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10 Thing we learned in Jerez 1 Mercedes are still the class act of the circus
The three pre-season testing sessions are Formula One’s big sandbagging festivals of the year. However, the double world champions just couldn’t conceal the fact that they are still the class of the field. They pounded in the laps (all 515 of them) like Haile Gebrselassie but it was all done in a mooching style that suggested there was plenty more to come, and they were still quick enough, even running medium rubber. The second heaviest lappers among the big four were Ferrari, with 349. Mercedes went to Spain ahead of the rest and learned more than any other team. 2 Ferrari have made a big step forward Some say the prancing horse could be the dark horse of the 2015 F1 championship. OK, they appeared to be showboating as they dominated the timesheets in Spain – they and the Ferrari-powered Sauber were first and second in terms of pace on all four days. But it is worth noting that Nico Rosberg described Ferrari’s pace as an “eye-opener”. Much more important is that both drivers, Sebastian Vettel and Kimi Raikkonen, seemed happy with the car, and did plenty of laps too. 3 McLaren have much to do before Australia McLaren hit the ground spluttering but completed so few laps, only 79, that we will have to wait until the next two tests in Barcelona before we can make a more qualified judgment. The car looks great – but the Honda power was missing. The McLaren chairman, Ron Dennis, promises a much-improved engine for next time out but this once great partnership is likely to be playing catch-up in the opening races of the new season. In Jerez they looked the prettiest back-marker in F1. 4 Red Bull still have Renault problems Red Bull came in disguise, with a livery designed to camouflage some of their new bits. But their performances would have done the job instead. Was this really a Red Bull? Only McLaren did fewer laps and the worry is the same as in 2014 – is that Renault engine any good? On this evidence, not good enough. 5 Kimi Raikkonen rides again for Ferrari Forget the fact that he put in the quickest lap of the four days. The point is that Raikkonen, who never gives anything away, appeared to have a real spring in his step after a wretchedly disappointing season with Ferrari last year. “This year is completely different,” he enthused. That could make life very interesting for race fans, because after his own disappointing season with Red Bull last year Sebastian Vettel has something to prove, and he can only do that by blowing Raikkonen away. 6 The cars will be quicker than in 2014 Last season started in Australia with some complaining about the poor sound coming from the smaller engines. Some idiots even wanted the noise artificially enhanced. In fact most people had been won over by the end of the year. The good news from Jerez is that the cars will be lapping more quickly this year. The fastest lap in Spain was Kimi Raikkonen’s 1min 20.841sec. That was quite an improvement on Kevin Magnussen’s 1:23.276 last year. 7 Williams will be very strong again The success of Williams in taking on and often beating the big teams of Formula One was one of the most rewarding factors of last year. They were, arguably, the team of the season. Williams, still with Felipe Massa and Valtteri Bottas, did not catch the eye in Jerez – for good reasons or bad. They were just their old solid selves but they have certainly made enough progress to suggest that they did not peak in 2014. They have added needed downforce and Pat Symonds, the chief technical officer, looks happy. 8 McLaren were right to hold on to Jenson Button The humiliation suffered by Jenson Button in having to wait until the end of the year before having his contract renewed dented the reputation of the McLaren chairman, Dennis. But at least he came up with the right solution, eventually. Button’s patient smile was a reminder that McLaren have just the right man aboard. The 2009 world champion’s vast experience will be vital in shaping the difficult immediate future of the new McLaren. 9 Lewis Hamilton will not be left out of the picture The double world champion is often fast and brilliant. When he fails, he often does so spectacularly. That’s what makes him the most compelling figure in the sport. Team-mate Nico Rosberg had the more successful time in Jerez, completing 100 more laps. But Hamilton, spinning off the track on the final day and breaking up with his girlfriend, stole the German’s thunder once again. 10 We have learned how little we know The oily rag rubbed his chin with weary boredom. “We won’t really know how good we are – how good anyone is – until Saturday and qualifying in Melbourne on 15 March,” he said. It’s the same message we hear every year, especially after the first testing session. Every team came here with different issues to overcome. They didn’t come to put on a show. But it was still rather worrying for two of the biggest rollers in town, Red Bull and McLaren. View Quote |
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"Alonso cuts inside of Vettel! They're coming out of turn three side by side, Vettel moves to the inside! And we'll be right back after this commercial break..." |
