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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:09:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FJ has the improved v6 like the four runner right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The only colorado I would get is the zr2 concept of it makes it to production. Even then I would wait to see how reliable it is. I had a tacoma before my fj and it was a good truck. They have their issues as well though. The stock rear suspension is crap and starts to sag over time. Mine had vibrations and a shutter on takeoff. Wheel bearings wear out easily too. Only get the v6 model. Keekleberry tried to warn me about the 4cyl and I should have listened. I now have an fj cruiser and love it. It's plenty powerful and they fit 33s stock. FJ has the improved v6 like the four runner right? |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:13:29 PM EDT
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The only colorado I would get is the zr2 concept of it makes it to production. Even then I would wait to see how reliable it is. I had a tacoma before my fj and it was a good truck. They have their issues as well though. The stock rear suspension is crap and starts to sag over time. Mine had vibrations and a shutter on takeoff. Wheel bearings wear out easily too. Only get the v6 model. Keekleberry tried to warn me about the 4cyl and I should have listened. I now have an fj cruiser and love it. It's plenty powerful and they fit 33s stock. FJ has the improved v6 like the four runner right? It has the dual vvti and the tacoma has the vvti. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:13:32 PM EDT
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Lot has changed since WW2... like we won and we were gifted with good, reliable trucks built in California that didn't need a government bailout. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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obama motors  I can play that game... "Pearl Harbor Bomber-yota"
Lot has changed since WW2... like we won and we were gifted with good, reliable trucks built in California that didn't need a government bailout. They got more of a government bailout than GM could've ever hoped for when we rebuilt their country and took over their military needs. Try again. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:14:40 PM EDT
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I bought a '15 4Runner and the interior as well as build quality is top notch. I see GM is still looking like they dragged their interior through a plastic catalog.
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:15:04 PM EDT
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I'll keep my F350 4x4
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:16:59 PM EDT
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Never buy a first model year of anything. I'm a slow learner and have regretted doing this twice. Please listen to this. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:23:23 PM EDT
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I've owned something like 6-7 Toyota trucks, and up until lately I thought they could do no wrong. Yesterday my brother was at the Toyota service department and sent me a picture of newer body style Tacoma partially disassembled (getting a new frame). I didn't know the newer ones had the same frame problem as the previous generation (95-04). I started doing a little digging on Google. There a bunch of horror stories about this frame debacle. Right now I'd be leery of Toyota steel. With that said, if I saw evidence that insured that this problem is a thing of the past I'd buy Toyota. But then the problem was supposedly fixed on the last generation (05-14) that are seeing frame replacements now.
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:30:54 PM EDT
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Oh good, a truck thread!
In on 2. 
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:33:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just sold a Z71 Colorado today for 38,255. How much is the Tacoma ? Keep in mind that our dollar is dropping and our prices are higher. A Canyon C/C SLT is 44,150. Another saleman sold the only one we had left today also. we had 6 last week...i think we're down to 1 now |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:36:01 PM EDT
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Never buy a first model year of anything. Yep - Particularly if the manufacturer still has reliability problems with models that have been in production for many years. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:50:28 PM EDT
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They got more of a government bailout than GM could've ever hoped for when we rebuilt their country and took over their military needs. Try again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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obama motors I can play that game... "Pearl Harbor Bomber-yota"
Lot has changed since WW2... like we won and we were gifted with good, reliable trucks built in California that didn't need a government bailout. They got more of a government bailout than GM could've ever hoped for when we rebuilt their country and took over their military needs. Try again. Well then.........Nissan FTW 
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:57:47 PM EDT
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Actually it was Mitsubishi not toyota
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:58:47 PM EDT
