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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:55:52 PM EDT
[#1]
The EU is on borrowed time.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:55:59 PM EDT
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One of the weaknesses of the EU is that important decisions have to be taken unanimously. The newly-elected government of Greece is threatening to veto further economic sanctions against Russia because of the Ukraine situation. Greece has suffered from the sanctions (and the Russian counter-sanctions), because they have cut off a huge market for Greek agricultural products. Greece also relies on Russian tourists. Putin was among the first to send a congratulatory message to Tsipras upon his election. It's obvious, also, that the Russians want another warm-water base for their navy in the Mediterranean, since their Syrian base is so insecure. The president of the European Parliament, Martin Schulz, is in Athens right now to urge Tsipras to cooperate. The message he will take back to Angela Merkel is that if the Germans want the Greeks to cooperate in geopolitical matters, they will have to be more flexible on the Greek debt. http://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2015/jan/29/european-parliament-chief-visits-greece-as-bailout-row-grows-live-updates Obama also made a belated congratulatory phone call to Tsipras. The State Department must be sweating bullets that Greece will shift over from NATO into the Russian geopolitical sphere. The new Greek govenment is perfectly prepared to play hardball regarding the country's national interests. This is a dramatic change from the country's posture ever since WW2. Ahhh fuck it. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:56:47 PM EDT
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Given recent developments....
This is my shocked face. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:57:59 PM EDT
[#4]
Oh, yeah. The party is starting to get going now.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 7:53:28 PM EDT
[#5]
Well played.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 7:53:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The EU is on borrowed time. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 7:56:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The EU is on borrowed time. I look forward to another European war. One can only watch Crusade in Europe and Victory at Sea so many times. Those series' need a new season. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 7:57:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The EU is on borrowed time. For that matter, so is Greece. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 7:58:33 PM EDT
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Sounds like Greece is about to get kicked out of the EU. Have fun with being worthless.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 8:01:42 PM EDT
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I now cosider greece a hostile country. Hope they like their turkish friends.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 8:03:47 PM EDT
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Greece also just undid all the austerity measures put in place after their collapse and demanded that the EU forgive all of their debt for the bailout they were given.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 8:06:14 PM EDT
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Well, this should be interesting until the next Greek failed government.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 8:57:39 PM EDT
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Greece voted with EU to extend sanctions against Russia after a meeting with the foreign minister of Germany.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:00:52 PM EDT
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Russia is also saying it will finance Greece. If Greece goes, Germany may quit the Euro too.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:01:39 PM EDT
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The EU is on borrowed time. derp |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:03:19 PM EDT
[#16]
Stevie Wonder seen that comming.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:07:59 PM EDT
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Well, this should be interesting until the next Greek failed government. 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:10:51 PM EDT
[#18]
Greece is still a country?
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:15:16 PM EDT
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Russia is also saying it will finance Greece. With what? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:15:50 PM EDT
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Sounds like Greece is about to get kicked out of the EU. Have fun with being worthless. Now there's a plan. "Greece... you are the weakest link. Goodbye." |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:16:18 PM EDT
[#21]
IIRC, isn't the new Greek government communist?
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:17:15 PM EDT
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The big question.. can Greece get away with extorting the rest of the EU members. We are going to find out soon.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:18:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: derp Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The EU is on borrowed time. derp Agreed, the EU is not on borrowed time. It will continue to last for the ages to come, providing that European nations and relations don't fragment.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:23:51 PM EDT
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Greece voted with EU to extend sanctions against Russia after a meeting with the foreign minister of Germany. The sanctions were extended for six months, without a "qualitative" broadening (whatever that means). That brings us to the summer, just short of the Greek fruit harvest, and the peak of the tourist season. (The Ukrainian situation may be resolved in Russia's favor in those six months.) Martin Schulz, the German president of the European Parliament, just concluded his visit to Athens, in a friendly atmosphere. This tells me that despite the bluster on both sides, a deal is in the works. The "undoing of the austerity measures" so far has been on a symbolic level. The Athens stock market today recouped some of yesterdays's losses. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:28:51 PM EDT
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IIRC, isn't the new Greek government communist? Its a coalition government involving a left-wing populist party and a right-wing populist party. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_Radical_Left http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Greeks The Greek communist party is in parliament, but refused to participate in a coalition with Syriza. But by GD standards, yes, "communist". |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:30:06 PM EDT
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The EU is on borrowed time. Humanity is on borrowed time. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:33:34 PM EDT
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IIRC, isn't the new Greek government communist? Reading the biographies of the new Greek cabinet ministers, they're a hodgepodge of ex-communists, ex-socialists, nonpolitical academics, and conservative nationalists. What they have in common is opposition to the austerity measures and opposition to EU (read: German) meddling in Greece's affairs. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:59:45 PM EDT
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The Greek communist party is in parliament, but refused to participate in a coalition with Syriza. The KKE (the official Communist Party of Greece) are old-line Stalinists, and they never cooperate with anybody. They're tightly internally disciplined. They got 5.5% of the vote in this election, which is their typical percentage. People vote for the KKE mainly because their grandparents did so. Tsipras got his start in politics in the KNE, the youth branch of the KKE. But like many young people, he became disillusioned with it. There are much more dynamic elements of the Left in Greece, many of which are component parts of Syriza (which is an "umbrella" party). Bear in mind that the Nazis (Golden Dawn) got 6.3% in this election. While the KKE doesn't cooperate with anyone, no one will cooperate with Golden Dawn. So you have the two non-players in the Greek political system, at opposite ends of the spectrum, representing nearly 12% of the electorate. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:02:06 PM EDT
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Russia is also saying it will finance Greece. With what? Potatoes. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:02:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:02:28 PM EDT
[#31]
LOFL, where is that nelson Ha Ha pic... As much as I hate Putin and Russia in general the EU deserves this..
