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Posted: 12/15/2014 4:04:46 AM EDT
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I don't care what the wife says, when she finishes her 20, we're coming back for good.
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Posted: 12/15/2014 5:20:47 AM EDT
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I don't care what the wife says, when she finishes her 20, we're coming back for good. What's she in for? 
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Posted: 12/15/2014 9:56:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you were carrying in your vehicle your firearm was supposed to be "visible" to an approaching LEO if on a traffic stop. People would tuck their cover garment behind their holstered handgun or behind their back so it was visible. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good to see this occurring in Ohio. To think, it was ten years ago that their CCW law came into affect and the BS that has been effectively fought regarding just carrying in a car. Good job Ohio firearms owners! Part of my nostalgic self is actually a bit sad that the fabled "Buckeye Tuck" went away. That shit was embarrassing. What was that? When you were carrying in your vehicle your firearm was supposed to be "visible" to an approaching LEO if on a traffic stop. People would tuck their cover garment behind their holstered handgun or behind their back so it was visible. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 10:07:38 AM EDT
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(B) A resident of this state may submit to the sheriff of the county in which the resident resides or to the sheriff of any county adjacent to the county in which the resident resides any federal form that requires a law enforcement certification by a chief law enforcement officer. (C) The sheriff shall accept and process the certification in the same manner as an application for a concealed handgun license is processed under section 2923.125 of the Revised Code, including the requirement for a background check, except as follows: (1) If a resident of this state submits one or more federal forms, the sheriff shall charge the resident no more than the applicable fee described in division (B)(1)(a) of section 2923.125 of the Revised Code, without regard to how many federal forms are submitted at the same time. (2) If a resident of this state submits one or more federal forms and currently has a concealed handgun license or the sheriff has previously approved a federal form for that resident, the sheriff shall charge the resident no more than the applicable fee described in division (F)(4) of section 2923.125 of the Revised Code, without regard to how many federal forms are submitted at the same time.  My local LEO is happy to sign off. That being said, I may take my next form 4 to the neighboring sheriff that would never sign off on the forms before now. Why? Because I can. 
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Posted: 12/15/2014 10:21:57 AM EDT
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Has K signed it yet? How many days left until a potential no-sign makes it law?
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Posted: 12/15/2014 10:27:28 AM EDT
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Congrats OH
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Posted: 12/15/2014 10:30:21 AM EDT
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Has K signed it yet? How many days left until a potential no-sign makes it law? Hasn't signed it yet, but he has 10 days to sign it from the time it hits his desk. It would be a little ridiculous for him not to sign a bill that passed the senate 24-6. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 10:31:24 AM EDT
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Congrats Buckeyes.
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Posted: 12/15/2014 10:35:04 AM EDT
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My local LEO is happy to sign off. That being said, I may take my next form 4 to the neighboring sheriff that would never sign off on the forms before now. Why? Because I can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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(B) A resident of this state may submit to the sheriff of the county in which the resident resides or to the sheriff of any county adjacent to the county in which the resident resides any federal form that requires a law enforcement certification by a chief law enforcement officer. (C) The sheriff shall accept and process the certification in the same manner as an application for a concealed handgun license is processed under section 2923.125 of the Revised Code, including the requirement for a background check, except as follows: (1) If a resident of this state submits one or more federal forms, the sheriff shall charge the resident no more than the applicable fee described in division (B)(1)(a) of section 2923.125 of the Revised Code, without regard to how many federal forms are submitted at the same time. (2) If a resident of this state submits one or more federal forms and currently has a concealed handgun license or the sheriff has previously approved a federal form for that resident, the sheriff shall charge the resident no more than the applicable fee described in division (F)(4) of section 2923.125 of the Revised Code, without regard to how many federal forms are submitted at the same time. My local LEO is happy to sign off. That being said, I may take my next form 4 to the neighboring sheriff that would never sign off on the forms before now. Why? Because I can. I think it's cool they threw that in there but I don't see how it will fly with the ATF. Your local CLEO is not the Sheriff of the next county over. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 10:59:46 AM EDT
