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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:34:43 PM EDT
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How is the book?
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:39:19 PM EDT
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Ich hatt' einen Kameraden
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:42:16 PM EDT
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How is the book? Good book and a lot of technical info as well as the tactics he used. He was one of the first firm believers in infantry and armor together, and more than a few times was able to come onto the front of an active battle and by simply supporting the infantry and instructing them on how to support him in turn, was able to swing the momentum into their favor. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:49:00 PM EDT
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I have "Tigers In The Mud" on my iphone somewhere; have yet to finish it.
I'd have had a beer with him. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:52:26 PM EDT
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I have Tigers in the Mud. Awesome photos in that book as well. I also have a signed print with Otto, and a few other Tiger aces.
RIP. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:54:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good book and a lot of technical info as well as the tactics he used. He was one of the first firm believers in infantry and armor together, and more than a few times was able to come onto the front of an active battle and by simply supporting the infantry and instructing them on how to support him in turn, was able to swing the momentum into their favor. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How is the book? Good book and a lot of technical info as well as the tactics he used. He was one of the first firm believers in infantry and armor together, and more than a few times was able to come onto the front of an active battle and by simply supporting the infantry and instructing them on how to support him in turn, was able to swing the momentum into their favor. He also honors the men in his company in the book. RIP. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:56:28 PM EDT
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How is the book? It was pretty good, I read it a few years ago. Sorry to hear that he passed. 
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:31:12 PM EDT
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I've been reading Tigers in the Mud for a while now. I only get time when I'm at the doctor's office with the kids it seems. It's good so far. I like reading the other sides perspective.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:36:35 PM EDT
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How is the book? One of the best German first hand accounts out there; get it. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:37:36 PM EDT
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I really liked Tigers in the Mud. Great book.
RIP. There aren't many left built like that! |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:38:01 PM EDT
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So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?.
How many Americans did he kill? |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:42:29 PM EDT
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So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? While I give you props for your Deathbat avatar, this kind of argument usually falls on the ignorant side of the spectrum. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:42:40 PM EDT
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So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? Lol. He wasn't a Nazi and declined several attempts to get him to go to the SS, once by Himmler himself. I don't think he ever killed a GI. He spent almost the entire war on the Eastern front in Tigers (started in Pz38 (t)s) until he was wounded while on foot on a route recon he was known to do. His unit was under trained and under equipped with Jagdtigers when they were sent to western front. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:44:19 PM EDT
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While I give you props for your Deathbat avatar, this kind of argument usually falls on the ignorant side of the spectrum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? While I give you props for your Deathbat avatar, this kind of argument usually falls on the ignorant side of the spectrum. Educate me then. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:45:56 PM EDT
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His book on kindle is two bucks right now
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:49:39 PM EDT
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There's a famous newsreel that shows an officer sitting in the commanders hatch of a King Tiger as it drives in review of a column of King Tigers. I read where the officer is him. Most here at Arfcom have probably seen it at one time or another.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:56:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a famous newsreel that shows an officer sitting in the commanders hatch of a King Tiger as it drives in review of a column of King Tigers. I read where the officer is him. Most here at Arfcom have probably seen it at one time or another. Some vids:  |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:57:52 PM EDT
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His book is definitely worth the read.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:00:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Educate me then. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? While I give you props for your Deathbat avatar, this kind of argument usually falls on the ignorant side of the spectrum. Educate me then. Not every German soldier was a Nazi. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:05:56 PM EDT
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There's a famous newsreel that shows an officer sitting in the commanders hatch of a King Tiger as it drives in review of a column of King Tigers. I read where the officer is him. Most here at Arfcom have probably seen it at one time or another. Doubt it. He was never in a schwerepanzerabteilung equipped with KT that I can recall. That reel is also from preps for Bulge, right? He wasn't there for that. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:11:45 PM EDT
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So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? Killed a shitload of Communists, nothing wrong with that. Sent to defend the Rhine in 3/45, first stint in the West. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:17:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? I guess you better get your shovel and dig up Larry Thorne then. The Arlington guards will have some fun with you. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:19:36 PM EDT
