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Posted: 12/13/2014 2:09:24 AM EDT
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THe sight radius on an AK is nearly identical to the sight radius on an AR carbine. http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g60/azoutdoorsman/sightradiusARAK.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Terrible sights, short sight radius, horrible trigger, horrible safety, magazine retained by a protrusion rather than depression, charging handle on wrong side, terrible for mounting optics and they smell like communism. ETA but don't tell my M92 PAP I said those hateful things. It might reject my Form 1  THe sight radius on an AK is nearly identical to the sight radius on an AR carbine. http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g60/azoutdoorsman/sightradiusARAK.jpg I did not make a comparison. I made an absolute statement. So the sight radius, on both, sucks. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 2:12:08 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I own AK's and FAL's.......I don't own a single AR.  Throw AKs into trash. Sell FALs. Buy AR15.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 2:14:27 AM EDT
[#3]
I love shooting my AK way more than my AR.... The low cheek weld, the signature kick it produces, the sound.
Being left handed, I get to witness the reciprocation of the charging handle. 
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Posted: 12/13/2014 2:15:58 AM EDT
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Throw AKs into trash. Sell FALs. Buy AR15. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I own AK's and FAL's.......I don't own a single AR. Throw AKs into trash. Sell FALs. Buy AR15. Not a FAL, but similar. Sort of . Would not trade for AR. 
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Posted: 12/13/2014 2:20:42 AM EDT
[#5]
I wouldn't say I hate them but I just don't like them very much. They feel old, flimsy, cheap, and just generally shitty to me.
I know they have a purpose, but so does a hi point.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 2:32:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Throw AKs into trash. (No....) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I own AK's and FAL's.......I don't own a single AR. Throw AKs into trash. (No....) Sell FALs. (FUCK NO!) Buy AR15. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 2:35:46 AM EDT
[#7]
Because 'Murica.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 2:49:03 AM EDT
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I did not make a comparison. I made an absolute statement. So the sight radius, on both, sucks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Terrible sights, short sight radius, horrible trigger, horrible safety, magazine retained by a protrusion rather than depression, charging handle on wrong side, terrible for mounting optics and they smell like communism. ETA but don't tell my M92 PAP I said those hateful things. It might reject my Form 1 THe sight radius on an AK is nearly identical to the sight radius on an AR carbine. http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g60/azoutdoorsman/sightradiusARAK.jpg I did not make a comparison. I made an absolute statement. So the sight radius, on both, sucks. haha gotcha. I'm so used to these threads being nothing but AR vs AK that I had just assumed that's where you were going with it |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 3:26:01 AM EDT
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because it is the face of the commies but it is silly to hate an object I came here to post "Because it's the bad guy's gun." |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 3:29:23 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You should have bought Yugo parts kits when they were cheap, then you could have built them at home Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't hate AKs. I just hate the Yugo I have because it's a Century fucked piece of shit and unreliable  You should have bought Yugo parts kits when they were cheap, then you could have built them at home |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 3:35:24 AM EDT
[#11]
Put me in combat I'll take an AK. For surgical accuracy I'll keep my ARs
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Posted: 12/13/2014 3:51:49 AM EDT
[#12]
It's a shitty communist design, built with communist quality control, with antiquated ergonomics, and crappy optics mounting.
The only decent AKs are those built by the Finns (and the Israeli derivatives) and the Swiss. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 4:09:53 AM EDT
[#13]
I love mine, they are so damn fun to shoot.
When i head to the range i pick the AK over the AR 80% of the time |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 4:11:19 AM EDT
[#14]
I don't hate them.