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My local LEO is happy to sign off. That being said, I may take my next form 4 to the neighboring sheriff that would never sign off on the forms before now. Why? Because I can. I went to a neighboring sheriff for my CHL because there was talk of the Dispatch publishing names of people who applied in Franklin County. Can't wait to see what they do now. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 11:04:26 AM EDT
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I think it's cool they threw that in there but I don't see how it will fly with the ATF. Your local CLEO is not the Sheriff of the next county over. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My local LEO is happy to sign off. That being said, I may take my next form 4 to the neighboring sheriff that would never sign off on the forms before now. Why? Because I can. I think it's cool they threw that in there but I don't see how it will fly with the ATF. Your local CLEO is not the Sheriff of the next county over. I wondered about that, too |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 11:09:41 AM EDT
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Hasn't signed it yet, but he has 10 days to sign it from the time it hits his desk. It would be a little ridiculous for him not to sign a bill that passed the senate 24-6. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has K signed it yet? How many days left until a potential no-sign makes it law? Hasn't signed it yet, but he has 10 days to sign it from the time it hits his desk. It would be a little ridiculous for him not to sign a bill that passed the senate 24-6. Oh, absolutely. Just wondering what his time limit was. I'm pretty excited about this bill. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 11:13:32 AM EDT
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I went to a neighboring sheriff for my CHL because there was talk of the Dispatch publishing names of people who applied in Franklin County. Can't wait to see what they do now. Wait - when was there talk of this? Fuck the Dispatch; miserable piece of Communist shit paper. I knew they were trash when they openly endorsed - on the front page - Obama for his first election. Stupid motherfuckers must not realize that posting my address and name as a CHL holder is just as "legal" as would be my posting of the author and editor's addresses. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 11:18:33 AM EDT
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Ohio citizens will be permitted to buy a long gun in any state. Currently Ohio citizens may only buy long guns from five contiguous states. That limitation dates back to the 1970's before the NICS background check system. The bill would recognize that background checks are much improved. (Purchases of handguns are still limited to state of residence by Federal law.)
Can I be in another state and buy a gun from an individual and bring it back to Ohio, or do I need to go through a FFL dealer and register the long gun? |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 11:58:24 AM EDT
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To bad, we can't hunt with rifles...
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:02:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ohio citizens will be permitted to buy a long gun in any state. Currently Ohio citizens may only buy long guns from five contiguous states. That limitation dates back to the 1970's before the NICS background check system. The bill would recognize that background checks are much improved. (Purchases of handguns are still limited to state of residence by Federal law.) Can I be in another state and buy a gun from an individual and bring it back to Ohio, or do I need to go through a FFL dealer and register the long gun?  FTF have to in state, both buyer and seller have to live in the state |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:08:34 PM EDT
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To bad, we can't hunt with rifles... Yes, we can. Select rifles were approved for deer hunting this year: .357 Magnum, .357 Maximum, .38 Special, .375 Super Magnum, .375 Winchester, .38-55, .41 Long Colt, .41 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum, .444 Marlin, .45 ACP, .45 Colt, .45 Long Colt, .45 Winchester Magnum, .45 Smith & Wesson, .454 Cassull, .460 Smith & Wesson, .45-70, .45-90, .45-110, .475 Linebaugh, .50-70, .50-90, .50-100, .50-110, and .500 Smith & Wesson. Shotguns and stright-walled cartridge rifles can be loaded with no more than three shells in the chamber and magazine combined. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:17:12 PM EDT
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Yes, we can. Select rifles were approved for deer hunting this year: .357 Magnum, .357 Maximum, .38 Special, .375 Super Magnum, .375 Winchester, .38-55, .41 Long Colt, .41 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum, .444 Marlin, .45 ACP, .45 Colt, .45 Long Colt, .45 Winchester Magnum, .45 Smith & Wesson, .454 Cassull, .460 Smith & Wesson, .45-70, .45-90, .45-110, .475 Linebaugh, .50-70, .50-90, .50-100, .50-110, and .500 Smith & Wesson. Shotguns and stright-walled cartridge rifles can be loaded with no more than three shells in the chamber and magazine combined. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To bad, we can't hunt with rifles... Yes, we can. Select rifles were approved for deer hunting this year: .357 Magnum, .357 Maximum, .38 Special, .375 Super Magnum, .375 Winchester, .38-55, .41 Long Colt, .41 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum, .444 Marlin, .45 ACP, .45 Colt, .45 Long Colt, .45 Winchester Magnum, .45 Smith & Wesson, .454 Cassull, .460 Smith & Wesson, .45-70, .45-90, .45-110, .475 Linebaugh, .50-70, .50-90, .50-100, .50-110, and .500 Smith & Wesson. Shotguns and stright-walled cartridge rifles can be loaded with no more than three shells in the chamber and magazine combined. So we're talking about lever guns...? |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:17:47 PM EDT
