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Quoted: Once Canada starts doling out 1000 lashes and doing cross amputations with religious police, you might have an argument when it comes to free speech. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Regardless of what happens on this forum, it's still an exercise in free speech. The same behavior would be illegal and punishable by death in Saudi Arabia as their constitution is based on the Koran and Sharia law. Once Canada starts doling out 1000 lashes and doing cross amputations with religious police, you might have an argument when it comes to free speech. |
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Nuke their oil fields, not the people.
Radioactive oil will not sell. They wont be able to safely work the fields for a few hundred (or thousand) years.....end of extremist Muslim terrorist funding Just kidding. Kind of.... |
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Quoted: So fining people and forcing them to take down websites is okay as long as a crowd doesn't gather to throw rocks at you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Regardless of what happens on this forum, it's still an exercise in free speech. The same behavior would be illegal and punishable by death in Saudi Arabia as their constitution is based on the Koran and Sharia law. Once Canada starts doling out 1000 lashes and doing cross amputations with religious police, you might have an argument when it comes to free speech. It's no better here, America's "free speech" are words on paper with little to back it up unless you're wealthy, and even then you'll be hounded to the ends of the earth. Donald Sterling is a fine example. Speech is free until you piss off the wrong people, then you'll find that it's quite costly. And some of the "wrong people" work for the government. Piss them off and they'll send one or more of the alphabet agencies after you, and when their persecution of you goes public they'll handily "lose" all the inter agency and inter personnel communications that would turn the tables on them. You're fucked and they're still collecting a .gov pension. Yea, we can say FBHO all day long, but don't kid yourself into thinking that any part of the consititution will protect you if they come after you.
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Quoted: I would say that it is possible to get locked for saying shit about other religions and that sea lawyering will not get you out of it. I have had this discussion numerous times about Mormons, and to a lesser extent Catholics. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Is it really Denigrating to Islam; if all you have to do is quote the historical acts chronicled and often glorified in their own book? |
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Quoted: The irony is you have made comments and attacked religions you attacked me "see SIGLINE". You equated me to a bunch of murdering commies and bashed my religious views. By your own admission you should of got a time out if not a total ban. I have brought this up numerous times it seems other mods do not want to ban you for your inappropriate comments towards me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is it really Denigrating to Islam; if all you have to do is quote the historical acts chronicled and often glorified in their own book? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is it really Denigrating to Islam; if all you have to do is quote the historical acts chronicled and often glorified in their own book? If you are incapable to see that what he said was not and as a compliment but an attack than I do not know what to tell you. But his comment is far worse than many that are getting threads locked. |
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Quoted: Well, Iraq did attack us first. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/USS_Stark.jpg/1024px-USS_Stark.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: In the first Gulf War, my entire submarine came to the conclusion that we were attacking the wrong country. We should have let Saddam roll over the Saudis and cut a deal with him. Not much has changed in 2 decades. Until we stop the flow of Saudi oil money to fund terrorism, our struggles with Islamic terrorism will continue. Well, Iraq did attack us first. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/USS_Stark.jpg/1024px-USS_Stark.jpg In the Persian Gulf, the 17th of May 1987, the USS Stark is hit by two Iraqi Exocet missiles within 30 seconds. 37 sailors are killed so did Israel, we never invaded them. and it was during a war, and sometimes shit happens in a war. Just ask the captain of the Vincennes..... |
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Quoted: The irony is you have made comments and attacked religions you attacked me "see SIGLINE". You equated me to a bunch of murdering commies and bashed my religious views. By your own admission you should of got a time out if not a total ban. I have brought this up numerous times it seems other mods do not want to ban you for your inappropriate comments towards me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is it really Denigrating to Islam; if all you have to do is quote the historical acts chronicled and often glorified in their own book? Creationism isn't a religion. The majority of Christians are not creationists. Making fun of creationists does not equal making fun of Christians. If you actually are a creationist, then you have a belief that opens you up for ridicule. I believe the Bible even has a verse to cover you when people call you names for your beliefs. I suggest you take it to heart, have a coke and a smile, and stfu. If you haven't already reported him, then you don't have much room to bitch. If you did report him and nothing came of it, its because the owners of the site think his statement is within the COC. Again, you don't have much room to bitch. This is at least the 3rd time I've seen you whine about it. Let it fucking be. eta: love the pic Aimless posted |
