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Posted: 1/29/2015 4:41:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now I have a buddy at the ATF? The legend is getting larger than life, lol! Well technically, wouldn't any legend (however small) be larger than your life?  |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 4:52:28 PM EDT
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These are cooler than the Form 1 60mm mortars  Oh? http://webpages.charter.net/angwingnut/Mortar/5.jpg Do you use the 12 ga shot shells to propel your rounds or ?? DD's are awesome! I use 20ga roll crimped blanks that I roll my own. Did you post a thread on this? That is awesome! |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 4:52:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:01:07 PM EDT
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RockHard13F/Wingnut116ACW I guess I'm confused here. How is it you're able to legally fill your grenades? Use of EC Blank Powder as mentioned in this thread or black powder would require an explosives license? This was what initially got my first Form 1 denied- the misconception that I'd need an FEL. Per the explosives branch and law, provided no explosives are stored or transported an FEL is not required since it is not for commercial use. This is the same legal place tannerite falls- it isn't illegal, you just can't store the finished product. BP and EC Blank Fire are exempted from explosives regulations as small arms propellant. Using them for other than small arms propellant (such as for a filler) may change their classification (ala sig brace) to being regulated explosives. Still ok as long as you don't store or transport them at that point, but use them on site. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:04:27 PM EDT
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Tag...That's pretty cool
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:08:36 PM EDT
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I'd last 25 minutes after my Form 1 came back, because that's how long it takes to drive to my land. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Made by Rearden Armament, Jacksonville, NC. XM67A1, SN 001. Collectible someday? Pictures taken with a potato: http://oi57.tinypic.com/j5lbwi.jpg http://oi60.tinypic.com/2nc17r7.jpg I want to take it out and blow it up so bad...but damn that would be an expensive ($285) thrill. and this is why I will never own one. I'd give myself a month tops till I blew something up. Three days. I'd make it three fucking days.
I'd last 25 minutes after my Form 1 came back, because that's how long it takes to drive to my land. Pretty sure that adding in the time to get from ffl, +25 min, I've blown more than $285 at a titty bar in that time... Txl |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:08:42 PM EDT
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There was talk of that, and if acceptable, Wingnut could build bodies and reactivate fuses over and over... My gut feeling is the ATF is not going to allow "have your cake and eat it too" solutions like that. Wingnut? What was the consensus on being able to re-use the spoon as the serialized part over and over? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:14:44 PM EDT
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Well technically, wouldn't any legend (however small) be larger than your life?
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Now I have a buddy at the ATF? The legend is getting larger than life, lol! Well technically, wouldn't any legend (however small) be larger than your life?
and the fact he would have a buddy? He has GOT to be the loneliest person on earth rivaled only by the late Kim Jong - il |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:15:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never was the intended purpose of serializing the spoon, thus it was never pursued and should be left to die as an overall concept. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Do you have to inform the ATF prior to blowing it up as a heads up or only inform them once it has been blown up and no longer exists? The engraved spoon still exists... There was talk of that, and if acceptable, Wingnut could build bodies and reactivate fuses over and over... My gut feeling is the ATF is not going to allow "have your cake and eat it too" solutions like that. Wingnut? What was the consensus on being able to re-use the spoon as the serialized part over and over? Never was the intended purpose of serializing the spoon, thus it was never pursued and should be left to die as an overall concept. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:16:48 PM EDT
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There was talk of that, and if acceptable, Wingnut could build bodies and reactivate fuses over and over... My gut feeling is the ATF is not going to allow "have your cake and eat it too" solutions like that. Wingnut? What was the consensus on being able to re-use the spoon as the serialized part over and over? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 1/29/2015 6:04:40 PM EDT
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Never was the intended purpose of serializing the spoon, thus it was never pursued and should be left to die as an overall concept. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 1/29/2015 6:13:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2015 6:17:17 PM EDT
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Tagged for later.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 6:53:15 PM EDT
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Now I have a buddy at the ATF? The legend is getting larger than life, lol! Well technically, wouldn't any legend (however small) be larger than your life?
