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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:33:36 AM EDT
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I think it becomes about 1200$ we'll all get some. The link I posted above is $500. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:35:50 AM EDT
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I keep hoping prices will fall.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:35:57 AM EDT
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do you do thermal? http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Aliner%20Classic/CeilingLatched_zpsc2ae072c.jpg Probably. http://i.imgur.com/VfsQpfY.jpg Good grief. What's that....like $15,000 laying right there on the ground? What's your secret to getting the "funding approval" for all those nice fucking toys you got there... 
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:36:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I built my own. I just took it apart to rebuild it out of aluminum tubing instead of thread all and laser cut plywood. Sorry so lame. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:37:55 AM EDT
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I was looking at that. Seems like a fun project, but it isn't exactly a helmet-mounted monocle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I built my own. I just took it apart to rebuild it out of aluminum tubing instead of thread all and laser cut plywood. Sorry so lame. No sir, it is not. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:38:17 AM EDT
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The link I posted above is $500. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think it becomes about 1200$ we'll all get some. The link I posted above is $500. All I saw on your link was about 8 different optics from 2500$ -6000$ |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:39:59 AM EDT
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saved FOREVER (technically, embezzled. Domestically. Domestic Embezzlement FTW) and got a PVS-14. After reading listening to Katrina, and talking to a friend of mine who went through Katrina, I decided I'd rather have a 10/22 with a suppressor and NV than a completely decked AR with all the stuff and no NV>
it's surprising how often I use it now for mundane stuff like checking out what the noise in the back yard is, hunting racoons and coyotes, chasing my kids playing fugitive (motorcycle + NV = unfair advantage in fugitive) |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:42:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have NV and stuff. But I was thinking about getting the Armalight spark CORE here for a friend of mine who has no NV. Currahee had one of those, maybe he will pop in here.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:42:22 AM EDT
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I make do by eating a lot of carrots.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:43:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: saved FOREVER (technically, embezzled. Domestically. Domestic Embezzlement FTW) and got a PVS-14. After reading listening to Katrina, and talking to a friend of mine who went through Katrina, I decided I'd rather have a 10/22 with a suppressor and NV than a completely decked AR with all the stuff and no NV> it's surprising how often I use it now for mundane stuff like checking out what the noise in the back yard is, hunting racoons and coyotes, chasing my kids playing fugitive (motorcycle + NV = unfair advantage in fugitive) Yeah I use mine all the time for random stuff. They are great during hurricanes. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:44:13 AM EDT
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All I saw on your link was about 8 different optics from 2500$ -6000$ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think it becomes about 1200$ we'll all get some. The link I posted above is $500. All I saw on your link was about 8 different optics from 2500$ -6000$ I don't know why it won't link, but go the monocular section and look at the armasight spark. Technically it's gen 1 due to the construction, but science was used to do some stuff I don't understand, and now I want to try one. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:44:39 AM EDT
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saved FOREVER (technically, embezzled. Domestically. Domestic Embezzlement FTW) and got a PVS-14. After reading listening to Katrina, and talking to a friend of mine who went through Katrina, I decided I'd rather have a 10/22 with a suppressor and NV than a completely decked AR with all the stuff and no NV> it's surprising how often I use it now for mundane stuff like checking out what the noise in the back yard is, hunting racoons and coyotes, chasing my kids playing fugitive (motorcycle + NV = unfair advantage in fugitive) People who haven't used NV don't realize just how awesome the ability to see when everyone else can't is. It really is an amazing piece of equipment. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:44:57 AM EDT
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Currahee had one of those, maybe he will pop in here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have NV and stuff. But I was thinking about getting the Armalight spark CORE here for a friend of mine who has no NV. Currahee had one of those, maybe he will pop in here. Have you looked through it? Because it sounds sciency as all Hell. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:46:10 AM EDT
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Yeah I use mine all the time for random stuff. They are great during hurricanes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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saved FOREVER (technically, embezzled. Domestically. Domestic Embezzlement FTW) and got a PVS-14. After reading listening to Katrina, and talking to a friend of mine who went through Katrina, I decided I'd rather have a 10/22 with a suppressor and NV than a completely decked AR with all the stuff and no NV> it's surprising how often I use it now for mundane stuff like checking out what the noise in the back yard is, hunting racoons and coyotes, chasing my kids playing fugitive (motorcycle + NV = unfair advantage in fugitive) Yeah I use mine all the time for random stuff. They are great during hurricanes. Between the NV and the thermal, we're Hell on poachers. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:49:05 AM EDT
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Sometimes I wonder if I have better than most night vision.
