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Posted: 11/20/2014 1:11:08 PM EDT
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I am amazed at how prevalent this belief apparently is. The average, non-overweight 180lb male adult performing light work (e.g. walking) has a respiratory volume rate of about 10-12 liters per minute. That's a little less than half of a CFM. So let's say you walk in off the street into a little coffee shop. The shop is modest, say 20' x 50' x 9' high (9000 cubic feet). There are ten other people waiting in line, plus a cashier and two baristas. Assuming they've each been lightly walking, they're all breathing at around half a CFM, making for a total of 7 CFM of exhaled air. The ventilation requirement for a commercial business that size is 10 air changes per hour (depends on state/location), or 1500CFM. Assuming completely homogenous mixing and quasi-steady state conditions, that makes the air inside the coffee shop about 0.5% previously breathed air. To put it another way, for every breath you take, half a teaspoon of that air was recently exhaled by another person. Or, to put it another way... If a fart contains 1/3 liter of gas, and the stink lingers for two minutes, one person farting inside the coffee shop equates to everyone else inhaling around 25 milligrams of shit. 
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I think its rude to expect people to want to be around expelled bodily fluid. I view it the same as people sneezing all over the place and not trying to cover their mouths. Its just another disgusting habit. I am amazed at how prevalent this belief apparently is. The average, non-overweight 180lb male adult performing light work (e.g. walking) has a respiratory volume rate of about 10-12 liters per minute. That's a little less than half of a CFM. So let's say you walk in off the street into a little coffee shop. The shop is modest, say 20' x 50' x 9' high (9000 cubic feet). There are ten other people waiting in line, plus a cashier and two baristas. Assuming they've each been lightly walking, they're all breathing at around half a CFM, making for a total of 7 CFM of exhaled air. The ventilation requirement for a commercial business that size is 10 air changes per hour (depends on state/location), or 1500CFM. Assuming completely homogenous mixing and quasi-steady state conditions, that makes the air inside the coffee shop about 0.5% previously breathed air. To put it another way, for every breath you take, half a teaspoon of that air was recently exhaled by another person. Or, to put it another way... If a fart contains 1/3 liter of gas, and the stink lingers for two minutes, one person farting inside the coffee shop equates to everyone else inhaling around 25 milligrams of shit.
Yet, because you can see 'vapor,' people get worried about that. 
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Posted: 11/20/2014 1:16:43 PM EDT
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Last I checked vape manufacturers don't have to comply with any health standards or out warnings on the product because it is for "recreational use". In reality it is just as toxic due to the artificial chemicals they put in to flavor it. Lots of morons in this thread. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 1:31:46 PM EDT
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Long term health affects of e-cigs isn't known. They are chock full of shit, as I posted in the study above, contrary to what the users in this thread have said. One even looked at all the goodies in second hand ?vapor? OK, Chicken Little. Appropriate avatar. The "two leading brands" are disposables that nobody in this thread has talked about, and they aren't leading. And nobody in this thread is talking about disposables. Also, the levels found are infinitesimal. Half of the things you list in the second study are completely harmless (especially propolylene glycol, which is what makes up most of the fluid. Wow, they found the main ingredient?) The other things are products of BURNING. They burned it. We know tons about the long term effects of propolyene glycol vapor inhalation, it was going to be pumped in the air in hospitals as a bactricide/viruscide until they discovered that the same effect could be achieved more easily by using UV lights. Long term studies on rats & monkeys (12 to 18 months) that lived continuously in a 24hour a day vapor environment with zero ill effects. Scrambling idiots dancing in this thread. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 1:37:55 PM EDT
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Well 40-50-60 years ago nobody thought tobacco smoke was bad for them ?
Who the fuck really knows what some fool has inserted into one of those ecigs / vape pens or whatever you call them. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 2:27:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So long as that designated smoking area isn't somewhere I CAN'T leave, I don't care. I have feet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I smoked now I vape I don't blow it in people faces What I can't stand is people, smokers or non smokers, sitting or stand in a designated smoke area and bitch about the smell.... Normally I don't give a shit unless it's a non smoker in a smoking area because they gotta talk to there buddy then I'll say your in the wrong area then So long as that designated smoking area isn't somewhere I CAN'T leave, I don't care. I have feet.  |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 2:41:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think its rude to expect people to want to be around expelled bodily fluid. I view it the same as people sneezing all over the place and not trying to cover their mouths. Its just another disgusting habit. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 2:51:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I smoked I made a point to take it outside you fucks should do the same When I was in the US Army, I smoked in the barracks..... I smoked in the lounge, when I was in Walter Reed.. I had Doctors who smoked at their Desk..... Oh course this was before all the Namby Panbies took over the Country....  |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 2:58:16 PM EDT
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So, is it OK to use a vaporizer with MJ in public around other people?