and the fact he would have a buddy? He has GOT to be the loneliest person on earth rivaled only by the late Kim Jong - il No, there is a long and distuinguished line of members here who follow everything I post. If anything, time alone is a respite from all the attention. 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 8:39:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now that would be an interesting case if you used that in a self defense situation. Hey guys, it's registered and if deadly force is authorized then the manner used is of no consequence right?......right? You'd be cleared but that would be national news all day long.Breaking news, two home invaders were killed today when the home owner threw a fragmentation grenade down his stairs after hearing a commotion. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 8:41:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:02:06 PM EDT
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I'm too chickenshit to try some explosive receipes and make hard bodies though 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:05:11 PM EDT
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One a month...
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:15:04 PM EDT
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Wish fuzes were easier to locate.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:25:01 PM EDT
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Wish fuzes were easier to locate. Sweet build, though! I couldn't find a single one. I am very interested in trying this out. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:31:48 PM EDT
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So what is the process with the NFA and a DD once it's Kaboom'd??
Do you just call the ATF and tell them to remove it from the registry, the parts are now part of the natural landscape? I've always wondered about that. 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:38:19 PM EDT
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Sadly, it is a heavy cast iron body, not the proper internal dimpled cast steel of thin wall construction like a real M67. But if you used a higher velocity explosive than the combat safe(er) comp B, the projectiles might be of sufficient number to make it effective. You see, the predecessor to the M67 was the lemon shaped style, using a coil of notched wire covered by a thin sheet metal case crimped over. It made hundreds of frags but was expensive. The 67 uses cast steel and a bit more explosive. M67s cost the Government 34.53 a piece |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:15:30 PM EDT
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Use of any binary explosive filler would require a Federal Explosives License ONLY for storage or transportation. Storage of black powder or any smokeless powder would fall outside the storage requirements as they are specifically exempt in quantities found in most households. In short, it only becomes an explosive DD when it is filled at the site of use. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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RockHard13F/Wingnut116ACW I guess I'm confused here. How is it you're able to legally fill your grenades? Use of EC Blank Powder as mentioned in this thread or black powder would require an explosives license? Use of any binary explosive filler would require a Federal Explosives License ONLY for storage or transportation. Storage of black powder or any smokeless powder would fall outside the storage requirements as they are specifically exempt in quantities found in most households. In short, it only becomes an explosive DD when it is filled at the site of use. Wingnut116ACW, I think a binary filler, such as Tannerite is the only way you can go. The fuzes you're using won't have a high enough velocity of detonation to set off something like Kinepac. Not sure I agree with you assessment on black powder. The ATF has long held that it is an explosive, but has exempt users from the requirements of licensing and storage for certain uses. Building a grenade would not constitute one of those uses in my opinion. Here's an industry circular from 2014 that has more info: https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/files/assets/Explosives/Industry/open-letter-black-powder.pdf With regards to smokeless powder, it's a similar situation, it's only exempt if it's being used for small arms ammunition. Having it for use in a grenade would require you to have a magazine and licensing. There's more info in the Federal Explosives Law and Regulations: http://www.atf.gov/files/publications/download/p/atf-p-5400-7.pdf |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:28:56 PM EDT
