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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:12:24 AM EDT
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It's not about Chris Kyle, it's about the family of the dead... Saying "out of respect for the dead" is the polite way of implying that. Bullshit. That money comes from the family if Kyle is breathing or not. Spare me the lame, half-baked excuses. You sound like a divorce attorney. Exact same robotic, humanity devoid tone. 
I guess he thinks attorney insults work, or something. I don't think the two guys in your avatar were attorneys. I'm just sayin'. 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:13:38 AM EDT
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An honorable man would let it go. Further, an honorable man would not make the statements that Ventura has recently made. Honorable men don't lie. Then there are no honorable lawyers.  You wasted post 24000 on this stupid comment. Pretty fair use of it IMHO.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:15:02 AM EDT
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It's not about Chris Kyle, it's about the family of the dead... Saying "out of respect for the dead" is the polite way of implying that. Bullshit. That money comes from the family if Kyle is breathing or not. Spare me the lame, half-baked excuses. You sound like a divorce attorney. Exact same robotic, humanity devoid tone.
I guess he thinks attorney insults work, or something. They do. The fact Shakespeare used them is an indicator.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:16:32 AM EDT
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My dislike for Jesse the Shit Stain has nothing to do with Chris Kyle case. It stems from the fact the Jesse claims to be a SEAL when in fact he was UDT; at the time the two units were separated with different local commands and compounds. The only thing they had in common was the BUDS training. Once BUDS was completed UDT went to the fleet and SEALs started a new and expanded training cycle before they went to the fleet. Jesse should be proud of his UDT service instead of trying to claim to be something he is not.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:17:33 AM EDT
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After reading up on Kyle and Ventura over the past year, I have come to the conclusion that I don't believe what either of them has ever said unless there is corroborating evidence.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:20:00 AM EDT
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Location, location, location. The trial was held in an area where Ventura was well liked.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:26:12 AM EDT
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They do. The fact Shakespeare used them is an indicator. Oh God they didn't teach you about Shakespeare. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:27:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They do. The fact Shakespeare used them is an indicator. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bullshit. That money comes from the family if Kyle is breathing or not. Spare me the lame, half-baked excuses. You sound like a divorce attorney. Exact same robotic, humanity devoid tone. I guess he thinks attorney insults work, or something. They do. The fact Shakespeare used them is an indicator.  That line wasn't intended as an insult against all lawyers. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:32:17 AM EDT
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Jesse Ventura and Michael Moore probably blow eachother. That or they are both amazingly impossible characters created by and acted out by Fred Savage. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:32:46 AM EDT
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Isnt Ventura basically not welcome at any of the SEAL/UDT association gatherings because of this?
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:33:10 AM EDT
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same reason innocent people are in prison, and guilty people arent
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:49:04 AM EDT
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When someone is murdered it tends to change that dynamic a bit. It's not about Chris Kyle, it's about the family of the dead... Saying "out of respect for the dead" is the polite way of implying that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He made public statements asserting his case before Kyle died, When someone is murdered it tends to change that dynamic a bit. why should he have any respect for Kyle after he died? It's not about Chris Kyle, it's about the family of the dead... Saying "out of respect for the dead" is the polite way of implying that. This notion of hillbilly jurisprudence that a suit should stop because a party dies is hilarious. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:50:54 AM EDT
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An honorable man would let it go. Further, an honorable man would not make the statements that Ventura has recently made. Honorable men don't lie. Then there are no honorable lawyers. You that butthurt about bombing the LSAT? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:53:21 AM EDT
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If it were me, and I had a beef with a guy, if that guy was killed I would NOT go after the guy's widow. 'Ventura' could have hugely improved his market share by making a big deal about how he was right all along, but in respect of the dead and in deference to the grieving widow, dropped the suit entirely. That he didn't proves he's a shitbag, and I want no part of his movies, TV shows, or any other appearance he may make in the future. You DON'T go after families. DON'T. What part of this is hard to understand? A beef between men? Fine. That's between them. So you'll drop any legal suit (defamation, battery, negligence, wrongful death) once the Defendant died? 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:55:13 AM EDT
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Well, she kinda did but then they found out at "ALL" really meant 2% in "kyle-speak" and he and taya pocketed about 3 million dollars. ETA- Here's the whole article about that debacle, it's kinda long so I'll hide it... Click To View Spoiler Actually, having set up a few non-profits, that seems like a perfectly valid excuse to me. The paperwork is a pain; but getting people to give you the information to fill out the paperwork is like pulling teeth. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:56:43 AM EDT
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If I remeber right there were a half dozen people who testified they had seen the altercation but weren't sure what it was over. Never trust a jury, they get it wrong lots of times. How much was JV reputation worth or harmed? He was a blow hard before. Can't see his image was damaged to the tune of 1.8 million bucks. All those witnesses could only testify to parts of the incident, most of them contradicted each other and most admitted to drinking. Then there is CK admitting the story in the book didn't happen the way he wrote. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:57:39 AM EDT
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They do. The fact Shakespeare used them is an indicator. Know how I know you're illiterate? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:58:23 AM EDT
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How the fuck did we get to Shakespeare!!??