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$2 for the kindle version of the book. Never heard of him before, but I'll give it a try.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:20:21 PM EDT
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I guess you better get your shovel and dig up Larry Thorne then. The Arlington guards will have some fun with you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? I guess you better get your shovel and dig up Larry Thorne then. The Arlington guards will have some fun with you. doesnt matter where he's in the ground. just that he is.That dude WAS a Nazi. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:21:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not every German soldier was a Nazi. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? While I give you props for your Deathbat avatar, this kind of argument usually falls on the ignorant side of the spectrum. Educate me then. Not every German soldier was a Nazi. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:24:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: doesnt matter where he's in the ground. just that he is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? I guess you better get your shovel and dig up Larry Thorne then. The Arlington guards will have some fun with you. doesnt matter where he's in the ground. just that he is.  so youre willfully ignorant |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:24:25 PM EDT
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doesnt matter where he's in the ground. just that he is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? I guess you better get your shovel and dig up Larry Thorne then. The Arlington guards will have some fun with you. doesnt matter where he's in the ground. just that he is. All that hate's is gonna burn you up, kid. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:26:11 PM EDT
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doesnt matter where he's in the ground. just that he is.That dude WAS a Nazi. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? I guess you better get your shovel and dig up Larry Thorne then. The Arlington guards will have some fun with you. doesnt matter where he's in the ground. just that he is.That dude WAS a Nazi. Yawn. The more Russians he killed in WWII saved us from an emboldened Soviet Union later. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:29:53 PM EDT
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so youre willfully ignorant
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So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? I guess you better get your shovel and dig up Larry Thorne then. The Arlington guards will have some fun with you. doesnt matter where he's in the ground. just that he is. so youre willfully ignorant
So this guy wasn't a Nazi either? Must have misread something, |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:32:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill?  |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:36:22 PM EDT
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So this guy wasn't a Nazi either? Must have misread something, Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? I guess you better get your shovel and dig up Larry Thorne then. The Arlington guards will have some fun with you. doesnt matter where he's in the ground. just that he is. so youre willfully ignorant
So this guy wasn't a Nazi either? Must have misread something, Did you not read what I posted above in reply to you? Carius was not a Nazi. Carius turned down Himmler himself to join the SS. It is extremely doubtful he ever killed a single GI. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:39:38 PM EDT
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So I check this guy out, and theres a pic of him with the little SS deathheads on his lapel, did all German soldiers wear that?
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:43:11 PM EDT
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Fought for his country in a uniform, he deserves respect.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:45:51 PM EDT
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doesnt matter where he's in the ground. just that he is.That dude WAS a Nazi. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? I guess you better get your shovel and dig up Larry Thorne then. The Arlington guards will have some fun with you. doesnt matter where he's in the ground. just that he is.That dude WAS a Nazi. So, all of our men and women in the armed forces right now are liberal socialists. Right? |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:49:10 PM EDT
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So, all of our men and women in the armed forces right now are liberal socialists. Right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? I guess you better get your shovel and dig up Larry Thorne then. The Arlington guards will have some fun with you. doesnt matter where he's in the ground. just that he is.That dude WAS a Nazi. So, all of our men and women in the armed forces right now are liberal socialists. Right? They said all German world war 2 soldiers weren't Nazis, but Larry was in the SS, and they say Otto wasn't, but he's wearing the deathheads thing on his uniform. I'm just trying to get my nazis in a row. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:52:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I check this guy out, and theres a pic of him with the little SS deathheads on his lapel, did all German soldiers wear that? Look up Panzer Unit insignias. Larry Thorne did serve in the SS, and is still buried in Arlington after serving the US with distinction. Not everything is black and white. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:54:02 PM EDT
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In the forward to his book's 2003 edition, Carius defended his service to Nazi Germany, saying combat troops shouldn't be painted with the broad brush of guilt. This is something to many people do not understand. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:54:17 PM EDT
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So I check this guy out, and theres a pic of him with the little SS deathheads on his lapel, did all German soldiers wear that? Link to photo? |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:56:14 PM EDT
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So I check this guy out, and theres a pic of him with the little SS deathheads on his lapel, did all German soldiers wear that? Link to photo? Just google his name, theres one in a white uniform he doesn't have it, and one where he does have it in a blacl uniform where hes younger. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:57:14 PM EDT
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So I check this guy out, and theres a pic of him with the little SS deathheads on his lapel, did all German soldiers wear that? Not SS deathheads. The Panzer troops wore a skull and crossbones on their collar patches, but they were different than the Totenkopf SS troops patches. Look at the hat badges, Heer, not SS. The ignorance thing runs deep I see. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:58:15 PM EDT
