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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:08:21 PM EDT
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Them and Albert Einstein
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:10:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Them and Albert Einstein |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:13:01 PM EDT
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dont forget Oppenheimer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Them and Albert Einstein These two, yes. The crews of the nuclear bombing raids? No. They did nothing to advance their field. They were simply a crew of a mission. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:13:50 PM EDT
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I thought many (if not all) of the crew members got the DFC and other awards.
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:15:06 PM EDT
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Wright Bros deserve it.
Igor Sikorsy too. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:16:12 PM EDT
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But two missions that ended the war.
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:20:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: dont forget Oppenheimer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Them and Albert Einstein And Leó Szilárd. Despite the fact that he didn't agree with using the bomb beyond a "demonstration without casualties" without him and Einstein getting the government to realize that a bomb was possible and start up the Manhattan Project the atomic bomb would have taken much longer to go from a theory to an operational and war ending weapon. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:21:03 PM EDT
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I was gonna say DFC and Air MEdal
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:21:58 PM EDT
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But two missions that ended the war. Those two mission were only possible because of the sacrifice of tens of thousands of others before them. They were only the final two missions of the war. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:24:02 PM EDT
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But two missions that ended the war. Here we go . . . |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:26:27 PM EDT
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But two missions that ended the war. but they started the atomic age\.that war is still coming to a theater near you! |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:28:23 PM EDT
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Those two mission were only possible because of the sacrifice of tens of thousands of others before them. They were only the final two missions of the war. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But two missions that ended the war. Those two mission were only possible because of the sacrifice of tens of thousands of others before them. They were only the final two missions of the war. Agreed. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:29:32 PM EDT
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Those two mission were only possible because of the sacrifice of tens of thousands of others before them. They were only the final two missions of the war. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But two missions that ended the war. Those two mission were only possible because of the sacrifice of tens of thousands of others before them. They were only the final two missions of the war. This. Had we not bombed the everloving bejeezus out of Japan and incinerated half their country before we pulled out the nukes, those two bombs would not have ended the war. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:38:17 PM EDT
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Quoted: I know Obama wouldn't, and they're all gone as far as I know, but they helped bring a quick end to a war that would have continued. The reason I ask this is the Devil's Brigade is receiving one. Given what an invasion of Japan would've cost, don't these men deserve the same honor? I think some of the crew members of other planes on those raids are still alive. Last March I met co-pilot Raymond P. Biel at an airshow; he was in the B-29 "Full House" during the Hiroshima mission. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:42:23 PM EDT
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These two, yes. The crews of the nuclear bombing raids? No. They did nothing to advance their field. They were simply a crew of a mission. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Them and Albert Einstein These two, yes. The crews of the nuclear bombing raids? No. They did nothing to advance their field. They were simply a crew of a mission. Took huge balls to drop those things... nobody knew for sure if they would have survived that mission or been swatted out of the air like a fly by the pressure wave. Congressional Gold Medals are given out for much less. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:42:48 PM EDT
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I shook Paul Tibbets hand at an air show here in Columbus Ohio. In the cruel arithmetic of war he saved a million Japanese lives.
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:47:54 PM EDT
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These two, yes. The crews of the nuclear bombing raids? No. They did nothing to advance their field. They were simply a crew of a mission. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Them and Albert Einstein These two, yes. The crews of the nuclear bombing raids? No. They did nothing to advance their field. They were simply a crew of a mission. Hell, Dolittle got the Medal of Honor for his unit's raid. His unit's members all got the DFC. Doolittle received the Medal of Honor from President Franklin D. Roosevelt at the White House for planning and leading his raid on Japan. His citation reads: "For conspicuous leadership above and beyond the call of duty, involving personal valor and intrepidity at an extreme hazard to life. With the apparent certainty of being forced to land in enemy territory or to perish at sea, Lt. Col. Doolittle personally led a squadron of Army bombers, manned by volunteer crews, in a highly destructive raid on the Japanese mainland." Per Wiki |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 7:52:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: I know Obama wouldn't, and they're all gone as far as I know, but they helped bring a quick end to a war that would have continued. The reason I ask this is the Devil's Brigade is receiving one. Given what an invasion of Japan would've cost, don't these men deserve the same honor? Considering the Congressional Gold Medal is a civilian award, and what they did was under the color of the military...I'm gonna say no. If they deserve a medal for their actions the military should be behind it. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 8:05:08 PM EDT
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I was gonna say DFC and Air MEdal This. Doesn't the MoH have a "in the face of enemy fire" requirement to it 
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Posted: 2/3/2015 8:28:09 PM EDT
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Paul Tibbets was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross, the second highest decoration, for piloting the Enola Gay.