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What was stripped out of this at the last minute were the school zone fixes and the 18 year old active duty being able to carry legally without a CHL. It is my understanding these things will be addressed but they needed more time for the details to make sure it was right. Knowing you don't always get the full loaf at one time I think what has passed is very good and a huge leap forward for moving Ohio up on the list that the Brady Bunch puts out every year for places with the worst gun laws. Haha. We might be in the top 10 now. or at least top 20. We got:(or will when the Gov signs) 1 - OH recognizes all other states licenses and permits 2 - Sheriff does NICS - this should allow us to buy guns without having to get NICS every time. 3 - Suppressor Hunting 4 - 31 round mag = Machine Gun is gone. No mag prohibitions in OH anymore 5 - Other instructors from National Gun Advocacy groups instrcutors can give OH CHL classes. Prior this was only OPOTA and NRA Certified. This means instructors certified by USCCA will be able to instruct CHL class 6 - 45 day residency requirement is gone 7 - CHL training reduced from 12 to 8 hours 8 - Provisions to allow for a portion of training to be ON LINE 9 - And the coup d'é·tat.... Sheriffs SHALL SIGN all NFA forms presented to them that require LEO certification if the person is legally allowed to possess the items under state and federal law. There are other minor things. But these are the biggies IMO quoted from the ohio hometown forum Awesome!! |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:22:57 PM EDT
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So we're talking about lever guns...? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To bad, we can't hunt with rifles... Yes, we can. Select rifles were approved for deer hunting this year: .357 Magnum, .357 Maximum, .38 Special, .375 Super Magnum, .375 Winchester, .38-55, .41 Long Colt, .41 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum, .444 Marlin, .45 ACP, .45 Colt, .45 Long Colt, .45 Winchester Magnum, .45 Smith & Wesson, .454 Cassull, .460 Smith & Wesson, .45-70, .45-90, .45-110, .475 Linebaugh, .50-70, .50-90, .50-100, .50-110, and .500 Smith & Wesson. Shotguns and stright-walled cartridge rifles can be loaded with no more than three shells in the chamber and magazine combined. So we're talking about lever guns...? Mainly, yes. However, there are ARs chambered in the above calibers. I like to think this is just a "trial run" to see if we can run real rifle calibers like .223. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:25:46 PM EDT
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To bad, we can't hunt with rifles... We've been able to hunt with rifles for years, just not deer. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:27:49 PM EDT
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Mainly, yes. However, there are ARs chambered in the above calibers. I like to think this is just a "trial run" to see if we can run real rifle calibers like .223. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To bad, we can't hunt with rifles... Yes, we can. Select rifles were approved for deer hunting this year: .357 Magnum, .357 Maximum, .38 Special, .375 Super Magnum, .375 Winchester, .38-55, .41 Long Colt, .41 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum, .444 Marlin, .45 ACP, .45 Colt, .45 Long Colt, .45 Winchester Magnum, .45 Smith & Wesson, .454 Cassull, .460 Smith & Wesson, .45-70, .45-90, .45-110, .475 Linebaugh, .50-70, .50-90, .50-100, .50-110, and .500 Smith & Wesson. Shotguns and stright-walled cartridge rifles can be loaded with no more than three shells in the chamber and magazine combined. So we're talking about lever guns...? Mainly, yes. However, there are ARs chambered in the above calibers. I like to think this is just a "trial run" to see if we can run real rifle calibers like .223. God, I wish.... 
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:31:44 PM EDT
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Ohio citizens will be permitted to buy a long gun in any state. Currently Ohio citizens may only buy long guns from five contiguous states. That limitation dates back to the 1970's before the NICS background check system. The bill would recognize that background checks are much improved. (Purchases of handguns are still limited to state of residence by Federal law.) Can I be in another state and buy a gun from an individual and bring it back to Ohio, or do I need to go through a FFL dealer and register the long gun? If the gun is crossing state lines, it must go through an FFL, regardless of state law (that is federal law). There is no gun registration in Ohio, and background checks are not required in a sale from one Ohio resident to another. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:33:16 PM EDT
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We've been able to hunt with rifles for years, just not deer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To bad, we can't hunt with rifles... We've been able to hunt with rifles for years, just not deer. Also this is true, .223 has been game for years on coyotes and others. Again, maybe I'm being optimistic, but I think if we're responsible with straight-walled rifle carts, we may soon get 5.56 and 7.62 clearance for deer. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:34:47 PM EDT
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I'm just happy they got rid of the stupid magazine bullshit.