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The majority of Christians are not creationists. Making fun of creationists does not equal making fun of Christians. View Quote I edited the quote of your post for brevity. It does not change the context. Perhaps you could explain the text in red. If the majority of Christians are not creationists, then what are they? |
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This, I just don't get. ETA: Your site, your rules and all, but I can't help but thinking Site Staff would do well to explain some of the rationale behind the application of COC 1 to Islam threads. Would similarly critical threads of, say, Scientology be locked? If not, why not? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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IBTL As of late even clearly non COC threads dealing with islam have been locked http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1710927_Pope__Christians_and_Muslims_should_learn_more_about_each_other.html&light=pope http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1707312_Muslim_call_to_prayer_to_sound_at_Duke_University.html&page=6 http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1706959_Pelosi_to_name_first_Muslim_lawmaker_to_House_intelligence_committee.html&page=2 This, I just don't get. ETA: Your site, your rules and all, but I can't help but thinking Site Staff would do well to explain some of the rationale behind the application of COC 1 to Islam threads. Would similarly critical threads of, say, Scientology be locked? If not, why not? Perhaps they have been threaten with liable allowing the defamation of Islam or the prophet to go unchecked on their site? |
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If the majority of Christians are not creationists, then what are they? Educated? You aren't who I was replying to, but don't be shy. Go ahead and tell us, what do the majority of Christians believe about creationism? |
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Quoted: Most likely because a couple of dipshits always show up in a thread like this and take it to stupid levels. It's perfectly valid to say that the guy in that video should be taken out back and shot because he's a terrorist supporting asshole. It's not perfectly valid to say that all muslims should be taken out back and shot. Saudi Arabia's primary exports are oil and radical islamist bullshit. They're not our buddies...they're a repressive shithole with a 13th century philosophy and too much money that they've used to export bullshit poison evidenced in that video around the globe. Fuck their government and their king. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Mods and Site Staff are really deleting threads criticizing muslims? Or is my sarcasm meter in need of calibration? There have been a few threads on the subject that vanished all together. One from last night, which I posted in repeatedly, is simply gone now. Not locked, gone. Most likely because a couple of dipshits always show up in a thread like this and take it to stupid levels. It's perfectly valid to say that the guy in that video should be taken out back and shot because he's a terrorist supporting asshole. It's not perfectly valid to say that all muslims should be taken out back and shot. Saudi Arabia's primary exports are oil and radical islamist bullshit. They're not our buddies...they're a repressive shithole with a 13th century philosophy and too much money that they've used to export bullshit poison evidenced in that video around the globe. Fuck their government and their king. That "out back" would be pretty large...might take a while. Logistics would definitely be problematic. Nick |
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You aren't who I was replying to, but don't be shy. Go ahead and tell us, what do the majority of Christians believe about creationism? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If the majority of Christians are not creationists, then what are they? Educated? You aren't who I was replying to, but don't be shy. Go ahead and tell us, what do the majority of Christians believe about creationism? While I can't speak for all of us; I could sum it up as "You're wrong". |
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From their point of view they are absolutely right. Fire, pain and death are the only things that will convince us that they mean to limit our freedom based on their religious beliefs. Maybe it's time we understood their message and took it to heart. View Quote interesting point. Comedy Central (in)famously self-censored in 2007 or so, when South Park creators wanted to make fun of Mohammed, after the Danish cartoon violence had occurred. this is the same show that has shown Buddha snorting coke, Jesus watch porn, Jesus defecating on GW Bush, etc. yet they censored much of epiode #201. Mohammed was shown as only a black box, whenever he appeared in the episode. Wikpedia link to episode 201 picture: ending to censored South Park episode #201, leaked to internet some years later: |
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Quoted: I just like that US chick with a Ar-15 that gives out her home adress as she burns the Koran. Its the only language Saudi imams understand http://www.hyscience.com/ann-barnhardt.jpg%20w%3D202.jpg View Quote Ann Barnhardt has more balls than anybody I have ever met.