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:03:28 AM EDT
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How the fuck did we get to Shakespeare!!?? Henry VI, part 2 | Act 4, Scene 2 |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:04:12 AM EDT
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How the fuck did we get to Shakespeare!!?? Henry VI, part 2 | Act 4, Scene 2
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:06:37 AM EDT
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How the fuck did we get to Shakespeare!!?? Because of illiteracy. Everything is bigger in Texas, even illiteracy rates apparently. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:09:06 AM EDT
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Did that woman's Hoo-Hah really sustain $1 million in damages by getting hot McDonalds coffee dumped on it? That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He won because his lawyers convinced a jury that he should win, which is the ONLY reason anyone ever wins anything in a court of law. Now, do you think that some harsh words and a punch in the nose is worth $1.8 million? None of it happened. I've been punched in the nose more than a few times, had people say some pretty horrible things to me, and have even been lied about many times in my life. Never did it cost me a single dime. Let's assume that Ventura is telling the absolute truth and that everything Kyle said was a lie. Is it conceivable to you that Kyle's telling this lie actually damaged Ventura to the tune of $1.345 million? How did Ventura's team figure out that Kyle made $1.345 million by telling that lie? Did that woman's Hoo-Hah really sustain $1 million in damages by getting hot McDonalds coffee dumped on it? That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. Yeah it actually did. Look up the case the woman suffered HORRIFIC injury. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:09:53 AM EDT
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Just to play devil's advocate.
I would really like to have the quotes of what Cris said before going forward. Id he say punched, or punched out, or decked... Jessie made a living being a "tough guy". "Tough Guy"'s get punched, but they don't fall down - they just keep going, and going. The entire event could have happened w/o Jessie going down (or even going down but not staying there), and saying he had a glass jaw would have hurt his reputation (almost as much as the lawsuit advertising what a cunt he is did). Second, he with the best lawyers wins - and iirc this was a civic case, so Jessie was awarded with a split jury. Third - the NO issue, every report given that I have heard has been hearsay. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:11:37 AM EDT
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I don't believe he was wrong. I believe the story of punching him was frabricated, unfortunately.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:12:41 AM EDT
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Guys, I do not know much about the case. All I know are the basics and that he won......and that the widow is appealing the decision. Is all of the Ventura hate due to the fact that the case was filed after Kyle's death? I do not claim to know. That's why I'm asking. Take it from me, our justice system isn't always right. I'd say its about 66%. It got this one wrong, apparently. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:14:53 AM EDT
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lolz The myths about that case will never die. Not going to get too much into it, but the woman suffered third degree burns and McDonald's had been ignoring repeated warnings about the temperature of their coffee for years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He won because his lawyers convinced a jury that he should win, which is the ONLY reason anyone ever wins anything in a court of law. Now, do you think that some harsh words and a punch in the nose is worth $1.8 million? None of it happened. I've been punched in the nose more than a few times, had people say some pretty horrible things to me, and have even been lied about many times in my life. Never did it cost me a single dime. Let's assume that Ventura is telling the absolute truth and that everything Kyle said was a lie. Is it conceivable to you that Kyle's telling this lie actually damaged Ventura to the tune of $1.345 million? How did Ventura's team figure out that Kyle made $1.345 million by telling that lie? Did that woman's Hoo-Hah really sustain $1 million in damages by getting hot McDonalds coffee dumped on it? That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. lolz The myths about that case will never die. Not going to get too much into it, but the woman suffered third degree burns and McDonald's had been ignoring repeated warnings about the temperature of their coffee for years. Not to mention that THAT particular machine when tested was dispensing coffee at an extraordinarily high temperature |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:18:36 AM EDT
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Dude told a lie to sell books. Said lie cost other dude money and resulted in liar gaining more money. Wrong was committed. Regardless of the unfortunate events following the suit, ventura's livelihood still took a hit whether or not you agree with his beliefs. But of course.... this America...where people are only okay if they believe the same shit you do. I'd say I think Ventura is an idiot...but no one will make it past the first three sentences without their panties getting in a twist and railing off on an emotional outburst about how I'm a bad American because I don't believe the hype on this silly shit. Dude did good shit in country. Tried to do good shit at home.... it's sad. JV being a retarded troofer & damn near incoherent in his ramblings hurt his livelihood long before the general public had ever heard of Chris Kyle. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:29:15 AM EDT