No more problems ordering mags online.... |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:40:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FTF have to in state, both buyer and seller have to live in the state Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ohio citizens will be permitted to buy a long gun in any state. Currently Ohio citizens may only buy long guns from five contiguous states. That limitation dates back to the 1970's before the NICS background check system. The bill would recognize that background checks are much improved. (Purchases of handguns are still limited to state of residence by Federal law.) Can I be in another state and buy a gun from an individual and bring it back to Ohio, or do I need to go through a FFL dealer and register the long gun? FTF have to in state, both buyer and seller have to live in the state I do not understand what you are saying. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:44:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the gun is crossing state lines, it must go through an FFL, regardless of state law (that is federal law). There is no gun registration in Ohio, and background checks are not required in a sale from one Ohio resident to another. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ohio citizens will be permitted to buy a long gun in any state. Currently Ohio citizens may only buy long guns from five contiguous states. That limitation dates back to the 1970's before the NICS background check system. The bill would recognize that background checks are much improved. (Purchases of handguns are still limited to state of residence by Federal law.) Can I be in another state and buy a gun from an individual and bring it back to Ohio, or do I need to go through a FFL dealer and register the long gun? If the gun is crossing state lines, it must go through an FFL, regardless of state law (that is federal law). There is no gun registration in Ohio, and background checks are not required in a sale from one Ohio resident to another. I thought that an individual (not FFL) could sell to any other individual without regard to where either lived. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:55:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought that an individual (not FFL) could sell to any other individual without regard to where either lived. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ohio citizens will be permitted to buy a long gun in any state. Currently Ohio citizens may only buy long guns from five contiguous states. That limitation dates back to the 1970's before the NICS background check system. The bill would recognize that background checks are much improved. (Purchases of handguns are still limited to state of residence by Federal law.) Can I be in another state and buy a gun from an individual and bring it back to Ohio, or do I need to go through a FFL dealer and register the long gun? If the gun is crossing state lines, it must go through an FFL, regardless of state law (that is federal law). There is no gun registration in Ohio, and background checks are not required in a sale from one Ohio resident to another. I thought that an individual (not FFL) could sell to any other individual without regard to where either lived. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:58:06 PM EDT
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I thought that an individual (not FFL) could sell to any other individual without regard to where either lived. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ohio citizens will be permitted to buy a long gun in any state. Currently Ohio citizens may only buy long guns from five contiguous states. That limitation dates back to the 1970's before the NICS background check system. The bill would recognize that background checks are much improved. (Purchases of handguns are still limited to state of residence by Federal law.) Can I be in another state and buy a gun from an individual and bring it back to Ohio, or do I need to go through a FFL dealer and register the long gun? If the gun is crossing state lines, it must go through an FFL, regardless of state law (that is federal law). There is no gun registration in Ohio, and background checks are not required in a sale from one Ohio resident to another. I thought that an individual (not FFL) could sell to any other individual without regard to where either lived. Hell no. GCA 1968. If the exchange crosses state lines (e.g.: I want to sell to someone who lives in West Virginia), you must go through an FFL. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 1:08:18 PM EDT
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Still no loaded rifle magazines in your vehicle ?????
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Posted: 12/15/2014 1:10:24 PM EDT
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Still no loaded rifle magazines in your vehicle ????? That was fixed earlier this year. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 1:24:01 PM EDT
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That was fixed earlier this year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Still no loaded rifle magazines in your vehicle ????? That was fixed earlier this year. IIRC, that was only if you have a CHL may you have loaded rifle mags? |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 1:36:56 PM EDT
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IIRC, that was only if you have a CHL may you have loaded rifle mags? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Still no loaded rifle magazines in your vehicle ????? That was fixed earlier this year. IIRC, that was only if you have a CHL may you have loaded rifle mags? Nope. As long as they are in a separate compartment from the rifle, such as mag pockets in a rifle case. With a CHL, anywhere but in the rifle. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 1:39:22 PM EDT
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Nope. As long as they are in a separate compartment from the rifle, such as mag pockets in a rifle case. With a CHL, anywhere but in the rifle. Shit. Sorry for perpetuating misinformation, then. 
