It does. So does skill and conditioning, even more so.

There is a point where size and/or strength will overcome skill and conditioning but that point is farther up the graph than most people are willing to admit or realize.

We had a Marine come to the dojo. He was about 5'10" and probably about 170. After class, we get to roll for a bit. He asked who wants a go. The smallest guy in the class offers. Danny was about 5'4" 135 on a good day but fairly skilled.

He was playing with the Marine and dominating him even though the other guy kept trying harder and harder. It wasn't even close even though there was a substantial size difference.

I've posted this video before. It's not really to show size difference (even though the bully is a bit bigger). It's merely to show the difference between a trained and untrained fighter. Mayhem is just playing around and is totally enforcing his will on the other guy.
Starts about 11;30
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A 135 lb male has significantly more upper body strength than a 135 lb female.

Why isn't Ronda fighting 135 lb males in Vegas?


I'd say that's fairly obvious. But if you think the average 135# male is as strong as her, you're delusional.
Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:25:23 PM EDT
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She could do what she wanted with me.
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Because she would be fighting professional fighters.  It doesn't take much training for weight and strength to start being a serious decisive factor, but it does take some.  A street tough isn't going to beat a professional fighter absent a lucky strike.  

 
Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:27:11 PM EDT
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I am still waiting for her to fight Cyborg. Thats a mean bitch.
Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:28:50 PM EDT
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Uh huh. Which is why weight classes in professional fighting exist, to protect the heavy weights from those damned bantam weights.
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FYI, this is what happens when a street tough goes up against even a mediocre professional fighter. No one outside of the male professional fighters is beating Ronda these days.

http://youtu.be/tl6ilMpq8hQ





She's 135. You've seen too many movies, because in the real world, in a fight, size matters.
Watch the early Gracie fights.  She'd break your arm in 12 places before you could blink.  Only a professional fighter is generally going to know enough BJJ to defend against someone like her.    




Uh huh. Which is why weight classes in professional fighting exist, to protect the heavy weights from those damned bantam weights.



Weight classes exist so we can see "fair" fights.

Rhonda Rousey v. 99% of the human population = UNFAIR fight.

Unless someone has some kind of actual training - beyond the first belt or two, outweigh her substantially and have the cardio to back it up, she would destroy you. She would destroy me. She would destroy 99.9% of GD. She would permanently cripple a good portion of us.

Here's a question: If we accept that Rousey is the "best female, mixed martial arts fighter in the world"

What percentage of the 18-55 year old US male population do you think she could "beat up"...?

What percentage of GD...?

Just curious.

To be clear, I would smash. If she let me.  
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That's debatable.
Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:30:14 PM EDT
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I'm sure he would
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Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:30:41 PM EDT
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You can say that again. Total hotness, there. And a decent person. Rousey has a trailer trash personality and mouth.

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I'd rather be destroyed by Gina Carano.

(In the good smash sort of way. Not the bad role reversal she-smash-you kind of way that GD has been into lately.)


You can say that again. Total hotness, there. And a decent person. Rousey has a trailer trash personality and mouth.



Wow, I know I have'nt kept up with current events but what have I missed?
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Holy shit Batman - talk about hardbodies....
















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This.

I wrestled for 7 years.  I could take her.
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Cyborg would fail the ufc new drug rules...
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Wow, I know I have'nt kept up with current events but what have I missed?
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I'd rather be destroyed by Gina Carano.

(In the good smash sort of way. Not the bad role reversal she-smash-you kind of way that GD has been into lately.)


You can say that again. Total hotness, there. And a decent person. Rousey has a trailer trash personality and mouth.



Wow, I know I have'nt kept up with current events but what have I missed?


Just seen a couple interviews, and the typical pre fight running of the mouth.

I'm frankly surprised she had the discipline to be an Olympic fighter, given her attitude and personality I've seen from her. Maybe it's all just a show. I don't know her personally, so perhaps I shouldn't have said anything but it's sure the persona she's putting out there for public consumption.
Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:33:23 PM EDT
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Fights at that. Walks around at 150+
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http://youtu.be/tl6ilMpq8hQ





She's 135. You've seen too many movies, because in the real world, in a fight, size matters.


Fights at that. Walks around at 150+


She weighs in, the day before the fight, at 135.  Her fighting weight day of is closer to150.
Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:33:41 PM EDT
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I'd say that's fairly obvious. But if you think the average 135# male is as strong as her, you're delusional.
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http://youtu.be/tl6ilMpq8hQ





She's 135. You've seen too many movies, because in the real world, in a fight, size matters.


Yes. It does. So does skill and conditioning, even more so.

There is a point where size and/or strength will overcome skill and conditioning but that point is farther up the graph than most people are willing to admit or realize.

