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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-captain-of-san-diegobased-warship-relieved-of-duty-20141123-story.html
"The captain of one of the Navy's premier warships has been relieved of command after an investigation found that he routinely used foul and abusive language toward crew members and engaged in inappropriate touching and questioning of women." "Capt. Wayne Brown was relieved as commander of the San Diego-based amphibious assault ship Boxer after an investigation concluded that he had "lost the respect, trust and confidence of his subordinates" because of his temper and his behavior toward female crew members, according to the investigative report. His behavior included touching and asking crew members whether they were using birth control with their husbands or boyfriends..." |
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The report quotes one sailor - whose name and rank are redacted - saying that, "Capt. Brown's leadership style is caustic and intimidating and is something he would consider 'old school' or from the '80s." The Boxer is designed to take combat Marines and heavy equipment to war zones. View Quote Brown was concerned about female sailors and junior officers using birth control because the ship had lost several crew members who became pregnant and could not deploy, the report says. But the women were unnerved by the questioning and thought it was inappropriate, according to the report. View Quote Am I the only one who sees the question as being highly appropriate? Ensign Sally Jone is in charge of the radio crew. Ensign Sally works with the radio crew for 6 months. The ship gets dispatched out on a mission, but Ensign Sally is knocked up and now we have to find someone else to be in charge of the radio crew and the radio crew has to adjust to a new boss, while on a mission. Seems like a problem to me. |
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-captain-of-san-diegobased-warship-relieved-of-duty-20141123-story.html "The captain of one of the Navy's premier warships has been relieved of command after an investigation found that he routinely used foul and abusive language toward crew members and engaged in inappropriate touching and questioning of women." "Capt. Wayne Brown was relieved as commander of the San Diego-based amphibious assault ship Boxer after an investigation concluded that he had "lost the respect, trust and confidence of his subordinates" because of his temper and his behavior toward female crew members, according to the investigative report. His behavior included touching and asking crew members whether they were using birth control with their husbands or boyfriends..." View Quote I wouldn't call an amphibious assault ship a premier ship of the navy. Anyway Meh...If he did that stuff meh. If he didn't and he getting shafted.. Meh typical. |
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Hey, the navy wanted to be one of the "pioneers" of this shit ... I guess they succeeded.
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Am I the only one who sees the question as being highly appropriate? Ensign Sally Jone is in charge of the radio crew. Ensign Sally works with the radio crew for 6 months. The ship gets dispatched out on a mission, but Ensign Sally is knocked up and now we have to find someone else to be in charge of the radio crew and the radio crew has to adjust to a new boss, while on a mission. Seems like a problem to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
The report quotes one sailor - whose name and rank are redacted - saying that, "Capt. Brown's leadership style is caustic and intimidating and is something he would consider 'old school' or from the '80s."
The Boxer is designed to take combat Marines and heavy equipment to war zones. Brown was concerned about female sailors and junior officers using birth control because the ship had lost several crew members who became pregnant and could not deploy, the report says. But the women were unnerved by the questioning and thought it was inappropriate, according to the report. Am I the only one who sees the question as being highly appropriate? Ensign Sally Jone is in charge of the radio crew. Ensign Sally works with the radio crew for 6 months. The ship gets dispatched out on a mission, but Ensign Sally is knocked up and now we have to find someone else to be in charge of the radio crew and the radio crew has to adjust to a new boss, while on a mission. Seems like a problem to me. Whats he going to do, force them to take it? |
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The article is pretty short on facts. Im wondering what unwanted touching is? It potentially translates into sexual harassment or assault. Those are always interesting investigations.
Getting handsy with the help is just retarded. |
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Whats he going to do, force them to take it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The report quotes one sailor - whose name and rank are redacted - saying that, "Capt. Brown's leadership style is caustic and intimidating and is something he would consider 'old school' or from the '80s."