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I think a binary filler, such as Tannerite is the only way you can go. The fuzes you're using won't have a high enough velocity of detonation to set off something like Kinepac. Not sure I agree with you assessment on black powder. The ATF has long held that it is an explosive, but has exempt users from the requirements of licensing and storage for certain uses. Building a grenade would not constitute one of those uses in my opinion. Here's an industry circular from 2014 that has more info: https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/files/assets/Explosives/Industry/open-letter-black-powder.pdf With regards to smokeless powder, it's a similar situation, it's only exempt if it's being used for small arms ammunition. Having it for use in a grenade would require you to have a magazine and licensing. There's more info in the Federal Explosives Law and Regulations: http://www.atf.gov/files/publications/download/p/atf-p-5400-7.pdf It's not for use in his grenade - until the day he wakes up and decides he's going to use it in his grenade. Until then, he keeps it for all lawful purposes. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:37:36 PM EDT
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So when are you going to throw it, and when can we expect a hi-res video.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:41:51 PM EDT
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It's not for use in his grenade - until the day he wakes up and decides he's going to use it in his grenade. Until then, he keeps it for all lawful purposes. Which is a lawful purpose as well, but that's exactly it. Until the blackpowder makes its way into the body and a fuze is set atop the assembly, the blackpowder is exempt from the storage requirements. Same with smokeless, or any number of binary mixtures that would otherwise be on the explosives list published by the BATFE. The fact that it can be 'safe' and then 'loaded' in a span of less than 30 seconds is perfectly legal even if it does piss off the powers that be as they see it as exploiting a 'loophole'. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:56:28 PM EDT
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Which is a lawful purpose as well, but that's exactly it. Until the blackpowder makes its way into the body and a fuze is set atop the assembly, the blackpowder is exempt from the storage requirements. Same with smokeless, or any number of binary mixtures that would otherwise be on the explosives list published by the BATFE. The fact that it can be 'safe' and then 'loaded' in a span of less than 30 seconds is perfectly legal even if it does piss off the powers that be as they see it as exploiting a 'loophole'. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: It's not for use in his grenade - until the day he wakes up and decides he's going to use it in his grenade. Until then, he keeps it for all lawful purposes. Which is a lawful purpose as well, but that's exactly it. Until the blackpowder makes its way into the body and a fuze is set atop the assembly, the blackpowder is exempt from the storage requirements. Same with smokeless, or any number of binary mixtures that would otherwise be on the explosives list published by the BATFE. The fact that it can be 'safe' and then 'loaded' in a span of less than 30 seconds is perfectly legal even if it does piss off the powers that be as they see it as exploiting a 'loophole'. The only thing a loophole means is someone thinks what you're doing should be against the law, but it isn't. There are no loopholes. Something is either legal, or it isn't. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 12:06:05 AM EDT
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Oh fuck, Zaminsky's here. Probably already calling his "buddy" at the ATF and scanning for half full beer cans. 
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SN 001? Somebody Form 1'd a DD. $200 stamp $5 dummy greanade $80 of good time. Oh fuck, Zaminsky's here. Probably already calling his "buddy" at the ATF and scanning for half full beer cans.
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Posted: 1/30/2015 12:30:26 AM EDT
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SN 001? Somebody Form 1'd a DD. $200 stamp $5 dummy greanade $80 of good time. Oh fuck, Zaminsky's here. Probably already calling his "buddy" at the ATF and scanning for half full beer cans.
Just don't ask about the Sig brace he put on it. 