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While I can't speak for all of us; I could sum it up as "You're wrong". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If the majority of Christians are not creationists, then what are they? Educated? You aren't who I was replying to, but don't be shy. Go ahead and tell us, what do the majority of Christians believe about creationism? While I can't speak for all of us; I could sum it up as "You're wrong". "You're wrong" makes little grammatical sense in the context of the question. However, it is likely that you are being purposefully vague as the question is not that complex. I will rephrase it for clarity. Do you think that the majority of Christians - those who self identify as Christian based on the Christian Bible's New Testament - do not believe that the God of the Christian Bible created the heavens, earth, etc? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is it really Denigrating to Islam; if all you have to do is quote the historical acts chronicled and often glorified in their own book? Aimless has lost credibility in my eyes... But then again. I'm not going to decapitate him for it, or even ask him for a ban. So there is that... |
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Mods and Site Staff are really deleting threads criticizing muslims? Or is my sarcasm meter in need of calibration? View Quote If your sarcasm meter is reading zero you are fine. I was given a stout warning on a thread awhile back over something rather tame regarding islam. Well, tame compared to what I really feel we should do. |
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And you would be wrong; that's absurd. It's more likely that the owners don't want their successful business transformed into a hate site by a handful of morans looking for a soap box. For the spelling nazis; "morans"? http://buffalobeast.com/138/Morans-Sign.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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IBTL As of late even clearly non COC threads dealing with islam have been locked http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1710927_Pope__Christians_and_Muslims_should_learn_more_about_each_other.html&light=pope http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1707312_Muslim_call_to_prayer_to_sound_at_Duke_University.html&page=6 http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1706959_Pelosi_to_name_first_Muslim_lawmaker_to_House_intelligence_committee.html&page=2 Sad, but true. I think that I can say, on somewhat good authority, that if there were ever an attack on ar15.com's HQ by "them"... it would indeed be fo-time, fo REAL. I am more of the "fuck-em/come-at-me-bro" mindset, but I haven't even purchased a membership yet, so I don't have anything else to add. ETA - in case it needed spelling out, I am under the impression that the deletion of said threads would be due to the perceived threat of an attack against anyone hosting/publishing stuff against the special snowflakes of the world... blah blah blah... And you would be wrong; that's absurd. It's more likely that the owners don't want their successful business transformed into a hate site by a handful of morans looking for a soap box. For the spelling nazis; "morans"? http://buffalobeast.com/138/Morans-Sign.jpg Oh fuck that.....the exact same things could be said about Judaism, Mormans, Christianity, Scientology and Flying Spaghetti Monsters and no threads would be locked and no members banned. |
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Arfcom is a private entity. It never has and never will. They can conduct business as they see fit. The 1A only limits the government and government agencies. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Clearly the first amendment doesn't apply in Arfcom. Arfcom is a private entity. It never has and never will. They can conduct business as they see fit. The 1A only limits the government and government agencies. Yep, no business is an island unto itself however. Every business needs customers. |
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- do not believe that the God of the Christian Bible created the heavens, earth, etc? View Quote That isn't the question you asked. You asked if most Christians believed in 'Creationism' (i.e. the belief God waved his hand and suddenly all the creatures sprang on the Earth - in other words a very literally reading of Genesis). The rest of us pretty much assume God created the engine & program we call "The Universe" and it has been unfolding/evolving over a long period of time. |
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That isn't the question you asked. You asked if most Christians believed in 'Creationism' (i.e. the belief God waved his hand and suddenly all the creatures sprang on the Earth - in other words a very literally reading of Genesis). The rest of us pretty much assume God created the engine & program we call "The Universe" and it has been unfolding/evolving over a long period of time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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- do not believe that the God of the Christian Bible created the heavens, earth, etc? That isn't the question you asked. You asked if most Christians believed in 'Creationism' (i.e. the belief God waved his hand and suddenly all the creatures sprang on the Earth - in other words a very literally reading of Genesis). The rest of us pretty much assume God created the engine & program we call "The Universe" and it has been unfolding/evolving over a long period of time. Thank you very much for responding. Just to make sure I understand where you are coming from with this, you are saying that you believe God created "life" (single celled critters and the like) and that life as we know it followed the currently held view of evolution (primordial soup and so forth)? I am not laying the groundwork for a textual attack - I truly am interested in other points of view. I do disagree that the majority of Christians believe that way. Based on a Gallup pole from last year, 42% of Americans believe that God created man. That is Americans as a whole - not specifically Christians. |
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Quoted: Yes, he has. Let me introduce you to a tenant of MY faith: View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Aimless has lost credibility in my eyes... But then again. I'm not going to decapitate him for it, or even ask him for a ban. So there is that... |
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The Imam may be right...we 'understand' (not that it's the only language we understand by far) the language of violence very well.