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Posted: 11/20/2014 2:59:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well 40-50-60 years ago nobody thought tobacco smoke was bad for them ? Who the fuck really knows what some fool has inserted into one of those ecigs / vape pens or whatever you call them.  |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:00:03 PM EDT
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I think vaping should be restricted just like smoking.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:01:51 PM EDT
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Why do you hate freedom? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why should non addicts be forced to breathe your carcinogen laden shit? Why do you hate freedom? That is a phony argument. If it was about freedom, you wouldn't force it on others. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:04:13 PM EDT
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Vapers. Heh.
Finally saw one the other weekend, waiting in the SlideFire line at the TTAG gun fest. Had his jacket tied around his waist by the sleeves, wore a tan boonie hat, was about 60 lbs overweight, and was vaping like a mofo. My first thought was, "Arfcommer". He strutted his stuff to the firing line, and totally flubbed. The look on his face was priceless. Vaping basement dweller. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:09:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But it's still okay to point and laugh, right? of course :)
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:09:42 PM EDT
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this shit is still going on
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:13:02 PM EDT
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I'm not about to read 10 pages of posts, but I'll just say that having to breathe your shit is an insult.
Oh, it's just water vapor, you say? Then why would you want to inhale it yourself? Um-hm, it's also got nicotine in it! Ah-HA! So now it's really no different from cigarette smoke in that regard, and I don't want your fucking nicotine in my lungs. If you're stupid enough to suck shit like that into your lungs, let the force be with you .... but keep it the fuck away from me. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:14:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why should non addicts be forced to breathe your carcinogen laden shit? Why do you hate freedom? You don't understand freedom. Your freedom ends where others rights begin. not when it comes to breathing it doesn't You can be a dirty disgusting pig and if I don't like the way you smell I can either put up with it or go elsewhere. You can eat disgusting smelling food that make me want to puke, and I can either put up with it or leave. Vaping isn't harmful so you have no complaint. ) but I'm not going to shit all over you while you're trying to eat dinner.but hey, courtesy is for the weak right? it would be discourteous, but that is a different issue it still not dangerous, which was the original question |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:18:40 PM EDT
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It smells bad. It lingers. Walking through a cloud of lung-droplets is disgusting. The vapor can carry disease.
No, it doesn't sound stupid at all.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:19:52 PM EDT
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So now it's really no different from cigarette smoke in that regard, and I don't want your fucking nicotine in my lungs. If you're stupid enough to suck shit like that into your lungs, let the force be with you .... but keep it the fuck away from me. miles apart, contains zero traces of carcinogen chemicals found in cigarettes and 10 times less nicotine than a real cigarette http://healthland.time.com/2013/12/13/smoke-from-e-cigs-still-poses-some-second-hand-risk/ |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:24:33 PM EDT
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It smells bad. It lingers. Walking through a cloud of lung-droplets is disgusting. The vapor can carry disease. No, it doesn't sound stupid at all. How many know-nothing, ignorant bloviators will this thread out? The vapor KILLS BACTERIA & VIRUSES. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2135415/ |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:25:14 PM EDT
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I'm not about to read 10 pages of posts, but I'll just say that having to breathe your shit is an insult. Oh, it's just water vapor, you say? Then why would you want to inhale it yourself? Um-hm, it's also got nicotine in it! Ah-HA! So now it's really no different from cigarette smoke in that regard, and I don't want your fucking nicotine in my lungs. If you're stupid enough to suck shit like that into your lungs, let the force be with you .... but keep it the fuck away from me. No knowledge of Nicotine at all, yet such a strong opinion. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:26:03 PM EDT
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Business owners have the right to dictate weather they allow someone to "vape" on their premises or not. It's their property, their right, just as a club owner has the right to put a fog machine in their establishment if they wish or to allow "vaping". Your right as a consumer is to either frequent said establishment or go somewhere else. If a restaurant doesn't want you smoking, vaping, doing heroin, meth, or slicing pieces of your testicles off in the corner booth while blasting techno music from a boom box, it's their right to tell you to leave. It's the same reason I believe the anti-smoking laws are complete BS. If a business owner wants their business to be "Joe's house of cigarette smoking", "Bob's Vape-shack", or "Timothy's land of testicle slicing", it should be their right do have a business catering to those demographics. The entitlement mentality by many vapists is pretty similar to the entitlement mentality of smokers who insist on smoking near others in public or anti-smokers pushing their beliefs on business owners. Quite frankly I don't care if it smells like tangerine and candied goat anuses, doesn't smell at all, contains nicotine, doesn't contain nicotine, is good, bad, healthy, unhealthy, i don't care. If you goto a restaurant and they don't want you doing something you have the right to leave and they have the right to dictate allowable behavior in their establishment.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:27:25 PM EDT
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The vapor can carry disease. >Anti-microbial vapor. >Can carry disease. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:33:56 PM EDT
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Take that shit outside... away from me.
