EBT with cash option. Also, edible dope could easily be run through on an EBT if a vendor plays his cards wrongly.

Right. And that precident is the amendment process. Legally, one has to change the Constitution through amendment to do things that document does not expressly allow. This principle is ignored, but it is the true lawful principle.

More of those "small gov. conservatives" you always hear about.....

Because legal drugs and a welfare state are awesome.

Don't take my word for it, ask any *school resource officer, these "crimes" often do not get reported with regular crime statistics, because they use arbitration between the school, parents, and drug & alcohol counselors. But, what do I know, I'm just a 2012'er. Almost every single source quoting teen use is down, gets their statistics from pro legalization sources. Remember legalization is a left wing ideology, so all of you so called Conservatives & Libertarians are using Liberal sources for your talking points. Almost every single website that states teenage use is down after legalization is using the same talking points from the same websites that the source material originated from. You are being duped into thinking teen use is down, because the Liberal agenda wants you to think that legalization works. They want the U.S. public, submissive, stoned, and craving more of these kind of "freedoms". Why do you think the FSA can use ATM's within these "pot clinics" to withdraw cash for pot. I thought you guys were original thinkers, you seem to be Libertarians with a Liberal mindset on some matters of "individual freedom". Watch out, this is how they get you, legalize the things you hold harmless.

*Let me clarify, ask any SRO that isn't a burnout, fat f8ck, pussy hound, that is actually proactive in that school. In Round Rock they built an entire brand new high school called "Success" at a $25 million dollar initial cost, it is an Alternative education center. Has anyone noticed a trend in these type of schools? Success high school has a 55% retention rate, that is one out of every two students leave after the first semester, I wonder what these scholars are doing when they leave.

In Colorado they have online high schools, alternative high schools, and high schools for older students. This is an uptake, trending towards these programs have increased for a reason.

Okay. I apologize. I understood your statement to mean that the Constitution doesn't have the ability to grant the Government the ability to restrict what a civilian can buy.

Hope you understood why I thought that.

Good.  As a Coloradoan I how they get the law overturned.

Just lots of cows and a few people were I'm at. I'd love to see a Nebraska with a bicameral system, a state senator for each county, and state representatives based off population.

Must not get out much. EBT fraud is huge. People use SNAP cards all the time to buy booze and smokes. The store owners are complacent in it. Is it illegal, yes, is it rampant, definitely.

The Constitution could allow the execution of every other citizen if it was amended as such. Until then, it would be unConstitutional.

"Re-interpretation" of the Constitution to get the powers one wants is not Constitutional. One has to change the law through the established amendment process to legally achieve that.

It'll be interesting to watch.

On the one hand, Colorado legalized an illegal drug, allows its purchase with taxpayer money (EBT), and is contributing to violation of neighboring state's laws by selling to people from out-of-state, and the situation only exists because the fedgov isn't enforcing fedgov laws in Colorado.  Colorado is flaunting federal law, and the feds are ignoring it.

One could compare it to Bloomberg going after gun sellers in other states - but the thing is the other states aren't in violation of any law in those cases.

Here, CO is in violation of federal drug law (regardless of one's love for bud or hate for reefer).


NE and OK are calling CO and more importantly the fedgov on their bullshit.  If the 10th applies, then NE and OK will enforce their laws, and CO will enforce theirs, and they'll have to learn to get along.  It'd mean the fedgov drug laws are invalid, along with plenty of other laws that the fedgov is selectively not enforcing.

If the 10th is ruled not to apply - like how Firearms Freedom Acts have been rendered meaningless challenges that would result in the ATF shooting your whole family - then we get rule of law, even if it's law some folks don't like.  That also means we won't have selective enforcement according to what party is in charge and what they feel like - because it's important to remember the CO only has pot because the DEA is being told not to enforce the law.  Pot and circuses and all that.  It'll also mean that CO can sue the fedgov for stepping on its state's rights and get a clear ruling rather than just ignoring laws they don't feel like - which probably would come down in CO's favor anyway.


The gnashing of teeth about conservatives telling Big Government to do it's job one way or the other is totally missing the point.  The feds are selectively enforcing the law.

If WI was suing IL for being a sanctuary state for illegal alien criminals who run back and forth from Milwaukee into Chicago and demanding that the fedgov do their job and deport them rather than ignore the law, no one would be screaming "oh noes the Republicans are just lying big government fascists who want to take away your gardener".  

