You are probably right in what you are saying but sometimes dealing with these hateful people it's really hard to hold back.

In the first Gulf War, my entire submarine came to the conclusion that we were attacking the wrong country.   We should have let Saddam roll over the Saudis and cut a deal with him.  

It's really not.  Pretty easy to say any variety of "come at me", or "I'll be your huckleberry", or even "not if I kill you first, you motherfucking son of a whore".  Also easy to not take a response to an offer of violence with blatant insults of his religion which you know damn well are against CoC.

 

Once threads bashing Christianity, atheism or other beliefs are nuked from orbit, I'll actually believe that. Those threads usually get locked after personal attacks start getting thrown back and forth or the trolling becomes too overt. Aka a COC violation, except for when it involves bashing Christian beliefs.

Politically the site is in a tough spot, we can't have overt hate against Islam. We can't afford to provide the Left with anymore ammunition for their crusade against the 2A. So here we are, threads about Islam getting locked and "disappeared", members wondering what the hell is going on, members looking at this a kowtowing to Islam; when for the most part, you can substitute Christianity in place of Islam and nothing would happen.

Is the site going to come out and say that, doubtful. The site has the CoC as their reason, but when it gets unevenly applied, these sorts of threads and responses are going to happen. Just the way it is.

Well that's my read on the subject, take it fwiw.

Haha!  Muslims discovered America now?  I thought it was people from Africa who colonized America?  Heck, since everyone has to be special, I'm just gonna say it was me.

Ironically, those are the same things that people say about Muslims.

Or at least arm people like the Kurds who are willing and able to fight on the terrorists' terms like they're doing now.

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But remember, all religions are the same.

Is this one of those "moderates"?

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As long as you don't speak about...

Only subjects that wear suicide vests or have Alzheimer's.  The mentally retarded and handicapped are free game.



 

But do seem to tolerate homo threads.  When world leaders fail to recognize a threat and use terms such as "radical Islam" and "moderate Muslims"  their people are at risk of having their culture destroyed and lives threatened.

Muslim ideology is not compatible with Western cultures.  

What message exactly are they trying to send in this language?  And what other languages did they try?

This sounds like justifying violence for nothing but the sake of violence. Fuck him.


That actually made me kinda grin. Just a little bit.

This sounds like justifying violence for nothing but the sake of violence. Fuck him.




Someone gets it

Two generations ago the Saudi kings and princes were illiterate camel herders living in tents, but their glorious ancestors discovered America

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Nevermind.....................

lol all "media is. Even if they aren't. This is a big site. I am sure that they've gotten letters and phone calls etc.

sort of.... This is  blah blah from the IRS.... We've been tasked to tell you that you may be up for an audit....Oh yeah and you have an interesting website  lets talk about that....offline as it were....

remember guys. There is no rule of law for the fed gov anymore.

A man has to feed his family etc....

Islam is nothing more than a war religion. It revolves around death, destruction and the total subjugation of women. It was a pariah in the middle ages and is even worse today. Until the world understands this is the new Nazism and treats it like it did the Third Reich then the name of the number of people who lost their lives to political correctness will be legion.

What?  What's your problem?

 

One of my friends that I went to High School with converted to Islam, me: I converted to Judaism.
I also worked for some Shia Muslims who were very nice to me, and knew Sunni's in college who were also
very nice to me. But...they weren't nice towards Jews.

My feelings are a bit mixed.

My opinion is this:

In order to fight an enemy that is attacking you.
you MUST understand what is motivating him
as well as HOW he is providing logistical support (manpower, food, weapons, transportation, fuel, and the all important: MONEY
because WITHOUT MONEY, there is NO Logistical Support.
No Logistical Support = War is mostly Over.

So the enemy....
Believes in Islam (this means a person must study Islam. Which means studying: the Koran, the Sunna, and the Hadith.)
Then a person must understand the reasons why attacks are being carried out.
Is it because of Money, Politics, Power, or something else. One can get a good understanding
by reading and viewing translated documents and videos of an enemy speaking to his 'audience'

Next comes....how does the enemy view this conflict? And what are their objectives (short term, and long term)
and what is their methodology for carrying out attacks?

The video I posted is from a site: Memri.org that is dedicated to translating news articles and videos from the Middle East
to English.

The reason I posted this video: is that from the perspective of this Imam (and there are many others) this conflict
is not about Terrorism, but about following the religious dictates (or doctrine) of his interpretation of Islam.

Is it the "right" interpretation? Well...only YOU can make that decision...and you can only do that by studying it
objectively in order to understand what is going on.

Both Judaism and Christianity underwent religious reformation. Many lives were lost over many years.

The Islam as mostly practiced within the United States is a 'beautified' interpretation that stresses peace and tolerance.
Is this the right interpretation?

Yes and No. The first half of the Koran stresses peace and tolerance, but the 2nd half stresses intolerance and violence
and contradicts the first half. So which half is correct?

Since the second half was written later, it over rules the first half.

What should an American do?
Well..America is founded upon the principles of separation of church and state as well as freedom of expression and freedom of worship.
As Americans we need to embrace these liberties and treat fellow Americans and foreigners who live peacefully with open arms
and friendship.

However in order to survive and protect ourselves, we cannot afford to be pacifists. We must defend ourselves. So for only those who wish
to destroy us with violence, we must in turn rain violence down upon them. And 'educate' them like we did with Imperial Japan
that making war against the United States is a quick way to ensure extinction.. And that the only way Islam tolerated is through separation of
'church' (mosque) and state, and freedom of speech and religious tolerance.

Saudi Arabia does not have this. They do not respect the worship, proselytization of other religions that differ from Islam.
It is also ground zero for this entire faith. Until this particular region changes...the attacks will continue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjBDDC4wVxk

I have been looking at this site.  It is interesting to say the least.  Thanks for the link.

#4748 - Brooklyn Imam Tareq Yousef Al-Masri on Paris Terror Attacks: We Muslims Must Admit That We Are Time Bombs and We Hate Christians

Wow.

Well, <-beep beep beeping beep da beep beep beeping beeper beeped, BEEP!,->

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From their point of view they are absolutely right.  Fire, pain and death are the only things that will convince us that they mean to limit our freedom based on their religious beliefs.

But why are the threads being completely deleted?  I can understand thread and even account locks, but to completely delete a thread seems "interdasting".  I'm not calling you out, just wondering what determines that a thread gets completely deleted.  I would specifically like to hear from the Mod/Staff member(s) who deleted those threads and their reasoning.  I have not been here that long, but deleting a thread entirely seems to be rare and requires somewhat extreme circumstances.
I love penguins, so please don't lock my account

So, doing your job is too much work?  










I kid, I kid

No shit, I thought you guys did get paid...fucking '13er's, what do I know  [img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_blackeye.gif[/img

ETA: maybe not mods, but I assumed, for some reason, that staff was paid.

Well, Iraq did attack us first.

Is it really Denigrating to Islam; if all you have to do is quote the historical acts chronicled and often glorified in their own book?

Regardless of what happens on this forum, it's still an exercise in free speech. The same behavior would be illegal and punishable by death in Saudi Arabia as their constitution is based on the Koran and Sharia law.

No one can say with a straight face, that Saudi's are practicing a 'peaceful religion' as they are listed as one of the top world's worst human rights abuser.

Yeah sorta. Guest.

Or paying customer. Guess it depends how you look at it.

I bet he would understand a message sent in the same language.

Inshallah.

Not sure I follow you here.  

What is 'sea lawyering'?  Something to do with sardines?

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Once Canada starts doling out 1000 lashes and doing cross amputations with religious police, you might have an argument when it comes to free speech.