I don't want to be exposed to second hand smoke OR vape... Who knows WTF is in that shit... besides antifreeze. You want to do it in your own personal space, have at it. But don't subject those around you to your habit, against their will. ETA: For those saying it's harmless... show me where and how all vaping juices have been tested for harmful effects, and what regulations, if any they abide by. I don't think a blanket statement of "its just CO2... harmless" really covers your ass. I personally think it should be treated the same as smoking. It's not necessarily just about harmful effects. It's the same as invading someones space with your horribly bad breath, or your overly flowery perfume: it's rude. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:36:45 PM EDT
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I no longer smoke. I vape. I'm considerate about when and where I do it. I'm considerate to the point that if my vaping somehow annoys you then you've done something to intrude into my space or are just looking for something to be offended about. Get over it.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:39:14 PM EDT
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I think it's funny that a bunch of neckbeards who are slowly killing themselves would pose the rhetorical possibility that a non-vaper is possibly "too stupid to live".
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:39:15 PM EDT
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I no longer smoke. I vape. I'm considerate about when and where I do it. I'm considerate to the point that if my vaping somehow annoys you then you've done something to intrude into my space or are just looking for something to be offended about. Get over it. exactly |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:40:25 PM EDT
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I'd like to restate my previous post and say that this thread is light-years worse than a DU gun thread.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:47:02 PM EDT
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No knowledge of Nicotine at all, yet such a strong opinion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not about to read 10 pages of posts, but I'll just say that having to breathe your shit is an insult. Oh, it's just water vapor, you say? Then why would you want to inhale it yourself? Um-hm, it's also got nicotine in it! Ah-HA! So now it's really no different from cigarette smoke in that regard, and I don't want your fucking nicotine in my lungs. If you're stupid enough to suck shit like that into your lungs, let the force be with you .... but keep it the fuck away from me. No knowledge of Nicotine at all, yet such a strong opinion. won't read ten pages. feels free to drop his uninformed opinion in this thread. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:48:43 PM EDT
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E-cigs are brilliant, a great choice for people to quit smoking.
However.... In the spring I took a road trip to NY with my father for my grandmother's funeral. 17 hours door to door. I've dipped for 24 years (Skoal LCW.) My dad smoked for 40 years. He switched to e-cigs about 6 months ago. I noticed during the trip that I kept getting nasty headaches and nausea. Took me a while to figure out it was happening when I had a dip in and he was puffing on his e-cig. I was getting too much nicotine, which was making me sick. Cracked a window when he was using his e-cig and had no more problems. Just something to be aware of. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:51:14 PM EDT
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And its true that it makes you smell like shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That and people who love hating on smokers don't want to lose their sense of moral superiority. They gotta have someone to look down their noses at. Otherwise they'd realize how pathetic their own lives are. The goto defense, page 1 of the smokers handbook. Neva been done before. And it's true. Wow!  And its true that it makes you smell like shit. So does not taking a bath, but nobody's afraid of people who don't bathe. They just look down on em. Go ahead and look down on people using ECigs. No skin off my back, especially since I haven't used em in a long time. 