HAHA the bat light.  That's a good one.

Maybe it was a bad example, but I am just tired of people claiming everything is a constitutional right, whether it is or not.  

Like the Democrats claiming healthcare or welfare is a constitutional right.

That's because Democrats think "Right to" = "Free shit", which if they applied that theory consistently would mean we should get free/subsidized guns for our RKBA.

No.  That's a bullshit twisting of the facts on par with "the gunshow loophole."  The real issue is people wanting to ban ATMs in the pot shops.



 

Like it or not, the ninth amendment really exists.



 

Yes legal drugs are awesome.  Incredibly awesome.  Why would people being free to enjoy what they want instead of going to prison be a bad thing.



 

Why do they hate Freedom in Oklahoma and Nebraska?

I don't care what ideology it is.  I love freedom.  A source being a pro legalization source is irrelevant.  Using that logic anything pro gun isnt to be trusted becasue its pro gun and therefore biased.  If the facts, reasoning and character of the source can be backed up it doesn't matter what the source is and what they believe.  Why are you putting freedoms is parenthesis?  What is wrong with craving more freedom?  What is wrong about not wanting to face years in prison becasue you want to enjoy the taboo drug instead of the much much worse legal drug.   You seem really really upset over freedom.  You say things like "this is how they get you" and "they want you submissive and stoned".  Legalization worked before and it will work again.  You almost sound like a troofer like this devil weed legalization is a conspiracy against us of some kind.



 

You would think Nebraska would try and get Omaha to follow Nebraska State law before going outside it's borders

 Not sure if sarcasm.

Like others in the thread have already said, there's a huge amount of fraud with the EBT/SNAP system.  It's incidental to the rest of it, it just serves as another factor that aggravates neighboring states - and goes to show that laws are being selectively left unenforced and rules are being ignored pretty much all around the pot business - that's why I added it.  In this case, it's welfare fraud going hand in hand with pot shops.

Pretty sure the real issue is people angry that the fedgov isn't enforcing laws uniformly and they either need to be enforced or repealed.

the federalits were bigger statists than the anti federalists.

you want to talk about welfare?  The WOD is one big make works program for the drug warriors, prison guards, lawyers etc.  We would all be better off if those people were provideing services/goods that other people were willing ot freely pay for.

freedom means freedom from coercion.  men w/ guns forcing you not to smoke weed, or stealing your property they find four plants groing in the back forty is the opposite of freedom.

obama care is also coercion.

 LOL



 Everyone west of Omaha (basically the whole state) is too scared and chicken shit to stand up to a 77 year old black man. I know Omaha has its liberal problems, but what is the excuse for the rest of the state? I think Nebraska as a whole just hates freedom.



 

The hell they could.

That has been my observation

I disagree.  I think it's more a matter of most of the state doing fairly well for themselves and generally not being the type to become activists or get agitated.  I'd say it's roughly like how the whole nation puts up with BS from DC, but because it's incremental, and they're not rock-the-boat type people, they just don't.

ETA: I'd liken it to IL and Chicago as well.  And I do know quite a few Nebraskans.

Ernie be one dude

Hows mean jean doing ..... LMAO

Yep,the State is all about coercion-everything they do is backed by the threat of violence.

You just need to look at the unicameral districts to know what the issue is. Lincoln and Omaha have all the population. No one at the Unicameral gives two fucks about what people outside of those cities want. I love it when a Governor went to Grand Island and talked about being in 'Western Nebraska' 49 State Senators make up the Unicameral and 27 (55%) are directly in the Omaha or Lincoln metro areas. Include the outlying districts and it's even worse.

And compared to our average "moderate" politician of today, the federalists were wide eyed radical libertarians.

Ernie is just one dude, but he sure seems to be effective.



Jean is better than the alternative, but she still hasn't gotten rid of Omaha's stupid hand gun registration.



 

yeah, though very conservatieve in many respects, like family/church etc, much of the midwest is of the "progressive farmer" mentality, a real sense of civic resposibility and desire for "fairness" etc which lent itself to the new deal type way of thinking.  I guess it has something to do w/ the German and scandinavian majority that settled these places??

darn, I didn't realize it was that bad in NE too.   Simialr to Chicago w/ IL, STL & KC w/ MO, NYC w/ NY, SW Cal w/ the rest of Californa, and on and on.  I really wish cities could be more seperate w/ the rural areas w/ more autonomy.

also, to the OP, I hae no idea why KS and NE are complying

think of all the extra federal grand money they get for drug arrests and all the cash siezier they get to do intercepting mules w/ money heading west.  You'd think they'd be happy.