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Posted: 1/30/2015 12:40:44 AM EDT
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Wingnut116ACW, I think a binary filler, such as Tannerite is the only way you can go. The fuzes you're using won't have a high enough velocity of detonation to set off something like Kinepac. Not sure I agree with you assessment on black powder. The ATF has long held that it is an explosive, but has exempt users from the requirements of licensing and storage for certain uses. Building a grenade would not constitute one of those uses in my opinion. Here's an industry circular from 2014 that has more info: https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/files/assets/Explosives/Industry/open-letter-black-powder.pdf With regards to smokeless powder, it's a similar situation, it's only exempt if it's being used for small arms ammunition. Having it for use in a grenade would require you to have a magazine and licensing. There's more info in the Federal Explosives Law and Regulations: http://www.atf.gov/files/publications/download/p/atf-p-5400-7.pdf Quote HistoryQuoted:
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RockHard13F/Wingnut116ACW I guess I'm confused here. How is it you're able to legally fill your grenades? Use of EC Blank Powder as mentioned in this thread or black powder would require an explosives license? Use of any binary explosive filler would require a Federal Explosives License ONLY for storage or transportation. Storage of black powder or any smokeless powder would fall outside the storage requirements as they are specifically exempt in quantities found in most households. In short, it only becomes an explosive DD when it is filled at the site of use. Wingnut116ACW, I think a binary filler, such as Tannerite is the only way you can go. The fuzes you're using won't have a high enough velocity of detonation to set off something like Kinepac. Not sure I agree with you assessment on black powder. The ATF has long held that it is an explosive, but has exempt users from the requirements of licensing and storage for certain uses. Building a grenade would not constitute one of those uses in my opinion. Here's an industry circular from 2014 that has more info: https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/files/assets/Explosives/Industry/open-letter-black-powder.pdf With regards to smokeless powder, it's a similar situation, it's only exempt if it's being used for small arms ammunition. Having it for use in a grenade would require you to have a magazine and licensing. There's more info in the Federal Explosives Law and Regulations: http://www.atf.gov/files/publications/download/p/atf-p-5400-7.pdf You are putting too much thought into this. It is a serialized and registered empty piece of metal. Someday, the empty piece of metal could be filled with an explosive at the time of use. It would not be filled until that time and the items would not be transported as an assembled unit. A FEL is not needed unless he is STORING or transporting a filled piece of metal, which he is not. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 1:04:49 AM EDT
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Made by Rearden Armament, Jacksonville, NC. XM67A1, SN 001. Collectible someday? Pictures taken with a potato: http://oi57.tinypic.com/j5lbwi.jpg http://oi60.tinypic.com/2nc17r7.jpg I want to take it out and blow it up so bad...but damn that would be an expensive ($285) thrill. and this is why I will never own one. I'd give myself a month tops till I blew something up. Three days. I'd make it three fucking days.
I'm pretty sure I'd bring the components to the mailbox every day waiting for the approval. Not sure it would make it back up the driveway intact. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 2:39:18 AM EDT
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I'm pretty sure I'd bring the components to the mailbox every day waiting for the approval. Not sure it would make it back up the driveway intact. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Made by Rearden Armament, Jacksonville, NC. XM67A1, SN 001. Collectible someday? Pictures taken with a potato: http://oi57.tinypic.com/j5lbwi.jpg http://oi60.tinypic.com/2nc17r7.jpg I want to take it out and blow it up so bad...but damn that would be an expensive ($285) thrill. and this is why I will never own one. I'd give myself a month tops till I blew something up. Three days. I'd make it three fucking days.
I'm pretty sure I'd bring the components to the mailbox every day waiting for the approval. Not sure it would make it back up the driveway intact. Probably shouldn't efile then. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 2:42:08 AM EDT
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Made by Rearden Armament, Jacksonville, NC. XM67A1, SN 001. Collectible someday? Pictures taken with a potato: http://oi57.tinypic.com/j5lbwi.jpg http://oi60.tinypic.com/2nc17r7.jpg I want to take it out and blow it up so bad...but damn that would be an expensive ($285) thrill. and this is why I will never own one. I'd give myself a month tops till I blew something up. Three days. I'd make it three fucking days.
I'm pretty sure I'd bring the components to the mailbox every day waiting for the approval. Not sure it would make it back up the driveway intact. Probably shouldn't efile then. Yeah. About that. Last e-file for this grenade I'm aware of took less than 45 days. You aren't going to want to buy a half-dozen tax stamps for grenades. If you do, please budget an extra $20 per stamp to fund my follow-on ordnance projects 
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Posted: 1/30/2015 2:47:30 AM EDT
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Reminds me of the first time I saw a grenade dropped..... I have zero interest in owning one of these. 
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Posted: 1/30/2015 7:25:18 AM EDT
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these will have to hold me over till I do a bit more research. .
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Posted: 1/30/2015 7:49:29 AM EDT
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Three days. I'd make it three fucking days.