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:57:23 PM EDT
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I have a question for you guys that are constantly having people "blow vapor in your face" or "blow vapor all over your food while you are eating" "blow big clouds of vapor at you as you walk by". What is the reason people feel that they can do these things to you? Are you little or funny looking? Do you look beta? I have never in my life had someone blow anything in my face, or blow anything all over my food or blow anything in my general direction as I walked by...granted I am a big guy and look pretty intimidating, but I have never even seen anyone do that sort of stuff to smaller weaker looking people. Maybe you need to stop letting people treat you like bitches, maybe you need to stand up for yourselves and not just get all passive aggressive towards vapers. For many of these Drama Queens, "blow smoke/vaport in my face" really means "someone exhaled and I could see the smoke when I walked by several feet away". |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 4:00:45 PM EDT
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Both VAP and cigarette smoke trigger my asthma. Not afraid of cancer. Just afraid of not breathing That's really amazing, considering one of the things in ecig juice is also in asthma inhalers... |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 4:01:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It smells bad. It lingers. Walking through a cloud of lung-droplets is disgusting. The vapor can carry disease. No, it doesn't sound stupid at all. You must not been outside on a real cold day......  |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 4:02:08 PM EDT
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I have a question for you guys that are constantly having people "blow vapor in your face" or "blow vapor all over your food while you are eating" "blow big clouds of vapor at you as you walk by". What is the reason people feel that they can do these things to you? Are you little or funny looking? Do you look beta? I have never in my life had someone blow anything in my face, or blow anything all over my food or blow anything in my general direction as I walked by...granted I am a big guy and look pretty intimidating, but I have never even seen anyone do that sort of stuff to smaller weaker looking people. Maybe you need to stop letting people treat you like bitches, maybe you need to stand up for yourselves and not just get all passive aggressive towards vapers. 
Oh...Florida. Bless your heart. You should stop being so beta and use a real insult, instead of that weak sauce "bless your heart" bullshit. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 4:03:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you think everything that is not expressly permitted is thereby prohibited? That's seriously messed up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why should non addicts gunowners be forced to breathe be around your carcinogen laden shit baby-killing assault rifles? FTFY, hypocrite. Freedom; you either support it or you don't. looked all over this thing and didn't see any mention about your right to own pitbulls, vape, grow mullets, or drive pontiacs did see one about being a gun owner peppering my angus now So you think everything that is not expressly permitted is thereby prohibited? That's seriously messed up. The rest was just me being a smart ass |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 4:04:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Take that shit outside... away from me. I don't want to be exposed to second hand smoke OR vape... Who knows WTF is in that shit... besides antifreeze. You want to do it in your own personal space, have at it. But don't subject those around you to your habit, against their will. ETA: For those saying it's harmless... show me where and how all vaping juices have been tested for harmful effects, and what regulations, if any they abide by. I don't think a blanket statement of "its just CO2... harmless" really covers your ass. I personally think it should be treated the same as smoking. It's not necessarily just about harmful effects. It's the same as invading someones space with your horribly bad breath, or your overly flowery perfume: it's rude. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 4:54:59 PM EDT
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For many of these Drama Queens, "blow smoke/vaport in my face" really means "someone exhaled and I could see the smoke when I walked by several feet away". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a question for you guys that are constantly having people "blow vapor in your face" or "blow vapor all over your food while you are eating" "blow big clouds of vapor at you as you walk by". What is the reason people feel that they can do these things to you? Are you little or funny looking? Do you look beta? I have never in my life had someone blow anything in my face, or blow anything all over my food or blow anything in my general direction as I walked by...granted I am a big guy and look pretty intimidating, but I have never even seen anyone do that sort of stuff to smaller weaker looking people. Maybe you need to stop letting people treat you like bitches, maybe you need to stand up for yourselves and not just get all passive aggressive towards vapers. For many of these Drama Queens, "blow smoke/vaport in my face" really means "someone exhaled and I could see the smoke when I walked by several feet away". The funny thing is your probably right. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 5:06:12 PM EDT
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Take that shit outside... away from me. I don't want to be exposed to second hand smoke OR vape... Who knows WTF is in that shit... besides antifreeze. You want to do it in your own personal space, have at it. But don't subject those around you to your habit, against their will. ETA: For those saying it's harmless... show me where and how all vaping juices have been tested for harmful effects, and what regulations, if any they abide by. I don't think a blanket statement of "its just CO2... harmless" really covers your ass. I personally think it should be treated the same as smoking. It's not necessarily just about harmful effects. It's the same as invading someones space with your horribly bad breath, or your overly flowery perfume: it's rude. CO2 is carbon dioxide. Antifreeze is ethylene glycol. Science is hard. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 5:13:56 PM EDT
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I don't smoke or vape, so I don't know what the costs associated with either are. Tobacco use is also completely unnecessary and causes costs to the public, so I don't automatically have a problem with practice being discouraged and people who choose to engage in it bearing some of the costs. I also patronize stores that have policies prohibiting the carry of firearms on their properties. Costco, for example. I don't own guns or shoot, so I don't know the cost associated with either are. Firearm ownership is completely unnecessary and causes cost the the public, so I don't automatically have a problem with the practice being discouraged and people who choose to engage in it bearing some of the costs.