What he forgets is that we 'speak' it better than any other country in the world....we don't use it much, but when we 'speak' that language nations fall. Only when our own politicians try to muzzle our voice do we fail. |
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Quoted: That isn't the question you asked. You asked if most Christians believed in 'Creationism' (i.e. the belief God waved his hand and suddenly all the creatures sprang on the Earth - in other words a very literally reading of Genesis). The rest of us pretty much assume God created the engine & program we call "The Universe" and it has been unfolding/evolving over a long period of time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: - do not believe that the God of the Christian Bible created the heavens, earth, etc? That isn't the question you asked. You asked if most Christians believed in 'Creationism' (i.e. the belief God waved his hand and suddenly all the creatures sprang on the Earth - in other words a very literally reading of Genesis). The rest of us pretty much assume God created the engine & program we call "The Universe" and it has been unfolding/evolving over a long period of time. http://www.gallup.com/poll/170822/believe-creationist-view-human-origins.aspx Actually the numbers are not as definitive as some people try to make them out to be. This is not a christian cross section but includes atheists and religious people alike. In the U.S. 69% of people who attend church weekly believe in creationism. |
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Just to make sure I understand where you are coming from with this, you are saying that you believe God created "life" (single celled critters and the like) and that life as we know it followed the currently held view of evolution (primordial soup and so forth)? View Quote Pretty much. |
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Yeah, or Facebook! Or DU! Or MySpace! Or Blogger! ... or any other private entity. Kinda how that whole "Constitution" thing works. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Clearly the first amendment doesn't apply in Arfcom. Yeah, or Facebook! Or DU! Or MySpace! Or Blogger! ... or any other private entity. Kinda how that whole "Constitution" thing works. I agree, but then I am drawn to the private businesses who would not support gay weddings and see how that rule does not apply. |
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The US will never do anything about this type of shit, no drone strikes, no SEAL team raids, not even harsh language, we need to kiss their royal ass cause we "need" their cheap oil
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The Imam may be right...we 'understand' (not that it's the only language we understand by far) the language of violence very well. What he forgets is that we 'speak' it better than any other country in the world....we don't use it much, but when we 'speak' that language nations fall. Only when our own politicians try to muzzle our voice do we fail. View Quote Well said. |
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Quoted: This, I just don't get. ETA: Your site, your rules and all, but I can't help but thinking Site Staff would do well to explain some of the rationale behind the application of COC 1 to Islam threads. Would similarly critical threads of, say, Scientology be locked? If not, why not? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: IBTL As of late even clearly non COC threads dealing with islam have been locked http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1710927_Pope__Christians_and_Muslims_should_learn_more_about_each_other.html&light=pope http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1707312_Muslim_call_to_prayer_to_sound_at_Duke_University.html&page=6 http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1706959_Pelosi_to_name_first_Muslim_lawmaker_to_House_intelligence_committee.html&page=2 This, I just don't get. ETA: Your site, your rules and all, but I can't help but thinking Site Staff would do well to explain some of the rationale behind the application of COC 1 to Islam threads. Would similarly critical threads of, say, Scientology be locked? If not, why not? Worlds biggest firearms site full of racist and Islamophobic nuts. Here's 50 reasons for us to ban guns"
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So instead of responding in a mature way you want to pull this. Seriously you have shown that you do not follow the COC as you expect others to. Once again why are other mods shying away from taking action against you? The MODS in GD are loosing a lot of credibility leaving you unchecked.
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Since this thread appears to be the only thread about Islamic affairs that will not be locked, I suggest we post all the relevant stories in this thread:
Related to the movie American Sniper: Outraged Muslims Demand Clint Eastwood and Bradley Cooper Bow to Their Command- View Quote http://viral.buzz/outraged-muslim-demand-clint-eastwood-bow-to-their-command/ |
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Quoted: So instead of responding in a mature way you want to pull this. Seriously you have shown that you do not follow the COC as you expect others to. Once again why are other mods shying away from taking action against you? The MODS in GD are loosing a lot of credibility leaving you unchecked. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: have brought this up numerous times it seems other mods do not want to ban you for your inappropriate comments towards me. So instead of responding in a mature way you want to pull this. Seriously you have shown that you do not follow the COC as you expect others to. Once again why are other mods shying away from taking action against you? The MODS in GD are loosing a lot of credibility leaving you unchecked. |
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Nuke their oil fields, not the people. Radioactive oil will not sell. They wont be able to safely work the fields for a few hundred (or thousand) years.....end of extremist Muslim terrorist funding Just kidding. Kind of.... View Quote You think Saudis work? They outsource that shit. |
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Quoted: Would similarly critical threads of, say, Scientology be locked? If not, why not? View Quote You really can't compare the two, Scientology is a completely different thing altogether. You're taking a cult that was invented from scratch by some nutjob obsessed with money and power, specialising in preying on the weak-minded and gullible and launching drastic counterattacks against anyone who tries to criticise them, and trying to compare it to a cult that includes Tom Cruise. Completely different things. |
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Quoted: Islam is nothing more than a war religion. It revolves around death, destruction and the total subjugation of women. It was a pariah in the middle ages and is even worse today. Until the world understands this is the new Nazism and treats it like it did the Third Reich then the name of the number of people who lost their lives to political correctness will be legion. View Quote |
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Quoted: The irony is you have made comments and attacked religions you attacked me "see SIGLINE". You equated me to a bunch of murdering commies and bashed my religious views. By your own admission you should of got a time out if not a total ban. I have brought this up numerous times it seems other mods do not want to ban you for your inappropriate comments towards me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is it really Denigrating to Islam; if all you have to do is quote the historical acts chronicled and often glorified in their own book? |
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