The Boxer is designed to take combat Marines and heavy equipment to war zones. Brown was concerned about female sailors and junior officers using birth control because the ship had lost several crew members who became pregnant and could not deploy, the report says. But the women were unnerved by the questioning and thought it was inappropriate, according to the report. Am I the only one who sees the question as being highly appropriate? Ensign Sally Jone is in charge of the radio crew. Ensign Sally works with the radio crew for 6 months. The ship gets dispatched out on a mission, but Ensign Sally is knocked up and now we have to find someone else to be in charge of the radio crew and the radio crew has to adjust to a new boss, while on a mission. Seems like a problem to me. Whats he going to do, force them to take it? If they can force me to take an Anthrax vaccine, they should be able to force women to take birth control for mission concerns. |
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I wouldn't call an amphibious assault ship a premier ship of the navy. Anyway Meh...If he did that stuff meh. If he didn't and he getting shafted.. Meh typical. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-captain-of-san-diegobased-warship-relieved-of-duty-20141123-story.html "The captain of one of the Navy's premier warships has been relieved of command after an investigation found that he routinely used foul and abusive language toward crew members and engaged in inappropriate touching and questioning of women." "Capt. Wayne Brown was relieved as commander of the San Diego-based amphibious assault ship Boxer after an investigation concluded that he had "lost the respect, trust and confidence of his subordinates" because of his temper and his behavior toward female crew members, according to the investigative report. His behavior included touching and asking crew members whether they were using birth control with their husbands or boyfriends..." I wouldn't call an amphibious assault ship a premier ship of the navy. Anyway Meh...If he did that stuff meh. If he didn't and he getting shafted.. Meh typical. Wtf dude. Stop with all the meh shit randomly inserted. It makes you look severely illiterate and no one can read what you're trying to say. |
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Clicked this thread thinking it would be the Cowpens...again.
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Women in Navy ship's crew - still a bad idea. Women in Combat Arms - still a bad idea. Sorry but it's true. Call me a sexist if it makes you feel better. |
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I wouldn't call an amphibious assault ship a premier ship of the navy. Anyway Meh...If he did that stuff meh. If he didn't and he getting shafted.. Meh typical. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-captain-of-san-diegobased-warship-relieved-of-duty-20141123-story.html "The captain of one of the Navy's premier warships has been relieved of command after an investigation found that he routinely used foul and abusive language toward crew members and engaged in inappropriate touching and questioning of women." "Capt. Wayne Brown was relieved as commander of the San Diego-based amphibious assault ship Boxer after an investigation concluded that he had "lost the respect, trust and confidence of his subordinates" because of his temper and his behavior toward female crew members, according to the investigative report. His behavior included touching and asking crew members whether they were using birth control with their husbands or boyfriends..." I wouldn't call an amphibious assault ship a premier ship of the navy. Anyway Meh...If he did that stuff meh. If he didn't and he getting shafted.. Meh typical. LHDs are the second largest ships in the Navy...not premier enough for you? |
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Sure sounds like a impolite man....... wouldn’t want him defending this country. The folks who tattled on him will be much better at striking fear in our enemies.
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Am I the only one who sees the question as being highly appropriate? Ensign Sally Jone is in charge of the radio crew. Ensign Sally works with the radio crew for 6 months. The ship gets dispatched out on a mission, but Ensign Sally is knocked up and now we have to find someone else to be in charge of the radio crew and the radio crew has to adjust to a new boss, while on a mission. Seems like a problem to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
The report quotes one sailor - whose name and rank are redacted - saying that, "Capt. Brown's leadership style is caustic and intimidating and is something he would consider 'old school' or from the '80s."
The Boxer is designed to take combat Marines and heavy equipment to war zones. Brown was concerned about female sailors and junior officers using birth control because the ship had lost several crew members who became pregnant and could not deploy, the report says. But the women were unnerved by the questioning and thought it was inappropriate, according to the report. Am I the only one who sees the question as being highly appropriate? Ensign Sally Jone is in charge of the radio crew. Ensign Sally works with the radio crew for 6 months. The ship gets dispatched out on a mission, but Ensign Sally is knocked up and now we have to find someone else to be in charge of the radio crew and the radio crew has to adjust to a new boss, while on a mission. Seems like a problem to me. I agree, it's called planning for a family |
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If they can force me to take an Anthrax vaccine, they should be able to force women to take birth control for mission concerns. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The report quotes one sailor - whose name and rank are redacted - saying that, "Capt. Brown's leadership style is caustic and intimidating and is something he would consider 'old school' or from the '80s."
The Boxer is designed to take combat Marines and heavy equipment to war zones. Brown was concerned about female sailors and junior officers using birth control because the ship had lost several crew members who became pregnant and could not deploy, the report says. But the women were unnerved by the questioning and thought it was inappropriate, according to the report. Am I the only one who sees the question as being highly appropriate? Ensign Sally Jone is in charge of the radio crew. Ensign Sally works with the radio crew for 6 months. The ship gets dispatched out on a mission, but Ensign Sally is knocked up and now we have to find someone else to be in charge of the radio crew and the radio crew has to adjust to a new boss, while on a mission. Seems like a problem to me. Whats he going to do, force them to take it? If they can force me to take an Anthrax vaccine, they should be able to force women to take birth control for mission concerns. Dude you fell into a gold mine here. Feminists: birth control and abortion are HEALTH CARE. Pregnancy, birth control, and abortion are about WOMEN'S HEALTH. Military: Roger that. We can't have you getting sick while on deployment. Take this.....this......and also, this. |
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Pregnancy to avoid deployment? Say it isn't so.... never happens.
