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Posted: 2/10/2015 7:51:33 PM EDT
Took the newest build out today for some fun. I had 100 rounds of fiocchi down the pipe already, and put another 100 right on everything I was pointing at.
Then I swithced to the ZQ stuff I bought a few months back when walmart had it on sale. first round. 
The culprit. 
After cleaning out the brass dust, it seems like the gun is ok. 
It started as such a good trip.. 
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Posted: 2/10/2015 7:54:20 PM EDT
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In November I ran 1500 rounds of ZQ in a frankengun without issue.
I should add I ran 5.56. Looks like you had an issue with 9mm. I heard it is a hot load. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 7:54:41 PM EDT
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Awesome. I bought 3000 rds of it
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Posted: 2/10/2015 7:54:51 PM EDT
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Haven't been let down by their .308
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Posted: 2/10/2015 7:58:54 PM EDT
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Awesome. I bought 3000 rds of it Ill dispose of it for you |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 7:59:14 PM EDT
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Haven't been let down by their .308 Me neither! 
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Posted: 2/10/2015 7:59:15 PM EDT
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Well, I've had no issues. Sucks that you had trouble.
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:00:19 PM EDT
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first round? geez...
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:00:20 PM EDT
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Haven't been let down by their .308 It shoots just fine but it groups like shit. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:00:58 PM EDT
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Awesome. I bought 3000 rds of it I bought 500. Of course it was the first one that went kaboom, instead of the 500th one. 
I will never trust it now, especially in the g17. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:01:05 PM EDT
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It may be "cheap" but I don't recall the price being all that cheap.
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:01:40 PM EDT
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damn glad you still got all your digits
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:02:08 PM EDT
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Haven't been let down by their .308 Yep, functions and groups well out of a sig 716. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:03:33 PM EDT
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Is it just me or does it look like it fired out of battery?
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:03:50 PM EDT
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It may be "cheap" but I don't recall the price being all that cheap. So what's it going to take to fix the AR? The gun held up great. No real damage that I could see. My jeans on the other hand.. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:03:50 PM EDT
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It may be "cheap" but I don't recall the price being all that cheap. $9.97 for 30 rds, I believe. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:04:00 PM EDT
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Is that paki tape on your buffer tube?
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:05:42 PM EDT
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Is it just me or does it look like it fired out of battery? Indeed. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:06:10 PM EDT
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Is it just me or does it look like it fired out of battery? I was wondering that. The part of the case thats not pancaked looks like it could of been the only part in the chamber perhaps? The gun ran great before hand, with the fiocchi. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:06:30 PM EDT
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It may be "cheap" but I don't recall the price being all that cheap. $9.97 for 30 rds, I believe. 50 rounds |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:07:55 PM EDT
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Is it just me or does it look like it fired out of battery? Indeed. I don't think this thread is going to go the way OP had hoped... |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:08:00 PM EDT
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It may be "cheap" but I don't recall the price being all that cheap. $9.97 for 30 rds, I believe. 50 rounds. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:08:46 PM EDT
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I ran about 50rds thru my 9mm sbr suppressed AR and it was horribly dirty. The gun was 250 rds into a cleaning that 50 rds stopped it dead. I will shoot it thru my 9mm pistols from now on.
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:09:18 PM EDT
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Where is it made?
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:10:08 PM EDT
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TF? It knocked the stock off of your rifle and took off about 10 inches of barrel too!
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:10:22 PM EDT
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It may be "cheap" but I don't recall the price being all that cheap. $9.97 for 30 rds, I believe. 50 rounds. the 5.56mm is $9;97 for 30 rounds. something like .33 cents a round. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:10:24 PM EDT
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$9.97 for 30 rds, I believe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It may be "cheap" but I don't recall the price being all that cheap. $9.97 for 30 rds, I believe. For I like that the 5.56 comes in 30rd boxes. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:11:09 PM EDT
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yeah kinda looks like it fired out of battery, is that gun capable of firing without being in battery looks like there's no cam action like a regular ar...
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:12:39 PM EDT
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I think it was $8 for 30 rounds last October-ish.
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:14:17 PM EDT
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yeah kinda looks like it fired out of battery, is that gun capable of firing without being in battery looks like there's no cam action like a regular ar... The more I look at it, the more I am leaning towards this too... there is no cam on the bolt. Edit: wonder if I can get this moved to the tech section, for help on diagnosing the problem. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:15:57 PM EDT
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That sucks. Their 5.56 has been good to me so far.