I carry my gun in places that tell me not to as well but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about them being able to call the cops and have you get fined or arrested for carrying your gun in their store. So you can't carry a gun hardly anywhere with out the possibility of a large fine your trianing ammo costs $ 1200 for 1000 rounds, and your carry piece is $ 2500, those being conservative figures. Would you like that much government intervention on firearms if all the taxes went to "keeping crime off the street"? |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 5:14:07 PM EDT
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Way to go OP - take your vape outside along with the smokers. Discouraged in my place of business.
Not on the same level as smoking, but anyone/anything that puts off an offensive odor is not welcome. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 5:20:55 PM EDT
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I see nothing different. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 5:22:31 PM EDT
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My wife switched from cigs to vape and holy fuck thank you very much it finally doesn't smell like anything anymore.
All you people claiming to smell vapor are delusional, it doesn't smell like anything. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 5:23:19 PM EDT
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I don't vape where I wouldn't smoke. Well, other than my home and vehicle anyway. I do my best not to give anyone a face full.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 5:24:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Way to go OP - take your vape outside along with the smokers. Discouraged in my place of business. Not on the same level as smoking, but anyone/anything that puts off an offensive odor is not welcome. Never had a Grocery, Department, or other Store tell me to leave & take my money with me...... I've been Dirty, Greasy, & Sweaty, yet they still wanted my money........ Some of Y'all probably have soft Lotiony Hands that can't grip a Tackle Box..... Do you get Botox treatments for your wrinkles, too........ |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 5:29:02 PM EDT
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Way to go OP - take your vape outside along with the smokers. Discouraged in my place of business. Not on the same level as smoking, but anyone/anything that puts off an offensive odor is not welcome. unless it has cash |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 5:37:46 PM EDT
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I've stopped on the way home from work to pick up some needed items.............. Never had a Grocery, Department, or other Store tell me to leave & take my money with me...... I've been Dirty, Greasy, & Sweaty, yet they still wanted my money........ Some of Y'all probably have soft Lotiony Hands that can't grip a Tackle Box..... Do you get Botox treatments for your wrinkles, too........
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Way to go OP - take your vape outside along with the smokers. Discouraged in my place of business. Not on the same level as smoking, but anyone/anything that puts off an offensive odor is not welcome. Never had a Grocery, Department, or other Store tell me to leave & take my money with me...... I've been Dirty, Greasy, & Sweaty, yet they still wanted my money........ Some of Y'all probably have soft Lotiony Hands that can't grip a Tackle Box..... Do you get Botox treatments for your wrinkles, too........
Oh, vaping makes you a hard mofo now, does it? 
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Posted: 11/20/2014 5:38:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryFFS and all that fog comes down on your hair and clothes and shit? and if you're eating in a restaurant, on your food? FTS |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 5:41:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FFS and all that fog comes down on your hair and clothes and shit? and if you're eating in a restaurant, on your food? FTS Quote HistoryQuoted: FFS and all that fog comes down on your hair and clothes and shit? and if you're eating in a restaurant, on your food? FTS |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 5:45:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, vaping makes you a hard mofo now, does it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Way to go OP - take your vape outside along with the smokers. Discouraged in my place of business. Not on the same level as smoking, but anyone/anything that puts off an offensive odor is not welcome. Never had a Grocery, Department, or other Store tell me to leave & take my money with me...... I've been Dirty, Greasy, & Sweaty, yet they still wanted my money........ Some of Y'all probably have soft Lotiony Hands that can't grip a Tackle Box..... Do you get Botox treatments for your wrinkles, too........ Oh, vaping makes you a hard mofo now, does it? They still wanted my Money...... |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 5:50:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've walked into Restaurants for Lunch smelling pretty Rank from Work..... They still wanted my Money...... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Way to go OP - take your vape outside along with the smokers. Discouraged in my place of business. Not on the same level as smoking, but anyone/anything that puts off an offensive odor is not welcome. Never had a Grocery, Department, or other Store tell me to leave & take my money with me...... I've been Dirty, Greasy, & Sweaty, yet they still wanted my money........ Some of Y'all probably have soft Lotiony Hands that can't grip a Tackle Box..... Do you get Botox treatments for your wrinkles, too........ Oh, vaping makes you a hard mofo now, does it? They still wanted my Money......  |
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