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Made by Rearden Armament, Jacksonville, NC. XM67A1, SN 001. Collectible someday? Pictures taken with a potato: http://oi57.tinypic.com/j5lbwi.jpg http://oi60.tinypic.com/2nc17r7.jpg I want to take it out and blow it up so bad...but damn that would be an expensive ($285) thrill. and this is why I will never own one. I'd give myself a month tops till I blew something up. Three days. I'd make it three fucking days.
Id make it 10 minutes after getting home with the spoon. 
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Posted: 1/30/2015 8:43:33 AM EDT
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I've been doing a hell of a lot of research on grenades this past week so I can add the correct markings. I have 3 dummies right now (M67, Mk 2 Pineapple, and a 40MM HE round) I just need an M26 Lemon grenade to round off the collection. I discovered I have the wrong fuse on the Pineapple, though. It has an M213 fuse from a M67. I'll post a pic when I get home. If your Mkii threads on a M213 then you do not have a real Mkii. It is either a trainer or a copy. The thread pitch is different. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 9:17:24 AM EDT
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holy shit I'd save that for a rainy day... +1 Lots of black clouds in these parts these days...... |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 9:32:25 AM EDT
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Cost breakdown: Tax Stamp $200 (This step included a number of letters back and forth with ATF, and coordination with both the explosives and NFA branch to show that I wouldn't be in violation of any laws.) Fuze ~$25 (if you can find one- some are classed with UN numbers that make them explosives regulated on their own, though there have been some manufactured as "articles pyrotechnic" and exempted from you needing an FEL to get one), or if you are incredibly stupid OR very confident, reload your own. Proper filler ~$20 (which I store separately from the grenade, or I would need to meet federal storage requirements and need an FEL), in this case EC Blank Powder as was used in WWII MkII Defensive Grenades (the "pineapple" grenade) NFA marking engraving $25 Make a mold out of a trainer or dummy and cast your own body $10 So...$285+/-. ETA I need to give props where it is due, Wingnut116ACW inspired me to do this build. He was the first guy I know of that did I form 1 for a frag. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How does one get a grenade for the cost of $285? I would buy at that price. Cost breakdown: Tax Stamp $200 (This step included a number of letters back and forth with ATF, and coordination with both the explosives and NFA branch to show that I wouldn't be in violation of any laws.) Fuze ~$25 (if you can find one- some are classed with UN numbers that make them explosives regulated on their own, though there have been some manufactured as "articles pyrotechnic" and exempted from you needing an FEL to get one), or if you are incredibly stupid OR very confident, reload your own. Proper filler ~$20 (which I store separately from the grenade, or I would need to meet federal storage requirements and need an FEL), in this case EC Blank Powder as was used in WWII MkII Defensive Grenades (the "pineapple" grenade) NFA marking engraving $25 Make a mold out of a trainer or dummy and cast your own body $10 So...$285+/-. ETA I need to give props where it is due, Wingnut116ACW inspired me to do this build. He was the first guy I know of that did I form 1 for a frag. You sir, win. 
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Posted: 1/30/2015 1:26:47 PM EDT
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You both have way more self control than I. I'm pretty sure if I had a legit grenade I would have blown it up the same day I got my stamp.
I think I'd want to go buy a cheap car off craigslist and go blow it up or something. Either that or go fishing like Ned on South Park.