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"Alonso cuts inside of Vettel! They're coming out of turn three side by side, Vettel moves to the inside! And we'll be right back after this commercial break..." I don't think I watched a single race on NBC last season. The more I watch SkyF1 the harder it is to watch NBC. Still, I can't argue with numbers. I really wish there was a pay-per-view option in the US for Sky coverage. Like $20 for the whole weekend of just $15 for the race, I'd pay that just to not have commercials and to not have to listed to Hobbs or Matchett. The only thing about NBC that I miss is Will Buxton and his strange habit of sniffing microphones. |
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I don't think I watched a single race on NBC last season. The more I watch SkyF1 the harder it is to watch NBC. Still, I can't argue with numbers. I really wish there was a pay-per-view option in the US for Sky coverage. Like $20 for the whole weekend of just $15 for the race, I'd pay that just to not have commercials and to not have to listed to Hobbs or Matchett. The only thing about NBC that I miss is Will Buxton and his strange habit of sniffing microphones. View Quote I usually stream Sky F1 and listen to it during the NBC commercials. I watched a couple races while I was on vacation in Denmark last year. For a good hour or two before the race they would talk about Kevin Magnussen lol. Sometimes another name would come up, but mainly just Magnussen this, and Magnussen that. I think he is doing for F1 in Denmark, what Alonso did for F1 in Spain in 2004ish. |
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I usually stream Sky F1 and listen to it during the NBC commercials. I watched a couple races while I was on vacation in Denmark last year. For a good hour or two before the race they would talk about Kevin Magnussen lol. Sometimes another name would come up, but mainly just Magnussen this, and Magnussen that. I think he is doing for F1 in Denmark, what Alonso did for F1 in Spain in 2004ish. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't think I watched a single race on NBC last season. The more I watch SkyF1 the harder it is to watch NBC. Still, I can't argue with numbers. I really wish there was a pay-per-view option in the US for Sky coverage. Like $20 for the whole weekend of just $15 for the race, I'd pay that just to not have commercials and to not have to listed to Hobbs or Matchett. The only thing about NBC that I miss is Will Buxton and his strange habit of sniffing microphones. I usually stream Sky F1 and listen to it during the NBC commercials. I watched a couple races while I was on vacation in Denmark last year. For a good hour or two before the race they would talk about Kevin Magnussen lol. Sometimes another name would come up, but mainly just Magnussen this, and Magnussen that. I think he is doing for F1 in Denmark, what Alonso did for F1 in Spain in 2004ish. The Danes do love racing. I was always impressed with their presence at the 24 Hours of Le Mans. I understand why Magnussen is a reserve driver but I hope he has a bright future in F1. |
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The Danes do love racing. I was always impressed with their presence at the 24 Hours of Le Mans. I understand why Magnussen is a reserve driver but I hope he has a bright future in F1. View Quote Speaking of Danes and Le Mans, Jan just posted that a French team has purchased a C7.R and will be entering it in GTE AM this year. |
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View Quote Good stuff. I've been chasing him (in all of his different incarnations) around YouTube. Hopefully he can maintain a relatively stable presence via Wordpress. |
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Quoted: I usually stream Sky F1 and listen to it during the NBC commercials. I watched a couple races while I was on vacation in Denmark last year. For a good hour or two before the race they would talk about Kevin Magnussen lol. Sometimes another name would come up, but mainly just Magnussen this, and Magnussen that. I think he is doing for F1 in Denmark, what Alonso did for F1 in Spain in 2004ish. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I don't think I watched a single race on NBC last season. The more I watch SkyF1 the harder it is to watch NBC. Still, I can't argue with numbers. I really wish there was a pay-per-view option in the US for Sky coverage. Like $20 for the whole weekend of just $15 for the race, I'd pay that just to not have commercials and to not have to listed to Hobbs or Matchett. The only thing about NBC that I miss is Will Buxton and his strange habit of sniffing microphones. I usually stream Sky F1 and listen to it during the NBC commercials. I watched a couple races while I was on vacation in Denmark last year. For a good hour or two before the race they would talk about Kevin Magnussen lol. Sometimes another name would come up, but mainly just Magnussen this, and Magnussen that. I think he is doing for F1 in Denmark, what Alonso did for F1 in Spain in 2004ish. |
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I'd buy a movie ticket. |
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Marussia is now Manor Racing and has paid fee to go racing in 2015.
