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Posted: 12/17/2014 1:56:39 PM EDT
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What's he doing that's illegal? Last I checked it was legal to say mean things about the government. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Guy filming needs a taste of the taser too. What's he doing that's illegal? Last I checked it was legal to say mean things about the government. If you wanna watch, watch. If you wanna encourage someone who is actively fighting with the police to continue fighting and encourage them by saying several times "fuck the police, get him TB", then you can take a ride too. It is not legal to encourage, incite or promote breaking the law. Fighting with a police officer is against the law. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 1:58:50 PM EDT
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If you wanna watch, watch. If you wanna encourage someone who is actively fighting with the police to continue fighting and encourage them by saying several times "fuck the police, get him TB", then you can take a ride too. It is not legal to encourage, incite or promote breaking the law. Fighting with a police officer is against the law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Guy filming needs a taste of the taser too. What's he doing that's illegal? Last I checked it was legal to say mean things about the government. If you wanna watch, watch. If you wanna encourage someone who is actively fighting with the police to continue fighting and encourage them by saying several times "fuck the police, get him TB", then you can take a ride too. It is not legal to encourage, incite or promote breaking the law. Fighting with a police officer is against the law. Note for future: So Fuck the Police is legal, but Git that N word is a crime. Check. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 2:00:04 PM EDT
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Quit talkin' about me.  Just kidding. I saw cops this morning on the way to work. Guilty as charged about liking porn and tending to get pissed when I see folks get hurt without a good reason.......which is NOT what's in this video. I agree with the guy that says Officer should have put him down as soon as his buddy got KOd.
We don't pay cops to fight criminals. We pay them to stop and catch the fuckers, and I figure any time someone knowingly fights a cop he's eventually gonna go for the cop's gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only difference between those dindus and cop haters here is that those dindus aren't fat and dont live in their moms basement. And those dindus are willing to fight the cops over stupid shit where the basement dwellers probably prefer to act like the cameraman. That's because the basement dwellers think about acting, but lack the balls to do so. Or they haven't actually seen a police officer in the line of duty since 2004 and are addicted to porn and outrage. Quit talkin' about me. Just kidding. I saw cops this morning on the way to work. Guilty as charged about liking porn and tending to get pissed when I see folks get hurt without a good reason.......which is NOT what's in this video. I agree with the guy that says Officer should have put him down as soon as his buddy got KOd.
We don't pay cops to fight criminals. We pay them to stop and catch the fuckers, and I figure any time someone knowingly fights a cop he's eventually gonna go for the cop's gun. Yup. It would have been legal and right. The folks calling Wilson and the herd of cops on the SI case killers are pointing to these guys as an example of how to deal with Large angry (black) people. I am still of the opinion the SI killing was murder. but if the officers had killed ths one, I'd call it good shoot. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 2:00:48 PM EDT
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If you wanna watch, watch. If you wanna encourage someone who is actively fighting with the police to continue fighting and encourage them by saying several times "fuck the police, get him TB", then you can take a ride too. It is not legal to encourage, incite or promote breaking the law. Fighting with a police officer is against the law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Guy filming needs a taste of the taser too. What's he doing that's illegal? Last I checked it was legal to say mean things about the government. If you wanna watch, watch. If you wanna encourage someone who is actively fighting with the police to continue fighting and encourage them by saying several times "fuck the police, get him TB", then you can take a ride too. It is not legal to encourage, incite or promote breaking the law. Fighting with a police officer is against the law. Unless it's a sting, then the cops dindu nuffin. When all the person is doing is talking, it smells like the 1A to me all day long. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 2:02:25 PM EDT
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It would have been a good shoot. But because of the gentle giant in Missouri every cop is twice shy about shooting another black felon. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 2:11:12 PM EDT
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I'd say he'd be ok, the force rose to deadly at that moment didn't it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Am I wrong for thinking that in the moment immediately after the thug knocked out the officer that the other officer should have drawn his weapon and shot the said thug? Good luck with that plan. Someone trying to run you over with their car is deadly force too. 
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Posted: 12/17/2014 2:12:11 PM EDT
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Guy filming needs a taste of the taser too. What's he doing that's illegal? Vertical video. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 2:16:31 PM EDT
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Guy filming needs a taste of the taser too. What's he doing that's illegal? Vertical video. Good taze.
BTW, what were they taking the guy in for I wonder? |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 2:36:57 PM EDT
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I made an assumption before I clicked on the link and I was correct
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Posted: 12/17/2014 3:00:16 PM EDT
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Not LAPD BTW. Community college police from a near by campus. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 3:02:54 PM EDT
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I think basic wrestling training is more in order for LE that anything I generally see being taught....double leg would have worked wonders...distraction slap to the face and shoot in.
