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Posted: 1/7/2015 6:58:22 AM EDT
[#1]
I have no practical need for NV. I don't currently hunt, I don't "operate", I don't patrol a ranch...nothing. But I do have a really nice PVS-14.
It's fun as hell, plus one day there might be an actual SHTF type of situation where it comes in handy. Yeah, that's it, it's an investment in prepping...that's how I justify it in my head. Really though, it's not much different from certain rifles that I have the same amount of money invested in and mostly sit in the safe until I feel like shooting them just for fun. I postponed some gun buys and got the PVS instead, don't really regret it. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 7:03:36 AM EDT
[#2]
Give me to the end of the year, bro.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 7:06:00 AM EDT
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Because I have other important things to spend money on. This. To the point where I plan on thinning out the safe. Limited utility toy. At night I prefer to spend time wit my family,or sleep. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 7:06:42 AM EDT
[#4]
Shit. Can't get pvs-14 now, need membership.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 7:07:49 AM EDT
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Because money.  |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 7:09:31 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When the SHTF I'm coming to your house o take yours!  |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 7:12:24 AM EDT
[#7]
The goal is to have one by the end of this year. After playing with a PVS14 and PEQ15 in the Army I am convinced. The ability to walk in darkness and navigate over terrain, once mastered, is a pretty good skill to have. The ability to make solid hits on targets out to 4 or 500m in total darkness is even better.
I already have an SBR and suppressor, so NVD is the next logical step. Just need to figure out if I want to cheap out on a helmet or spend big money for a ballistic helmet, find my spare rhino mount and j arm, and do more research on IR light sources. I'm leaning towards one of those civilian PEQ15s. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 7:12:26 AM EDT
[#8]
Only have one PVS14, need to get a 2nd for a dual tube set up, than thermal. Of course I have about 75% of my salary as disposable income.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 7:15:25 AM EDT
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Give me to the end of the year, bro. You have until May |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 7:16:09 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just need to figure out if I want to cheap out on a helmet or spend big money for a ballistic helmet. Nightcap?  |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 7:18:48 AM EDT
[#11]
I bought my first AR in 1992. Today, that AR (if it wasn't a ball of melted rubble) would still be as effective as it was. It holds its own against current rifles.
I can afford $1000 for something that holds value like that. I remember paying almost $4000 for a 200Mhz Pentium computer in 1995. MMX, baby! Even had this new thing, called a SoundBlaster! It literally isn't worth anything...even if I still had it. I don't have the income to justify that kind of expenditure, for an item that is guaranteed to be worthless. I would love to have NV...but it's just not within my range. It is literally throw-away money, and $3K - $4K is too much for me to do that at my income. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 7:21:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought my first AR in 1992. Today, that AR (if it wasn't a ball of melted rubble) would still be as effective as it was. It holds its own against current rifles. I bought my first gen3 PVS-14 in 2005 for 3000$. Today its still as effective as it was. It still holds its own against current PVS-14s Guess how much PVS-14s are now a decade later? |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 7:27:07 AM EDT
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See that extra pin on the rifle? More like 35K. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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do you do thermal? http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Aliner%20Classic/CeilingLatched_zpsc2ae072c.jpg Probably. http://i.imgur.com/VfsQpfY.jpg Good grief. What's that....like $15,000 laying right there on the ground? What's your secret to getting the "funding approval" for all those nice fucking toys you got there... 