I've procrastinated buying because I wasn't sure I wanted to dive into another cartridge. I want to rebuild/refinish one though.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 5:19:52 AM EDT
[#15]
Love me some AKs. I actually prefer AK ergos over the AR's.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 5:23:11 AM EDT
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I don't really hate AK's. I have 3 of them. 2 AKM's and one Arsenal SLR 104FR. However; from a standpoint of which rifle is more effectve:
AR is better at mounting optics AR is better at replacement of critical parts, or replacement of parts, period. AR is better from a logistical standpoint since most parts for it are made here in America, and there's hundreds of manufacturers. AR has a much better safety, right out of the box. AK safety sucks, and sucks less if you install a Kreb's safety. AR is much more accurate, and can be properly free-floated. With much better rail systems. AR is much better in terms of manipulation. Drop-free mags, and bolt release in a convenient location. AK doesn't even have at least a 'last round hold open'. At least not without surgery to modify the rifle. AR is much easier to mount a suppressor to. AR has much more effective range when compared to 7.62 AK's. Just marginally better when comparing to a 5.45 or 5.56 AK. As a ranch rifle or just for fun? Sure, AK's are alright for that. Serious shit? Nope, going the AR route. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 5:26:52 AM EDT
[#17]
I don't hate them, it is just that almost every other rifle is so much better.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 5:29:57 AM EDT
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Love me some AKs. I actually prefer AK ergos over the AR's. Take a carbine course Come back 
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Posted: 12/13/2014 5:39:53 AM EDT
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I don't hate them but as said, now that a cheap, shitty WASR costs more than a mid range AR like a S&W sport, I have no interest in one.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 5:54:02 AM EDT
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I love shooting my AK way more than my AR.... The low cheek weld, the signature kick it produces, the sound. Being left handed, I get to witness the reciprocation of the charging handle.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:13:43 AM EDT
[#21]
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I don't really hate AK's. I have 3 of them. 2 AKM's and one Arsenal SLR 104FR. However; from a standpoint of which rifle is more effectve: AR is better at mounting optics AR is better at replacement of critical parts, or replacement of parts, period. AR is better from a logistical standpoint since most parts for it are made here in America, and there's hundreds of manufacturers. AR has a much better safety, right out of the box. AK safety sucks, and sucks less if you install a Kreb's safety. AR is much more accurate, and can be properly free-floated. With much better rail systems. AR is much better in terms of manipulation. Drop-free mags, and bolt release in a convenient location. AK doesn't even have at least a 'last round hold open'. At least not without surgery to modify the rifle. AR is much easier to mount a suppressor to. AR has much more effective range when compared to 7.62 AK's. Just marginally better when comparing to a 5.45 or 5.56 AK. As a ranch rifle or just for fun? Sure, AK's are alright for that. Serious shit? Nope, going the AR route. 
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:17:31 AM EDT
[#22]
Some very convincing arguments here. My AK is in the trash can.
 Now all I have left is the Mini 14.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:20:23 AM EDT
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I don't really hate AK's. I have 3 of them. 2 AKM's and one Arsenal SLR 104FR. However; from a standpoint of which rifle is more effectve: AR is better at mounting optics AR is better at replacement of critical parts, or replacement of parts, period. AR is better from a logistical standpoint since most parts for it are made here in America, and there's hundreds of manufacturers. AR has a much better safety, right out of the box. AK safety sucks, and sucks less if you install a Kreb's safety. AR is much more accurate, and can be properly free-floated. With much better rail systems. AR is much better in terms of manipulation. Drop-free mags, and bolt release in a convenient location. AK doesn't even have at least a 'last round hold open'. At least not without surgery to modify the rifle. AR is much easier to mount a suppressor to. AR has much more effective range when compared to 7.62 AK's. Just marginally better when comparing to a 5.45 or 5.56 AK. As a ranch rifle or just for fun? Sure, AK's are alright for that. Serious shit? Nope, going the AR route. http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2012-11-02095739.jpg Could've just bought a 6920 and added a drop-in rail for wayyyy cheaper.
Still has a less than great reciprocating charging handle setup, crappy safety; and, less than stellar barrel harmonics, too. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:23:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryIt wants to be an AR so much, but garbage will always be garbage, no matter how hard it tries. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:25:30 AM EDT
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Designed for peasants...on a potato.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:26:40 AM EDT
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It wants to be an AR so much, but garbage will always be garbage though, no matter how it tries. Quote HistoryQuoted:
It wants to be an AR so much, but garbage will always be garbage though, no matter how it tries. Wonder how much that red headed step child weighs, too... |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:27:12 AM EDT
[#27]
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Could've just bought a 6920 and added a drop-in rail for wayyyy cheaper.