Deployments should count as points to cutting scores. |
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Am I the only one who sees the question as being highly appropriate? Ensign Sally Jone is in charge of the radio crew. Ensign Sally works with the radio crew for 6 months. The ship gets dispatched out on a mission, but Ensign Sally is knocked up and now we have to find someone else to be in charge of the radio crew and the radio crew has to adjust to a new boss, while on a mission. Seems like a problem to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
The report quotes one sailor - whose name and rank are redacted - saying that, "Capt. Brown's leadership style is caustic and intimidating and is something he would consider 'old school' or from the '80s."
The Boxer is designed to take combat Marines and heavy equipment to war zones. Brown was concerned about female sailors and junior officers using birth control because the ship had lost several crew members who became pregnant and could not deploy, the report says. But the women were unnerved by the questioning and thought it was inappropriate, according to the report. Am I the only one who sees the question as being highly appropriate? Ensign Sally Jone is in charge of the radio crew. Ensign Sally works with the radio crew for 6 months. The ship gets dispatched out on a mission, but Ensign Sally is knocked up and now we have to find someone else to be in charge of the radio crew and the radio crew has to adjust to a new boss, while on a mission. Seems like a problem to me. I have to agree with you. Birth control and the potential for pregnancy directly impacts on readiness and his ability to deploy. |
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Interesting ship. I have not seen those before. It looks like an aircraft carrier for helicopters and similar VTOL type aircraft.
"The USS Boxer (LHD-4) is a Wasp-class amphibious assault ship of the United States Navy. It is the sixth U.S. Navy ship to bear the name, and was named for the original HMS Boxer, which had been captured from the British during the War of 1812." Source Not named after a lib. |
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Looks like the Captain forgot to update to the newest version of PowerPoint.
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Interesting ship. I have not seen those before. It looks like an aircraft carrier for helicopters and similar VTOL type aircraft. "The USS Boxer (LHD-4) is a Wasp-class amphibious assault ship of the United States Navy. It is the sixth U.S. Navy ship to bear the name, and was named for the original HMS Boxer, which had been captured from the British during the War of 1812." Source Not named after a lib. View Quote Helicopters, and the stern will free flood for loading and releasing landing craft it carries. |
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Wtf dude. Stop with all the meh shit randomly inserted. It makes you look severely illiterate and no one can read what you're trying to say. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-captain-of-san-diegobased-warship-relieved-of-duty-20141123-story.html "The captain of one of the Navy's premier warships has been relieved of command after an investigation found that he routinely used foul and abusive language toward crew members and engaged in inappropriate touching and questioning of women." "Capt. Wayne Brown was relieved as commander of the San Diego-based amphibious assault ship Boxer after an investigation concluded that he had "lost the respect, trust and confidence of his subordinates" because of his temper and his behavior toward female crew members, according to the investigative report. His behavior included touching and asking crew members whether they were using birth control with their husbands or boyfriends..." I wouldn't call an amphibious assault ship a premier ship of the navy. Anyway Meh...If he did that stuff meh. If he didn't and he getting shafted.. Meh typical. Wtf dude. Stop with all the meh shit randomly inserted. It makes you look severely illiterate and no one can read what you're trying to say. I'd say when someone uses meh It just shows their age and them thinking they are smarter and more in touch than others. Just a big KID in other words. |
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He had a tirade for approximately 30 minutes during which time he yelled and pounded his fist on the desk. View Quote And? Inappropriate touching (to be defined) is another thing, but yelling and foul language? Really? |
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WOW, soldiers can't handle abusive language???... Dayum, they seriously need to grow some thick skin. This is one of the reasons why I have no confidence in the current standard of our military. If words hurt this much amongst the unit. IMO they would not survive one on one/hand to hand combat.
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Quoted: Dude you fell into a gold mine here. Feminists: birth control and abortion are HEALTH CARE. Pregnancy, birth control, and abortion are about WOMEN'S HEALTH. Military: Roger that. We can't have you getting sick while on deployment. Take this.....this......and also, this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If they can force me to take an Anthrax vaccine, they should be able to force women to take birth control for mission concerns. Dude you fell into a gold mine here. Feminists: birth control and abortion are HEALTH CARE. Pregnancy, birth control, and abortion are about WOMEN'S HEALTH. Military: Roger that. We can't have you getting sick while on deployment. Take this.....this......and also, this. And here I thought women's health was irrelevant when it comes to abortion. |
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I wonder if these are trumped up charges to get rid of a fine military officer.