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Posted: 12/17/2014 3:28:24 PM EDT
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I think basic wrestling training is more in order for LE that anything I generally see being taught.... It would certainly be an improvement over the nothing we had. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 3:38:20 PM EDT
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It would certainly be an improvement over the nothing we had. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think basic wrestling training is more in order for LE that anything I generally see being taught.... It would certainly be an improvement over the nothing we had. Thats no good. We've started incorporating some simple grappling into our defensive tactics yearly training. VERY simple shoulder pin and some take down techniques. But honestly at this point it is more for the officer to defend the take down, not utilize as an offensive measure. Also defense against rear naked choke. Some of us train year around in various combat sports, but the VAST majority of LE from my experience have little interest so we gotta keep it simple. It can be frustrating when you're trying to get guys/gals into learning some stuff to protect them, yet some have VERY VERY little interest. Go figure...
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Posted: 12/17/2014 3:39:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would require 50% of Arfcom to like young black males more than cops. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 50% of arf.com is really happy after seeing that video. That would require 50% of Arfcom to like young black males more than cops.  |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 3:59:59 PM EDT
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Unless you cause a decent amount of bodily harm, getting fights are a misdemeanor, even with a random person. Maybe in your state... my state makes battery on an LEO a felony. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 4:22:21 PM EDT
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Batons look bad on video, especially in L.A. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't they have batons? That woulda put a quick end to the resistance. Batons look bad on video, especially in L.A. I haven't seen a baton since Rodney King. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 4:30:58 PM EDT
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Serious question - what should the cops have done? Net Gun FTW 
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Posted: 12/17/2014 4:39:11 PM EDT
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Note for future: So Fuck the Police is legal, but Git that N word is a crime. Check. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Guy filming needs a taste of the taser too. What's he doing that's illegal? Last I checked it was legal to say mean things about the government. If you wanna watch, watch. If you wanna encourage someone who is actively fighting with the police to continue fighting and encourage them by saying several times "fuck the police, get him TB", then you can take a ride too. It is not legal to encourage, incite or promote breaking the law. Fighting with a police officer is against the law. Note for future: So Fuck the Police is legal, but Git that N word is a crime. Check. No, context means everything. "Fuck da police, fuck da police, fuck da police, get that n***** TB, get him, hit him TB, get him, get him, fuck da police, fuck da police, fuck 'em, fuck 'em, n***** they over there shooting black people, n***** fuck da police". If you want to encourage someone to engage in criminal activity such as battery or assault (depending on what each state may call it) on an LEO, that is not a 1st amendment issue. If you want to watch, watch. If you want to incite, then be prepared to be dragged into a situation you created. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 5:05:03 PM EDT
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We've started incorporating some simple grappling into our defensive tactics yearly training. VERY simple shoulder pin and some take down techniques. But honestly at this point it is more for the officer to defend the take down, not utilize as an offensive measure. Also defense against rear naked choke. Some of us train year around in various combat sports, but the VAST majority of LE from my experience have little interest so we gotta keep it simple. It can be frustrating when you're trying to get guys/gals into learning some stuff to protect them, yet some have VERY VERY little interest. Go figure... I went out and got training myself. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 5:36:02 PM EDT
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That was sadly handled.
I dont think lethal force was justified or necessary. A true beat down was absolutely warranted though. Those cops were lost. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 5:51:39 PM EDT
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Maybe in your state... my state makes battery on an LEO a felony. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unless you cause a decent amount of bodily harm, getting fights are a misdemeanor, even with a random person. Maybe in your state... my state makes battery on an LEO a felony. I don't think he is with us anymore. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 6:00:32 PM EDT
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so sad
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Posted: 12/17/2014 6:05:20 PM EDT
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I'm sorry but those cops need a lot more training. That guy should have been on the ground within seconds. I've been fighting for years and that dude didnt even know what he was doing. Sucks but john law need a few lessons in combatives.
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Posted: 12/17/2014 6:09:33 PM EDT
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I'm all for the cops they should have killed him
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Posted: 12/17/2014 6:10:58 PM EDT
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Police are probably too scared now to use lethal force? It's sad to say, but that's the truth right there ^^^. I also think that these people breaking the law are using it to their advantage.  