I work outside and when it's dark in early pre dawn times, my crew will go out and take a look at their jobsite and stuff. Inevitably, they will use headlights and flashlights. I am always telling them to turn that shit off. I can see better without it. Now, I don't realky mean I can see everything in the dark, but artificial light outside, seems to make it worse for me if it's not blanketing the entire area. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:52:40 AM EDT
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Because I'm a terrible person that isn't wise with money.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 2:58:38 AM EDT
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Because of NFA and all the can BoGo's. I just got set up with body armor. After a couple of more SBr's & a MPX I'm jumping in NV and IR feet first.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 3:18:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sometimes I wonder if I have better than most night vision. I work outside and when it's dark in early pre dawn times, my crew will go out and take a look at their jobsite and stuff. Inevitably, they will use headlights and flashlights. I am always telling them to turn that shit off. I can see better without it. Now, I don't realky mean I can see everything in the dark, but artificial light outside, seems to make it worse for me if it's not blanketing the entire area. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 3:22:41 AM EDT
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I love thermal imaging and have used it extensively.
Can't justify the bucks. eta I do have some ancient Russian made generation <1 hand held piezoelectric powered toy that is fun to play with. It's useless for real life. Somewhere in my pile of stuff that I haven't seen in a decade. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 3:32:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After a couple of more SBr's & a MPX I'm jumping in NV and IR feet first. Cant shoot a couple of SBRs at the same time, can shoot one SBR with NV.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 3:35:05 AM EDT
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My legitimate response:
I don't know what to buy. I got out of the Marines in 92. We had old heavy weapon mounted crap that weighed 5 lbs. I have no problem spending the money but I want to do a turnkey thing that gets it done. Buy once, cry once. I don't want to depend on a salesman to help me. Thermal is fine. I am a bug in kinda guy anyway. So RustedAce, what do I get? Jim |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 3:37:46 AM EDT
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The night time is the right time.
PVS-14 Crye Airframe Wilcox Mount Inforce IR on helmet PEQ2A on 14.5 AR with NV compatible Eotech and Surefire Scout with Vampire IR head (this is phenomenal for coyote hunting at night) PVS24 on my KAC/HCS Mk12Mod1 which I'll try out the new TNVC PEQ15 on this year sometime. I'm to the point of looking at IR driving lights for the Jeep. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 3:40:02 AM EDT
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Why dont you? "History is made at night, character is what you are in the dark." Half of the time is night time, why can't you see during it? Especially folks with 4-5 nice rifles, why have those but not the ability to see in half the day? Why do you hate poor people??? Side note why are you costing me money. ????????? |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 3:46:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My legitimate response: I don't know what to buy. I got out of the Marines in 92. We had old heavy weapon mounted crap that weighed 5 lbs. I have no problem spending the money but I want to do a turnkey thing that gets it done. Buy once, cry once. I don't want to depend on a salesman to help me. Thermal is fine. I am a bug in kinda guy anyway. So RustedAce, what do I get? Jim The most useful all around will be a quality PVS-14. Very versatile, can hand hold, head mount ,weapon mount etc. Just make sure to get it from a reputable dealer. They can be used for a wide variety of things beyond shooting, I go 4wheeling/ boating with my 14 for example. Impress the ladies by showing them stars with it.  Thermal is much much much better at detecting living things, but is very annoying for walking around because the image burns through small twigs/ brush to brighter things beyond them. I normally use my head mounted 14s to walk into position, then scan with weapon mounted thermal clip-on to decide if I want to shoot things. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 3:48:12 AM EDT
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My thermal iPhone camera laughs at your NV.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 3:54:16 AM EDT
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Because ITAR
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Posted: 1/7/2015 3:55:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because ITAR Dont worry you can see America science at Cola Warrior every year. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 3:57:06 AM EDT
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Dont worry we will let you look through our America science at Cola Warrior every year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because ITAR
Dont worry we will let you look through our America science at Cola Warrior every year. I'm thinking aboot adopting a Canadian. If I do it will probably be him. No worries. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 3:58:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you looked through it? Because it sounds sciency as all Hell. I peaked through it for a second in good conditions, not enough to settle the science, I linked Currahee this thread though.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 4:00:22 AM EDT
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Can't save money beyond my retirement... Need nods and IR laser for my carbine and a thermal for my bolt gun.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 4:00:22 AM EDT
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I found a doctor who said for twenty menthol kools he would do a surgical shine job in my eyes, thus negating the need for night vision.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 4:06:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I found a doctor who said for twenty menthol kools he would do a surgical shine job in my eyes, thus negating the need for night vision. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 4:07:33 AM EDT
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Seems legit, can we trade places? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I found a doctor who said for twenty menthol kools he would do a surgical shine job in my eyes, thus negating the need for night vision. He's hard to catch up with. Stays at a different EconoLodge every night |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 4:09:08 AM EDT
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Because money.  This. Flashlights are much cheaper. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 4:10:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's hard to catch up with. Stays at a different EconoLodge every night Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I found a doctor who said for twenty menthol kools he would do a surgical shine job in my eyes, thus negating the need for night vision. He's hard to catch up with. Stays at a different EconoLodge every night |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 4:16:46 AM EDT
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Good grief. What's that....like $15,000 laying right there on the ground? What's your secret to getting the "funding approval" for all those nice fucking toys you got there...