Still has a less than great reciprocating charging handle setup, crappy safety; and, less than stellar barrel harmonics, too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't really hate AK's. I have 3 of them. 2 AKM's and one Arsenal SLR 104FR. However; from a standpoint of which rifle is more effectve: AR is better at mounting optics AR is better at replacement of critical parts, or replacement of parts, period. AR is better from a logistical standpoint since most parts for it are made here in America, and there's hundreds of manufacturers. AR has a much better safety, right out of the box. AK safety sucks, and sucks less if you install a Kreb's safety. AR is much more accurate, and can be properly free-floated. With much better rail systems. AR is much better in terms of manipulation. Drop-free mags, and bolt release in a convenient location. AK doesn't even have at least a 'last round hold open'. At least not without surgery to modify the rifle. AR is much easier to mount a suppressor to. AR has much more effective range when compared to 7.62 AK's. Just marginally better when comparing to a 5.45 or 5.56 AK. As a ranch rifle or just for fun? Sure, AK's are alright for that. Serious shit? Nope, going the AR route. http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2012-11-02095739.jpg Could've just bought a 6920 and added a drop-in rail for wayyyy cheaper.
Still has a less than great reciprocating charging handle setup, crappy safety; and, less than stellar barrel harmonics, too. I can build a better rifle than the crap Colt puts out for less. I still prefer the stock and handguards of an AK over all of the numerous ARs I have shot. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:29:09 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted:I still prefer the stock and handguards of an AK over all of the numerous ARs I have shot. Your preferences are wrong.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:29:19 AM EDT
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I can build a better rifle than the crap Colt puts out for less. I still prefer the stock and handguards of an AK over all of the numerous ARs I have shot. Ok, don't buy a Colt. Buy or build something else. How do you mount IR equipment on a standard AK handgaurd? |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:30:44 AM EDT
[#30]
I don't hate them, I just think there are a half dozen other weapons I'd take to war before taking an AK.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:33:20 AM EDT
[#31]
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Ok, don't buy a Colt. Buy or build something else. How do you mount IR equipment on a standard AK handgaurd? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can build a better rifle than the crap Colt puts out for less. I still prefer the stock and handguards of an AK over all of the numerous ARs I have shot. Ok, don't buy a Colt. Buy or build something else. How do you mount IR equipment on a standard AK handgaurd? RS Products BM1. Don't mod the handguards. Alternately, ultimak with a 90* offset rail. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:34:23 AM EDT
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Designed for peasants...on a potato. Why you for to no potato leave be?
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:36:08 AM EDT
[#33]
i don't hate AKs, but rock in mags and notch sights mean that i will never choose it over something like an AR.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:37:25 AM EDT
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RS Products BM1. Don't mod the handguards. Alternately, ultimak with a 90* offset rail. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can build a better rifle than the crap Colt puts out for less. I still prefer the stock and handguards of an AK over all of the numerous ARs I have shot. Ok, don't buy a Colt. Buy or build something else. How do you mount IR equipment on a standard AK handgaurd? RS Products BM1. Don't mod the handguards. Alternately, ultimak with a 90* offset rail. Or, you could just have this, that is much more balanced, lightweight, accurate, better controls, etc. etc: 
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:57:11 AM EDT
[#35]
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THe sight radius on an AK is nearly identical to the sight radius on an AR carbine. http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g60/azoutdoorsman/sightradiusARAK.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Terrible sights, short sight radius, horrible trigger, horrible safety, magazine retained by a protrusion rather than depression, charging handle on wrong side, terrible for mounting optics and they smell like communism. ETA but don't tell my M92 PAP I said those hateful things. It might reject my Form 1 THe sight radius on an AK is nearly identical to the sight radius on an AR carbine. http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g60/azoutdoorsman/sightradiusARAK.jpg Except aperture style sights (like on the AR) are much better than crude leaf style sights. Plus, irons suck for anything other than hunting from a blind or range shooting. This isn't the 1980's. Flat top AR with quality optics = winning. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:59:38 AM EDT
[#36]
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Your preferences are retarded. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:I still prefer the stock and handguards of an AK over all of the numerous ARs I have shot. Your preferences are retarded. FIFY |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 7:28:02 AM EDT
[#37]