Sauber with a possible livery tweak? Their colors are too close to University of Michigan colors already and this puts them over the top for me The track in Melbourne is coming together, it's getting closer to racing time! Anyone like this Ferrari concept? Also of note is Chevrolet's new Aero for Indycar. |
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Quoted: Marussia is now Manor Racing and has paid fee to go racing in 2015. Sauber with a possible livery tweak? Their colors are too close to University of Michigan colors already and this puts them over the top for me http://youtu.be/ir3J9BP6_Xw The track in Melbourne is coming together, it's getting closer to racing time! Anyone like this Ferrari concept? http://i.imgur.com/7Lf4USY.png http://i.imgur.com/lumALOR.png Also of note is Chevrolet's new Aero for Indycar. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-DolPICAAA2Ra1.jpg:large View Quote I do like the Ferrari Concept though, and the front end of the Indy car is nice, the back though... |
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Quoted: Marussia is now Manor Racing and has paid fee to go racing in 2015. Sauber with a possible livery tweak? Their colors are too close to University of Michigan colors already and this puts them over the top for me http://youtu.be/ir3J9BP6_Xw The track in Melbourne is coming together, it's getting closer to racing time! Anyone like this Ferrari concept? http://i.imgur.com/7Lf4USY.png http://i.imgur.com/lumALOR.png Also of note is Chevrolet's new Aero for Indycar. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-DolPICAAA2Ra1.jpg:large View Quote The Ferrari concept was some real potential. Be nice it that go that direction and bring back the 8s, 10s and 12s. Maybe active suspension control too Indy cars have been butt ugly for quite a while, this is just an ever so much more ugliness. They should just go to a full blown Can-Am type car. They're pretty much headed that way already. |
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The Ferrari concept was some real potential. Be nice it that go that direction and bring back the 8s, 10s and 12s. Maybe active suspension control too Indy cars have been butt ugly for quite a while, this is just an ever so much more ugliness. They should just go to a full blown Can-Am type car. They're pretty much headed that way already. http://carmaautolife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Can-Am-corkscrew.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-DolPICAAA2Ra1.jpg:large View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Marussia is now Manor Racing and has paid fee to go racing in 2015. Sauber with a possible livery tweak? Their colors are too close to University of Michigan colors already and this puts them over the top for me http://youtu.be/ir3J9BP6_Xw The track in Melbourne is coming together, it's getting closer to racing time! Anyone like this Ferrari concept? http://i.imgur.com/7Lf4USY.png http://i.imgur.com/lumALOR.png Also of note is Chevrolet's new Aero for Indycar. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-DolPICAAA2Ra1.jpg:large The Ferrari concept was some real potential. Be nice it that go that direction and bring back the 8s, 10s and 12s. Maybe active suspension control too Indy cars have been butt ugly for quite a while, this is just an ever so much more ugliness. They should just go to a full blown Can-Am type car. They're pretty much headed that way already. http://carmaautolife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Can-Am-corkscrew.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-DolPICAAA2Ra1.jpg:large Don't tease me with ideas like that! |
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We are still looking for a couple people to do an ARFCOM F1/Indy fantasy season. It will work with five but will be more fun with a few more people.
You can sign up here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_125/1713331_2015_Open_Wheel_Fantasy_League__F1_and_Indy_.html |
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Damn I would Join, but I know nothing about Indy. View Quote It doesn't require weekly maintenance like fantasy football or anything. I ordered the drivers based on the standings last year. You could pick the highest Indy driver available and do okay. It would be a good way to get involved in Indy too. |
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I forgot about this moment from last year. Definitely a ship your pants moment.