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:22:44 PM EDT
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Problems were reported last year on ZQ rifle ammo.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1653463_Walmart_ZQ_Turkish_made_ammo__9_99_.html  |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:27:00 PM EDT
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Awesome. I bought 3000 rds of it If I had 3000 rounds of that and saw OP's post, I'd give my youngest daughter a bullet puller and tell her to get to work. That's an ammo failure clear as day. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:27:45 PM EDT
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I have a few hundred rounds of ZQI 9mm through my VP9 with 0 issues, had some issues in a POF 5, but it was the pistol and not the ammo.
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:30:36 PM EDT
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Is it just me or does it look like it fired out of battery? Yes, it fired out of battery |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:31:19 PM EDT
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If I had 3000 rounds of that and saw OP's post, I'd give my youngest daughter a bullet puller and tell her to get to work. That's an ammo failure clear as day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Awesome. I bought 3000 rds of it If I had 3000 rounds of that and saw OP's post, I'd give my youngest daughter a bullet puller and tell her to get to work. That's an ammo failure clear as day. The ammo cause OP's rifle to fire out of battery? |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:31:34 PM EDT
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damn glad you still got all your digits ?? It's 9mm, you can't even hurt someone by shooting them with a 9mm let alone a kaboom. 10mm he'd still be missing. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:32:33 PM EDT
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If I had 3000 rounds of that and saw OP's post, I'd give my youngest daughter a bullet puller and tell her to get to work. That's an ammo failure clear as day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Awesome. I bought 3000 rds of it If I had 3000 rounds of that and saw OP's post, I'd give my youngest daughter a bullet puller and tell her to get to work. That's an ammo failure clear as day. Primer not seated properly maybe? I am not a reloader, and am admittedly naive when it comes to ammo issues.. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:37:02 PM EDT
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?? It's 9mm, you can't even hurt someone by shooting them with a 9mm let alone a kaboom. 10mm he'd still be missing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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damn glad you still got all your digits ?? It's 9mm, you can't even hurt someone by shooting them with a 9mm let alone a kaboom. 10mm he'd still be missing. pretty sure the Glock exploding would cause moar damage. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:40:52 PM EDT
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I've shot a fair amount of the 9mm and 5.56 without any trouble.
Both seem pretty hot. You should check the feed/fit of the 124gr round vs. the shorter 115gr round. These Turkish pills have a longer ogive and are overall a tad taller. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:41:21 PM EDT
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Glad you are ok.
I have a shit load of the 9mm and so far have yet to have any problems out of my G19 or p226 |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:42:36 PM EDT
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I've shot a fair amount of the 9mm and 5.56 without any trouble. Both seem pretty hot. You should check the feed/fit of the 124gr round vs. the shorter 115gr round. These Turkish pills have a longer ogive and are overall a tad taller. Will do. edit: they look and feel identical. I dont own a caliper, but if there is a difference it is minuscule. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:50:40 PM EDT
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I had about 5 or so fail to feeds in the 200 rounds of 9mm I bought. Used both a G17 and G19.
Shit ammo in 9mm, haven't tried the 5.56 yet. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:52:48 PM EDT
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I think many have missed that the OP was firing ZQI 9mm ammo, which is known to be hot/have problems. Their 5.56 seems like decent stuff though.
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:57:14 PM EDT
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OOB discharge . Did your extractor survive?
Exit to add: looks like hour extractor is fine |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 9:00:39 PM EDT
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OOB discharge . Did your extractor survive? Exit to add: looks like hour extractor is fine It extracted the bottom of the case and threw it into my shirt. 
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Posted: 2/10/2015 9:02:54 PM EDT
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it's sort of both options from your poll,
ammo failure because it wasn't sized to chamber properly which caused an oob. of course this is just monday morning quarterbacking but that would be my best guess |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 9:06:36 PM EDT
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That looks like it fired out of battery.
I would be concerned with how the firing pin hit with it not being all the way in battery. simple test would be just shim/block the bolt from locking all the way up and see if it will drop the hammer. take a wooden dowel and cut it to fit making it just a little longer so the bolt don't lock up then pull the trigger. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 9:10:52 PM EDT
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damn, glad you're ok.. glad i didn't FO on these
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Posted: 2/10/2015 9:14:17 PM EDT
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That looks like it fired out of battery. I would be concerned with how the firing pin hit with it not being all the way in battery. simple test would be just shim/block the bolt from locking all the way up and see if it will drop the hammer. take a wooden dowel and cut it to fit making it just a little longer so the bolt don't lock up then pull the trigger. My concern too. The firing pin looks good as new, and I could tell by the primer (in the pic) that it hit center. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 9:18:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where is it made? My P30 was filled with brass dust after putting a few mags of 9mm through it. |
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