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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:20:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After looking him up on google, I was better off not knowing who he was.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: are you telling me I am the only euro-coloured person lacking afro heritage HERE who has NEVER heard of benedict cumbersnatch? Seriously? Yes, you're the most culturally ignorant person. Congratulations. After looking him up on google, I was better off not knowing who he was.  He's a great actor.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:21:36 PM EDT
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I attended diversity training through my employer. The African American speaker ask if there were any questions at the end. Very first question he had obviously been ask many times. What is wrong with being called, colored, black, negro? Why do we have to address you as African American? His response impressed me, here's what he said. African American is the first name chosen by blacks. All other names have been assigned by others (white people). I respected his answer. 
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if you call a black person colored your either ignorant, racist, or both. It just sounds wrong. It's only wrong because blacks continually seek to change the language and any attempt to describe their appearance. Negro, then colored, then African American, then Black, then person of color, what's next? What's acceptable, that won't be in 10 or 20 years? The truth is none of those terms are pejorative, or mean, unless you want them to be. It's a description, void of malice, no different than white, caucasian, euro-skinned, whatever. You do think it sounds condescending as hell? Maybe I'm way off base here. Condescending? How? It's just a word that describes people with dark skin....how on earth would it convey superiority that any other word like black or person of color does not? The only way you can think it sounds that way is if you've been conditioned to think it's a sleight or inappropriate - but what about the decades when it was the proper term? That's my fucking point - in 20 years saying "black" will be seen as disrespectful but it isn't, and won't be, unless you want it to be. I don't think Caucasian is a great descriptor, it's woefully inaccurate to my cultural history - I'm not from the Caucuses nor share anything with anyone who is, but I know it's just a term to describe my racial appearance. Why should I make something of it, unless I'm thin-skinned and looking to be butthurt? I attended diversity training through my employer. The African American speaker ask if there were any questions at the end. Very first question he had obviously been ask many times. What is wrong with being called, colored, black, negro? Why do we have to address you as African American? His response impressed me, here's what he said. African American is the first name chosen by blacks. All other names have been assigned by others (white people). I respected his answer.
That kind of lessens the message of the Black Power movement of the 60's, 70's and 80's then. The boundaries were set by whitey still.... |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:25:42 PM EDT
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Has he received the Award for Most British Name Ever yet? It does sound kind of Imperialist doesn't it? Should have some title. Or at the least, tortured post nominal lettering. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:26:35 PM EDT
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Are colored people in UK known as African-UKians? African-Britons? What if they aren't from Africa? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tell the NAACP. He should start using "African Americans " lol Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Are colored people in UK known as African-UKians? African-Britons? What if they aren't from Africa? Unpossible. Black people only come from Africa and only left the dark continent through slavery. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:28:53 PM EDT
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They should change to the NAAAAP. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tell the NAACP. He should start using "African Americans " lol Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile They should change to the NAAAAP. Then it'd be pronounced "Nappy", and we know where that rabbit hole goes.... |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:31:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Growing up in the South, colored was a term of respect. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:34:15 PM EDT
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Tell the NAACP. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:36:15 PM EDT
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Bene-what Cumber-who? Never heard of 'er. Sherlock Khan. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:37:33 PM EDT
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What a Crazy Ass Cracker! Technically, that was true of his forefathers. But I doubt Sherlock is cracking a whip. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:42:11 PM EDT
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Tell the NAACP. He should start using "African Americans " lol Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I do t think European blacks qualify as African "AMERICANS" Lol people are just sitting around trying to get offended. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:43:49 PM EDT
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What utter bullshit.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:44:09 PM EDT
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You do think it sounds condescending as hell? Maybe I'm way off base here. Not really. It's an outdated term for sure, the issue is that there's a double standard here. Why is it socially acceptable for rap and hip-hop artists to use the word "nigga" in their works, but if a white person says anything remotely close to it, they're racist? There's a woman in my church that's 98 and grew up in Alabama. She once used the term "darky" to describe someone that worked for her parents. Oh noes. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:47:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2015 3:15:06 PM EDT
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Through their insecurity, blacks (black "leaders"?) eventually turn any term used to describe their race as derogatory. It's just like the term "Mexican". It's a perfectly descriptive term to describe someone from Mexico, but now it seems like the word is only spoken after a brief, uneasy pause. The racists are the people who try to turn these descriptive terms into racist terms.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 3:17:04 PM EDT
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Most blacks in the West are actually mixed, so the proper term is mulatto.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 4:54:07 PM EDT
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He's a great actor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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are you telling me I am the only euro-coloured person lacking afro heritage HERE who has NEVER heard of benedict cumbersnatch? Seriously? Yes, you're the most culturally ignorant person. Congratulations. After looking him up on google, I was better off not knowing who he was.