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:03:37 PM EDT
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I guess sap gloves aren't allowed anywhere anymore
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:09:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, context means everything. "Fuck da police, fuck da police, fuck da police, get that n***** TB, get him, hit him TB, get him, get him, fuck da police, fuck da police, fuck 'em, fuck 'em, n***** they over there shooting black people, n***** fuck da police". If you want to encourage someone to engage in criminal activity such as battery or assault (depending on what each state may call it) on an LEO, that is not a 1st amendment issue. If you want to watch, watch. If you want to incite, then be prepared to be dragged into a situation you created. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Guy filming needs a taste of the taser too. What's he doing that's illegal? Last I checked it was legal to say mean things about the government. If you wanna watch, watch. If you wanna encourage someone who is actively fighting with the police to continue fighting and encourage them by saying several times "fuck the police, get him TB", then you can take a ride too. It is not legal to encourage, incite or promote breaking the law. Fighting with a police officer is against the law. Note for future: So Fuck the Police is legal, but Git that N word is a crime. Check. No, context means everything. "Fuck da police, fuck da police, fuck da police, get that n***** TB, get him, hit him TB, get him, get him, fuck da police, fuck da police, fuck 'em, fuck 'em, n***** they over there shooting black people, n***** fuck da police". If you want to encourage someone to engage in criminal activity such as battery or assault (depending on what each state may call it) on an LEO, that is not a 1st amendment issue. If you want to watch, watch. If you want to incite, then be prepared to be dragged into a situation you created. If you really believe that I have some music on my Iphone that would absolutely blow your mind. May even be a hidden message somewhere in all of my posts. Its a 1A issue. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:27:50 PM EDT
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Should have shot him.
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:33:28 PM EDT
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Guy filming needs a taste of the taser too. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:42:16 PM EDT
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Sabetta from Foster PD. Happened around 1995 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When did it become OK to fight the police? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This will piss some off. But some cops need to be knocked the fuck out. Advocating felony battery on an LEO. Bye. Back 15 years ago (who knows, maybe it was closer to 20), just over the border into RI, a local officer had a beef of some sort with some local guys (everybody might have been in their early 20s or so). Well, the cop ended up doing something to warrant getting disciplined or suspended (can't remember exactly what) because of his interaction with the guys in question, so he went to the auto shop two of the guys worked at and killed one or two of them. IIRC, the officer ended up committing suicide in prison. That LEO deserved much more than being "knocked the fuck out." He deserved to be planted by someone CCWing. Sabetta from Foster PD. Happened around 1995 Thank you, good sir. It's been a while since that happened. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:48:57 PM EDT
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too bad he didnt KO both and walk off like
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:55:26 PM EDT
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too bad he didnt KO both and walk off like http://gifstumblr.com/images/haters-gonna-hate_499.gif Why 'too bad'? |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 6:37:57 AM EDT
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When did it become OK to fight the police? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile <Remarks removed CoC #4 -NorCal>. Why? You approved of his comment? |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:41:31 AM EDT
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When did it become OK to fight the police? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile <Remarks removed CoC #4 -NorCal>. Why? You approved of his comment? He wasn't asking why it was removed, he was referring to the original comment. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:52:42 AM EDT
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too bad he didnt KO both and walk off like http://gifstumblr.com/images/haters-gonna-hate_499.gif Why 'too bad'? cause he is a banned piece of shit. good riddence. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 9:00:30 AM EDT
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Every LEO in america should call in sick on the same day.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 12:31:04 PM EDT
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I went out and got training myself. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We've started incorporating some simple grappling into our defensive tactics yearly training. VERY simple shoulder pin and some take down techniques. But honestly at this point it is more for the officer to defend the take down, not utilize as an offensive measure. Also defense against rear naked choke. Some of us train year around in various combat sports, but the VAST majority of LE from my experience have little interest so we gotta keep it simple. It can be frustrating when you're trying to get guys/gals into learning some stuff to protect them, yet some have VERY VERY little interest. Go figure... I went out and got training myself. Good call. While "failure to train" concept may help the civil suit later, the proceeds may well go to your next of kin... I've never understood the "If the PD don't give it to me or train me then I ain't spending my time/energy/$ on it..." mindset. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:36:15 PM EDT
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He wasn't asking why it was removed, he was referring to the original comment. Ah, ok |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:01:18 PM EDT
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too bad he didnt KO both and walk off like http://gifstumblr.com/images/haters-gonna-hate_499.gif <As your warning for "Fuck the Police" didn't sink in, you are now banned from the site. I'm guessing you will miss the EE. --tbk1> 
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:49:13 PM EDT
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from the comments...
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:53:11 PM EDT
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Every LEO in america should call in sick on the same day. For peak effectiveness, they should do a rolling sick. Start on the east coast and follow the sunset to the west coast. That would mean no police at peak activity times and they might actually get a good night's sleep. Course, they would not have a job or even a building to go to in the morning. 
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Posted: 12/18/2014 10:51:31 PM EDT
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too bad he didnt KO both and walk off like http://gifstumblr.com/images/haters-gonna-hate_499.gif <As your warning for "Fuck the Police" didn't sink in, you are now banned from the site. I'm guessing you will miss the EE. --tbk1> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/Extorris/Gifs/BoomHeadShot_zpsf2ca096c.gif 
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