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We are still looking for a couple people to do an ARFCOM F1/Indy fantasy season. It will work with five but will be more fun with a few more people. You can sign up here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_125/1713331_2015_Open_Wheel_Fantasy_League__F1_and_Indy_.html View Quote I might join up, if you justick drivers and run with them all season I'll join. The ones I have or update every week is a PITA, as in the summer I'm usually out on weekends. |
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I might join up, if you justick drivers and run with them all season I'll join. The ones I have or update every week is a PITA, as in the summer I'm usually out on weekends. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We are still looking for a couple people to do an ARFCOM F1/Indy fantasy season. It will work with five but will be more fun with a few more people. You can sign up here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_125/1713331_2015_Open_Wheel_Fantasy_League__F1_and_Indy_.html I might join up, if you justick drivers and run with them all season I'll join. The ones I have or update every week is a PITA, as in the summer I'm usually out on weekends. We have one slot left. You draft 2 F1 and 2 Indy drivers, you can trade or drop them if you want but there no need to update them after the draft. The only thing to do after the draft is make a pick for each race, you can make all your picks at the beginning of the season and not worry about it again if you prefer. Sorry to cut into your thread Plumber. On topic, former F1 drivers are mocking the helmet design rules: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/31526477 |
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We have one slot left. You draft 2 F1 and 2 Indy drivers, you can trade or drop them if you want but there no need to update them after the draft. The only thing to do after the draft is make a pick for each race, you can make all your picks at the beginning of the season and not worry about it again if you prefer. Sorry to cut into your thread Plumber. On topic, former F1 drivers are mocking the helmet design rules: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/31526477 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We are still looking for a couple people to do an ARFCOM F1/Indy fantasy season. It will work with five but will be more fun with a few more people. You can sign up here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_125/1713331_2015_Open_Wheel_Fantasy_League__F1_and_Indy_.html I might join up, if you justick drivers and run with them all season I'll join. The ones I have or update every week is a PITA, as in the summer I'm usually out on weekends. We have one slot left. You draft 2 F1 and 2 Indy drivers, you can trade or drop them if you want but there no need to update them after the draft. The only thing to do after the draft is make a pick for each race, you can make all your picks at the beginning of the season and not worry about it again if you prefer. Sorry to cut into your thread Plumber. On topic, former F1 drivers are mocking the helmet design rules: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/31526477 No apology necessary. Just let them change helmets. It's interesting and often done for a good cause. Stuff like this is just silly. |
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Going to Austin this year. Can. Not. Wait.
Just hope this year isnt another Mercedes 1-2 domination. |
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Quoted: The Ferrari concept was some real potential. Be nice it that go that direction and bring back the 8s, 10s and 12s. Maybe active suspension control too Indy cars have been butt ugly for quite a while, this is just an ever so much more ugliness. They should just go to a full blown Can-Am type car. They're pretty much headed that way already. http://carmaautolife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Can-Am-corkscrew.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-DolPICAAA2Ra1.jpg:large View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Marussia is now Manor Racing and has paid fee to go racing in 2015. Sauber with a possible livery tweak? Their colors are too close to University of Michigan colors already and this puts them over the top for me http://youtu.be/ir3J9BP6_Xw The track in Melbourne is coming together, it's getting closer to racing time! Anyone like this Ferrari concept? http://i.imgur.com/7Lf4USY.png http://i.imgur.com/lumALOR.png Also of note is Chevrolet's new Aero for Indycar. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-DolPICAAA2Ra1.jpg:large The Ferrari concept was some real potential. Be nice it that go that direction and bring back the 8s, 10s and 12s. Maybe active suspension control too Indy cars have been butt ugly for quite a while, this is just an ever so much more ugliness. They should just go to a full blown Can-Am type car. They're pretty much headed that way already. http://carmaautolife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Can-Am-corkscrew.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-DolPICAAA2Ra1.jpg:large the cars make roughly the same power as the F1 PU in the spyshots from the summer/fall, chevy went to a simpler front and rear wing set instead of the more F1 style setup. |
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Looks like poor hamilton had a fever...well bless his little heart
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Raikonnen wins the Day, Led the pack, no problems with the car.