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:21:09 PM EDT
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I hope the EU learned its lesson and thinks twice before bailing out another useless pig. I don't even consider Greece a first world nation.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:25:25 PM EDT
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Russia is also saying it will finance Greece. With what? That was exactly my first thought as well. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:27:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For that matter, so is Greece. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The EU is on borrowed time. For that matter, so is Greece. ... even more so than the EU
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:30:02 PM EDT
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Russia is also saying it will finance Greece. With what? Probably with Russian prostitutes, because Greek women are not exactly nice to look at on average. 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:34:07 PM EDT
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Probably with Russian prostitutes, because Greek women are not exactly nice to look at on average. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Russia is also saying it will finance Greece. With what? Probably with Russian prostitutes, because Greek women are not exactly nice to look at on average. Russian whores work for dollars these days. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:44:23 PM EDT
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Russia is also saying it will finance Greece. With what? Rusty warships and vodka. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:47:35 PM EDT
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Now there's a plan. "Greece... you are the weakest link. Goodbye." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sounds like Greece is about to get kicked out of the EU. Have fun with being worthless. Now there's a plan. "Greece... you are the weakest link. Goodbye." Greece.......you're fired. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:52:12 PM EDT
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Potatoes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Russia is also saying it will finance Greece. With what? Potatoes. Want to hear funny Russki joke? What did man do with two potato? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:53:17 PM EDT
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Premise ridiculous. Nobody have two potato.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:53:58 PM EDT
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How about Greece sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults talk?
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:01:03 PM EDT
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Potatoes potato vodka. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Russia is also saying it will finance Greece. With what? Potatoes potato vodka. FIFY.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:06:15 PM EDT
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Premise ridiculous. Nobody have two potato. Yeah, I read Polandball too.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:07:10 PM EDT
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FIFY.
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Russia is also saying it will finance Greece. With what? Potatoes potato vodka. FIFY.
Russia so poor, make vodka in bathtub with sugar and bread yeast. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:09:44 PM EDT
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The EU is on borrowed time. More like life support |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:09:51 PM EDT
[#46]
I think it's pretty clear that Europe is just dysfunctional and that the USA has no choice, but to go in there, conquer it, and turn it into a US Territory.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:18:15 PM EDT
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The KKE (the official Communist Party of Greece) are old-line Stalinists, and they never cooperate with anybody. They're tightly internally disciplined. They got 5.5% of the vote in this election, which is their typical percentage. People vote for the KKE mainly because their grandparents did so. Tsipras got his start in politics in the KNE, the youth branch of the KKE. But like many young people, he became disillusioned with it. There are much more dynamic elements of the Left in Greece, many of which are component parts of Syriza (which is an "umbrella" party). Bear in mind that the Nazis (Golden Dawn) got 6.3% in this election. While the KKE doesn't cooperate with anyone, no one will cooperate with Golden Dawn. So you have the two non-players in the Greek political system, at opposite ends of the spectrum, representing nearly 12% of the electorate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The Greek communist party is in parliament, but refused to participate in a coalition with Syriza. The KKE (the official Communist Party of Greece) are old-line Stalinists, and they never cooperate with anybody. They're tightly internally disciplined. They got 5.5% of the vote in this election, which is their typical percentage. People vote for the KKE mainly because their grandparents did so. Tsipras got his start in politics in the KNE, the youth branch of the KKE. But like many young people, he became disillusioned with it. There are much more dynamic elements of the Left in Greece, many of which are component parts of Syriza (which is an "umbrella" party). Bear in mind that the Nazis (Golden Dawn) got 6.3% in this election. While the KKE doesn't cooperate with anyone, no one will cooperate with Golden Dawn. So you have the two non-players in the Greek political system, at opposite ends of the spectrum, representing nearly 12% of the electorate. Sounds like a pretty fucked up place to be living in. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:32:28 PM EDT
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Hope they like their turkish friends. It appears people missed your sarcasm. Or just do not know the hatred between the two. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:43:58 PM EDT
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Are there still Garands in Greece?
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:53:32 PM EDT
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Are there still Garands in Greece? 
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