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/26/26852fd59b278931c44c7a8e45db03cd6c113eef0de0ffaeb915dc0921843e6b.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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do you do thermal? http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Aliner%20Classic/CeilingLatched_zpsc2ae072c.jpg Probably. http://i.imgur.com/VfsQpfY.jpg Good grief. What's that....like $15,000 laying right there on the ground? What's your secret to getting the "funding approval" for all those nice fucking toys you got there...
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/26/26852fd59b278931c44c7a8e45db03cd6c113eef0de0ffaeb915dc0921843e6b.jpg See that extra pin on the rifle? More like 35K. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 4:19:02 AM EDT
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Oh yeah. I have green eyes, good gen 3 even, but they are PVS-7s, not 14s, so I am not a cool kid.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 4:19:19 AM EDT
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See that extra pin on the rifle? More like 35K. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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do you do thermal? http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Aliner%20Classic/CeilingLatched_zpsc2ae072c.jpg Probably. http://i.imgur.com/VfsQpfY.jpg Good grief. What's that....like $15,000 laying right there on the ground? What's your secret to getting the "funding approval" for all those nice fucking toys you got there...
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/26/26852fd59b278931c44c7a8e45db03cd6c113eef0de0ffaeb915dc0921843e6b.jpg See that extra pin on the rifle? More like 35K. Holy fuck! I was so busy fapping to the rest of the pic I didn't even notice that. RustedAce is a god damn god! Be back in 10..... |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 4:21:16 AM EDT
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Born too late to cash in on the Oil Wars like RA...
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Posted: 1/7/2015 4:29:43 AM EDT
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Day shift. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 4:32:38 AM EDT
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Currently saving up. Might at least have the 14 before CW5.
Dunno about the IR laser and torch though. Probably will have to buy 2 of those Surefire 60 rounders to spray at targets or something. ETA: Used to have a D 300 milspec unit. Wasn't very impressed with it and sold it. |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 5:33:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh yeah. I have green eyes, good gen 3 even, but they are PVS-7s, not 14s, so I am not a cool kid. 7s is much cooler than anything not Gen3.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 5:53:14 AM EDT
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Soon..... |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 6:12:20 AM EDT
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I have used them in the mil and think they are cool. Want a PVS-14 but just can't part with the cash for something I doubt I will use much. Plus, I'm hoping the technology will improve and prices go lower. I'm thinking eventually electronic night vision will be about as good.
Anyone try one of these: ATN X-Sight |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 6:16:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Plus, I'm hoping the technology will improve and prices go lower. I got my first PVS-14 in 2005 for the same as they cost now. Price seems pretty dang stable. All the newer tech stuff is also crazy expensive.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 6:19:59 AM EDT
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Cant shoot a couple of SBRs at the same time, can shoot one SBR with NV. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After a couple of more SBr's & a MPX I'm jumping in NV and IR feet first. Cant shoot a couple of SBRs at the same time, can shoot one SBR with NV. this -- I would have a single rifle with night vision capability (and IR aiming light) before collecting a whole crap ton of rifles |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 6:48:05 AM EDT
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Because of ITAR. Quality NV is ridiculously expensive here, and spending 5K+ on a stolen/smuggled PVS-14 doesn't appeal to me.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 6:54:31 AM EDT
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I've got an inexpensive "modern" gen 1 monocle made with a Russian tube that was given to me as a gift. It isn't much good for walking around since it has 5x magnification, but it is surprisingly good in decent low light for observation. Its illuminator is somewhat useful out to 20 yards or so, but combined with an IR torch I can clearly see just about anything in my 20 acre field at night. I may not be able to count the points on the deer, but I can pretty reliably tell you buck or doe
With even a little bit of moonlight I don't really ever even need the IR. I have played with a friend's PVS-14 so I know just how much better they can be, but until I can finish saving pennies (working on it, also have a bad racing habit) I think it is better than nothing in a lights out situation. That sciency Gen1+ tube previously discussed is a bit tempting because I could already afford that and the helmet to go with it...Someone with knowledge about such things needs get a hold of one to tell us if it is a worthy stop-gap . |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 6:54:34 AM EDT
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Too expensive for me, at least for the stuff that would be of any quality.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 6:55:12 AM EDT
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When the SHTF I'm coming to your house o take yours!
Just kidding, I have one.....but i wouldn't mind two... 
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