If we just dropped these ridiculous laws this shit would be a lot easier to keep track of. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 1:43:05 PM EDT
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Shit. Sorry for perpetuating misinformation, then. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nope. As long as they are in a separate compartment from the rifle, such as mag pockets in a rifle case. With a CHL, anywhere but in the rifle. Shit. Sorry for perpetuating misinformation, then. Took me a second to find it... http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.16 " (a) "Unloaded" means , with respect to a firearm other than a firearm described in division (K)(6) of this section, that no ammunition is in the firearm in question, no magazine or speed loader containing ammunition is inserted into the firearm in question , and one of the following applies: (i) There is no ammunition in a magazine or speed loader that is in the vehicle in question and that may be used with the firearm in question. (ii) Any magazine or speed loader that contains ammunition and that may be used with the firearm in question is stored in a compartment within the vehicle in question that cannot be accessed without leaving the vehicle or is stored in a container that provides complete and separate enclosure. (b) For the purposes of division (K)(5)(a)(ii) of this section, a "container that provides complete and separate enclosure" includes, but is not limited to, any of the following: (i) A package, box, or case with multiple compartments, as long as the loaded magazine or speed loader and the firearm in question either are in separate compartments within the package, box, or case, or, if they are in the same compartment, the magazine or speed loader is contained within a separate enclosure in that compartment that does not contain the firearm and that closes using a snap, button, buckle, zipper, hook and loop closing mechanism, or other fastener that must be opened to access the contents or the firearm is contained within a separate enclosure of that nature in that compartment that does not contain the magazine or speed loader; (ii) A pocket or other enclosure on the person of the person in question that closes using a snap, button, buckle, zipper, hook and loop closing mechanism, or other fastener that must be opened to access the contents. " |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 3:50:10 PM EDT
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To bad, we can't hunt with rifles... Yes, we can. Select rifles were approved for deer hunting this year: .357 Magnum, .357 Maximum, .38 Special, .375 Super Magnum, .375 Winchester, .38-55, .41 Long Colt, .41 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum, .444 Marlin, .45 ACP, .45 Colt, .45 Long Colt, .45 Winchester Magnum, .45 Smith & Wesson, .454 Cassull, .460 Smith & Wesson, .45-70, .45-90, .45-110, .475 Linebaugh, .50-70, .50-90, .50-100, .50-110, and .500 Smith & Wesson. Shotguns and stright-walled cartridge rifles can be loaded with no more than three shells in the chamber and magazine combined. So we're talking about lever guns...? I have a suppressed Ruger 77/44. Next year I could hunt deer with it. Like this |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 3:58:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also this is true, .223 has been game for years on coyotes and others. Again, maybe I'm being optimistic, but I think if we're responsible with straight-walled rifle carts, we may soon get 5.56 and 7.62 clearance for deer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: To bad, we can't hunt with rifles... We've been able to hunt with rifles for years, just not deer. Also this is true, .223 has been game for years on coyotes and others. Again, maybe I'm being optimistic, but I think if we're responsible with straight-walled rifle carts, we may soon get 5.56 and 7.62 clearance for deer. Correct, I've been hunting ground hogs with my AR for years. As for your latter comments, I think it should be county by county. I've been told the reason we don't have high power rifle permission on deer is because Ohio is very flat (in most parts) and has high population density. However, some counties, like where I hunt in SE Ohio, are just like norther WV as far as landscape is concerned (rolling hills, damn near mountains, etc.). So, if they do county by county, I think it has a better chance of passing, versus statewide. I'd rather have statewide, but then again I don't think I want some of the people around me shooting ARs or .30-06 powered rifles during deer season. It's scary enough what some people do with shotguns. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 4:16:48 PM EDT
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Proud day for us Ohioans
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Posted: 12/15/2014 7:36:52 PM EDT
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Wait - when was there talk of this? Fuck the Dispatch; miserable piece of Communist shit paper. I knew they were trash when they openly endorsed - on the front page - Obama for his first election. Stupid motherfuckers must not realize that posting my address and name as a CHL holder is just as "legal" as would be my posting of the author and editor's addresses. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I went to a neighboring sheriff for my CHL because there was talk of the Dispatch publishing names of people who applied in Franklin County. Can't wait to see what they do now. Wait - when was there talk of this? Fuck the Dispatch; miserable piece of Communist shit paper. I knew they were trash when they openly endorsed - on the front page - Obama for his first election. Stupid motherfuckers must not realize that posting my address and name as a CHL holder is just as "legal" as would be my posting of the author and editor's addresses. No longer an option, but here's a story about it. http://www.dispatch.com/content/blogs/your-right-to-know/2011/09/police-videos.html |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 8:43:19 PM EDT