He's a great actor. What does it mean when a man either doesn't, or can't, keep up with the cutting edge of popular culture? Maybe I normally do but for a couple of years have gone through some tough times. Yall keep up with this crap like 16 year old girls. Go on. I'll be over here talking with the adults. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:01:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What does it mean when a man either doesn't, or can't, keep up with the cutting edge of popular culture? Maybe I normally do but for a couple of years have gone through some tough times. Yall keep up with this crap like 16 year old girls. Go on. I'll be over here talking with the adults. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: are you telling me I am the only euro-coloured person lacking afro heritage HERE who has NEVER heard of benedict cumbersnatch? Seriously? Yes, you're the most culturally ignorant person. Congratulations. After looking him up on google, I was better off not knowing who he was. He's a great actor. What does it mean when a man either doesn't, or can't, keep up with the cutting edge of popular culture? Maybe I normally do but for a couple of years have gone through some tough times. Yall keep up with this crap like 16 year old girls. Go on. I'll be over here talking with the adults. It's not exactly cutting edge culture, he's not an avante garde performance artist - the man has been in a dozen very high profile movies, all over TV in critically acclaimed ADULT-themed television, talk shows, etc, and even mentioned here on this site. He just starred in an outstanding movie about Alan Turing (google that) that may garner him an Oscar (google Oscar while you're at it). I don't think I've seen a Tyler Perry movie, in fact I'm sure I haven't, but I know who the man is for fuck's sake and if I didn't I wouldn't proudly profess it in a thread about him. I would look it up, if I felt compelled to comment on a story about the guy. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:06:28 PM EDT
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Are colored people in UK known as African-UKians? African-Britons? What if they aren't from Africa? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tell the NAACP. He should start using "African Americans " lol Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Are colored people in UK known as African-UKians? African-Britons? What if they aren't from Africa? Meh. I'm not from the Caucasus either. 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:09:15 PM EDT
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When I was a kid-------a long fucking time ago--------"colored" was the accepted POLITE name for blacks. Sooo.........does that make me a racist by default??? because I'm old????because I remember???? I really,REALLY don't give a fuck how you label me. I suppose if that makes you and old racist bastard then we should start a club. Your description fits me as well. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:15:36 PM EDT
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I don't know why anyone is surprised.
The word "niggardly," which has a completely different etymology, has basically been proscribed in public speech simply because it is a homophone of the ineffable slur. Stupidity and indignation reign supreme.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:22:33 PM EDT
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Does anyone know what the most "correct" term used for Black people who are not from the US? (Serious question)
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:48:06 PM EDT
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This is an example of shooting themselves in the foot.
Race relations will never be good and peaceful until both "sides" no longer have to be walking on egg shells to not offend the other side. This constant histrionics at every little thing... and things which don't make even the slightest bit of sense... such as being referred to politely... which the term colored is the polite way to refer to these people... sabotages the cause. There is no longer racism when people are race blind... when descriptions are just that and carry no animosity... when no race is treated any differently than any other... The constant offense taking perpetuates racism. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:53:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does anyone know what the most "correct" term used for Black people who are not from the US? (Serious question) Black, according to my co-worker who is from Trinidad.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:56:27 PM EDT
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When I was in the UK 30 years ago Black was fighting words. It was an insult. N@&&$r was considered cute. The use of Coloured was for mixed race people. Black were referred to as Jamacain or Nigerian whatever the path that led them to the UK.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 6:00:36 PM EDT
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what about Wiggers do they have those in UK Chavs. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 6:04:09 PM EDT
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Does anyone know what the most "correct" term used for Black people who are not from the US? (Serious question) African American. 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 6:16:47 PM EDT
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http://www.oregonlive.com/movies/2015/01/benedict_cumberbatch_apologize.html But in making his point, Cumberbatch said, "I think as far as colored actors go, it gets really different in the U.K., and a lot of my friends have had more opportunities" in the U.S. than in the U.K., "and that's something that needs to change." Klan motherfucker! 