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<a href="http://s936.photobucket.com/user/Ativan30/media/Truck/Canyon2_zpsb50ybhll.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/Canyon2_zpsb50ybhll.jpg</a> <a href="http://s936.photobucket.com/user/Ativan30/media/Truck/DSC_0069_zpsi9flcu8u.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0069_zpsi9flcu8u.jpg</a> <a href="http://s936.photobucket.com/user/Ativan30/media/Truck/DSC_0046_zpssbej9hgq.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0046_zpssbej9hgq.jpg</a> <a href="http://s936.photobucket.com/user/Ativan30/media/Truck/DSC_0049_zpsuqencn4c.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0049_zpsuqencn4c.jpg</a> <a href="http://s936.photobucket.com/user/Ativan30/media/Truck/DSC_0064_zpsgobjbvur.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0064_zpsgobjbvur.jpg</a> BFD. GM vehicles always look great, they are just made like shit. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:59:21 PM EDT
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The Chevy/GM's always seem to have the nicest interiors. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/Canyon2_zpsb50ybhll.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0069_zpsi9flcu8u.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0046_zpssbej9hgq.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0049_zpsuqencn4c.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0064_zpsgobjbvur.jpg The Chevy/GM's always seem to have the nicest interiors. Because they spend all their money on looks and next to nothing on quality control. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:03:59 PM EDT
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obama motors I can play that game... "Pearl Harbor Bomber-yota"
Lot has changed since WW2... like we won and we were gifted with good, reliable trucks built in California that didn't need a government bailout. They got more of a government bailout than GM could've ever hoped for when we rebuilt their country and took over their military needs. Try again. Well then.........Nissan FTW *sigh* 
My neighbor across the street is a WW2 vet who was at PH when that shit went down. Sad hearing his stories. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:18:30 PM EDT
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Wait for the 2016 Tacoma.
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:46:51 PM EDT
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Because they spend all their money on looks and next to nothing on quality control. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/Canyon2_zpsb50ybhll.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0069_zpsi9flcu8u.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0046_zpssbej9hgq.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0049_zpsuqencn4c.jpg my parents have a Surburban with 260k miles on it. Borrowed it while I was car shopping. http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0064_zpsgobjbvur.jpg The Chevy/GM's always seem to have the nicest interiors. Because they spend all their money on looks and next to nothing on quality control. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:47:29 PM EDT
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Because they spend all their money on looks and next to nothing on quality control. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/Canyon2_zpsb50ybhll.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0069_zpsi9flcu8u.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0046_zpssbej9hgq.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0049_zpsuqencn4c.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0064_zpsgobjbvur.jpg The Chevy/GM's always seem to have the nicest interiors. Because they spend all their money on looks and next to nothing on quality control. GM's have the nicest interiors? What parallel universe am I residing in? |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:47:58 PM EDT
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http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/Canyon2_zpsb50ybhll.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0069_zpsi9flcu8u.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0046_zpssbej9hgq.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0049_zpsuqencn4c.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/Ativan30/Truck/DSC_0064_zpsgobjbvur.jpg The Chevy/GM's always seem to have the nicest interiors. Because they spend all their money on looks and next to nothing on quality control. My parents have a Surburban with 260k miles on it. Borrowed it while I was car shopping. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:36:08 AM EDT
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Never buy a first model year of anything. This. Get the toy. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:42:29 AM EDT
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Never buy a first model year of anything. The new Colorado has been in production globally since 2012, so the 2015 is not really "first model year." |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:43:54 AM EDT
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I had a Tacoma and while it was OK, the ride was bumpy and horrible. Now I'm on the 4Runner bandwagon and will never looks back.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:52:00 AM EDT
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I was looking at new trucks today and holy shit are they expensive. Looked at a couple GMC Canyon 4x4s, sticker price on one was 38k and another was 41k. Fuck
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:56:49 AM EDT
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The new Colorado has been in production globally since 2012, so the 2015 is not really "first model year." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never buy a first model year of anything. The new Colorado has been in production globally since 2012, so the 2015 is not really "first model year." The fact that some "factory" in Lower Elbonia has been using the locals as beta-testers for a couple years is no guarantee that LaWanda at Wentzville will be installing all 8 motor mount bolts any time in the foreseeable future...