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Your preferences are wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:I still prefer the stock and handguards of an AK over all of the numerous ARs I have shot. Your preferences are wrong. And this is why I don't listen to you. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 7:41:50 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And this is why I don't listen to you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:I still prefer the stock and handguards of an AK over all of the numerous ARs I have shot. Your preferences are wrong. And this is why I don't listen to you. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 7:43:44 AM EDT
[#39]
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Because he has actual real world experience, and listening to him would leave you in a state of the centipedes dilemma? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted:I still prefer the stock and handguards of an AK over all of the numerous ARs I have shot. Your preferences are wrong. And this is why I don't listen to you. No, because preferences are personal. Add to that, the AK as a style of rifle has killed more people than the AR style. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 7:44:43 AM EDT
[#40]
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Because he has actual real world experience, and listening to him would leave you in a state of the centipedes dilemma? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted:I still prefer the stock and handguards of an AK over all of the numerous ARs I have shot. Your preferences are wrong. And this is why I don't listen to you. Doesn't matter AK's are the best rifle evar. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 7:45:18 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, because preferences are personal. If a guy goes around saying he prefers eating shit to eating steak he is just wrong. Its science. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 7:45:55 AM EDT
[#42]
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Doesn't matter AK's are the best rifle evar. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted:I still prefer the stock and handguards of an AK over all of the numerous ARs I have shot. Your preferences are wrong. And this is why I don't listen to you. Doesn't matter AK's are the best rifle evar. No that belongs to the M1 Garand 
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Posted: 12/13/2014 7:47:19 AM EDT
[#43]
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No, because preferences are personal. Add to that, the AK as a style of rifle has killed more people than the AR style. Well, when the Soviets were handing them out to everyone that had any sort of slight against the west, or favored communism that led to a lot of rifles. However, how many first world countries that have well trained armies use some sort of AR rifle now? |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 7:47:27 AM EDT
[#44]
I also don't hate AK's.
But I've seen them in their natural environment, at all levels of care, and from many nations. They are a junk rifle, designed to be cranked out, carried a lot, shot a little, and thrown away instead of being rebuilt.   Wow, what could have been right?  ETA- and that's what I think is hilarious about the AK, especially it's false representation in pop culture and media. The AK-47/ AKM... It's the cut rate version the Soviets settled on. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 7:49:23 AM EDT
[#45]
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I also don't hate AK's. But I've seen them in their natural environment, at all levels of care, and from many nations. They are a junk rifle, designed to be cranked out, carried a lot, shot a little, and thrown away instead of being rebuilt. http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss180/longtrec/AK46.jpg Wow, what could have been right? That needs to be brought back. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 7:52:00 AM EDT
[#46]
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I also don't hate AK's. But I've seen them in their natural environment, at all levels of care, and from many nations. They are a junk rifle, designed to be cranked out, carried a lot, shot a little, and thrown away instead of being rebuilt. http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss180/longtrec/AK46.jpg Wow, what could have been right?
ETA- and that's what I think is hilarious about the AK, especially it's false representation in pop culture and media. The AK-47/ AKM... It's the cut rate version the Soviets settled on. Kinda looks like an SKS and an FAL fucked. Except it looks like it retains the same rotating bolt design as the AKM. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 7:57:20 AM EDT
[#47]
I don't like the magazines, safety, bolt handle, and sights. The AR is far superior in ergonomics. That said, I love my AKs. I just love my ARs more.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 8:05:49 AM EDT
[#48]
they don't have gas rings.
they don't poop where they eat. they make too much distinctive noise. there's too many of them. their bullets weigh twice as much. they're folded together at build parties / puppy sacrifices |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 8:15:10 AM EDT
[#49]
AK love here. I have five. Had 8 at one time. Only have 4 ARs.
My go to SHTF gun is my M1A. Go figure. I only have one and my wife has one. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 8:19:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kinda looks like an SKS and an FAL fucked. Except it looks like it retains the same rotating bolt design as the AKM. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: snip Kinda looks like an SKS and an FAL fucked. Except it looks like it retains the same rotating bolt design as the AKM.  Hey! Guess what other gun utilizes a really milimilistic system to mount the barrel to the rest of the gun and also is known for accuracy issued!  Ooohhh... that's right, the G-36. Now, yes it's two very different systems... but the end results are somewhat similar, for similar reasons. AK's in their natural environments...  |
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