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...  and even my wife that I love, I almost divorced two years ago when her grandmother was diagnosed with huntington's disease. It was only after she tested negative for the gene that I agreed to stay. I did not want to be forced to support someone else. Especially not someone carrying a genetic disease.

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Worthy is not a word, I ever mentioned. That implies some decision making on my part. Ones right to survive should be determined by ones own ability to survive.

If an injured veteran decides to budget their funds, eliminate debt, and properly save for their long term survival than they could continue to survive off their intelligence and foresight long after their body gives out. If someone fails to do that, then no one should be forced to pay for their survival. Even an ability to touch the lives of other around you and have them cover your later cost can be considered a type of survival technique.

However, our current system makes us all contribute to others that  can not maintain themselves. You evoke the veteran to tug on my heartstring  (I was wounded while deployed myself), but what about the guy that fakes an injury or the woman that discovers that reproducing will get her free housing?

In regards to my family, my brother was killed when we were kids because of his own stupidity. My mother is in the process of dying now (on the taxpayer bill because she is an awful woman that no living family will help)  and even my wife that I love, I almost divorced two years ago when her grandmother was diagnosed with huntington's disease. It was only after she tested negative for the gene that I agreed to stay. I did not want to be forced to support someone else. Especially not someone carrying a genetic disease.

I see people in this thread complain about abortion, but i highly doubt that those people have gone out and adopted as many children as they could afford. I doubt they are fighting for a quicker and cheaper adoption process in this country. I doubt that any of them would be willing to take on an infant with a permanent debilitating disease, and the cost of doing so. No, they want to complain from some perceived moral high ground, while doing nothing to ease the problem. At least I apply my beliefs to everyone fairly, and have gone out of my way to insure that I live by these principles.
I have no idea what an 88er is.

ETA: googled 88er. Not sure what anything I have said has to do with Nazi followers. In case your history is cloudy, the Nazi's killed people. They killed people that were doing just fine on their own and by no means were being held up by others. You are for some reason correlating my beliefs to murder, but let me give you a better example. A child is playing with a ball. The ball rolls onto a frozen drainage area. The child foolishly chooses to run onto the ice to retrieve the ball and the ice breaks. A person watching does nothing. This is my scenario. The nazi equivalent would be actively throwing the child into the icy water. The two are not at all related

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The other poster was right, there is something amiss in your brain


 

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In regards to my family, my brother was killed when we were kids because of his own stupidity. My mother is in the process of dying now (on the taxpayer bill because she is an awful woman that no living family will help)  and even my wife that I love, I almost divorced two years ago when her grandmother was diagnosed with huntington's disease. It was only after she tested negative for the gene that I agreed to stay. I did not want to be forced to support someone else. Especially not someone carrying a genetic disease.

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...  and even my wife that I love, I almost divorced two years ago when her grandmother was diagnosed with huntington's disease. It was only after she tested negative for the gene that I agreed to stay. I did not want to be forced to support someone else. Especially not someone carrying a genetic disease.

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Just when I think I've read it all, I see something like this.

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OMG, this guy is sick, I wonder if he would put a gun in his mouth if he got cancer and couldn't pay for his treatments rather than suck off us producing Humans?


 

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Just when I think I've read it all, I see something like this.

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Its probably the most responsible use of money by our government. If a kids not wanted before its born do you really think that the mother is going to put her time and money into raising it? We can spend $200 to stop the problem before it starts, or we can pay for the problem for a minimum of 18 years.  We recoup our tax money in the first or second prenatal exam. So yeah I'm against the bill and all for gov funded abortion.

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I support taxpayer funds for abortion. The alternative is a lifetime of subsidies for both babymama and her litter, and another generation of more democrats voting for more bread and circuses.

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Just when I think I've read it all, I see something like this.

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...  and even my wife that I love, I almost divorced two years ago when her grandmother was diagnosed with huntington's disease. It was only after she tested negative for the gene that I agreed to stay. I did not want to be forced to support someone else. Especially not someone carrying a genetic disease.

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I don't support doing dumb, useless things that help the Democrats.

Maybe next we should propose that grenade launchers be sold in mall vending machines. That'll be a big help when whoever is debating Hillary. This is the abortion equivalent of Open Carry Texas.

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He's a 13er so maybe just maybe he's trolling us, a lot of work to look like a sociopath though
 

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Bingo

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This.



I mean I support the bill in principle (the list of things I support being funded by taxpayers is a damn short one), but the timing of this just seems stupid. And to what end? How much is the federal government spending on abortions? This is pandering to social conservatives. The amount of money saved will amount to a rounding error in the federal budget. Great. It accomplishes basically nothing AND it annoys almost half the country. Awesome.

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I support taxpayer funds for abortion. The alternative is a lifetime of subsidies for both babymama and her litter, and another generation of more democrats voting for more bread and circuses.

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I don't support doing dumb, useless things that help the Democrats.

Maybe next we should propose that grenade launchers be sold in mall vending machines. That'll be a big help when whoever is debating Hillary. This is the abortion equivalent of Open Carry Texas.

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I support taxpayer funds for abortion. The alternative is a lifetime of subsidies for both babymama and her litter, and another generation of more democrats voting for more bread and circuses.

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It energizes the Republican base.  Nobody gives a fuck what it does to the LIV on the democrat side, they're not going to vote Republican anyway.

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It energizes the Republican base.  Nobody gives a fuck what it does to the LIV on the democrat side, they're not going to vote Republican anyway.

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Cite?

Unless by energizes you mean the half that were going to vote republican no matter what are all even more likely to vote like they'd already planned and the other half who are all "Fuck, not this shit again."
 

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I will post it again, 50,000,000+ abortions later we still have more fatherless children and single mothers on the taxpayer dime than at any time in American history.  More than before  Roe v. Wade and the cost have not come down. Full government dependence by a section of US society and a government that subsidies the behavior....which we all know results in more of it.


Mass infanticide had not lowered the costs or numbers being served by  Prison Incarceration, Schooling, Food Stamps, Other Welfare, it will continue to increase as long as there is system that tolerates and supports it.

Ps Remember we are also being told that we need to import more low skilled workers....wonder if there is a correlation with the numbers....

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Just when I think I've read it all, I see something like this.

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He's not trolling, he's a true believer.  His positions on this and other things, while very poorly presented and barely logical (to the point it's obvious he's reading out of a book that's way above his comprehension level), have been consistent the whole time he's been here.

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Maybe the part in blue is where we need to change things.

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This.

I mean I support the bill in principle (the list of things I support being funded by taxpayers is a damn short one), but the timing of this just seems stupid. And to what end? How much is the federal government spending on abortions? This is pandering to social conservatives. The amount of money saved will amount to a rounding error in the federal budget. Great. It accomplishes basically nothing AND it annoys almost half the country. Awesome.

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OMG, this guy is sick, I wonder if he would put a gun in his mouth if he got cancer and couldn't pay for his treatments rather than suck off us producing Humans?
 

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I support no taxpayer funded abortion but I do support taxpayer funded birth control and drug testing for benefits. Adoption is the option with "unwanted" pregnancies. We've got many Americans going overseas to adopt when they could do so here.

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You know I hear this argument all the time.  Doesn't explain the overcrowded group homes and government subsidized foster homes full of unwanted kids.