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:21:23 AM EDT
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The fact that some "factory" in Lower Elbonia has been using the locals as beta-testers for a couple years is no guarantee that LaWanda at Wentzville will be installing all 8 motor mount bolts any time in the foreseeable future... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never buy a first model year of anything. The new Colorado has been in production globally since 2012, so the 2015 is not really "first model year." The fact that some "factory" in Lower Elbonia has been using the locals as beta-testers for a couple years is no guarantee that LaWanda at Wentzville will be installing all 8 motor mount bolts any time in the foreseeable future... Well, it is a UAW vehicle and build quality is directly related to how drunk/hungover/high the workers are that day. You really don't want one built the day after St. Patrick's Day, Super Bowl, etc. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 4:26:44 AM EDT
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The final straw in my cap was the happy birthday to 300,000 mile club for 2000 and older Tacoma's. Just do not see that on other boards
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:23:10 PM EDT
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It's time for a bit of truth, although most here won't like it. In the end, after you get over brand loyalty, either one will last a while with proper maintenance. I see a lot of people here on the gm bashwagon. Most of them probably bought the worst examples of reliability or a first year vehicle and had a few problems. I've seen plenty of late model as well as older gm vehicles go to 250,000 miles and beyond. I had a pickup with over 280,000 miles before a bearing went bad. I admittedly was young and didn't perform proper maintenance. I'd be wary of the Colorado since it's just been released.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:32:30 PM EDT
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Why does everyone here get so hard over 1/4 ton trucks?
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:39:53 PM EDT
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Never buy first year models.
Wait until the new tacoma comes out and buy one of the last remaining "old" model trucks |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:54:18 PM EDT
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Just look at resale value, that will tell you everything you need to know.
And get The Offroad Tacoma. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:48:24 PM EDT
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2015 Ford Raptor.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:52:57 PM EDT
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Never buy a first model year of anything. i belive the colorado design has already been selling in Asia for about 2 years, so it's not really "new". |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:59:41 PM EDT
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$40k for midsized trucks? Damn.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 4:03:49 PM EDT
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Just look at resale value, that will tell you everything you need to know. And get The Offroad Tacoma. just because morons will pay 19k for a 15 year old taco, doesnt mean its worth 19k if that was the case, I have 30 round mags available for $100 |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 4:12:10 PM EDT
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This. Deduct the difference, add it to the cost of the Chevy. Still worth it? That's money you're giving away. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Look at what a 2010 Colorado and what a 2010 Tacoma are worth today. This. Deduct the difference, add it to the cost of the Chevy. Still worth it? That's money you're giving away. Don't forget to subtract the $5k rebate that was likely on the Colorado back in 2010. That's easy to forget about when comparing resale values and should certainly be a part of the calculation. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 4:16:12 PM EDT
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Taco!
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Posted: 1/31/2015 4:23:09 PM EDT
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I don't know. I have TRD and it's been a maintenance nightmare.