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/26/26852fd59b278931c44c7a8e45db03cd6c113eef0de0ffaeb915dc0921843e6b.jpg See that extra pin on the rifle? More like 35K. If I had that kind of coin in one rifle, there would be no way to avoid an anvil falling out of the blue sky and squashing it. Then I would cry like Boehner. That $500 one seems about my speed, if it is any good. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 7:33:03 AM EDT
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Because money. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 7:36:56 AM EDT
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I bought my first gen3 PVS-14 in 2005 for 3000$. Today its still as effective as it was. It still holds its own against current PVS-14s Guess how much PVS-14s are now a decade later? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bought my first AR in 1992. Today, that AR (if it wasn't a ball of melted rubble) would still be as effective as it was. It holds its own against current rifles. I bought my first gen3 PVS-14 in 2005 for 3000$. Today its still as effective as it was. It still holds its own against current PVS-14s Guess how much PVS-14s are now a decade later? Fine! The truth is, I'm holding out for the Zeiss-Ikon eyes. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 8:47:18 AM EDT
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Currahee had one of those, maybe he will pop in here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have NV and stuff. But I was thinking about getting the Armalight spark CORE here for a friend of mine who has no NV. Currahee had one of those, maybe he will pop in here. http://www.everycitizenasoldier.org/id74.html The above contains pictures comparing SPARK to Gen III and explains the practical differences. I will summarize on the SPARK before I go to work. It is the only Gen I I know of that is actually useable. If you have $500 and CAN NOT get anymore to put towards NV go ahead. It has it's uses and will be fore more useful than a fourth type of pistol siting in your closets or 3 more inches of flat screen TV hanging on your wall. If you have a regular income and can squirrel it away until you ca afford GEN III, do that. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 8:50:53 AM EDT
[#17]
Fpni
If I was going to spend a chunk that big it would be toward my moto. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 8:53:42 AM EDT
[#18]
Because money. Also I need eye surgery first
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Posted: 1/7/2015 8:54:08 AM EDT
[#19]
I have a PVS14
Sad thing if you have night vision then you gotta have a cool if laser A PVS14 can be had for $1800-2000, not much these days He'll NV is about the same price as two months of Obamacare  |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 8:54:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have NV and stuff. But I was thinking about getting the Armalight spark CORE here for a friend of mine who has no NV. Dude you just ruined the surprise for me. But that's okay.  Quoted: I will summarize on the SPARK before I go to work. It is the only Gen I I know of that is actually useable. If you have $500 and CAN NOT get anymore to put towards NV go ahead. It has it's uses and will be fore more useful than a fourth type of pistol siting in your closets or 3 more inches of flat screen TV hanging on your wall. If you have a regular income and can squirrel it away until you ca afford GEN III, do that. See I was afraid of a review like this. Good enough to get the job done but if you're able to save for '14s, you'll be much happier. Also, FREE has an excellent point: The second you get NV, you're gonna want a fk'n IR laser, and that's another ~$1300.  |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:02:44 AM EDT
[#21]
No, because I was blind the whole time.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:07:23 AM EDT
[#22]
Op - please order these in priority:
NV suppressor SBR Ammo fort Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:09:09 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Op - please order these in priority: NV suppressor SBR Ammo fort Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Gun Ammo for shooting NV Suppressor SBR Ammo fort |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:11:13 AM EDT
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To much money, not enough actual use for me...I've somehow managed to whack animals at night for years without it, I'll concede it would be a definite advantage...if only I was loaded or it was cheaper.  I'll go with this as well. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:18:29 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Gun Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Op - please order these in priority: NV suppressor SBR Ammo fort Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Gun Ammo for shooting NV Suppressor SBR Ammo fort Better add a civi PEQ-15 and a helmet to that list. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:20:08 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Better add a civi PEQ-15 and a helmet to that list. You can use the skull crusher most 14s/7s etc come with, and a red dot to still shoot. Its not ideal, but its better than not NV. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:21:46 AM EDT
[#27]
Because don't need one.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:28:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:34:41 AM EDT
[#29]
I have before. Didn't get used as often as other things, so I sold it.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:35:08 AM EDT
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Yeah, but is living in a camper worth it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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PVS-14 ... come at me bro. http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Rifles/PVS-14withHelmet_zps3c4e5ecf.jpg Now ... do you do thermal? http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Aliner%20Classic/SideViewwithDormerUpAnnotated_zpsb8cd5a34.jpg Yeah, but is living in a camper worth it? *snort* 
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:37:02 AM EDT
[#31]
You forgot to add to the poll: "My money can be better spent on guns/ammo than worthless NV for the average American."
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:39:18 AM EDT
[#32]
Armasight NSMSPARK01CCIC1 Spark CORE Multi-Purpose Night Vision Monocular $459
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=852346&gclid=CPz4iLH-gcMCFc1i7AodjlkAXg&Q=&is=REG&A=details |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:39:45 AM EDT
[#33]
I do bro. What serious prepper/survivalists does not have them?
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:40:15 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You forgot to add to the poll: "My money can be better spent on guns/ammo than worthless NV for the average American." Or....'I'll just take one off a dead FEMA-bot |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:40:45 AM EDT
[#35]
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PVS-14 ... come at me bro. http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Rifles/PVS-14withHelmet_zps3c4e5ecf.jpg Now ... do you do thermal? http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Aliner%20Classic/CeilingLatched_zpsc2ae072c.jpg You propane tank is about to cook off. Run! |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:42:51 AM EDT
[#36]
I saw Andromeda speeding towards us at 500,000 MPH and realised that humans weren't meant to have these kind of superpowers.