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Quoted: Raikonnen wins the Day, Led the pack, no problems with the car. Crashanado did have the fastest lap, taking advantge of a new set of slicks, however red flagged and had to be flat bedded off twice or 3 times? Kimi and Seb may prove to be a hell of a team this year! View Quote |
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Raikonnen wins the Day, Led the pack, no problems with the car. Crashanado did have the fastest lap, taking advantge of a new set of slicks, however red flagged and had to be flat bedded off twice or 3 times? Kimi and Seb may prove to be a hell of a team this year! Didn't say they would take the WDC, just said they may prove to be a hell of a team. And Guaranteed Merc is Sandbagging. Just like I guarantee Williams is nowhere near as slow as they are starting either. |
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Barcelona Test comparison. Jerez wasn't worth comparing given that 2014 was the first time the totally new spec cars had run.
Nice improvement for Ferrari 2014 Raikkonen, Ferrari, 1:26.480, 94 laps.(day 2) 2105 K. Raikkonen Ferrari 01:25.167 74 laps 2014 Button, McLaren, 1m28.333s, 74 laps 2015 J. Button McLaren 01:28.182 21 Alonso is set to drive tomorrow. 2104 Rosberg, Mercedes, 1:25.805, 102 laps. (day2) Hamilton, Mercedes, 1m26.674, 79 laps (day1) 2015 P. Wehrlein Mercedes Grand Prix 01:28.489 48 L. Hamilton Mercedes Grand Prix 01:30.429 11 |
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Live Blog from testing
Red Bull is making up time and speed! http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/819 |
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Ricciardo And His RB 11 take the lap count and the fastest time today.
Kimi right behind him by a hundredth of a second. Per Autosport: Daniel Ricciardo finished quickest for Red Bull with a 1m24.574s, 0.010s clear of Kimi Raikkonen. Both laps were done on the softs. * Nico Rosberg completed 66 laps in the morning before ending his running as a precaution, so as not to aggravate his neck injury and ensure he is 100 per cent fit for Sunday's test. * Lewis Hamilton, who missed much of yesterday through illness, took over at Mercedes in the afternoon and along with Ricciardo focused on long runs. * McLaren said it is ’50 per cent’ behind schedule of where it had hoped to be in Formula 1 testing, despite an encouraging day. * Ferrari team principal Maurizio Arrivabene believes Formula 1 will see a new, happier Kimi Raikkonen this year. 17:06 Daniel Ricciardo finishes top of the pile on the lap count charts with 142 laps. Fernando Alonso brings up the rear on 59, but that tally is the highest McLaren has achieved on a single day in testing so far. Here is the day's final tally: Ricciardo 142 Perez 121 Ericsson 113 Sainz 100 Raikkonen 90 Hamilton 89 Massa 88 Palmer 77 Rosberg 66 Alonso 59 |
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Looks like Alonso had a crash during testing, he was airlifted to hospital for precaution....
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Looks like Alonso had a crash during testing, he was airlifted to hospital for precaution.... http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/22/fernando-alonso-airlifted-to-hospital-during-testing-in-barcelona/ That is a weird one.... "Something" happened before the wreck. The team is saying wind, but there is a lot of speculation. Probably no vid either... Crash sequence: |
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I don't want to knock NASCAR in the daytona 500 thread, but this got a laugh from me.
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I hope everybody who watched the Daytona 500 enjoyed the race and is in the mood for Formula 1 to get racing in less than 3 weeks!
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I don't want to knock NASCAR in the daytona 500 thread, but this got a laugh from me. Fake Charlie Whiting ?@charlie_whiting Ah, Green-White-Checkers. The lovechild of motorsport and professional wrestling. #Daytona500 I don't mind the GWC so much, as the throwing a yellow with three cars racing for the lead into turn 3. |
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