I'm devastated to have caused offense by using this outmoded terminology. I offer my sincere apologies. I make no excuse for my being an idiot and know the damage is done. I can only hope this incident will highlight the need for correct usage of terminology that is accurate and inoffensive. The most shaming aspect of this for me is that I was talking about racial inequality in the performing arts in the U.K. and the need for rapid improvements in our industry when I used the term." Cumberbatch added, "I feel the complete fool I am and while I am sorry to have offended people and to learn from my mistakes in such a public manner please be assured I have. I apologize again to anyone who I offended for this thoughtless use of inappropriate language about an issue which affects friends of mine and which I care about deeply." USA Today reported that this was "doubly embarrassing for Cumberbatch" because his family's ancestors include slave owners in Barbados.-SLAVER BASTARD!!! Tumblr based PTSD 
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Posted: 1/30/2015 1:03:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not exactly cutting edge culture, he's not an avante garde performance artist - the man has been in a dozen very high profile movies, all over TV in critically acclaimed ADULT-themed television, talk shows, etc, and even mentioned here on this site. He just starred in an outstanding movie about Alan Turing (google that) that may garner him an Oscar (google Oscar while you're at it). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes, you're the most culturally ignorant person. Congratulations. After looking him up on google, I was better off not knowing who he was. He's a great actor. What does it mean when a man either doesn't, or can't, keep up with the cutting edge of popular culture? Maybe I normally do but for a couple of years have gone through some tough times. Yall keep up with this crap like 16 year old girls. Go on. I'll be over here talking with the adults. It's not exactly cutting edge culture, he's not an avante garde performance artist - the man has been in a dozen very high profile movies, all over TV in critically acclaimed ADULT-themed television, talk shows, etc, and even mentioned here on this site. He just starred in an outstanding movie about Alan Turing (google that) that may garner him an Oscar (google Oscar while you're at it). I don't think I've seen a Tyler Perry movie, in fact I'm sure I haven't, but I know who the man is for fuck's sake and if I didn't I wouldn't proudly profess it in a thread about him. I would look it up, if I felt compelled to comment on a story about the guy. Yeah but it's so cool and edgy to proudly profess ignorance about such things. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 1:29:13 PM EDT
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Obama used the term colored too, at least in the context of the NAACP. And his ancestors were likely slave owners (his dad's side certainly has someone who sold slaves to the Europeans).
Where is Obama's apology for being racist? |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 7:31:24 PM EDT
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Obama used the term colored too, at least in the context of the NAACP. And his ancestors were likely slave owners (his dad's side certainly has someone who sold slaves to the Europeans). Where is Obama's apology for being racist? I thought his dad was from Kenya? 
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Posted: 1/30/2015 7:34:45 PM EDT
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Obama used the term colored too, at least in the context of the NAACP. And his ancestors were likely slave owners (his dad's side certainly has someone who sold slaves to the Europeans). Where is Obama's apology for being racist? I thought his dad was from Kenya? Who do you think brought the African Slaves to the coast? Hint: they didn't look like a Swede. The Luo people of his father we're know slavers. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 7:37:58 PM EDT
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Who do you think brought the African Slaves to the coast? Hint: they didn't look like a Swede. The Luo people of his father we're know slavers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Obama used the term colored too, at least in the context of the NAACP. And his ancestors were likely slave owners (his dad's side certainly has someone who sold slaves to the Europeans). Where is Obama's apology for being racist? I thought his dad was from Kenya? Who do you think brought the African Slaves to the coast? Hint: they didn't look like a Swede. The Luo people of his father we're know slavers. I thought most American slaves came from the west coast? |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 8:10:49 PM EDT
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I thought most American slaves came from the west coast? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Obama used the term colored too, at least in the context of the NAACP. And his ancestors were likely slave owners (his dad's side certainly has someone who sold slaves to the Europeans). Where is Obama's apology for being racist? I thought his dad was from Kenya? Who do you think brought the African Slaves to the coast? Hint: they didn't look like a Swede. The Luo people of his father we're know slavers. I thought most American slaves came from the west coast? They did. What is Kenya today was part of the continent supplying the Arab slave trade. The one that preceded the Trans-Atlantic slave trade route by a thousand years.