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Am I the only one who sees the question as being highly appropriate? Ensign Sally Jone is in charge of the radio crew. Ensign Sally works with the radio crew for 6 months. The ship gets dispatched out on a mission, but Ensign Sally is knocked up and now we have to find someone else to be in charge of the radio crew and the radio crew has to adjust to a new boss, while on a mission. Seems like a problem to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
The report quotes one sailor - whose name and rank are redacted - saying that, "Capt. Brown's leadership style is caustic and intimidating and is something he would consider 'old school' or from the '80s."
The Boxer is designed to take combat Marines and heavy equipment to war zones. Brown was concerned about female sailors and junior officers using birth control because the ship had lost several crew members who became pregnant and could not deploy, the report says. But the women were unnerved by the questioning and thought it was inappropriate, according to the report. Am I the only one who sees the question as being highly appropriate? Ensign Sally Jone is in charge of the radio crew. Ensign Sally works with the radio crew for 6 months. The ship gets dispatched out on a mission, but Ensign Sally is knocked up and now we have to find someone else to be in charge of the radio crew and the radio crew has to adjust to a new boss, while on a mission. Seems like a problem to me. Thank God there is no chance of Sally Jones being killed or dying on deployment so they don't need to adjust to a new boss. The correct answer is you train for the possibility challenges you may face. That would include a planned or unplanned pregnancy of female crew if any. |
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As a Navy vet, I agree. If they want women on ships, have a ship or two totally crewed with women. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Women in Navy ship's crew - still a bad idea. Women in Combat Arms - still a bad idea. Sorry but it's true. Call me a sexist if it makes you feel better. As a Navy vet, I agree. If they want women on ships, have a ship or two totally crewed with women. It would get lost. |
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I think I went to Department Head school with the CAPT. Seems like a solid guy, went from E-1 to O-6. Can't have leaders actually leading though. I actually got in a little bit of a tussle a few years back as an O-4 for using "bad" language. Fuckers should have thanked me for saving their lives from their own reckless stupidity...
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As a Navy vet, I agree. If they want women on ships, have a ship or two totally crewed with women. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Women in Navy ship's crew - still a bad idea. Women in Combat Arms - still a bad idea. Sorry but it's true. Call me a sexist if it makes you feel better. As a Navy vet, I agree. If they want women on ships, have a ship or two totally crewed with women. that ship would probably be in port at least 50% of the time |
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Women in Navy ship's crew - still a bad idea. Women in Combat Arms - still a bad idea. Sorry but it's true. Call me a sexist if it makes you feel better. As a Navy vet, I agree. If they want women on ships, have a ship or two totally crewed with women. It would get lost. Would stay lost and keep asking for directions 'cause they couldn't figure out the GPS thingy. Russian ships would offer to give them written directions and a map if they would just swing by they office. Boom. Whole crew is now pregnant... |
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And? Inappropriate touching (to be defined) is another thing, but yelling and foul language? Really? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
He had a tirade for approximately 30 minutes during which time he yelled and pounded his fist on the desk. And? Inappropriate touching (to be defined) is another thing, but yelling and foul language? Really? Sailors using profanity? Tell me I ain't so. |
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If they can force me to take an Anthrax vaccine, they should be able to force women to take birth control for mission concerns. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The report quotes one sailor - whose name and rank are redacted - saying that, "Capt. Brown's leadership style is caustic and intimidating and is something he would consider 'old school' or from the '80s."
The Boxer is designed to take combat Marines and heavy equipment to war zones. Brown was concerned about female sailors and junior officers using birth control because the ship had lost several crew members who became pregnant and could not deploy, the report says. But the women were unnerved by the questioning and thought it was inappropriate, according to the report. Am I the only one who sees the question as being highly appropriate? Ensign Sally Jone is in charge of the radio crew. Ensign Sally works with the radio crew for 6 months. The ship gets dispatched out on a mission, but Ensign Sally is knocked up and now we have to find someone else to be in charge of the radio crew and the radio crew has to adjust to a new boss, while on a mission. Seems like a problem to me. Whats he going to do, force them to take it? If they can force me to take an Anthrax vaccine, they should be able to force women to take birth control for mission concerns. Check your privilege and take your common sense else where. |
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Am I the only one who sees the question as being highly appropriate? Ensign Sally Jone is in charge of the radio crew. Ensign Sally works with the radio crew for 6 months. The ship gets dispatched out on a mission, but Ensign Sally is knocked up and now we have to find someone else to be in charge of the radio crew and the radio crew has to adjust to a new boss, while on a mission. Seems like a problem to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
The report quotes one sailor - whose name and rank are redacted - saying that, "Capt. Brown's leadership style is caustic and intimidating and is something he would consider 'old school' or from the '80s."