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Yeah it actually did. Look up the case the woman suffered HORRIFIC injury. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He won because his lawyers convinced a jury that he should win, which is the ONLY reason anyone ever wins anything in a court of law. Now, do you think that some harsh words and a punch in the nose is worth $1.8 million? None of it happened. I've been punched in the nose more than a few times, had people say some pretty horrible things to me, and have even been lied about many times in my life. Never did it cost me a single dime. Let's assume that Ventura is telling the absolute truth and that everything Kyle said was a lie. Is it conceivable to you that Kyle's telling this lie actually damaged Ventura to the tune of $1.345 million? How did Ventura's team figure out that Kyle made $1.345 million by telling that lie? Did that woman's Hoo-Hah really sustain $1 million in damages by getting hot McDonalds coffee dumped on it? That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. Yeah it actually did. Look up the case the woman suffered HORRIFIC injury. Yeah she had some terrible burns. As I remember from watching the documentary on it she had originally only asked for coverage for the medical bills, McDonalds refused, and a lawyer talked her and her family into going for gold. Very interesting story in regards to that area of tort law. I assume in JV chase his lawyers, like any lawyer would do, probably shot for an amount that was above the final number but was somewhat attainable and then hashed it out in court. I think it was shitty of him to keep fighting the case with the widow but he had every right to do so. He just comes off as a baby and a jerk. Why he focused on Kyle and then his estate so vigorously doesn't make sense to me either. He is suing the publisher but if he was as pissed as he claims about people making money off the defamatory story suing the publisher makes much more sense. First time authors really don't make that much with the deals they make with publishers Ive heard $1 a book is generous for first time authors with extra incentives paid only if the book sells certain numbers. I could see after paying taxes and book agents, etc, that JV 1.3 million suit, plus the cost of fighting the case, could wipe out most of what Chris Kyle's estate earned from the book's sales. His wife probably earned a decent amount selling the rights and hopefully, not super likely with Hollywood accounting, has made some money from the huge numbers the movie has done. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:33:15 AM EDT
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Where exactly did I say that? You're delusional. With or without winning that lawsuit, Ventura is going to eat, drink, have a nice roof over his head, and live a decent life. Given that, the choice to let the case go after a bloody murder occurs is an easy one, and yes, one I would make. You're an attorney, aren't you? I was one for decades, which is how I easily recognize an attempt to avoid answering a question. Answer the question: If you were injured by a reckless driver would you drop the suit and pay your attorney fees if the driver who caused the crash subsequently died? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:33:58 AM EDT
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Not to mention that THAT particular machine when tested was dispensing coffee at an extraordinarily high temperature About 190-200F, IIRC |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:36:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:37:51 AM EDT
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1) The estate could have issued a public apology, offered to cover ALL the legal fees. Then if JV kept pursuing it...
2) JV may have little dignity left, he still has the legal and moral authority to defend whats left. ( he's not the first person to continue a lawsuit after the principals death, he won't be the last either ) 3) My opinion of JV has no bearing, as I aint the one walking in his shoes. (he is not the same person I met so many years ago) |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:39:26 AM EDT
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Jesse may have been 100% correct. Chris was dead and Jesse continued the suit against the widow and orphans. If Jesse had a shred of manhood he would have dropped the case when Chris died.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:40:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:40:09 AM EDT
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McDonald's coffee lawsuit:
Highlights: Liebeck was taken to the hospital, where it was determined that she had suffered third-degree burns on six percent of her skin and lesser burns over sixteen percent. She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting. During this period, Liebeck lost 20 pounds (9 kg, nearly 20% of her body weight), reducing her to 83 pounds (38 kg). Liebeck suffered permanent disfigurement after the incident and was partially disabled for up to two years afterwards. ... Liebeck sought to settle with McDonald's for $20,000 to cover her actual and anticipated expenses. Her past medical expenses were $10,500; her anticipated future medical expenses were approximately $2,500; and her loss of income was approximately $5,000 for a total of approximately $18,000. Instead, the company offered only $800. When McDonald's refused to raise its offer, Liebeck retained Texas attorney Reed Morgan. Morgan filed suit in New Mexico District Court accusing McDonald's of "gross negligence" for selling coffee that was "unreasonably dangerous" and "defectively manufactured". Previously, New Mexico had never found for a Plaintiff in a product liability suit. Two scheduled mediations were not attended by McDonald's. McDonald's refused Morgan's offer to settle for $90,000. Morgan offered to settle for $300,000, and a