At 90K I put new brake pads on it. Didn't really have to...probably 15K left on the original pads but I had it on the lift so screw it. Same for plugs. Replaced those at 88K . The original ones were still fine but I felt weird going 100K on original plugs. Other than that I change the oil every 5-8K with Mobil one. That's it. 108K on it now and it drives like new. It's painful driving a truck that all you do is get in and turn the key. I love to tinker and work on vehicles. I should have bought the Chevy so I could do major repairs every once in a while. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 4:23:26 PM EDT
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Wait and buy the diesel Colorado when it comes out Yeah, if it comes out. GM already pushed back the release by one year for unknown reasons. Watch for it to be taken off the table as an offering "due to lack of customer demand." |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 4:56:10 PM EDT
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GM 305hp 18/26 mpg 100k mile powertrain warranty Toyota 236hp 17/21 mpg 60k mile powertrain warranty The toyota will have a stronger resale, but it doesn't mean shit when you're pissing that money away in fuel and maintenance, the toyota has a higher cost of ownership. The resale value is also trending down and it's sales for 2014 were lower, that's going to lower resale and when the new model comes out it will lower the resale of the old ones. The GM truck will also have a much better transmission and up to date interior tech, 8" screen, wifi, and safety. If you buy the Toyota you will be paying top dollar for old outdated technology, there's a reason they're redesigning the truck with more power, better fuel economy, and technology. Where do I begin..... Never known anyone actually need a powertrain warranty on a Tacoma. I personally have needed a powertrain warranty on a GM truck. Yes American trucks look great new, but they just don't wear as well as a Toyota. Tacoma reliability is "legendary" for a reason, it's not just fanboi BS. The Chevy S10 / Colorado doesn't have a Fanboi club or great resale value, FOR A REASON. Purchase price, Colorados don't seem any cheaper than Tacomas, wrong there. At the end of the day the new Colorado is the latest version of what has been historically one of GM's most troublesome vehicles, the S10 / Sonoma / Blazer. It's rare for a car model to go from giant POS to awesome. Conversely most of the class leading vehicles today have been class leading vehicles for the last 20 years. You really need to look at resale values of Tacomas vs. Colorados, then minus 1 mpg. I think you will find your math is off. Tacoma maintenance isn't bad, oil, axle fluid and sparkplugs. Another erroneous statement. The new model 2005 + Tacoma has done little to lower the value of the 2004 and older model Tacomas, so that's an erroneous statement also. Current Tacoma also has about an 8in screen and bluetooth, etc with Intune audio package. I see a pattern emerging here. According to NHSTA safety ratings: Tacoma has overall 4 stars http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shoppers/5-Star+Safety+Ratings/2011-Newer+Vehicles/Vehicle-Detail?vehicleId=8154 Colorado is not yet rated http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shoppers/5-Star+Safety+Ratings/2011-Newer+Vehicles/Vehicle-Detail?vehicleId=9499 Outdated technology.......the 4.0 V6 and the 5pd Auto are old yes. But they work and work and work. New designs just don't offer the time tested reliability and longevity that the older designs have demonstrated. That's the driving design ethos behind this vehicle, reliability, longevity, off-road capability. Buying and selling cars every few years is, (after strip clubs and divorces) the dumbest thing you can do with your money. The design ethos and time tested ability of the Tacoma, allows you to be smart with your money and keep a vehicle a very long time. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 5:07:07 PM EDT
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Tacoma x 1000
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Posted: 1/31/2015 5:13:14 PM EDT
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Good looking rig, but I have always wondered how the blue fuck does one safely drive with one of those steering wheel covers on?
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Posted: 1/31/2015 5:14:35 PM EDT
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diesel colorado next year....and the new colorados can't be compared to the old ones
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Posted: 1/31/2015 7:09:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/31/2015 7:47:17 PM EDT
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1st yr model..............uuuhhhh, no thanks.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 10:08:15 PM EDT
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It's time for a bit of truth, although most here won't like it. In the end, after you get over brand loyalty, either one will last a while with proper maintenance. I see a lot of people here on the gm bashwagon. Most of them probably bought the worst examples of reliability or a first year vehicle and had a few problems. I've seen plenty of late model as well as older gm vehicles go to 250,000 miles and beyond. With enough repairs, just about any vehicle can go 250,000 miles. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 10:17:00 PM EDT
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Frontier. Better truck, less money.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 10:19:18 PM EDT
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Serious question here,
What is that trunk sized bed behind theese tacos and colorados supposed to haul? Flower pots and miracle gro? Just get a suv or minivan. Hell, a minivan could probably haul more $#it than any of those "trucks" 
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Posted: 1/31/2015 10:25:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/31/2015 10:52:37 PM EDT
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Why does everyone here get so hard over 1/4 ton trucks? Because all 1/2 tons are slushboxes and slushboxes are for old women and faggots. Good thing I drive a diesel then
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Posted: 1/31/2015 11:01:34 PM EDT
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No way I would buy a Colorado.
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