The other members of the crew also were decorated, with Silver Stars. 
"8/6/45; 2:58 PM - The Enola Gay touches down on the runway at Tinian Island, followed a short time later by The Great Artiste and #91. Silver stars were awarded to each man involved with the mission. Tibbets received the Distinguished Service Cross. Mission debriefings were immediately conducted by Hazen Payett, an intelligence officer." http://www.mphpa.org/classic/CG/CG_09C1.htm http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/201203A50.html |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 8:42:36 PM EDT
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Paul Tibbets was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross, the second highest decoration, for piloting the Enola Gay. http://www.mphpa.org/classic/COLLECTIONS/CG-JPAP/Images-800x1200/CGP-JPAP-075.jpg http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/mitokosei/imgs/d/2/d28a56bb.jpg http://www.mphpa.org/classic/PH/CG_2/CGP-576.jpg The other members of the crew also were decorated, with Silver Stars. http://www.mphpa.org/classic/PH/CG_2/CGP-577.jpg "8/6/45; 2:58 PM - The Enola Gay touches down on the runway at Tinian Island, followed a short time later by The Great Artiste and #91. Silver stars were awarded to each man involved with the mission. Tibbets received the Distinguished Service Cross. Mission debriefings were immediately conducted by Hazen Payett, an intelligence officer." http://www.mphpa.org/classic/CG/CG_09C1.htm http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/201203A50.html Great artiste was the only B29 to fly both missions. The atomic bombings brought the war to an end. God bless Curtis LeMay. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 9:40:57 PM EDT
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Great artiste was the only B29 to fly both missions. The atomic bombings brought the war to an end. God bless Curtis LeMay. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Paul Tibbets was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross, the second highest decoration, for piloting the Enola Gay. http://www.mphpa.org/classic/COLLECTIONS/CG-JPAP/Images-800x1200/CGP-JPAP-075.jpg http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/mitokosei/imgs/d/2/d28a56bb.jpg http://www.mphpa.org/classic/PH/CG_2/CGP-576.jpg The other members of the crew also were decorated, with Silver Stars. http://www.mphpa.org/classic/PH/CG_2/CGP-577.jpg "8/6/45; 2:58 PM - The Enola Gay touches down on the runway at Tinian Island, followed a short time later by The Great Artiste and #91. Silver stars were awarded to each man involved with the mission. Tibbets received the Distinguished Service Cross. Mission debriefings were immediately conducted by Hazen Payett, an intelligence officer." http://www.mphpa.org/classic/CG/CG_09C1.htm http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/201203A50.html Great artiste was the only B29 to fly both missions. The atomic bombings brought the war to an end. God bless Curtis LeMay. Great Artiste was originally to carry Fat Man. They couldn't get it ready in time so Sweeney flew Bock's Car. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 10:28:27 PM EDT
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nobody knew for sure if they would have survived that mission perhaps, but this was pretty much the case for almost every bomber crew on every mission. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 10:30:10 PM EDT
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Great artiste was the only B29 to fly both missions. The atomic bombings brought the war to an end. God bless Curtis LeMay. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Paul Tibbets was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross, the second highest decoration, for piloting the Enola Gay. http://www.mphpa.org/classic/COLLECTIONS/CG-JPAP/Images-800x1200/CGP-JPAP-075.jpg http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/mitokosei/imgs/d/2/d28a56bb.jpg http://www.mphpa.org/classic/PH/CG_2/CGP-576.jpg The other members of the crew also were decorated, with Silver Stars. http://www.mphpa.org/classic/PH/CG_2/CGP-577.jpg "8/6/45; 2:58 PM - The Enola Gay touches down on the runway at Tinian Island, followed a short time later by The Great Artiste and #91. Silver stars were awarded to each man involved with the mission. Tibbets received the Distinguished Service Cross. Mission debriefings were immediately conducted by Hazen Payett, an intelligence officer." http://www.mphpa.org/classic/CG/CG_09C1.htm http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/201203A50.html Great artiste was the only B29 to fly both missions. The atomic bombings brought the war to an end. God bless Curtis LeMay. Those bombing saved many many American lives. |
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