mediator suggested $225,000 just before trial, but McDonald's refused these final pre-trial attempts to settle. ... During the case, Liebeck's attorneys discovered that McDonald's required franchisees to hold coffee at 180–190 °F (82–88 °C). At 190 °F (88 °C), the coffee would cause a third-degree burn in two to seven seconds. ... McDonald's claimed that the reason for serving such hot coffee in its drive-through windows was that those who purchased the coffee typically were commuters who wanted to drive a distance with the coffee; the high initial temperature would keep the coffee hot during the trip. However, the company's own research showed that some customers intend to consume the coffee immediately while driving. Other documents obtained from McDonald's showed that from 1982 to 1992 the company had received more than 700 reports of people burned by McDonald's coffee to varying degrees of severity, and had settled claims arising from scalding injuries for more than $500,000. McDonald's quality control manager, Christopher Appleton, testified that this number of injuries was insufficient to cause the company to evaluate its practices. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:42:09 AM EDT
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lolz The myths about that case will never die. Not going to get too much into it, but the woman suffered third degree burns and McDonald's had been ignoring repeated warnings about the temperature of their coffee for years. Seriously? When I buy a cup of coffee I expect it to be hot. Being a regular coffee drinker, I see this as a reasonable expectation. If I expect my coffee to be hot, I shouldn't be surprised of the results if I spill it on myself. However, if everybody started taking responsibility for the dumb things they do there would be a lot of unemployed lawyers. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:42:41 AM EDT
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Jesse "the mind" Ventura=asshole who made shit up all the time, spoke out of his ass, and demanded special attention because he was a SEAL (or at least felt that his training meant he can call himself one), and sued a widow while her husband's body was still warm. Actually not a SEAL, back in the day, JV went thru BUDS but not SEAL selection. JV was a frog man, not a SEAL. Apparently the SEAL organizations at the time felt that the then positive press the teams were getting from JV was a good thing and did not call him out. Or so I have read. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:42:59 AM EDT
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Jesse may have been 100% correct. Chris was dead and Jesse continued the suit against the widow and orphans. If Jesse had a shred of manhood he would have dropped the case when Chris died. He could have settled for legal fees. How does continuing the case have any reflection on his manhood? Ventura didn't "go after a widow", he went after the estate of the man who defamed him, just as if that man were still alive. Kyle dying didn't make the damage he caused go away, nor did it serve as compensation for that damage. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:43:50 AM EDT
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Where exactly did I say that? You're delusional. With or without winning that lawsuit, Ventura is going to eat, drink, have a nice roof over his head, and live a decent life. Given that, the choice to let the case go after a bloody murder occurs is an easy one, and yes, one I would make. You're an attorney, aren't you? I was one for decades, which is how I easily recognize an attempt to avoid answering a question. Answer the question: If you were injured by a reckless driver would you drop the suit and pay your attorney fees if the driver who caused the crash subsequently died? Might I suggest a presumptuous answer? Obviously the answer to your question is no but Texas is saying the damages to Ventura do not equal being severely hurt in an auto accident.................and, as a result, he should pony up and not take the entire award, etc. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:44:31 AM EDT
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Seriously? When I buy a cup of coffee I expect it to be hot. Being a regular coffee drinker, I see this as a reasonable expectation. If I expect my coffee to be hot, I shouldn't be surprised of the results if I spill it on myself. However, if everybody started taking responsibility for the dumb things they do there would be a lot of unemployed lawyers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lolz The myths about that case will never die. Not going to get too much into it, but the woman suffered third degree burns and McDonald's had been ignoring repeated warnings about the temperature of their coffee for years. Seriously? When I buy a cup of coffee I expect it to be hot. Being a regular coffee drinker, I see this as a reasonable expectation. If I expect my coffee to be hot, I shouldn't be surprised of the results if I spill it on myself. However, if everybody started taking responsibility for the dumb things they do there would be a lot of unemployed lawyers. Read the post above yours, before you start accusing other people of doing dumb things. 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:45:30 AM EDT
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My dislike for Jesse the Shit Stain has nothing to do with Chris Kyle case. It stems from the fact the Jesse claims to be a SEAL when in fact he was UDT; at the time the two units were separated with different local commands and compounds. The only thing they had in common was the BUDS training. Once BUDS was completed UDT went to the fleet and SEALs started a new and expanded training cycle before they went to the fleet. Jesse should be proud of his UDT service instead of trying to claim to be something he is not. Additionally Jesse expounds fruit cake ideas. Don Shipley (a known quantity in the SF world and a SEAL who actually had a long and prosperous career) says Jesse absolutely has the right to call himself a SEAL and that he doesn't know any other SEALS who think otherwise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeO1DUtnKsE |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:46:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:48:22 AM EDT