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Ohio citizens will be permitted to buy a long gun in any state. Currently Ohio citizens may only buy long guns from five contiguous states. That limitation dates back to the 1970's before the NICS background check system. The bill would recognize that background checks are much improved. (Purchases of handguns are still limited to state of residence by Federal law.) See my post earlier. You do not need to receive explicit permission to do something that has not been prohibited. It is entirely legal for an Ohio resident to buy a rifle or shotgun from an FFL in any state, so long as that state does not prohibit such a sale. The reverse is also true - a resident of any other state can buy a rifle or shotgun from a dealer here in Ohio, and it has been perfectly legal for quite some time. People just get tripped up on the wording that existed to relieve a prohibition that has long since gone away. They have just been dead words that do nothing (except confuse people who don't grasp some of the most basic principles of our legal system). |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 9:00:27 PM EDT
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To bad, we can't hunt with rifles... Yes, we can. Select rifles were approved for deer hunting this year: .357 Magnum, .357 Maximum, .38 Special, .375 Super Magnum, .375 Winchester, .38-55, .41 Long Colt, .41 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum, .444 Marlin, .45 ACP, .45 Colt, .45 Long Colt, .45 Winchester Magnum, .45 Smith & Wesson, .454 Cassull, .460 Smith & Wesson, .45-70, .45-90, .45-110, .475 Linebaugh, .50-70, .50-90, .50-100, .50-110, and .500 Smith & Wesson. Shotguns and stright-walled cartridge rifles can be loaded with no more than three shells in the chamber and magazine combined. So we're talking about lever guns...? I have a suppressed Ruger 77/44. Next year I could hunt deer with it. Like this That's awesome. I looked way too late when searching for ARs chambered in rounds I could hunt with this year. Nice role hopefully we'll see actual rifle cartridges allowed here at some point. I didn't even know any of this was on the legislative table here. Is it too late to set up a trust for the initial suppressor purchase or has the ATF put the kibosh on that? |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 9:04:40 PM EDT
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Is it too late to set up a trust for the initial suppressor purchase or has the ATF put the kibosh on that? Do you anticipate multiple users of the item? If so, I would go LLC. One-time filing fee with minimal paperwork requirements in Ohio. Otherwise, this bill mandates shall-sign by CLEOs, so just go individual. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 9:40:56 PM EDT
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See my post earlier. You do not need to receive explicit permission to do something that has not been prohibited. It is entirely legal for an Ohio resident to buy a rifle or shotgun from an FFL in any state, so long as that state does not prohibit such a sale. The reverse is also true - a resident of any other state can buy a rifle or shotgun from a dealer here in Ohio, and it has been perfectly legal for quite some time. People just get tripped up on the wording that existed to relieve a prohibition that has long since gone away. They have just been dead words that do nothing (except confuse people who don't grasp some of the most basic principles of our legal system). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ohio citizens will be permitted to buy a long gun in any state. Currently Ohio citizens may only buy long guns from five contiguous states. That limitation dates back to the 1970's before the NICS background check system. The bill would recognize that background checks are much improved. (Purchases of handguns are still limited to state of residence by Federal law.) See my post earlier. You do not need to receive explicit permission to do something that has not been prohibited. It is entirely legal for an Ohio resident to buy a rifle or shotgun from an FFL in any state, so long as that state does not prohibit such a sale. The reverse is also true - a resident of any other state can buy a rifle or shotgun from a dealer here in Ohio, and it has been perfectly legal for quite some time. People just get tripped up on the wording that existed to relieve a prohibition that has long since gone away. They have just been dead words that do nothing (except confuse people who don't grasp some of the most basic principles of our legal system). I've bought rifles in WI and TX from an FFL within the past few years without an issue. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 9:51:46 PM EDT
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Well, good deal, Ohio.
Congratulations are in order. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 11:25:24 PM EDT
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I think... that they included Ohio Sheriffs because they have more Authority than Sheriffs in many states. Once Ohio Guy see the Sheriff 's authority in many states you will go crazy.
Mine is pro-gun and the new law makes no difference. Not the case in many counties. |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 7:45:24 PM EDT
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And now SIGNED INTO LAW!
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Posted: 12/19/2014 7:48:03 PM EDT
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And now SIGNED INTO LAW!
I officially move back to Ohio tomorrow! |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 7:51:56 PM EDT
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And now SIGNED INTO LAW!
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Posted: 12/19/2014 8:00:40 PM EDT
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Nice got any links to this.
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Posted: 12/19/2014 8:01:57 PM EDT
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Nice got any links to this. http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2014/12/ohio-comprehensive-pro-gun-reform-legislation-signed-into-law-today.aspx?s=&st=10499&ps= |
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