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Posted: 1/30/2015 8:13:03 PM EDT
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They did. What is Kenya today was part of the continent supplying the Arab slave trade. The one that preceded the Trans-Atlantic slave trade route by a thousand years.
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Obama used the term colored too, at least in the context of the NAACP. And his ancestors were likely slave owners (his dad's side certainly has someone who sold slaves to the Europeans). Where is Obama's apology for being racist? I thought his dad was from Kenya? Who do you think brought the African Slaves to the coast? Hint: they didn't look like a Swede. The Luo people of his father we're know slavers. I thought most American slaves came from the west coast? They did. What is Kenya today was part of the continent supplying the Arab slave trade. The one that preceded the Trans-Atlantic slave trade route by a thousand years.
True, although most of the Arab traders got their slaves further north. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 8:15:12 PM EDT
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Nobody called to apologize for calling me Crackah, or Honky, or HeyWhiteBoy....
Whiteman's burden I guess..
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:57:23 PM EDT
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so,
black entertainment television united negro college fund national association for the advancement of colored people are all also racist?
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:02:13 PM EDT
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National Association for the Advancement of Can't Say That Word People.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:27:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: if you call a black person colored your either ignorant, racist, or both. It just sounds wrong. What am I supposed to do when colored people decide that being called "black" is the worst thing ever? I can't fucking keep up with this shit, and I don't really care to either. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:57:29 AM EDT
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But it WOULDN'T be racist if I, as a Caucasian, started referring to myself as "Uncolored," right? I'm taking it back! It's the wrong way round if you think about it - black is the absence of color, white is made up of all the colors, so white people are really the "People of Color" |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:44:19 PM EDT
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It's the wrong way round if you think about it - black is the absence of color, white is made up of all the colors, so white people are really the "People of Color" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But it WOULDN'T be racist if I, as a Caucasian, started referring to myself as "Uncolored," right? I'm taking it back! It's the wrong way round if you think about it - black is the absence of color, white is made up of all the colors, so white people are really the "People of Color" I'm a fucking rainbow of diversity friend. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:55:41 PM EDT
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It's the wrong way round if you think about it - black is the absence of color, white is made up of all the colors, so white people are really the "People of Color" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But it WOULDN'T be racist if I, as a Caucasian, started referring to myself as "Uncolored," right? I'm taking it back! It's the wrong way round if you think about it - black is the absence of color, white is made up of all the colors, so white people are really the "People of Color" In light, white is the presence of all colors, in pigment, it is the absence of color. I think light would take precedence, yes. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:57:25 PM EDT
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Webster now says "sometimes offensive." I did not know that. Is that because it implies the subject may be an inky?
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:57:49 PM EDT
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Has anyone made a meme out of this yet? I can't help but literally laugh out loud that he was white knighting about the oppression of black people and got e-lynched for using the wrong descriptive term.
What a shit show we live in these days. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:59:11 PM EDT
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Once again, only black people can say it.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It beat the only other term in those days. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Growing up in the South, colored was a term of respect.  |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:22:38 PM EDT
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On that note.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:41:52 PM EDT
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This is one of those "who cares" subjects.
Technically BLACK IS NOT a color. Black is the complete absence of color. White is the presence of all colors simultaneously. Nobody is really Black or White. But shades of different Primary Colors combined. Black and White, ARE NOT Primary Colors. So There! Argue about something that really matters! 
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:17:06 PM EDT
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I'm a color. I prefer it to being colorless.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:28:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is one of those "who cares" subjects. Technically BLACK IS NOT a color. Black is the complete absence of color. White is the presence of all colors simultaneously. Nobody is really Black or White. But shades of different Primary Colors combined. Black and White, ARE NOT Primary Colors. So There! Argue about something that really matters! |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:31:15 PM EDT
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Growing up in the South, colored was a term of respect. Yep, and much better than what they were called by a lot of people. Family had a lot of slaves back in the day, was told one time by my ultra-liberal/feminist/socialist/obummer-loving history professor that I should feel guilty and ashamed because of it. I laughed at her and I think her head nearly exploded. 
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