No one west of Omaha is afraid of Ernie.  All of Omaha (and probably Lincoln) is afraid of Ernie.  You all are part of the problem.  You are entrenched in your political correct, trying to be big city, stupidity that you don't realize that it doesn't fucking matter.

Way to lead the state...Always one step behind on fucking everything.

however I think  their registration is on its last legs and I think only another test case or two away from folding
The city has blinked in regards to out of state/town CCW holders having to register  and to their ban on non-citizen registration



but its hard to find people willing to fight as the city offers sweetheart plea deals on non registration arrests as they do not want it to go to court , and then give standing for someone to sue





Which Bruning ( I am no fan of the guy ) said he would back , but said he could not  go after Omaha on this one without someone with standing to sue





or the unicameral can pass a 3rd law telling Omaha they can't make their own firearms laws



FWIW Lincoln has registration too but there is no teeth to the law as far as an individual goes

they can only go after firearms dealers that do not comply
 

Does pot attract all sex offenders, or just black men to white women?

Nebraska and Oklahoma are full of meth and they're worried about Colorado weed.

Pathetic
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/06/26/325489951/excessive-drinking-causes-10-percent-of-deaths-in-working-adults
Think about people dying from drinking too much, and you probably think of the classic disease of alcoholics, cirrhosis of the liver. Or perhaps an alcohol-fueled car crash. But there are many more ways to kill yourself with alcohol, unfortunately, and they account for 1 in 10 deaths in working-age adults, according to a study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"One in 10 is a big number," says Dr. Robert Brewer, who leads the alcohol program at the CDC and is an author of the study, published Thursday in Preventing Chronic Disease. "One of the issues with alcohol that is particularly tragic is the extent to which it gets people in the prime of their lives."

And those premature deaths cost the United States $224 billion a year, the report found, or $1.90 a drink.

The report underscores that alcohol is the fourth-largest cause of preventable deaths, behind smoking, poor nutrition and lack of activity.
This looks like way more than one too many.
Shots - Health News
So Are 2 Drinks A Day Really Too Many?

The CDC researchers looked at how alcohol affects deaths from chronic diseases, from high blood pressure and stroke to breast cancer. And it also looked at acute causes of death, like motor vehicle accidents. In those cases, they included deaths where the medical examiner found a blood-alcohol level of at least 0.10 percent, above the legal limit of 0.08. Those causes of death also included falls; homicides; poisoning that involved pills or other substances along with alcohol; and suicides.

From 2006 through 2010, an average of 87,798 deaths were attributed to alcohol each year, the study found. Almost three-quarters of the deaths, 71 percent, were in men. Men tend to drink more and also to drive more, Brewer says, and are also more likely to be involved in homicides.

Some states have much bigger problems with alcohol-caused deaths than others. In New Mexico, 16.4 percent of deaths in the 20-to-64 age range were caused by alcohol. Other Western states, including Montana and Wyoming, weren't far behind. (For more states, see the chart below.)

By contrast, just 7.5 percent of Maryland's deaths were attributable to alcohol, less than half the rate in New Mexico. Other states with low rates of alcohol-related deaths include New York, New Jersey, Ohio and Indiana.

Rural states where people drive long distances have more problems with drunken driving, but state policies can have a big impact, too, Brewer says. Raising the cost of alcohol by 10 percent can lower consumption by 7 percent. But taxes on alcohol tend to be low compared with those on cigarettes.

If that news isn't sobering enough, the 1-in-10 number is almost certainly an underestimate, Brewer says, because the CDC didn't include other causes of death in younger adults, including HIV/AIDS, pneumonia and tuberculosis. "Alcohol is a major factor in deaths from those conditions," Brewer told Shots. "But when we were doing our scientific analyses, we simply didn't have good estimates" on the number of those deaths caused by heavy drinking.

You keep making that assertion, yet you haven't cited a single one.

Tell me, for the sake of argument, what would happen if a particular State never had a law against something that the Feds outlawed?  That is, the Feds banned something and then the theoretical State in question just didn't follow suit?

Would that State be in violation of the US Constitution by not passing a law against it?