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Not SS deathheads. The Panzer troops wore a skull and crossbones on their collar patches, but they were different than the Totenkopf SS troops patches. Look at the hat badges, Heer, not SS. The ignorance thing runs deep I see. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I check this guy out, and theres a pic of him with the little SS deathheads on his lapel, did all German soldiers wear that? Not SS deathheads. The Panzer troops wore a skull and crossbones on their collar patches, but they were different than the Totenkopf SS troops patches. Look at the hat badges, Heer, not SS. The ignorance thing runs deep I see. Sorry, I don't study Nazi Germany like some of you. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:59:17 PM EDT
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They said all German world war 2 soldiers weren't Nazis, but Larry was in the SS, and they say Otto wasn't, but he's wearing the deathheads thing on his uniform. I'm just trying to get my nazis in a row. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So....a former Nazi soldier died? And thats bad because?. How many Americans did he kill? I guess you better get your shovel and dig up Larry Thorne then. The Arlington guards will have some fun with you. doesnt matter where he's in the ground. just that he is.That dude WAS a Nazi. So, all of our men and women in the armed forces right now are liberal socialists. Right? They said all German world war 2 soldiers weren't Nazis, but Larry was in the SS, and they say Otto wasn't, but he's wearing the deathheads thing on his uniform. I'm just trying to get my nazis in a row. Those "deathheads things" on his tunic were the symbol of the Panzer Corps. Yes, he was a Kraut. Yes, he was the enemy. But he was one Hell of a good leader and a killer with a Tiger tank wrapped around him. He killed a shitload of Commies, too. He's not a hero of mine but he was an outstanding tanker. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:59:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just google his name, theres one in a white uniform he doesn't have it, and one where he does have it in a blacl uniform where hes younger. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So I check this guy out, and theres a pic of him with the little SS deathheads on his lapel, did all German soldiers wear that? Link to photo? Just google his name, theres one in a white uniform he doesn't have it, and one where he does have it in a blacl uniform where hes younger. Ok, we get it. Your grandpappy kill'd natzees in WW2 and you want to make sure we all know that you hate natzees too.  |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 12:00:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/2/2015 12:00:43 AM EDT
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Ok, we get it. Your grandpappy kill'd natzees in WW2 and you want to make sure we all know that you hate natzees too.
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So I check this guy out, and theres a pic of him with the little SS deathheads on his lapel, did all German soldiers wear that? Link to photo? Just google his name, theres one in a white uniform he doesn't have it, and one where he does have it in a blacl uniform where hes younger. Ok, we get it. Your grandpappy kill'd natzees in WW2 and you want to make sure we all know that you hate natzees too.
Lol, you guys kill me! |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 12:01:00 AM EDT
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There's a famous newsreel that shows an officer sitting in the commanders hatch of a King Tiger as it drives in review of a column of King Tigers. I read where the officer is him. Most here at Arfcom have probably seen it at one time or another. That man in that film was not Lt Carius. It was a man named Lt. von Rosen. Carius as far as I know did not crew a Tiger II only Tiger I's. He did however serve in a Jagdtiger unit at the end of the war. Another poster asked about the skull and cross bones insignia seen on the collars of Lt. Carius. While the Waffen SS and Allgemeine SS did have the Deaths head insignia, the Panzerwaffe also used a similar insignia. The Panzerwaffe insignia was based off older Prussian death head insignia. People often confused the two due to ignorance between the different services. |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 12:12:58 AM EDT
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Sorry, I don't study Nazi Germany like some of you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I check this guy out, and theres a pic of him with the little SS deathheads on his lapel, did all German soldiers wear that? Not SS deathheads. The Panzer troops wore a skull and crossbones on their collar patches, but they were different than the Totenkopf SS troops patches. Look at the hat badges, Heer, not SS. The ignorance thing runs deep I see. Sorry, I don't study Nazi Germany like some of you. lol, you need to just stop digging. Seriously. |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 5:18:10 AM EDT
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$2 for the kindle version of the book. Never heard of him before, but I'll give it a try. Not $2 anymore. Must be a huge spike in downloads. |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 5:32:11 AM EDT
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Sorry, I don't study Nazi Germany like some of you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I check this guy out, and theres a pic of him with the little SS deathheads on his lapel, did all German soldiers wear that? Not SS deathheads. The Panzer troops wore a skull and crossbones on their collar patches, but they were different than the Totenkopf SS troops patches. Look at the hat badges, Heer, not SS. The ignorance thing runs deep I see. Sorry, I don't study Nazi Germany like some of you. Lol you should. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. I hate everything that Nazi Germany did and I don't have an anti-Semitic bone in my body (I would gladly go and fight for Israel, given the chance...they are God's people). But to say every German from 1939-1945 was a Nazi, or even that every soldier in the German military was a Nazi, is quite ignorant and narrow-minded. I actually used to think the same as you, but if you actually do some research, you'll find that quite a lot of German soldiers were just that...soldiers. Not Nazis, not concentration camp guards, just soldiers. For instance, do some research on Erwin Rommel. ETA: Oh and by the way, the Totenkopf ("death's head") was not originally an SS symbol. Its usage dates all the way back to the 1700-1800s. And as others have said, it was also the symbol used for the entire Panzer Corps. |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 8:14:46 AM EDT
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None of Carius's units were SS: 21st Panzer Regiment
Schwere Panzer-Abteilung 502 Schwere Panzerjägerabteilung 512 He was a draftee, lol |
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