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Sure they're ridiculous judgments. The numbers aren't intended to represent actual damages though. So what do they represent? Isn't the point of suing someone the recovery of damages? I guess what astounds me is how Jesse Ventura can spout all this balderdash about "honor" and then go to the mat (if you'll pardon the pun) to take an incredibly disproportionate amount of money out of a dead man's estate. And by the way, who in the world is a professional wrestler of the 1980s to talk about lying or misrepresenting the truth? 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:48:36 AM EDT
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How the fuck did we get to Shakespeare!!?? Henry VI, part 2 | Act 4, Scene 2 Which line? All: God save your majesty! Cade: I thank you, good people—there shall be no money; all shall eat and drink on my score, and I will apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree like brothers, and worship me their lord. Dick: The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. Cade: Nay, that I mean to do. Henry The Sixth, Part 2 Act 4, scene 2, 71–78 IIRC, Mark Twain had some pretty good lines regarding attorneys also.
The thing NavyDoc posted is saying that in order to accomplish Cade's goal of abolishing money and forcing everyone to rely on Cade exclusively for their well being, they will need to kill all the lawyers. It's not being presented as an actually good option.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:50:04 AM EDT
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In this thread we learn about the dangers of hero worship. The next time you try to discuss Obama's failings with a true believer, think back to this thread and the rationalizations used. When anyone says "liberals are emotional and conservatives are objective" you should just laugh at such an emotional lie.
re: McDonald's & Coffee case. Read it. It was not about 'hot' coffee. McD's knew they were wrong, knew if for years, and did not care. The woman deserved more that she was awarded, and how about you look at how much she finally got? Instead, we get emotional responses based on ignorance. Also, the lawyers in this thread seem to be the objective ones, and kicking butt as well. IANAL |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:50:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously? When I buy a cup of coffee I expect it to be hot. Being a regular coffee drinker, I see this as a reasonable expectation. If I expect my coffee to be hot, I shouldn't be surprised of the results if I spill it on myself. However, if everybody started taking responsibility for the dumb things they do there would be a lot of unemployed lawyers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lolz The myths about that case will never die. Not going to get too much into it, but the woman suffered third degree burns and McDonald's had been ignoring repeated warnings about the temperature of their coffee for years. Seriously? When I buy a cup of coffee I expect it to be hot. Being a regular coffee drinker, I see this as a reasonable expectation. If I expect my coffee to be hot, I shouldn't be surprised of the results if I spill it on myself. However, if everybody started taking responsibility for the dumb things they do there would be a lot of unemployed lawyers. See my post right above yours. McDonald's totally has no responsibility for its own dumb actions, right? Nobody reasonably expects third degree burns from coffee being spilled on them. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:51:51 AM EDT
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The thing NavyDoc posted is saying that in order to accomplish Cade's goal of abolishing money and forcing everyone to rely on Cade exclusively for their well being, they will need to kill all the lawyers. It's not being presented as an actually good option.
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The thing NavyDoc posted is saying that in order to accomplish Cade's goal of abolishing money and forcing everyone to rely on Cade exclusively for their well being, they will need to kill all the lawyers. It's not being presented as an actually good option.
Here is a decent summary as to what that section in the play was going on about: Dick the butcher, a character no one remembers, utters one of the few memorable lines from the entire three-part Henry the Sixth cycle. Dick's Utopian idea to kill all England's lawyers is his addition to the promises of the traitorous Jack Cade, who envisions a quasi-communistic social revolution, with himself installed as autocrat. Cade alleges that all lawyers do is shuffle parchments back and forth in a systematic attempt to ruin the common people. His demagoguery is simply a calculated appeal to simple folks' longing to be left alone. Yet one may recognize Cade's moral failings and still sympathize with Dick. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:52:17 AM EDT
[#48]
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:52:26 AM EDT
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............. The thing NavyDoc posted is saying that in order to accomplish Cade's goal of abolishing money and forcing everyone to rely on Cade exclusively for their well being, they will need to kill all the lawyers. It's not being presented as an actually good option.
I was always better at math.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:54:49 AM EDT
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that whole fabricating stories thing.... that bugs me.
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