Stomp out the competition!!!!!!

Fuck Colorado and their pot smoking freedom loving hippies!!!!!  Fuck'em!!!!!

Feds: Native American Tribes Can Make Their Own Marijuana Laws

GRANTS PASS, Ore. (AP) — The U.S. Justice Department said Thursday Indian tribes can grow and sell marijuana on their lands as long as they follow the same federal conditions laid out for states that have legalized the drug.

Oregon U.S. Attorney Amanda Marshall said Thursday the announcement addresses questions raised by tribes about how legalization of pot in states like Oregon, Washington and Colorado would apply to Indian lands.

Only three tribes have expressed interest in growing and selling marijuana, said Marshall, who co-chaired a group that developed the policy. One is in California, one in Washington state and one in the Midwest. She did not name them.

"That's been the primary message tribes are getting to us as U.S. attorneys," Marshall said from Portland. "What will the U.S. as federal partners do to assist tribes in protecting our children and families, our tribal businesses, our tribal housing? How will you help us combat marijuana abuse in Indian County when states are no longer there to partner with us?"

Marshall warned the announcement is not a green light to tribal authorities — and that marijuana is still illegal under federal law. The U.S. government's prosecution priorities involve pot-related gang activity, violence, sales to kids and trafficking continue, she said.

Problems could arise for tribes with lands in states that still outlaw marijuana, due to the likelihood that marijuana could be transported or sold outside tribal boundaries, she added.

Seattle attorney Anthony Broadman, whose firm represents tribal governments throughout the West, said the announcement represents a "potential for an enormous economic development tool here.

"If tribes can balance all the potential social issues, it could be a really huge opportunity," Broadman said.

But those social issues are monumental.

"Indian tribes have been decimated by drug use," Broadman said. "Tribal regulations of pot are going to have to dovetail with tribal values, making sure marijuana isn't a scourge like alcohol or tobacco."

Tribes selling marijuana may not be subject to state and local taxes, allowing them to undercut off-reservation sales. In Washington, taxes add 25 percent to the price of pot. But Alison Holcomb, a primary drafter of Washington state's legalization measure, said most people in larger states won't want to drive to far-flung reservations to buy pot.

"The reality is that so much of the market depends on convenience, it's not just price that drives consumer choices," Holcomb said.

The Yakama Nation in Washington state recently passed a ban on marijuana on the reservation and is trying to halt state regulated pot sales and grows on lands off the reservation where it still holds hunting and fishing rights. The Hoopa Valley Tribe in Northern California has battled illegal pot plantations on its reservation, where they cause environmental damage.

Marshall said with 566 tribes around the country recognized by the federal government, there will be a lot of consulting going on between tribes and federal prosecutors. As sovereign nations, some tribes have their own police, some rely on federal law enforcement, and some call in state and local police.

With limited resources and vast amounts of territory to cover, federal prosecutors will not prosecute minor cases, Marshall said.

The tribal policy is based on the so-called "Cole Memo" of August 2013, named after the deputy attorney general who wrote it, in which the Justice Department said the federal government wouldn't intervene as long as legalization states tightly regulate the drug and take steps to keep it from children, criminal cartels and federal property.

In all, the memo said, U.S. attorneys reserve the right to prosecute for eight issues: Sales to kids, marijuana proceeds going to criminal enterprises, shipping marijuana to states where it is illegal, illegal sales, firearms and violence, drugged driving and other public health issues, growing marijuana on public lands and possession of marijuana on federal property

Modern social conservatives are such hypocrites.  In reality they serve as conservators of past progressive agenda.  The whole theory of the WoD/abortion banning/gay marriage banning is progressive in nature.

If you subscribe to the bs Wickard v Filburn version of the commerce clause.

The initial purpose of the commerce clause was to regulate commerce... As in, keeping it regular. They kept commerce regular by preventing states from imposing embargoes and tariffs on each other. If georgia were to put a 10% tarrif on goods from Florida, then the federal government could cite the commerce clause when it subsequently tells the Ga state government to quit dicking around.

I've read that same bullshit argument more times than I can count. "Yeah well (insert something you want banned) isn't protected by the constitution like guns are herp derp.."

It's a shame that so few people have actually read the 9th Amendment.

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

I really do find it funny how these conservative "get the oppressive federal govt off my back" states are suddenly all crying to the feds to make their neighboring state enforce federal laws.  I really do