I immediately threw my PVS-14's in a lake. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:42:52 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Armasight NSMSPARK01CCIC1 Spark CORE Multi-Purpose Night Vision Monocular $459 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=852346&gclid=CPz4iLH-gcMCFc1i7AodjlkAXg&Q=&is=REG&A=details |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:43:27 AM EDT
[#38]
heh no one noticed I just posted quite a few killer deals. Left overs from the big Amazon sale. Well, sorry I tried.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:43:56 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Armasight NSMSPARK01CCIC1 Spark CORE Multi-Purpose Night Vision Monocular $459 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=852346&gclid=CPz4iLH-gcMCFc1i7AodjlkAXg&Q=&is=REG&A=details Garbage, but you missed my big long link of actually good usable stuff. Whatever dude.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:45:01 AM EDT
[#40]
I don't go anywhere after dark.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:45:11 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: WOW, any idea of how good it is? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Armasight NSMSPARK01CCIC1 Spark CORE Multi-Purpose Night Vision Monocular $459 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=852346&gclid=CPz4iLH-gcMCFc1i7AodjlkAXg&Q=&is=REG&A=details Garbage, but you missed my big long link of actually good usable stuff. Whatever dude. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:45:33 AM EDT
[#42]
iv often heard , we can just pick up high speed gear for free. from the stroked out arfcommers in their XXXXL plate carriers....
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:48:40 AM EDT
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Unless you plan on only using it statically, you really need some sort of head mounted night vision before thermal. Thermal isn't good for walking around with. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because I want thermal. Unless you plan on only using it statically, you really need some sort of head mounted night vision before thermal. Thermal isn't good for walking around with. This guy disagrees... 
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:50:49 AM EDT
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You know exactly why! If I send you a go pro and my pvs 14 will you drive your wife's porsche at night on some of the VA back roads? |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:51:27 AM EDT
[#45]
ugh here for those that missed the archery deals:
http://smile.amazon.com/FIN-FINDER-SHARK-RECURVE-LIGHT-STRYKE/dp/B0094M60KE/ref=pd_sim_sbs_sg_54?ie=UTF8&refRID=1EY2W3MJVCDRZHQ0YHJ6 May get lucky with this coming back into stock:
http://smile.amazon.com/Acog-Scope-Illuminated-Triangle-Reticle/dp/B0037VXPIS/ref=pd_sim_sbs_sg_12?ie=UTF8&refRID=01PT7MQVHD4HCNH22VN4 |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:52:07 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: WOW, any idea of how good it is? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Armasight NSMSPARK01CCIC1 Spark CORE Multi-Purpose Night Vision Monocular $459 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=852346&gclid=CPz4iLH-gcMCFc1i7AodjlkAXg&Q=&is=REG&A=details Garbage, but you missed my big long link of actually good usable stuff. Whatever dude. I clicked/looked at every one of those links....but whatever,dude. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:53:10 AM EDT
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Because money. This I have a Gen 1 |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:53:26 AM EDT
[#48]
Have my Raptor 4x mounted on my RR M16 chambered in 6.8. Also have pvs-14's for driving around with the lights off. Pretty damn fun.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 9:53:57 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Garbage, but you missed my big long link of actually good usable stuff. Whatever dude. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Armasight NSMSPARK01CCIC1 Spark CORE Multi-Purpose Night Vision Monocular $459 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=852346&gclid=CPz4iLH-gcMCFc1i7AodjlkAXg&Q=&is=REG&A=details Garbage, but you missed my big long link of actually good usable stuff. Whatever dude. I clicked/looked at every one of those links....but whatever,dude. The ATN is described wrong. That's a Gen3 64-72lp/mm tube in that per ATN website. Meh, may get lucky with this one too: http://smile.amazon.com/ACOG-TA648-50G-Trijicon-Illuminated-Ballistic/dp/B005ZM4RPC/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1420639075&sr=1-3 Maybe this is a deal: http://smile.amazon.com/Trijicon-Ruggedized-Miniature-Reflex-Illuminated/dp/B0037WD1IQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1420639154&sr=1-1 or this one, unsure as I don't shop for these: http://smile.amazon.com/Trijicon-Riflescope-Adjusters-Reticle-Red-13-9-Inch/dp/B007USY3OE/ref=sr_1_15?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1420639432&sr=1-15 |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 10:00:39 AM EDT
[#50]
I would research this myself, but by the time I know the answer... this thread will be about screen doors, trannies, pandas, or some shit.
Is there any use for NV on a home defense rifle? A corollary question: Doesn't bright light blur out a NV image... like an intruder's flashlight, or flipping on a light switch? |
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