We had a Marine come to the dojo. He was about 5'10" and probably about 170. After class, we get to roll for a bit. He asked who wants a go. The smallest guy in the class offers. Danny was about 5'4" 135 on a good day but fairly skilled.

He was playing with the Marine and dominating him even though the other guy kept trying harder and harder. It wasn't even close even though there was a substantial size difference.

I've posted this video before. It's not really to show size difference (even though the bully is a bit bigger). It's merely to show the difference between a trained and untrained fighter. Mayhem is just playing around and is totally enforcing his will on the other guy.
Starts about 11;30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8XYteVus2U


A 135 lb male has significantly more upper body strength than a 135 lb female.

Why isn't Ronda fighting 135 lb males in Vegas?


I'd say that's fairly obvious. But if you think the average 135# male is as strong as her, you're delusional.


We're not talking about the average 135# male, OP is saying she could kick my ass, you brought up the 135# dude fighting the marine.
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DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN.  Too bad Pride is gone.  They'd have made that fight happen.  

 
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Just seen a couple interviews, and the typical pre fight running of the mouth.

I'm frankly surprised she had the discipline to be an Olympic fighter, given her attitude and personality I've seen from her. Maybe it's all just a show. I don't know her personally, so perhaps I shouldn't have said anything but it's sure the persona she's putting out there for public consumption.
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I'd rather be destroyed by Gina Carano.

(In the good smash sort of way. Not the bad role reversal she-smash-you kind of way that GD has been into lately.)


You can say that again. Total hotness, there. And a decent person. Rousey has a trailer trash personality and mouth.



Wow, I know I have'nt kept up with current events but what have I missed?


Just seen a couple interviews, and the typical pre fight running of the mouth.

I'm frankly surprised she had the discipline to be an Olympic fighter, given her attitude and personality I've seen from her. Maybe it's all just a show. I don't know her personally, so perhaps I shouldn't have said anything but it's sure the persona she's putting out there for public consumption.


Olympic judo though, is it that surprising?  
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That's a woman?
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I wrestled for 7 years.  I could take her.
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This.





I wrestled for 7 years.  I could take her.
Everyone keeps saying 135lb because that's what she weighs in at the day before her sanctioned fight. Rousey is probably stepping into the cage 145-150 on fight night and probably walks around when not in camp 155+


 






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Everyone keeps saying 135lb because that's what she weighs in at the day before her sanctioned fight. Rousey is probably stepping into the cage 145-150 on fight night and probably walks around when not in camp 155+  
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This.

I wrestled for 7 years.  I could take her.
Everyone keeps saying 135lb because that's what she weighs in at the day before her sanctioned fight. Rousey is probably stepping into the cage 145-150 on fight night and probably walks around when not in camp 155+  


Those 15 lbs aren't muscle.
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I would like to introduce you to multiple time world jiu jitsu champion Gabi Garcia


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W.   T.    F.
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You sir get it.

While size isn't everything it certainly helps.  

I know a couple of guys that weigh 300+ that can bench and squat some insane amounts........When a man that big and strong gets ahold of you all he has to do is fall on you.  

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FYI, this is what happens when a street tough goes up against even a mediocre professional fighter. No one outside of the male professional fighters is beating Ronda these days.

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She's 135. You've seen too many movies, because in the real world, in a fight, size matters.


You sir get it.

While size isn't everything it certainly helps.  

I know a couple of guys that weigh 300+ that can bench and squat some insane amounts........When a man that big and strong gets ahold of you all he has to do is fall on you.  



The early days of no holds barred/mixed martial arts have proven otherwise.
Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:38:17 PM EDT
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Are you fucking serious?
Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:39:33 PM EDT
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I'll just leave this here.  Weight classes do matter.  That guy isn't a champion fighter but manhandled her like a little kid.

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Those roid delts tho.
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Just seen a couple interviews, and the typical pre fight running of the mouth.

I'm frankly surprised she had the discipline to be an Olympic fighter, given her attitude and personality I've seen from her. Maybe it's all just a show. I don't know her personally, so perhaps I shouldn't have said anything but it's sure the persona she's putting out there for public consumption.
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I'd rather be destroyed by Gina Carano.

(In the good smash sort of way. Not the bad role reversal she-smash-you kind of way that GD has been into lately.)


You can say that again. Total hotness, there. And a decent person. Rousey has a trailer trash personality and mouth.



Wow, I know I have'nt kept up with current events but what have I missed?


Just seen a couple interviews, and the typical pre fight running of the mouth.

I'm frankly surprised she had the discipline to be an Olympic fighter, given her attitude and personality I've seen from her. Maybe it's all just a show. I don't know her personally, so perhaps I shouldn't have said anything but it's sure the persona she's putting out there for public consumption.