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Posted: 1/30/2015 2:58:44 PM EDT
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You both have way more self control than I. I'm pretty sure if I had a legit grenade I would have blown it up the same day I got my stamp. I think I'd want to go buy a cheap car off craigslist and go blow it up or something. Either that or go fishing like Ned on South Park. But then, once it explodes, I am out one hand grenade. If I keep it unexploded, I get to be reminded that I was right in a bet with a stranger on the Internet! Actually, I will be getting a glass dome and a tasteful wooden base to keep it in on my desk a'la Ron Swanson's sawed-off shotgun. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:44:43 PM EDT
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If your Mkii threads on a M213 then you do not have a real Mkii. It is either a trainer or a copy. The thread pitch is different. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been doing a hell of a lot of research on grenades this past week so I can add the correct markings. I have 3 dummies right now (M67, Mk 2 Pineapple, and a 40MM HE round) I just need an M26 Lemon grenade to round off the collection. I discovered I have the wrong fuse on the Pineapple, though. It has an M213 fuse from a M67. I'll post a pic when I get home. If your Mkii threads on a M213 then you do not have a real Mkii. It is either a trainer or a copy. The thread pitch is different. Huh. Would never have known that. They are, indeed, trainers. Horribly made ones at that! The top of the Mk 2 is non concentric and slanted. I bought them from a bin of trainers at my local army surplus store. I happened to see that a couple of them had actual M213 spoons instead of the blue trainer ones so I nabbed them. I've painted the bodies and added the yellow band to the top of the Mk 2. I'm thinking about having a rubber stamp made to do the other markings since that would be the most accurate way AND would give me the capability to churn them out en masse. 
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Posted: 1/31/2015 4:40:34 PM EDT
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Huh. Would never have known that. They are, indeed, trainers. Horribly made ones at that! The top of the Mk 2 is non concentric and slanted. I bought them from a bin of trainers at my local army surplus store. I happened to see that a couple of them had actual M213 spoons instead of the blue trainer ones so I nabbed them. I've painted the bodies and added the yellow band to the top of the Mk 2. I'm thinking about having a rubber stamp made to do the other markings since that would be the most accurate way AND would give me the capability to churn them out en masse. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/image3392.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been doing a hell of a lot of research on grenades this past week so I can add the correct markings. I have 3 dummies right now (M67, Mk 2 Pineapple, and a 40MM HE round) I just need an M26 Lemon grenade to round off the collection. I discovered I have the wrong fuse on the Pineapple, though. It has an M213 fuse from a M67. I'll post a pic when I get home. If your Mkii threads on a M213 then you do not have a real Mkii. It is either a trainer or a copy. The thread pitch is different. Huh. Would never have known that. They are, indeed, trainers. Horribly made ones at that! The top of the Mk 2 is non concentric and slanted. I bought them from a bin of trainers at my local army surplus store. I happened to see that a couple of them had actual M213 spoons instead of the blue trainer ones so I nabbed them. I've painted the bodies and added the yellow band to the top of the Mk 2. I'm thinking about having a rubber stamp made to do the other markings since that would be the most accurate way AND would give me the capability to churn them out en masse. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/image3392.jpg yeah, your Mkii and the M67 are chinese clones.. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 5:01:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/2/2015 12:57:49 AM EDT
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Are there instructions anywhere?
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Posted: 2/2/2015 1:06:07 AM EDT
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lol this is awesome. interesting stuff you crazy bastards.
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Posted: 2/2/2015 1:12:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are there instructions anywhere? Are you violating the law by even asking that question from IL? |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 4:21:28 AM EDT
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Are you violating the law by even asking that question from IL?
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Are there instructions anywhere? Are you violating the law by even asking that question from IL?
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Posted: 2/2/2015 4:34:59 AM EDT
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and this is why I will never own one. I'd give myself a month tops till I blew something up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Made by Rearden Armament, Jacksonville, NC. XM67A1, SN 001. Collectible someday? Pictures taken with a potato: http://oi57.tinypic.com/j5lbwi.jpg http://oi60.tinypic.com/2nc17r7.jpg I want to take it out and blow it up so bad...but damn that would be an expensive ($285) thrill. and this is why I will never own one. I'd give myself a month tops till I blew something up. I was thinking the same thing. "I want one really, really bad...but I want my digits to stay attached more than I want a frag grenade." |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 5:26:40 AM EDT
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I lost track of Wingnuts thread. I have an overwhelming urge to start having half my check sent to the ATF for form 1s. Seriously a cool idea and I've I wasn't in debt up to my eyeballs with the whole wedding, new house, car, a d medical bills crap I would make one just so I can say I did it. I wonder if I can make a form 1 Stinger, LAW, or AT4......
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