The Boxer is designed to take combat Marines and heavy equipment to war zones. Brown was concerned about female sailors and junior officers using birth control because the ship had lost several crew members who became pregnant and could not deploy, the report says. But the women were unnerved by the questioning and thought it was inappropriate, according to the report. Am I the only one who sees the question as being highly appropriate? Ensign Sally Jone is in charge of the radio crew. Ensign Sally works with the radio crew for 6 months. The ship gets dispatched out on a mission, but Ensign Sally is knocked up and now we have to find someone else to be in charge of the radio crew and the radio crew has to adjust to a new boss, while on a mission. Seems like a problem to me. BAM! Nailed it. WTF is this "old school" or like the 80's bullshit? Oh, you mean when we had very few females and actually had real men in the military who weren't afraid to be a little tough to get the job done? I am so glad to be retired, I knew I had to retire because I am too rough around the edges to make it in todays PC services. All of you who are still in uniform and are able to deal with stuff like this have my utmost respect. |
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On large deck amphibs the XO fleets up to CO after about a year and a half. It always alternates between SWO and pilot. The good Captain earned his dismissal by his work as XO.
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Quoted: Sailors using profanity? Tell me I ain't so. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: He had a tirade for approximately 30 minutes during which time he yelled and pounded his fist on the desk. And? Inappropriate touching (to be defined) is another thing, but yelling and foul language? Really? Sailors using profanity? Tell me I ain't so. And who would have thought that the captain of the navy ship that takes combat Marines into war zones would be profane and brusk? What is the world coming to?
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Another incident involved Brown's alleged outburst after finding that a dance class and an academic skills class were scheduled aboard ship at the same time. He did not want to reschedule the dance class because he attended the class, the report says. View Quote For a guy that cusses like a sailor, he sure has some homo hobbies. |
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Quoted: Thank God there is no chance of Sally Jones being killed or dying on deployment so they don't need to adjust to a new boss. The correct answer is you train for the possibility challenges you may face. That would include a planned or unplanned pregnancy of female crew if any. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The report quotes one sailor - whose name and rank are redacted - saying that, "Capt. Brown's leadership style is caustic and intimidating and is something he would consider 'old school' or from the '80s." The Boxer is designed to take combat Marines and heavy equipment to war zones. Brown was concerned about female sailors and junior officers using birth control because the ship had lost several crew members who became pregnant and could not deploy, the report says. But the women were unnerved by the questioning and thought it was inappropriate, according to the report. Am I the only one who sees the question as being highly appropriate? Ensign Sally Jone is in charge of the radio crew. Ensign Sally works with the radio crew for 6 months. The ship gets dispatched out on a mission, but Ensign Sally is knocked up and now we have to find someone else to be in charge of the radio crew and the radio crew has to adjust to a new boss, while on a mission. Seems like a problem to me. Thank God there is no chance of Sally Jones being killed or dying on deployment so they don't need to adjust to a new boss. The correct answer is you train for the possibility challenges you may face. That would include a planned or unplanned pregnancy of female crew if any. Disruptions are always a risk, but any leader worth feeding us going to want to reduce the possibilities of disruption. That would probably fall into the category of being his whole job.
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-captain-of-san-diegobased-warship-relieved-of-duty-20141123-story.html "The captain of one of the Navy's premier warships has been relieved of command after an investigation found that he routinely used foul and abusive language toward crew members and engaged in inappropriate touching and questioning of women." "Capt. Wayne Brown was relieved as commander of the San Diego-based amphibious assault ship Boxer after an investigation concluded that he had "lost the respect, trust and confidence of his subordinates" because of his temper and his behavior toward female crew members, according to the investigative report. His behavior included touching and asking crew members whether they were using birth control with their husbands or boyfriends..." View Quote Why must they interfere with rich military traditions? |
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He had a tirade for approximately 30 minutes during which time he yelled and pounded his fist on the desk. And? Inappropriate touching (to be defined) is another thing, but yelling and foul language? Really? Sailors using profanity? Tell me I ain't so. This. Sailors sailoring. If he raped someone, change the charges and hang him. But "Touched" is a very broad term... This case makes it sound like we only want softie men in the military. I'm thinking of telling my grandfather that sailors now can't cuss or they will be relieved of duty, then film his reaction. |
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