Thanks, the only time I ever heard her talk was at the movies
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She is MUCH smaller now.



Last I heard she was getting ready for her first MMA fight and it was going to be against a man.


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She is MUCH smaller now.



Last I heard she was getting ready for her first MMA fight and it was going to be against a man.


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Isn't her stepdad a member here?
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Those roid delts tho.
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We're not talking about the average 135# male, OP is saying she could kick my ass, you brought up the 135# dude fighting the marine.
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I agree than men tend to be stronger. But comparing a professional female athlete to the average man, pound for pound, she's going to be stronger. Given equal training, obviously the pro man is stronger than the pro woman at equal weights.

Kind of like arguing oranges are orange.
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http://www.mmamania.com/2015/1/9/7505259/sorry-meatheads-but-ronda-rousey-does-not-enjoy-weightlifting-ufc-184-mma


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She doesn't even lift bro.
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This.  I'd be too busy trying to get a hand on her ass or tittay - she'd have me down in a fucking heartbeat.  Hopefully, I'd get to buy her a couple drinks after.
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This.

I wrestled for 7 years.  I could take her.
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This.

I wrestled for 7 years.  I could take her.


Her lifetime of Judo, bronze olympic medal and silver and gold medals from world's and pan am games laugh at your 7 years of wrestling.
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Yeah. Dude is obviously a piker.

Gegard Mousasi: Professional fighter website
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Those 15 lbs aren't muscle.
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I wrestled for 7 years.  I could take her.
Everyone keeps saying 135lb because that's what she weighs in at the day before her sanctioned fight. Rousey is probably stepping into the cage 145-150 on fight night and probably walks around when not in camp 155+  


Those 15 lbs aren't muscle.


Nope. It is water....from muscle.
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Her lifetime of Judo, bronze olympic medal and silver and gold medals from world's and pan am games laugh at your 7 years of wrestling.

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I wrestled for 7 years.  I could take her.




Her lifetime of Judo, bronze olympic medal and silver and gold medals from world's and pan am games laugh at your 7 years of wrestling.

I played baseball for 7 years.  I could hit homers off Clayton Kershaw and strike out Adrian Beltre.  

 
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LOL @ anyone here that thinks they are anywhere near the level of Gegard Mousasi. Your 50 pound advantage over Ronda isn't exactly the same as his. And yes he is a champion fighter.
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Nope. It is water....from muscle.
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I wrestled for 7 years.  I could take her.
Everyone keeps saying 135lb because that's what she weighs in at the day before her sanctioned fight. Rousey is probably stepping into the cage 145-150 on fight night and probably walks around when not in camp 155+  


Those 15 lbs aren't muscle.


Nope. It is water....from muscle.


So her strength increases by approximately what percentage once she hydrates?
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"Mole...... Mole...... MOLEY, MOLEY, MOLEY, MOLEY, MOLEY!!!"


"MOLE!! BLOODY MOLE!! We're not supposed to talk about the bloody mole, but there's a bloody mole WINKING ME IN THE FACE!!"


"I'm gonna cut it off, chop it up, and make some guacaMOLE!!"
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At first I thought this is where you were going. She needs to have that removed.


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I played baseball for 7 years.  I could hit homers off Clayton Kershaw and strike out Adrian Beltre.    
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5' 7
135lb




This.

I wrestled for 7 years.  I could take her.


Her lifetime of Judo, bronze olympic medal and silver and gold medals from world's and pan am games laugh at your 7 years of wrestling.
I played baseball for 7 years.  I could hit homers off Clayton Kershaw and strike out Adrian Beltre.    


Your comparison would be more accurate if you said a collegiate level softball player. Back a softball pitcher up to a 60 foot mound and you probably could.
Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:56:36 PM EDT
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Death by snu snu
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Her lifetime of Judo, bronze olympic medal and silver and gold medals from world's and pan am games laugh at your 7 years of wrestling.
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5' 7
135lb




This.

I wrestled for 7 years.  I could take her.


Her lifetime of Judo, bronze olympic medal and silver and gold medals from world's and pan am games laugh at your 7 years of wrestling.


That's cute.  Female Olympic level world class track and field times are on par with a typical high school boys state meet.  There is a reason she doesn't fight men.   If she weighed 175 it would be a lot more interesting.
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So her strength increases by approximately what percentage once she hydrates?
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I would like to introduce you to multiple time world jiu jitsu champion Gabi Garcia


http://herecomesanewchallenger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Gabi-Garcia.jpg





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I would like to introduce you to multiple time world jiu jitsu champion Gabi Garcia


http://herecomesanewchallenger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Gabi-Garcia.jpg





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That's Frank Mir...with tits.
Link Posted: 2/26/2015 4:58:55 PM EDT
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This has turned into another trannie thread.
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